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Title: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: MOON KNIGHT on February 20, 2011, 03:43:53 AM

2 Songs, Same Title, Same Beat, Same Record Label.
Yomo & Maulkie's version released in '91.
Bone Thugs version released 3 years later in '94.
Both produced by Yella.
Anyone know the story of why Ruthless/Eazy/Yella would re-use the beat if they had already used it on a previous album ?
Seems a little odd  ???

Yomo & Maulkie ft. Jewell - For The Love Of Money
http://hulkshare.com/3up8bn2dmhug (http://hulkshare.com/3up8bn2dmhug)

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony ft. Eazy-E - Foe Tha Love Of Money
http://hulkshare.com/lii1qnvzxvwm (http://hulkshare.com/lii1qnvzxvwm)



Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bigpimpin20 on February 20, 2011, 04:02:16 AM
i dont know maybe cuz beat was so good. i think Yella was the best producer on Ruthless, better than Dr.Dre, just compare Eazys SOTSOMC & One Mo Nigga Ta Go to Dres production from that time, in my eyes Yella wins 8)
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bouli77 on February 20, 2011, 04:49:58 AM
Yeah I think Yella was def. more creative and musical at the time, but was on another level sonically. For The Love of $ is one of my all time favorites, the instrumental is just too beautiful. I don't know the story behind this beat being re-used but I've always thought it was kinda like 2pac re-using Johnny J's Better Off for Picture Me Rollin: Bone must have loved the beat so much that they wanted to spit on it.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on February 20, 2011, 12:28:30 PM
i dont know maybe cuz beat was so good. i think Yella was the best producer on Ruthless, better than Dr.Dre, just compare Eazys SOTSOMC & One Mo Nigga Ta Go to Dres production from that time, in my eyes Yella wins 8)

Better than The Chronic and Doggystyle? Lol no.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bigpimpin20 on February 20, 2011, 12:42:49 PM
i dont know maybe cuz beat was so good. i think Yella was the best producer on Ruthless, better than Dr.Dre, just compare Eazys SOTSOMC & One Mo Nigga Ta Go to Dres production from that time, in my eyes Yella wins 8)

Better than The Chronic and Doggystyle? Lol no.
95-96
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on February 20, 2011, 12:54:12 PM
i dont know maybe cuz beat was so good. i think Yella was the best producer on Ruthless, better than Dr.Dre, just compare Eazys SOTSOMC & One Mo Nigga Ta Go to Dres production from that time, in my eyes Yella wins 8)

Better than The Chronic and Doggystyle? Lol no.
95-96

I don't think Dre even put anything out in 95. Most of Yella's work was during that time period. How are you going to base who the better producer on a period of time when Dre didn't do shit? Dre's work at Ruthless shits on Yella's work at Ruthless, hence Dre is the better producer.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bigpimpin20 on February 20, 2011, 01:05:24 PM
i dont know maybe cuz beat was so good. i think Yella was the best producer on Ruthless, better than Dr.Dre, just compare Eazys SOTSOMC & One Mo Nigga Ta Go to Dres production from that time, in my eyes Yella wins 8)

Better than The Chronic and Doggystyle? Lol no.
95-96


I don't think Dre even put anything out in 95. Most of Yella's work was during that time period. How are you going to base who the better producer on a period of time when Dre didn't do shit? Dre's work at Ruthless shits on Yella's work at Ruthless, hence Dre is the better producer.
Dre released compilation on Aftermath in 96 and in 95 contributed on Dogg Food. Dogg Pound  album was good but SOTSOMC (which was mostly recorded in 95) beat wise shits on it.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: awol22222 on February 20, 2011, 01:11:17 PM
i dont know maybe cuz beat was so good. i think Yella was the best producer on Ruthless, better than Dr.Dre, just compare Eazys SOTSOMC & One Mo Nigga Ta Go to Dres production from that time, in my eyes Yella wins 8)

Better than The Chronic and Doggystyle? Lol no.
95-96


I don't think Dre even put anything out in 95. Most of Yella's work was during that time period. How are you going to base who the better producer on a period of time when Dre didn't do shit? Dre's work at Ruthless shits on Yella's work at Ruthless, hence Dre is the better producer.
Dre released compilation on Aftermath in 96 and in 95 contributed on Dogg Food. Dogg Pound  album was good but SOTSOMC (which was mostly recorded in 95) beat wise shits on it.
All Eyez on Me? And Str8 off tha Streetz of CPT just has songs from 1993-1994.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 20, 2011, 01:27:49 PM
``cant c me`` and ``california love`` were made in 93 and in 95/maybe 94 (``the root of evil`` was pretty much Cali Love but a little different).  Plus ``cant c me`` was originally 4 the ``helter skelter`` album in 94.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 20, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
``cant c me`` is tha song 2pac was talking about when he said Dre hasnt produced shit in 3 years, he meant that literally lol.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on February 20, 2011, 01:38:04 PM
95 contributed on Dogg Food.

