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Title: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on October 20, 2011, 07:53:11 AM
hes a an og-legend n all that, but how high do u rank him as as a rapper..?



(http://cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/000/286/0000028643_350.jpg)
kinda foul. "home invasion" had some nasty-ass lyrics, n is a personal classic to me



n he usualy steals the show wit his funny guestappearances, i laughed out louad when i heard his verse on this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1BbYV7ko1s
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: doggfather on October 20, 2011, 08:06:17 AM
He's one of my top 10.

Really big fav, my 1st rap album was O.G. original gangster.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: samutahjazz on October 20, 2011, 08:09:27 AM
ehhh hes alrigh i guess, i wouldnt rank him too high given that he never put out a really solid album after home invasion. OG is an undisputed classic tho. a few of my favorite ice t songs are the West coast all stars on from wayyy back and the one on that lawhouse album "your hustle aint on" that laylaw put out. i think i should get into this music more, he's pretty good.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on October 20, 2011, 08:17:09 AM
i wouldnt consider him "talented" or anythin,
but hes hilarious  as a character tho, and i always ROFl when i hear his guest-appearance verses. funny stuff

52 or 53years old or somthin, n he doesnt give a fuck at all. hardcore n grimey till his last breath
(http://4.thisbeatgoes.net/files/2011/06/Ice-T-300x273.jpg)
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: 2euce 7even on October 21, 2011, 01:20:02 AM
idk , he´s an og tho.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: weedhead on October 21, 2011, 02:39:57 AM
Mayne ICE IS THE MUTHA FUCKEN MAN!!nuff said..What.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Aladin on October 21, 2011, 03:33:28 AM
i wouldnt consider him "talented" or anythin,

He was talented.
You have 2 consider the time when he was on top.
He was Dope, period.
Even if you listen 2 his albums nowadays. The early ones are still dope.
Plus he had a very funny and intelligent way of bringing a message.

That Intelligent way, now is very hard 2 find.
Today.. is what I call punchline rappers. They gather a whole lot of punchlines.. and write a rhyme around it.

The later Albums like; Album 6 and 7 deadly sins. Are not classics but they are descent albums.
You could listen 2 them and dont feel cheated.
His last album was str8 wack.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: RECOGNIZE187 on October 21, 2011, 06:37:58 AM
he started thiis shit...so u can't rank him...he's above...the legend...double OG! never sold out
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Okka on October 21, 2011, 07:19:36 AM
"7th Deadly Sin" is my favorite album from him. It's a classic IMO. You can listen it from the start to the last song.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: doggfather on October 21, 2011, 07:43:17 AM
I love all of his albums.

All are classics IMO.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: UCC on October 21, 2011, 08:27:32 AM
Dude's a legend, not really for being lyrical though, more for the overall choice of
what he's rapping about and being one of the first in that area.

I'd definitely put him high on a list of most influential MCs, but not that high
on just a technical lyricist type of MCs of list.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: BIGWORM on October 21, 2011, 08:49:05 AM
Legend/pioneer that trail blazed a path and blue print for west coast artists. If you have been listening to west coast music since the late 80's early 90's and can't put him in your top rappers list you need to re-evaluate. Nobody cant say shit about Ice i you don't believe me ask your favorite west coast rapper who they idolized coming up...
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 21, 2011, 09:46:31 AM
Legend/pioneer that trail blazed a path and blue print for west coast artists. If you have been listening to west coast music since the late 80's early 90's and can't put him in your top rappers list you need to re-evaluate. Nobody cant say shit about Ice i you don't believe me ask your favorite west coast rapper who they idolized coming up...

pretty much...i don't know anyone from my era that don't give him respect and doesn't know at least the first few bars of 'colors' by heart
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: KrazySumwhat on October 21, 2011, 09:51:48 AM
 I grew up listening to him as a kid. I was 8 or nine and loved ice-T. First rap tape i ever bought was "rhyme pays" i didnt buy it in 1987 though.
 I have his later albums too. Dont consider him the best rapper these days but i consider him  legend.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on October 21, 2011, 09:57:50 AM
"7th Deadly Sin" is my favorite album from him. It's a classic IMO. You can listen it from the start to the last song.


very dope album.

this was my shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rm0wT_fEtE
eerie atmosphere, n the lyrics were graphic n cool
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on October 21, 2011, 10:58:03 AM
Might not have been a NWA & a Pac if there hasdn't been an Ice-T before NWA & Pac. Or else they'd have been doing regular rap instead of gangsta rap. That's saying how gigantic his too often underrated influence on the whole West Coast is. No matter how he turned out to be after "Cop Killer", he the one who did it. Although he's almost never given props for that, even by fellow rappers.

My faves from him must be the ones he did with DJ Aladdin (also a half of Low Profile). Hell!  A track like "Bitches 2" could easily have been on the "Straight Outta Compton" tracklist!

Ice-T feat Charlie Jam "Bitches 2"
This is one of the singles & videos from Ice-T's "OG Original Gangster" album.
Produced by DJ Aladdin, DJ SLJ & Ice-T.
Further information @ http://www.icet.com/

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlfz6o_ice-t-feat-charlie-jam-bitches-2_music
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Lil Sleazy on October 21, 2011, 11:02:35 AM
Might not have been a NWA & a Pac if there hasdn't been an Ice-T before NWA & Pac. That's saying how gigantic his too often underrated influence on the whol West Coast is. No matter how he turned out to be after "Cop Killer", he the one who did it. Although he's almost never given props for that, even by fellow rappers.

