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Title: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 15, 2011, 08:46:06 AM
Only 8-8 for me last week  :( brings me to 19-11 total

So two huge pieces of news this week: Matt schaub and Matt cassel are reportedly done for the season. The chiefs were already falling apart so this news is whatever but man you have to feel bad for the texans. They finally look like serious contenders and now their hit with injuries. First Williams then Johnson now schaub. I still see them winning the division off the strength of their running game but they likely are one and done.

Anyway here's my picks

Jets
Jags
Lions
Packers
Dolphins
Raiders
Cowboys
Ravens
Rams
49ers
Falcons
Bears
Giants
Patriots
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on November 15, 2011, 10:09:13 AM
Jets
Lions
Packers
Cowboys
Ravens
Jags
Bills
Raiders
Seahawks
49ers
Titans
Bears
Giants
Patriots
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 15, 2011, 10:28:01 AM
Jets
Lions
Packers
Cowboys
Ravens
Jags
Bills
Raiders
Rams
49ers
Falcons
Bears
Eagles
Pats
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: polepositon on November 15, 2011, 01:31:52 PM
ravens
jags
redskins
tampa
carolina
buffalo
vikings
rams
bears
49ers
patriots
falcons
giants
broncos
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 17, 2011, 08:13:48 PM
I think my worst fear is schottenheimer being brought back next year. His playbook and playcalling is embarrassing .

How many times are you going to motion your fullback from lining up wide to the backfield for no purpose. Or calling fake end around to a run up the middle and never calling an end around. Sending three receivers bunched on one side all running routes that stop before the first down marker on third down
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on November 17, 2011, 08:30:44 PM
Wow, Tebow is the man.

If I'm a betting man, I don't see Sanchez leading a game winning drive here. 58 seconds with 2 timeouts is possible but I don't think so.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 17, 2011, 08:41:33 PM
I'm embarrassed for the jets. What the fuck was Rex Ryan thinking sending 8 guys like that? It was obvious tebow was going to run. What a joke.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on November 17, 2011, 08:44:35 PM
Shitchez does it again!
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 17, 2011, 09:01:51 PM
Wow, Tebow is the man.

If I'm a betting man, I don't see Sanchez leading a game winning drive here. 58 seconds with 2 timeouts is possible but I don't think so.

He did it last season against the texans with 55 seconds and no timeouts. But not today.If you saw the stat Sanchez leads all qbs with fourth quarter game winning drives since last season.

But the offense has regressed. Anyone blaming this solely on Sanchez isn't actually watching the game. The playcalling is horrendous. And letting Braylon Edwards walk was the worst move they made. Burress is only useful in the redzone.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: TheRemedy360Ressurection on November 17, 2011, 09:15:58 PM
LOL @ Tim Tebow shitting on the Jets
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on November 17, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
Wow, Tebow is the man.

If I'm a betting man, I don't see Sanchez leading a game winning drive here. 58 seconds with 2 timeouts is possible but I don't think so.

He did it last season against the texans with 55 seconds and no timeouts. But not today.If you saw the stat Sanchez leads all qbs with fourth quarter game winning drives since last season.

But the offense has regressed. Anyone blaming this solely on Sanchez isn't actually watching the game. The playcalling is horrendous. And letting Braylon Edwards walk was the worst move they made. Burress is only useful in the redzone.
I hear ya

I just didn't have faith here and I wasn't wrong

5-5 is pathetic right now
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 17, 2011, 11:26:34 PM
It is. This game could cost them playoffs. Looking at their schedule they could easily win out and make the wild card. But they aren't playing well at all. Who knows. The bengals have a tough road ahead and I see them folding up shop.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 17, 2011, 11:49:25 PM
I'm crying. I have no words for this game but put Greg McElroy in.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on November 18, 2011, 12:21:40 PM
It is. This game could cost them playoffs. Looking at their schedule they could easily win out and make the wild card. But they aren't playing well at all. Who knows. The bengals have a tough road ahead and I see them folding up shop.
Call me crazy but I think the Titans still have a shot at a playoff berth if they can go 5-2 very possible (ATL, BUF, TB, NWO, IND, JAX, IND)