No he didn't

Dogg Pound  album was good but SOTSOMC (which was mostly recorded in 95) beat wise shits on it.

No it doesn't. Daz in 95 >> Yella. Str8 Off the Streetz is all over the place beat-wise. Not to mention that Yella only produced half of it.

Dre released compilation on Aftermath in 96

Aftermath album >>> One Mo Nigga ta Go. So what does this say? Even Dre's worst work >>> Yella's best. Cmon man....Yella showed he had talent after Dre left but saying he's better than Dre is ludicrous.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bigpimpin20 on February 20, 2011, 01:45:44 PM
95 contributed on Dogg Food.

No he didn't

Dogg Pound  album was good but SOTSOMC (which was mostly recorded in 95) beat wise shits on it.

No it doesn't. Daz in 95 >> Yella. Str8 Off the Streetz is all over the place beat-wise. Not to mention that Yella only produced half of it.

Dre released compilation on Aftermath in 96

Aftermath album >>> One Mo Nigga ta Go. So what does this say? Even Dre's worst work >>> Yella's best. Cmon man....Yella showed he had talent after Dre left but saying he's better than Dre is ludicrous.
Damn thats your opinion, mine is different what more can i say :)
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on February 20, 2011, 02:02:04 PM
But even you don't really believe it. I mean you're comparing Yella's best work to the period when Dre was producing the least. If you truly believed he was better you would be comparing their best production. I didn't see you comparing Yella's work to Efil4zaggin, Doggystyle or The Chronic.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bigpimpin20 on February 20, 2011, 02:48:14 PM
But even you don't really believe it. I mean you're comparing Yella's best work to the period when Dre was producing the least. If you truly believed he was better you would be comparing their best production. I didn't see you comparing Yella's work to Efil4zaggin, Doggystyle or The Chronic.
how can i compare Yellas work to Efil4Zaggin?
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bigpimpin20 on February 20, 2011, 03:06:54 PM
And If its hard to understand i like Yellas best work better than Dres best work
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Black Excellence on February 20, 2011, 03:35:18 PM
95 contributed on Dogg Food.

No he didn't

Dogg Pound  album was good but SOTSOMC (which was mostly recorded in 95) beat wise shits on it.

No it doesn't. Daz in 95 >> Yella. Str8 Off the Streetz is all over the place beat-wise. Not to mention that Yella only produced half of it.

Dre released compilation on Aftermath in 96

Aftermath album >>> One Mo Nigga ta Go. So what does this say? Even Dre's worst work >>> Yella's best. Cmon man....Yella showed he had talent after Dre left but saying he's better than Dre is ludicrous.
production on str8 off tha streetz is varied and gangsta at the same time. daz in 95 was the shit but yella by that time was a legend (n.w.a.). and by the way one mo nigga ta go is a west coast classic. that aftermath comp had a few weak artists on it but it had some hot shit on it.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 20, 2011, 07:29:27 PM
Just 4 tha record, ``cant c me``, ``whats my name``, and ``dre day`` all share tha same bassline, i think ``doggystyle`` is very similar too.  And ``the root of evil`` and ``california love`` have tha same bassline too, tha only difference is added sounds.  And that Aftermath compilation was all recorded in 96 but mainly by other beatmakers, but Im not taking sides becuz they were all in their primes then and im a fan of all of that shit.  Its just out of technicality Yella wins becuz everybody else was doing tha ``beat making`` at Death Row during that time while Yella was doing it all.  Just like to tha OG Version of ``natural born killaz`` to see what im saying and then compare that with tha released version.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on February 20, 2011, 09:32:54 PM
And If its hard to understand i like Yellas best work better than Dres best work

Yet you refused to compare One Mo Nigga to Go to The Chronic.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bigpimpin20 on February 21, 2011, 05:51:32 AM
And If its hard to understand i like Yellas best work better than Dres best work

