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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Sir Petey on January 29, 2012, 02:02:13 PM
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all phone recorded vocals...would yall even have cared?
i think it would have probably been the death of his career.
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this thread would have been better if you claimed 2pac DID record an album in prison so then the eurofags would go apeshit searching for it
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his career woulda been done if he did that. all eyez was set up great though he went from almost being a relic to arguably being the man in 96.
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lol @ petey baiting these europacs
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why record over the phone if you finished 200 songs before going to jail?
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why record over the phone if you finished 200 songs before going to jail?
exactly. pac had plenty of potential hit singles in 1995 that weren't released
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his career woulda been done if he did that. all eyez was set up great though he went from almost being a relic to arguably being the man in 96.
Lol wut? Almost a relic? Wtf? How old are you like 16?
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its a hypothetical thread.
wayne has a billion songs in the can too but ppl demanded a jail verse from him on lights out.
i was just wondering how his hardcore fans would respond to this hypothetical situation.
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his career woulda been done if he did that. all eyez was set up great though he went from almost being a relic to arguably being the man in 96.
Lol wut? Almost a relic? Wtf? How old are you like 16?
people really didn't give a fuck about pac being locked up and was not a factor in 95 aside from the album me against the world. a lot of people thought it was over for him.
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its a hypothetical thread.
wayne has a billion songs in the can too but ppl demanded a jail verse from him on lights out.
i was just wondering how his hardcore fans would respond to this hypothetical situation.
honestly man its too hypothetical to know the answer
what would the songs sound like quality wise and what would the hooks be like from jail? lol
besides Pac said he only wrote 2 songs the entire stint in jail....his creativity was killed except for that movie
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his career woulda been done if he did that. all eyez was set up great though he went from almost being a relic to arguably being the man in 96.
Lol wut? Almost a relic? Wtf? How old are you like 16?
people really didn't give a fuck about pac being locked up and was not a factor in 95 aside from the album me against the world. a lot of people thought it was over for him.
Lmao. People didn't really give a fuck about pac except that multi platinum album he released in the same year, being shot,being on trial and constantly in the news. It's quite evident you weren't old enough at that point in your life to know what your talking about. 2pac was one of the biggest rappers in music at that point. Smh.
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yeah MATWs temptations video had a lot of people in it since pac couldnt make it
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let me help blue magic express himself.
what hes saying is that pac was losing street credibilty while locked up also dont forget he got charged with raping a bitch in the ass...you had radio djs saying he got raped.
rappers like chino getting real comfy making punchlines about pac
niggas was on mtv jams making tupac jokes and shit...as the first mainstream rapper to get knocked he was losing mad credibilty and becoming the running joke of hip hop despite his chart topping album until he aligned himself with the hardest nigga in the industry.
shit was a big chess move yall know that.
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How do you lose street cred after being shot and while going to prison?
And really, it was one dj and chino xl. Sounding pretty revisionist my friend.
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actually homie no it wasnt those were only the ones you read about or heard him bitching about. and he didnt go to prison for getting shot he went to prison for raping a bitch in the ass...that aint gangsta.
i can remember watching mtv jams on my way to school those mornings i seen fat joe out of all people say something crazy but then he tried t cover it up like "one love to tupac"
raekwon had a line on cuban linx "dont wanna see tupac"
wendy williams had the highest rated show on the radio in NY every day she was on there talking about how pac was a rapist and how he got raped flex even shit on him if im not mistaken.
SNL/MAD tv was doing skitz on this nigga for having a album charting while in jail. on def jam and comic view everyone had a pac joke
he was becoming a running joke.
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people really didn't give a fuck about pac being locked up and was not a factor in 95 aside from the album me against the world. a lot of people thought it was over for him.
You mean aside from that whole having the #1 album in the country thing? Sorry, I'll admit Biggie and Bad Boy had 1995 by the balls when it came to hits but Pac was nowhere near irrelevant at that point.
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Nobody said he went to prison for getting shot. Getting shot is not a crime. You're not really backing up anything your saying either, it's just words.
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not sure what you would like me to back up i guess it was one of those thing where you kind of had to be there jay...it almost sounds like your upset over all this.
i cant pull clips of live tv or radio up from 1995 there was no internet like that, in those days you got your info from the many different rap mags (beat down, rap sheet, rap pages, the source etc.) the few rap friendly shows which were on the air like the arsenio hall show the box pump it up lukes peep show etc. syndicated hip hop shows that were played on urban radio stations etc. i wish i could go back and peep half that shit again...im sure im not the only person on here who knows about these things happening.
i mean post jail interviews first thing he says is "people were running my name through the dirt while i was locked up talking like i was a punk etc." he knowingly admitted it.