I'm hoping (realistically) losses to ATL & NWO and beat Buf, TB, Ind, Jax, Hou

10-6 might get us in wild card (or division win if the Texans go 2-4 the rest of the way without Schaub)
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on November 18, 2011, 07:56:13 PM
It is. This game could cost them playoffs. Looking at their schedule they could easily win out and make the wild card. But they aren't playing well at all. Who knows. The bengals have a tough road ahead and I see them folding up shop.
Call me crazy but I think the Titans still have a shot at a playoff berth if they can go 5-2 very possible (ATL, BUF, TB, NWO, IND, JAX, IND)

I'm hoping (realistically) losses to ATL & NWO and beat Buf, TB, Ind, Jax, Hou

10-6 might get us in wild card (or division win if the Texans go 2-4 the rest of the way without Schaub)


2 and 4 is very unlikely. It all depends on Leinart's  first game. If they can beat the Jags then I guarantee they'll be at least 3-2 going into week 17 against the (unless Peyton returns for the Thursday night game in late December, you just better hope that it is Peyton's first game back and not second game back). But assuming no Peyton Manning the Texans should beat the Jags, Panthers, and Colts, and Cinci is hardly unbeatable with another strong possibility of beating ATL in Houston. Wade's defense is playing good enough to avoid a losing record for the last 6 games no mater how bad Leinart plays. Of course this is Leinart with a defense and a run game. He had neither in Arizona.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on November 20, 2011, 11:39:57 AM
^ Will see how things are affected. If Leinart plays bad, the run game will suffer (teams will zero in on it even more) and so will the defense (if Leinart can't keep the offense on the field).
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: BiggSadot on November 20, 2011, 12:48:43 PM
Buffalo lookin like the worst team in the league rite now. Hope they repeat this performance when Titans come to town.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 20, 2011, 01:23:43 PM
Packers are going undefeated.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Lunatic on November 20, 2011, 05:11:45 PM
I am in love with a man and his name is Jake Locker
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Russell Bell on November 20, 2011, 08:10:59 PM
Desean Jackson is a fucking idiot.

That is all.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 21, 2011, 08:51:52 AM
Desean Jackson is a fucking idiot.

That is all.

I assume you're talking about his 50 yard taunting penalty lol. Don't get that call though because there wasn't two fouls on the play. There was a Giants penalty DURING the play & once DeSean stepped out of bounds, that was AFTER the play. Obviously the Eagles were declining whatever penalty was being charged against the Giants & the Giants had no choice but to take 15 yards off the catch. Why they put it back at the one is really stupid.

Love him though. You wouldn't approve of the day when I fell for this man lol.

https://www.youtube.com/v/xLNbfxotfuE
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 21, 2011, 08:58:10 AM
Shitchez does it again!

Shitzpatrick has been really playing awesome since that contract extension  :-X
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on November 22, 2011, 12:03:53 PM
Shitchez does it again!

Shitzpatrick has been really playing awesome since that contract extension  :-X


He's playing the exact same. The only difference is the ball isn't bouncing his way like it was earlier in the season. He's a hit or miss gunslinger that makes you win big or lose big. Having a guy at center that never snapped a ball before doesn't help. And if you recall I said he wouldn't be any good for the Jets because of that. At least I can admit when one of my guys isn't all he's hyped up to be. People like you would argue that Joe Namath was better than Johnny Unitas.