Yet you refused to compare One Mo Nigga to Go to The Chronic.
hahaha if you dont get it- that means to me OMNTG is better than Chronic
and Its On Dr.Dre 187um Killa EP (which had 2 Yella produced tracks) eats Chronic & Doggystyle alive.
I know that those Death Row releases had better commercial impact than anythin that came out from Yella or Ruthless after Dre left but i just dont feel it.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bouli77 on February 21, 2011, 09:29:17 AM
This is pointless to oppose Dre's work on RUthless to Yella's since they were working together. It's like opposing Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. It makes no sense. One thing is for sure though, Yella is a legend. He has not impacted the industry like Dre did but music-wise, he is as creative and as talented as Dre when it comes to creating tracks. And come on, One More Nigga To Go is better than Aftermath without a doubt. On the one hand, you have a westcoast classic, on the other hand you have a musical experiment which flopped

Yella only produced a few tracks on It's On Dr Dre 187 Um Killa, SOTSOMC and Creepin On A Come Up but Dre, as someone mentioned it, didn't produce much after Doggystyle either. Yella's tracks were all amazing productions with live instruments and dope compositions.

So instead of opposing them, I'll just say that they were both 2 great producers and that people were blessed to witness a musical era were mainstream rap was equated with quality music.

I don't agree when bigpimpin20 says that Death Row releases had better commercial impact than Ruthless ones... It's On Dr Dre 187 um Killa sold as much as Doggystyle (4 million), and Bone Thugs' first three projects sold overall 10 million. If it weren't for 2pac, Ruthless would have to this day sold more records than Death Row.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 21, 2011, 09:52:06 AM
Straight Off Tha Streetz Of Muthaphukkin' Compton wasn't even hardly finished.  It was supposed to be a double/triple album before Eazy passed.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on February 21, 2011, 10:24:36 AM
And come on, One More Nigga To Go is better than Aftermath without a doubt. On the one hand, you have a westcoast classic, on the other hand you have a musical experiment which flopped

Not at all. And lol @ calling it a west coast classic.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on February 21, 2011, 10:26:07 AM
And If its hard to understand i like Yellas best work better than Dres best work

Yet you refused to compare One Mo Nigga to Go to The Chronic.
hahaha if you dont get it- that means to me OMNTG is better than Chronic
and Its On Dr.Dre 187um Killa EP (which had 2 Yella produced tracks) eats Chronic & Doggystyle alive.
I know that those Death Row releases had better commercial impact than anythin that came out from Yella or Ruthless after Dre left but i just dont feel it.

If you really feel that way then you should have said that from the beginning. You've been dodging the comparison like a mothafucka and bringing up Dre's worst work instead. That said, lol I'd have to disagree.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: unclsean on February 21, 2011, 10:37:06 AM
I didnt know about Yomo and Maulkie's version....but i love the bone thuggs version the EXTENDED VERSION!
it's so so so cold.....
http://www.reallionnaire.blogspot.com

Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: arubiano83 on February 21, 2011, 02:54:49 PM
krayzies version (granddaddy mix) is also dope!!
https://www.youtube.com/v/0Ts6fxZo6zo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ts6fxZo6zo)
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: 3331 on February 25, 2011, 01:38:24 PM
Foe the love of money can hold its own against any of dre's best beats. I know oh my god its blashemy to act like dre isnt always the best in every way how could anyone not think dre only puts out solid gold constantly that no other producer could even hope to compare to???

Moe cheese or whatever its called is sick as fuck too. So ahead of its time that beat. Most stuff from 91 sounds dated compared to stuff from like 93 on but not it.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: bouli77 on February 25, 2011, 02:05:19 PM
that's exactly how i'm feeling. moe cheese and 4 the love of money is just something else. musically perfect. It's up there with Let Me Ride's extended version with the guitar solo.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: Onblast on February 25, 2011, 03:58:53 PM
The original version by those dudes is trash...Bone probably heard it back in Cleveland, wrote a better one and when they went to LA they spit over the instrumental the song they wrote to it.
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: NoobCake on February 25, 2011, 05:25:27 PM
Yella is a better porn producer than he was a music producer.  Most of his beats were trash. 
Title: Re: For The Love Of Money (Original Version) Question ???
Post by: sms130 on February 26, 2011, 11:49:06 AM
I don't know why they re-use and re-did. I like both of them but, Bone killed it with theirs with Eazy. I think one thing could have play a part of it was tha fact that Jewell was rollin' with Dr. Dre and was on Death Row. The could have removed her vocals and put some else on there but, they didn't. I didn't pay attention that Jewell on the song. Jewell comes with it! I love her work with Death Row and Ruthless. She was under Dr. Dre, so u can't go wrong with that.