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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Blood$ on October 19, 2011, 12:43:40 PM
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http://www.islanddefjam.com/artist/news_single.aspx?nid=10296&artistID=7320
http://vimeo.com/30764515
let's hope it sticks this time, and one week after Rick Ross' album... interesting
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One of the biggest mysteries in hip-hop today to me is the huge amount of love Young Jeezy's music gets. I'm not going to sit here and say he's wack or anything, I listen to his stuff aswell, but I really don't see anything special that he does that means he deserves the success he's had over any other random street dope rapper.
Anyone care to explain his appeal to me?
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album art:
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Had the same release date last year didn't it? That didn't happen. Don't be surprised if it happens again.
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Hopefully this finally sticks
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Had the same release date last year didn't it? That didn't happen. Don't be surprised if it happens again.
yes it did, but the difference is there was no single, album cover, or track-listing out (well, the final tracklist ain't out yet either lol)
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I doubt I'll like more than two songs. He hasn't really dropped anything better than pure average music since his debut.
However, that single "F.A.M.E." with T.I. is incredible. Probably one of his best songs ever.
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http://vimeo.com/30764515
a snippet of the intro is playing in that video....that shit goea!! :o
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http://vimeo.com/30764515
a snippet of the intro is playing in that video....that shit goea!! :o
That sounds pretty ill.
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One of the biggest mysteries in hip-hop today to me is the huge amount of love Young Jeezy's music gets. I'm not going to sit here and say he's wack or anything, I listen to his stuff aswell, but I really don't see anything special that he does that means he deserves the success he's had over any other random street dope rapper.
Anyone care to explain his appeal to me?
I think the same can be said for most mainstream southern rappers.
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I doubt I'll like more than two songs. He hasn't really dropped anything better than pure average music since his debut.
However, that single "F.A.M.E." with T.I. is incredible. Probably one of his best songs ever.
Word. J.U.S.T.I.C.E League delivered another dope ass beat.
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I doubt I'll like more than two songs. He hasn't really dropped anything better than pure average music since his debut.
However, that single "F.A.M.E." with T.I. is incredible. Probably one of his best songs ever.
Word. J.U.S.T.I.C.E League delivered another dope ass beat.
Yeah that track was hella dope, interested too see what he can bring, especially with the Ross "beef" and with Gibbs for inspiration
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I doubt I'll like more than two songs. He hasn't really dropped anything better than pure average music since his debut.
However, that single "F.A.M.E." with T.I. is incredible. Probably one of his best songs ever.
fame is really not that different from his other work. you only like shit because its new. there is no way you have even everheard a jeezy mixtape, never mind this 3 albums. so dont talk like u know shit about his catalog.
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I doubt I'll like more than two songs. He hasn't really dropped anything better than pure average music since his debut.
However, that single "F.A.M.E." with T.I. is incredible. Probably one of his best songs ever.
fame is really not that different from his other work. you only like shit because its new. there is no way you have even everheard a jeezy mixtape, never mind this 3 albums. so dont talk like u know shit about his catalog.
Thank you! I get so tired of people (in general) talking about and criticizing shit they don't have a single clue about. I get not liking somebody but not liking somebody and acting like you're checking their craft out at tha same time is a contradiction and you're lying.
Just keep it real and keep your opinions to yourself if you're not a fan. If you're actually going to check it out say something like "i've been hearing alot about so and so so i wanna check it out", "i like the beat to that song so i'ma buy/download this", etc. It's a dick-move to confuse an "honest opinion" with "hating".
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Anyone care to explain his appeal to me?
Ooh thank you for giving me an excuse to do some stanning! :D
Sure his formula is quite simple and followed by many others too. Basically "trap" lyrics on top of 808/909 beats with synthesizer melodies that could be from the soundtrack to "Scarface". But hey that's exactly what I wanna hear when I put on a Jeezy record. And the difference is that Jeezy doesn't half-ass it like so many others. In fact he does it really well.