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we all know Pac got set up
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Nah not at all. Regardless, if somebody is a socalled relic like blue magic is claiming then why would he be talked about as much as you're saying? And I'm fairly certain we are close to the same age I remember all of this pretty clearly. Blue magic, who thinks no mercy is an amazing album, is just talking out his ass with no real idea of what he's speaking on.
2pac was just getting bigger and bigger, the jail sentence just made him that much more in the public eye. He had a lot of haters, still does. People make jokes at every entertainers expense. But all that does is prove their relevance, otherwise they wouldn't be making jokes in the first place.Sad thing is, if he stayed in jail he'd probay be alive today, but it is what it is. It's still crazy to think he died at 25. He accomplished so much in such little time. Sometimes I think what it'd be like if he didn't die. But who knows. He was a volatile, fucked up person.
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No need to phone recordings, God bless Me Against The World.
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all phone recorded vocals...would yall even have cared?
i think it would have probably been the death of his career.
dude was too big an artist to do such shit... he wasn't on the independent circuit like Mac Dre or X-Raided, he was under contract with Interscope so his shit had to be polished. his label would never have allowed him to make such a move unless they saw a massive financial profit to it, and even so they would have found a way to make the shit sound as clean as possible.
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it would be more succesful and mainstream as x-raided material.
pac did release one album "from jail" tho, it was "MATW" and went #1
so you have the answer.
pac-haters make me laugh.
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let me help blue magic express himself.
what hes saying is that pac was losing street credibilty while locked up also dont forget he got charged with raping a bitch in the ass...you had radio djs saying he got raped.
rappers like chino getting real comfy making punchlines about pac
niggas was on mtv jams making tupac jokes and shit...as the first mainstream rapper to get knocked he was losing mad credibilty and becoming the running joke of hip hop despite his chart topping album until he aligned himself with the hardest nigga in the industry.
shit was a big chess move yall know that.
correct. the dude got charged wit rape and got shot which was not gangsta in 94-95. muthafuckas forget me against the world was his first #1 and platinum album.
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his career woulda been done if he did that. all eyez was set up great though he went from almost being a relic to arguably being the man in 96.
Lol wut? Almost a relic? Wtf? How old are you like 16?
people really didn't give a fuck about pac being locked up and was not a factor in 95 aside from the album me against the world. a lot of people thought it was over for him.
Lmao. People didn't really give a fuck about pac except that multi platinum album he released in the same year, being shot,being on trial and constantly in the news. It's quite evident you weren't old enough at that point in your life to know what your talking about. 2pac was one of the biggest rappers in music at that point. Smh.
no dumbass you weren't old enough. i'm from the east coast only thing poppin for real was anything bad boy in 95 or wu shit. some niggas bumped pac some didn't. when he went to death row everybody jumped on the bandwagon. fuck outta here he went from barely goin gold to 6 million and really if it was a single album it woulda been 3 million. stop playin wit me.
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his career woulda been done if he did that. all eyez was set up great though he went from almost being a relic to arguably being the man in 96.
Lol wut? Almost a relic? Wtf? How old are you like 16?
people really didn't give a fuck about pac being locked up and was not a factor in 95 aside from the album me against the world. a lot of people thought it was over for him.
Lmao. People didn't really give a fuck about pac except that multi platinum album he released in the same year, being shot,being on trial and constantly in the news. It's quite evident you weren't old enough at that point in your life to know what your talking about. 2pac was one of the biggest rappers in music at that point. Smh.
no dumbass you weren't old enough. i'm from the east coast only thing poppin for real was anything bad boy in 95 or wu shit. some niggas bumped pac some didn't. when he went to death row everybody jumped on the bandwagon. fuck outta here he went from barely goin gold to 6 million and really if it was a single album it woulda been 3 million. stop playin wit me.
Blue Magic.i am older then you & you are fool of bullshit . please bad boy was still not shit in 95 & east coast at the time was still west coast bitch. Jaydc is back is right about 2pac biggest rappers in music at that point. please 2pac went easily gold with his 2nd album strickly 4 my . but by the time of me against the world 2pac was main stream. please the east coast in the early 90's were a bunch of ignorant closeminded asshole fan. so being east coast in that era ment you were closeminded to everything but east coast hip hop & rap . so east coast don't count for shit at that time . every where elase everybody was on 2pac's & snoop doggs jock while people were just discovering & hardly knowing who biggie or wu-tang was at all. the only big for east coast in 1995 was nas with it was written album.
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dog you love nelly and you cant type a complete paragraph or coherent sentence to save your life, no one takes your views or opinions seriously most (like myself) dont even read them.
step your phonics game up fucker.
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his career woulda been done if he did that. all eyez was set up great though he went from almost being a relic to arguably being the man in 96.
Lol wut? Almost a relic? Wtf? How old are you like 16?
people really didn't give a fuck about pac being locked up and was not a factor in 95 aside from the album me against the world. a lot of people thought it was over for him.
