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Title: Dr. Dre isnt good enough to release a single without anyone featured.
Post by: JASONAVELI on March 21, 2011, 09:26:25 AM
It would flop. He needs big named features.
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Post by: EnzoUK on March 21, 2011, 09:29:21 AM
cool
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Post by: Don Seer on March 21, 2011, 09:31:15 AM

replace the word GOOD with CONFIDENT...

from reports he's never been satisfied with his own vocals, so doubts they'd stand up on their own.

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Post by: JASONAVELI on March 21, 2011, 09:36:19 AM
R U fo real?

How can he not have confidence?

Detox is a shithole. No dre beats and no solo aongs?
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Post by: Don Seer on March 21, 2011, 09:44:53 AM
R U fo real?

How can he not have confidence?

Detox is a shithole. No dre beats and no solo aongs?

yup i'm for real. there are numerous artists out there who are cirppled by having to live up to their previous achievements.

dre was always a perfectionist, but with the weight of his past and the detox hype he must be going nuts..
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Post by: hellhustla on March 21, 2011, 10:02:18 AM


yup i'm for real. there are numerous artists out there who are cirppled by having to live up to their previous achievements.

dre was always a perfectionist, but with the weight of his past and the detox hype he must be going nuts..


THAT
+ look at all so called detox features till now ... everybody who worked with dre in the past and also have worked with artist from aftermath are now featured in detox.
i mean favor fo favor , dre is returning them their favors like. my 1 cent... ohh and dre is producer first then whateva else

Edit : JAsonveli ... you say no dre beats on the album , how we know , who knows and also im pretty sure the doc can put beats on that can kill the whole rap game instantly...but he dont.
P.S.  i dun know if i express myself correctly , forgive me im euro , not english speaking.
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Post by: Jimmy H. on March 21, 2011, 11:42:16 AM
Dre's bread and butter has never been performing as a solo artist. He's only known to do it out of commercial neccesity. He wasn't on any of the big Cube-era N.W.A. songs outside of "Express Yourself". When Cube bounced, he took a more active role on the mic to fill that void. He did the solo thing at Death Row because at that time, he was the only act over there with a marketable name. Similar thing happened when he jump started Aftermath with "Been There, Done That".
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Post by: 187_gangsta_crip on March 21, 2011, 01:17:18 PM
Dre's bread and butter has never been performing as a solo artist. He's only known to do it out of commercial neccesity. He wasn't on any of the big Cube-era N.W.A. songs outside of "Express Yourself". When Cube bounced, he took a more active role on the mic to fill that void. He did the solo thing at Death Row because at that time, he was the only act over there with a marketable name. Similar thing happened when he jump started Aftermath with "Been There, Done That".

True that..
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on March 21, 2011, 03:42:28 PM


Detox is a shithole. No dre beats and no solo aongs
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Post by: HighEyeCue on March 21, 2011, 05:52:16 PM
I bet there will be a few tracks with just Dre rapping on Detox, his lost confidence and voice change not withstanding
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Post by: acgrundy on March 21, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
I always been a huge fan of dre as a rapper.  Now after the few things I have actually listened to concerning detox I really don't care about it, but I always would have liked to hear more dre rapping on his own.
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 21, 2011, 06:43:24 PM
Dre's bread and butter has never been performing as a solo artist. He's only known to do it out of commercial neccesity. He wasn't on any of the big Cube-era N.W.A. songs outside of "Express Yourself". When Cube bounced, he took a more active role on the mic to fill that void. He did the solo thing at Death Row because at that time, he was the only act over there with a marketable name. Similar thing happened when he jump started Aftermath with "Been There, Done That".