He has a good ear for beats and uses some of the best producers who do this style (Don Cannon, Drumma Boy, JUSTICE League). And making these kind of beats isn't as easy as it may seem. Basically you want them to be catchy but not too corny/pop and that's an easy thing to fuck up.
He has a great voice which is instantly recognizable but still clear/comprehensible. Despite this his voice doesn't get annoying or boring very fast. Actually I feel this is true for many of the "greats". Just think about Pac, Snoop, Eminem....
The lyrics may seem a bit simple but I feel that they have a lot of depth to them actually. For example something like "wear black all week and stack all that, and these bitches do too now ain't that sad". Now some people will hear that and just be like "he rhymed "that" with "sad" and even that was kinda forced lol he's the worst lyricist ever". And the message is hardly some really insightful wisdom either as even a 5-year-old could tell you playing the dope game can get you killed. But, for some people, when it's presented like this where you have to connect the dots and then start thinking about the widows who wear black because they are in mourning of their man who died because one night the camouflage of black clothes just wasn't enough protection... Well it can really make you think, perhaps reconsider some risks you're taking and make you realize how "the stress" doesn't affect just you but maybe important people around you as well. Or maybe I'm just tripping and have completely misunderstood what he meant. :D But whatever, even if so it's still "the shit" to me.
What's also important is that the song wasn't no preachy bullshit or some "oh how horrible" social porn but those were just a couple of lines from an upbeat celebration of drug dealing. He has a good balance of the negative and the positive.
And honestly Jeezy does spit some real game, like in some song he recommends that you spend your earnings on buying nice things for your mom because the cops won't confiscate those when they come to get you. ;D Haha that shit is hilarious - because it's true - but despite being hilarious it's also some good advice. How can you hate on that?
And I haven't even got to what he's actually known for, his adlibs. He really does them well. Sometimes it's like a dialogue between the adlibs and the "regular" lyrics. Sometimes it's just cool how he reuses some adlibs in surprising places flipping the original meaning. That part of his music is still kinda "magic" to me, better not overanalyze it or I'll just embarass myself.
On a very personal tip, which I obviously don't expect to be shared by many, I like that he doesn't rap too much about getting drunk or prostitution (two things that I hate). Might seem silly but honestly way too many rappers are a tricks or (wannabe) pimps, some I'd even consider ho's. And tight alcohol advertising laws or whatever seem to have made music an advertisement billboard for the alcohol industry. Both annoy the fuck out of me. No pointless gore either.
Instead he raps a lot about weed which suits me just fine as I love weed so much I'm almost ashamed to say. Jeezy isn't a "pot professor", like say Devin the Dude, but he does seem to know what he's talking about. He certainly doesn't front by trying to use "weed vocabulary" but then using it wrong which is something that REALLY gets to the weed nerd in me lol, and is also very common among rappers.
And by the way I'm not talking about his best songs only. Many artists have some good songs but Jeezy has been very consistent during his entire career. I can pretty much put any one of his records on and then spend the next hour staring into emptiness, nodding my head with a retard smile on my face. ;D That's why he's the best.
Now to actually get on topic... this CD, or whatever is Jeezy's next CD, I will buy no matter what. I feel like I owe him already for the great mixtapes he has released for free this year and last year. Not that I don't expect it to be good. Hope the December date sticks. The fact it's said on the record label's website and not just a random blog is a good sign.
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Haha oh wow did I write all that. :D
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yeah you did, chuuch 8)
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son wen i throw on a jeezy record i feel like i got mad "swag"
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I doubt I'll like more than two songs. He hasn't really dropped anything better than pure average music since his debut.
However, that single "F.A.M.E." with T.I. is incredible. Probably one of his best songs ever.
fame is really not that different from his other work. you only like shit because its new. there is no way you have even everheard a jeezy mixtape, never mind this 3 albums. so dont talk like u know shit about his catalog.
Thank you! I get so tired of people (in general) talking about and criticizing shit they don't have a single clue about. I get not liking somebody but not liking somebody and acting like you're checking their craft out at tha same time is a contradiction and you're lying.