Nah you're tripping. Anyone who knows anything knows Ice-T is the O.G. and even rock/metal fans give him props for Cop Killer.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on October 21, 2011, 11:11:41 AM
Might not have been a NWA & a Pac if there hasdn't been an Ice-T before NWA & Pac. That's saying how gigantic his too often underrated influence on the whol West Coast is. No matter how he turned out to be after "Cop Killer", he the one who did it. Although he's almost never given props for that, even by fellow rappers.

Nah you're tripping. Anyone who knows anything knows Ice-T is the O.G. and even rock/metal fans give him props for Cop Killer.

I know he was at that time, in the 90's but you sure he still regarded as such these days? I'm afraid youngsters now only know him as Detective Tutuola (sorry if I misspell).
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: BIGWORM on October 21, 2011, 01:36:37 PM
Might not have been a NWA & a Pac if there hasdn't been an Ice-T before NWA & Pac. That's saying how gigantic his too often underrated influence on the whol West Coast is. No matter how he turned out to be after "Cop Killer", he the one who did it. Although he's almost never given props for that, even by fellow rappers.

Nah you're tripping. Anyone who knows anything knows Ice-T is the O.G. and even rock/metal fans give him props for Cop Killer.

ice cube was rapping like the beastie boys  until he bit ice-t
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Cordozzar Drakko on October 21, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
Might not have been a NWA & a Pac if there hasdn't been an Ice-T before NWA & Pac. That's saying how gigantic his too often underrated influence on the whol West Coast is. No matter how he turned out to be after "Cop Killer", he the one who did it. Although he's almost never given props for that, even by fellow rappers.

Nah you're tripping. Anyone who knows anything knows Ice-T is the O.G. and even rock/metal fans give him props for Cop Killer.

ice cube was rapping like the beastie boys  until he bit ice-t

My point, he was doing regular rap, not gangsta rap. Not even to speak about Yella & Dre with WCWC...
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Aladin on October 22, 2011, 08:40:14 AM
I love all of his albums.

All are classics IMO.

All are  classics???
Really? even his last one?
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on October 22, 2011, 10:09:40 AM
i wouldnt consider him "talented" or anythin,

He was talented.
You have 2 consider the time when he was on top.
He was Dope, period.
Even if you listen 2 his albums nowadays. The early ones are still dope.
Plus he had a very funny and intelligent way of bringing a message.

That Intelligent way, now is very hard 2 find.
Today.. is what I call punchline rappers. They gather a whole lot of punchlines.. and write a rhyme around it.

The later Albums like; Album 6 and 7 deadly sins. Are not classics but they are descent albums.
You could listen 2 them and dont feel cheated.
His last album was str8 wack.

i disagree, Ice has never been "talented". he made a handful of classic songs, and had some great/funny punchlines - but as a rapper/performer/mc,, he was never considered to be "dope"
not even in his early days as a b-boy wit that electro shit, when he was pullin on Afrika Baambaattas skirt,, askin for his acceptance as a peer

Ice made his career, by goin against the grain wit controversial songs like "cop killer" n "6 in the mornin", n givin birth to gangstarap  - thats  where his mark stems from, not as a "dopeass rapper"
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: doggfather on October 22, 2011, 10:14:49 AM
I love all of his albums.

All are classics IMO.

All are  classics???
Really? even his last one?

That's maybe not.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: E Dub on October 22, 2011, 01:42:15 PM
pretty much...i don't know anyone from my era that don't give him respect and doesn't know at least the first few bars of 'colors' by heart

 8)
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: ez8o5 on October 22, 2011, 02:38:37 PM
top 30 probably
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: 13th Duke on October 23, 2011, 10:06:10 AM
I have to admit, I completely respect the guy and I completely understand his position as a legend in the game. He influenced a lot of what we now call Modern hip-hop and in some ways he was the original bad guy of rap (along with NWA soon after). He changed a lot in the game.

But I really don't listen to his music at all. He has some classics in his collection and some great songs and I know his discography, but in terms of repeat plays his music has never really made me come back.
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: OldSkool on October 23, 2011, 10:16:00 AM
I have to admit, I completely respect the guy and I completely understand his position as a legend in the game. He influenced a lot of what we now call Modern hip-hop and in some ways he was the original bad guy of rap (along with NWA soon after). He changed a lot in the game.

But I really don't listen to his music at all. He has some classics in his collection and some great songs and I know his discography, but in terms of repeat plays his music has never really made me come back.

Totally agree. Ice is a legend, no doubt and needs to be respected. Totally sided with Ice after Soulaboys disrespected remarks. However lyrically there's many ahead of him, but Ice left his mark on hip hop!

One thing that I really like about Ice is when he gets interviewed, look back at old interviews, he has charisma and always was well spoken and got intellgent points across!
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: Az on October 23, 2011, 03:51:09 PM
Ice-T is SO underrated. His delivery might not be up there with the greats but his style and charisma was on another level and still is. He was kickin down doors and pushin the boundaries in music with the likes of N.W.A, Public Enemy etc and speakin on real issues at the time. And for that reason alone he deserves props. True OG.

Classic Ice-T tracks:

99 problems
Colours
O.G
New Jack Hustler
That's How I'm Livin
Escape from the Killin Fields
You Played Yourself
The Hunted Child
Home Invasion
Straight Up Nigga
Bitches 2
Lifestyles of the Rich and Infamous
6' N' Tha Mornin
G Style
Title: Re: how high do you rank Ice-T?
Post by: bouli77 on October 23, 2011, 07:36:21 PM
He's very talented IMO. his flow was impressive, that's talent right here. lyrically not so much but he was very decent. very well rounded IMO. he was not the most technical, that's for sure but he had presence, charisma, and wit, and that makes him a talented entertainer. I was listening to Home Invasion recently and it's still very bumpable in 2011.