And Em and the haters convinced him to do 2001. The nigga doesn't give a fuck about rapping or releasing singles.
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Post by: dameons on March 21, 2011, 06:48:42 PM
Actually , Dre started the whole featuring thing when he dropped the Chronic . You never saw guest appearances before that , but since then , it has been the cool thing to do.
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 21, 2011, 06:52:26 PM
Actually , Dre started the whole featuring thing when he dropped the Chronic . You never saw guest appearances before that , but since then , it has been the cool thing to do.

lmao @ features starting in 92. idiot statement.
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Post by: dameons on March 21, 2011, 07:06:52 PM
How is that an idiot statement ? Look at all the westcoast releases after the Chronic dropped ...Compilations were given birth to after that as well because it was all about collabos after that point .It was uncommon on the west to have guest features before that , stupid ass .I remember Cube and Too Short did a collabo on " Short Dog's in House ' , and Cube did some stuff with Public Enemy , but Cube was an east coast wannabe at that point .After the Chronic dropped , guest features were the new trend , and are still the standard. Look at all of Too Short's albums , besided Cube , there was hardly any guest features before the Chronic .RBL Posse's first album had only one guest .
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 21, 2011, 07:10:55 PM
How is that an idiot statement ? Look at all the westcoast releases after the Chronic dropped ...Compilations were given birth to after that as well because it was all about collabos after that point .It was uncommon on the west to have guest features before that , stupid ass .I remember Cube and Too Short did a collabo on " Short Dog's in House ' , and Cube did some stuff with Public Enemy , but Cube was an east coast wannabe at that point .After the Chronic dropped , guest features were the new trend , and are still the standard. Look at all of Too Short's albums , besided Cube , there was hardly any guest features before the Chronic .RBL Posse's first album had only one guest .
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There were a million guest features before the Chronic.
Title: Re: Dr. Dre isnt good enough to release a single without anyone featured.
Post by: Smackdog on March 21, 2011, 08:32:29 PM
i disagree .........an album with only dre would be pretty good
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Post by: Don Seer on March 22, 2011, 12:01:06 AM
How is that an idiot statement ? Look at all the westcoast releases after the Chronic dropped ...Compilations were given birth to after that as well because it was all about collabos after that point .It was uncommon on the west to have guest features before that , stupid ass .I remember Cube and Too Short did a collabo on " Short Dog's in House ' , and Cube did some stuff with Public Enemy , but Cube was an east coast wannabe at that point .After the Chronic dropped , guest features were the new trend , and are still the standard. Look at all of Too Short's albums , besided Cube , there was hardly any guest features before the Chronic .RBL Posse's first album had only one guest .

thing is though.. how many other PRODUCERS did it?

thats part of why there are more features..
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 22, 2011, 12:08:23 AM
Marley Marl was putting out albums long before Dr. Dre. The Symphony was a classic posse cut with 4 featured rappers.
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Post by: MistaNova on March 22, 2011, 12:13:26 AM
There are numerous artists out there who are cirppled by having to live up to their previous achievements.

dre was always a perfectionist, but with the weight of his past and the detox hype he must be going nuts.

This. Dre's pumped up almost-mutant body is probably a result of him trying to put his focus on something else (in his case working out) until he finds what he's looking for that he's cool with and the whole world'll agree on.
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Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on March 22, 2011, 12:19:07 AM
There are numerous artists out there who are cirppled by having to live up to their previous achievements.

dre was always a perfectionist, but with the weight of his past and the detox hype he must be going nuts.

This. Dre's pumped up almost-mutant body is probably a result of him trying to put his focus on something else (in his case working out) until he finds what he's looking for that he's cool with and the whole world'll agree on.

It just doesn't seem like he's even trying tho...a legendary producer trying to find the right sound is one thing. But at least let us hear this sound or give us some indication you're experimenting around with shit. An Alex da kid beat? LMAO.
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Post by: Jimmy H. on March 22, 2011, 01:02:07 AM
How is that an idiot statement ? Look at all the westcoast releases after the Chronic dropped ...Compilations were given birth to after that as well because it was all about collabos after that point .It was uncommon on the west to have guest features before that , stupid ass .I remember Cube and Too Short did a collabo on " Short Dog's in House ' , and Cube did some stuff with Public Enemy , but Cube was an east coast wannabe at that point .After the Chronic dropped , guest features were the new trend , and are still the standard. Look at all of Too Short's albums , besided Cube , there was hardly any guest features before the Chronic .RBL Posse's first album had only one guest .
If you'd maybe phrased it differently, you might not have gotten as much flack but even if you look at Ruthless during Dre's stint there, they were all fucking with each other. Death Row was just a continuation of that concept of using artistic comradrity to bring out the best in each other.