Just keep it real and keep your opinions to yourself if you're not a fan. If you're actually going to check it out say something like "i've been hearing alot about so and so so i wanna check it out", "i like the beat to that song so i'ma buy/download this", etc. It's a dick-move to confuse an "honest opinion" with "hating".
truth.
you know there was a thread in g-spot were some dude thought we were the same person just because we like shit that BUMPS
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New song off the album, ".38", produced by Lil Lody:
http://www.dirtyglovebastard.net/?p=41696#more-41696 (http://www.dirtyglovebastard.net/?p=41696#more-41696)
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new song is pure dopeness
tm103 gonna be ill
production from kanye and a feature from eminem
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Looking forward to hearing it. Covert art is weak but whatever. Looks like a mixtape
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LOL @ the two dumbest niggas on this forum.
All his music sounds the same & tries to mimic his debut album, which was good. If you're just going to copy music you already made & make worse songs, I'm not going to give you props for that..lol.
Then I said I like his new single, liked that preview xzibit444 posted. However ".38" has a dope beat, but that's one of Jeezy's generic sounding songs. I probably like that new single so much because it sounds different & has a dope meaning behind it; plus Justice League LACED it.
You're just ignorant. But I think you know that.
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^^^^ you can't call someone ignorant for having their own opinion cuz, that in itself is ignorance.
I read that he's packaging a TM103 documentary with the album that's narrated by Samuel L Jackson, I like this idea and the musics been dope so far, I think I'm gonna have to cop this album 8)
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All his music sounds the same & tries to mimic his debut album, which was good. If you're just going to copy music you already made & make worse songs,
its called 'having your trademark sound'. if you had actually listened to his music you would know that and not just think it all sounds indentical. just take the L and move on chammy. FAME is not the shining jewel in jeezys career that sounds different to everything else. its just another jeezy song that u happen to like.
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"FAME" is not the shining jewel in jeezys career that sounds different to everything else. its just another Jeezy song that u happen to like.
and i think that pretty much sums up everything that's bound to happen for the next 66 pages. "FAME" is good no doubt but it's hard a Jeezy Top 10.
and imho i think 102>>>>>>>>101. 101 was tha madness but 102 was tha sickness. when that album came out it was sonically bigger than i think any album out at that time. u ask me i betchu' Dre and Jimmy were takin' notes. People have forgotten how big that album really was. but i guess since "Hip Hop Is Dead" came out that year (i think) that all went to shambles and nobody gave Jay his props.
http://www.youtube.com//v/vbvYD9tGAms http://www.youtube.com//v/ElMCa_Ixupw
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"38" is a cool track, but I can say that it is mixtape-ish
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You two just don't like it (or like it less) because it doesn't have that "Trap" sound. But people with half a brain who gets a little tired of non-stop trap slang in 397 consecutive songs, with a similar sounding beat, can appreciate a song with a different sounding beat & more of a personal deeper meaning behind it.
I think the funny part here is how you two cry everytime I say somebody from the South sucks, now I'm giving Jeezy props for being good, but sounding too similar on every song, but I'm hyped for this album & you guys still want to argue about something. Y'all have an obsession.
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honestly tho, at tha end of tha day you just seek attention. 99% of the shit u say when you're reading it and actually saying it at tha same time takes away from what you're trying to stir up. try again...
actually go back and read out-loud some of tha wigger shit u be writin, it's boneheaded than a muthafucka.
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You two just don't like it (or like it less) because it doesn't have that "Trap" sound. But people with half a brain who gets a little tired of non-stop trap slang in 397 consecutive songs, with a similar sounding beat, can appreciate a song with a different sounding beat & more of a personal deeper meaning behind it.
I think the funny part here is how you two cry everytime I say somebody from the South sucks, now I'm giving Jeezy props for being good, but sounding too similar on every song, but I'm hyped for this album & you guys still want to argue about something. Y'all have an obsession.
no-one mentioned liking it less dude, we are just telling you to stfu and stop pretending its different from his other stuff because its not. take the L + move on
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^You have less variety in your musical taste than Brian. You don't have the credibility to be handing out L's. One day, you have to understand that. You listen to like three different states in the South's music.