I think the real plight of the Bills was losing Kyle Williams and having absolutely no one to replace him. It destroyed all the pressure the Bills were capable of bringing. I haven't seen anything close to a sack by them in quite some time.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 22, 2011, 12:18:38 PM
I've never said Sanchez is elite. I'm just not a reactionary idiot like most. Sanchez has improved every season. Check the stats. I've watched every game he's played. He's playing with a non existent running game, a terrible o line, an oc who doesn't have a clue. Yet he's still putting up the best numbers so far of his career.His first year he had the best running game in the league and one of the best o lines. He's doing more with less.What else is he supposed to do? He's only 25 and in his third year. He will continue to improve every year and he will be a great qb.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 22, 2011, 12:22:37 PM
I mean would you like me to post up videos of the buffoonery that is the jets playcalling? How about a 3 rd and 6, where we go five wide and all five receivers run a 4 yard hook pattern. Or how about a 3rd down in your end in a tight game and a direct snap to the 3rd string rb is called(which results in a 20 yard loss). Watch the games. Sanchez is not the problem.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on November 22, 2011, 08:16:38 PM
I mean would you like me to post up videos of the buffoonery that is the jets playcalling? How about a 3 rd and 6, where we go five wide and all five receivers run a 4 yard hook pattern. Or how about a 3rd down in your end in a tight game and a direct snap to the 3rd string rb is called(which results in a 20 yard loss). Watch the games. Sanchez is not the problem.


Sanchez may not be as big a problem and Schotty Jr but his inability to hit wide open guys down the field does him in every year so far. It's almost silly how open some of his guys were in last years playoffs and how far off he over threw them. They should have destroyed Indy in that playoff game.

And I said it before and you tried to argue it, but with Peyton, and his offense, on your Jets you'd be going for a 3 peat right now. While Sanchez on that joke of a Colts team would still be leading the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: OG Jaydc on November 22, 2011, 08:40:30 PM
He's young. He started one year then jumped into starting in the NFL. Compare his numbers to guys like roethlisberger, Brady, Eli manning etc in their third seasons to his now. He's right their with them.Every qb misses throws, especially young ones. If this was year nine I'd be worried. But hell look at Alex smith, he's flourishing under new coaching. Now I'm not saying he's going to be those players but he's way too young to just throw overboard for a rental vet. He's the franchise qb and will be for a while. The Peyton thing is moot. You can play hypotheticals on teams until the cows come home. Nothing is certain you can't just say insert this player here and they will do this. Way too many variables involved.Anything can happen.

And like I've said before the colts team is built around Peyton, even the defense. You can stick any other qb in that team and they would be trash. The team is built for him and him alone. And that's just a very poor way to build a team. Peyton also likes to take every single practice snap, which is why they've never been able to develop a back up.
Title: Re: NFL week 11 discussion thread
Post by: Shallow on November 23, 2011, 06:55:43 AM

And like I've said before the colts team is built around Peyton, even the defense. You can stick any other qb in that team and they would be trash. The team is built for him and him alone. And that's just a very poor way to build a team. Peyton also likes to take every single practice snap, which is why they've never been able to develop a back up.

That's one theory. My theory is that the team is simply built like shit and he is so good that it covers up all the garbage that team ever was. But the players on that team aren't the real problem. The coaches and GMs are. They don't coach to beat a team, they coach to not beat yourself. And they only have that one Superbowl because two teams, the Pats in the second half of the AFC game, and the Bears went far out of their way to beat themselves. Had the Colts played to beat the Saints they would have stuck with the man to man that was giving Drew a lot of trouble and they would have wrapped up that game by the end of the first half.

Most teams of NFL players are only really as bad as last year's Niners. The roster hasn't changed, but the record is night and day.

Peyton brings coaching and talent as a single player, and adding him and him alone, and letting him run his offense would have made the Jets beat whoever they would have played in the 09 game and then beat the Saints. They would have handed it to the Steelers last year easy to, but the Packers may still have won it all. You also could have bulked up your D even more because Peyton doesn't need high contract kill players around him. Garcon, Collie, and Tamme would be enough for the Jets to win those big games with the Rex and the D on the other side.

Hypothetical my ass. It's like saying if the Jazz had MJ they still would have lost to the Bulls in the finals. And don't think for a second that Rex, who is giving Brunell some first team snaps in practice, isn't thinking about trying to get the Colts to let go of Peyton for a first round pick. Then trading Sanchez for a second round pick to the highest bidder (maybe Washington or Seattle). Because even if Peyt only has two good years left; back to back rings is a nice way of going out.