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Anyone care to explain his appeal to me?
Ooh thank you for giving me an excuse to do some stanning! :D
Sure his formula is quite simple and followed by many others too. Basically "trap" lyrics on top of 808/909 beats with synthesizer melodies that could be from the soundtrack to "Scarface". But hey that's exactly what I wanna hear when I put on a Jeezy record. And the difference is that Jeezy doesn't half-ass it like so many others. In fact he does it really well.
He has a good ear for beats and uses some of the best producers who do this style (Don Cannon, Drumma Boy, JUSTICE League). And making these kind of beats isn't as easy as it may seem. Basically you want them to be catchy but not too corny/pop and that's an easy thing to fuck up.
He has a great voice which is instantly recognizable but still clear/comprehensible. Despite this his voice doesn't get annoying or boring very fast. Actually I feel this is true for many of the "greats". Just think about Pac, Snoop, Eminem....
The lyrics may seem a bit simple but I feel that they have a lot of depth to them actually. For example something like "wear black all week and stack all that, and these bitches do too now ain't that sad". Now some people will hear that and just be like "he rhymed "that" with "sad" and even that was kinda forced lol he's the worst lyricist ever". And the message is hardly some really insightful wisdom either as even a 5-year-old could tell you playing the dope game can get you killed. But, for some people, when it's presented like this where you have to connect the dots and then start thinking about the widows who wear black because they are in mourning of their man who died because one night the camouflage of black clothes just wasn't enough protection... Well it can really make you think, perhaps reconsider some risks you're taking and make you realize how "the stress" doesn't affect just you but maybe important people around you as well. Or maybe I'm just tripping and have completely misunderstood what he meant. :D But whatever, even if so it's still "the shit" to me.
What's also important is that the song wasn't no preachy bullshit or some "oh how horrible" social porn but those were just a couple of lines from an upbeat celebration of drug dealing. He has a good balance of the negative and the positive.
And honestly Jeezy does spit some real game, like in some song he recommends that you spend your earnings on buying nice things for your mom because the cops won't confiscate those when they come to get you. ;D Haha that shit is hilarious - because it's true - but despite being hilarious it's also some good advice. How can you hate on that?
And I haven't even got to what he's actually known for, his adlibs. He really does them well. Sometimes it's like a dialogue between the adlibs and the "regular" lyrics. Sometimes it's just cool how he reuses some adlibs in surprising places flipping the original meaning. That part of his music is still kinda "magic" to me, better not overanalyze it or I'll just embarass myself.
On a very personal tip, which I obviously don't expect to be shared by many, I like that he doesn't rap too much about getting drunk or prostitution (two things that I hate). Might seem silly but honestly way too many rappers are a tricks or (wannabe) pimps, some I'd even consider ho's. And tight alcohol advertising laws or whatever seem to have made music an advertisement billboard for the alcohol industry. Both annoy the fuck out of me. No pointless gore either.
Instead he raps a lot about weed which suits me just fine as I love weed so much I'm almost ashamed to say. Jeezy isn't a "pot professor", like say Devin the Dude, but he does seem to know what he's talking about. He certainly doesn't front by trying to use "weed vocabulary" but then using it wrong which is something that REALLY gets to the weed nerd in me lol, and is also very common among rappers.
And by the way I'm not talking about his best songs only. Many artists have some good songs but Jeezy has been very consistent during his entire career. I can pretty much put any one of his records on and then spend the next hour staring into emptiness, nodding my head with a retard smile on my face. ;D That's why he's the best.
Now to actually get on topic... this CD, or whatever is Jeezy's next CD, I will buy no matter what. I feel like I owe him already for the great mixtapes he has released for free this year and last year. Not that I don't expect it to be good. Hope the December date sticks. The fact it's said on the record label's website and not just a random blog is a good sign.
Wow, good post.
He's not for me, but its always great to see so much passion a fan has for a particular artist so respect.