Lmao. People didn't really give a fuck about pac except that multi platinum album he released in the same year, being shot,being on trial and constantly in the news. It's quite evident you weren't old enough at that point in your life to know what your talking about. 2pac was one of the biggest rappers in music at that point. Smh.
no dumbass you weren't old enough. i'm from the east coast only thing poppin for real was anything bad boy in 95 or wu shit. some niggas bumped pac some didn't. when he went to death row everybody jumped on the bandwagon. fuck outta here he went from barely goin gold to 6 million and really if it was a single album it woulda been 3 million. stop playin wit me.
Blue Magic.i am older then you & you are fool of bullshit . please bad boy was still not shit in 95 & east coast at the time was still west coast bitch. Jaydc is back is right about 2pac biggest rappers in music at that point. please 2pac went easily gold with his 2nd album strickly 4 my . but by the time of me against the world 2pac was main stream. please the east coast in the early 90's were a bunch of ignorant closeminded asshole fan. so being east coast in that era ment you were closeminded to everything but east coast hip hop & rap . so east coast don't count for shit at that time . every where elase everybody was on 2pac's & snoop doggs jock while people were just discovering & hardly knowing who biggie or wu-tang was at all. the only big for east coast in 1995 was nas with it was written album.
I've seen a lot of revisionist history on this board lately on 2pac stuff, but the part I bolded is outright fictional. If you really believe the East Coast wasn't holding it's own, you're delusional.
* Ready to Die dropped in September '94. "Big Poppa" and "One More Chance" were released as singles in 1995 and both were certified Platinum that year. He was also featured on "Can't You See", which was another Monster hit.
* Not to mentioned Junior Mafia was popping (both "Players Anthem" and "Get Money" were certified Gold and Platinum respectively).
* Method Man's album dropped in November '94 and was still getting burn in '95. Don't remember "You're All I Need To Get By"? It dropped in '95, was one of the years' biggest hits, certified platinum, and won a grammy
* ODB's album dropped spring of '95. "Shimmy Shimmy Ya" was a big hit
* Naughty by Nature dropped Poverty's Paradise in Spring of '95. "Feel Me Flow" was a pretty big hit
* Raekwon "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx..." dropped in the summer and went gold. One of the most influential East Coast Rap albums of that era
* Mobb Deep "The Infamous" dropped in Spring of 1995
Oh yea, by the way, It Was Written didn't drop until July of 1996; "If I Ruled The World" was released as a single in May of 1996.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
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this kid types like ppl with aspergers syndrom talk.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
if ? there is not if ,dumbass. it is fact i have been living & listening to hip hop since 1982 . the east coast scene from 1989 to 1996 was not as strong as west coast scene. the west coast was running shit in early 90's not east coast . since you are from east coast you are the one with bias point of view . the east coast hated & was closeminded & ignorant to anything that was not east coast during the eraly 90's . so my statement is not even close to ridiculous or blind or ignroant like your statement is .
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this kid types like ppl with aspergers syndrom talk.
kid? one i not some stupid ignorant kid like you. i am grown 34 year old adult . so get your facts straight ,ignorant ass canadian. i am not stupid nerd like you that cares about grammer on the stupid ass internet. only nerds & losers care about that crap. so shut your stupid mouth & stop stalking me like a gay ass stalker you are.
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dog i gotta know, are you like an african exchange student or some thing? you type like your from zamunda or some shit.
i read all his posts in prince akeem (eddie murphys) voice from coming to america hahaha
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
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dog i gotta know, are you like an african exchange student or some thing? you type like your from zamunda or some shit.
i read all his posts in prince akeem (eddie murphys) voice from coming to america hahaha
keep making fun of shit like some punk ass loser internet nerd.i was bron & raised in st louis ,mo . like i have told people a million times i am half african american & half native american.i am from era that made fun of & look down on people who cared about computers or grammer because the only people who did were geeks,nerds,dorks, & losers . i ran the streets & played lots of sports aka meaning i was one of the cool kids of my time unlike you.
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his career woulda been done if he did that. all eyez was set up great though he went from almost being a relic to arguably being the man in 96.
Lol wut? Almost a relic? Wtf? How old are you like 16?
people really didn't give a fuck about pac being locked up and was not a factor in 95 aside from the album me against the world. a lot of people thought it was over for him.
Lmao. People didn't really give a fuck about pac except that multi platinum album he released in the same year, being shot,being on trial and constantly in the news. It's quite evident you weren't old enough at that point in your life to know what your talking about. 2pac was one of the biggest rappers in music at that point. Smh.
no dumbass you weren't old enough. i'm from the east coast only thing poppin for real was anything bad boy in 95 or wu shit. some niggas bumped pac some didn't. when he went to death row everybody jumped on the bandwagon. fuck outta here he went from barely goin gold to 6 million and really if it was a single album it woulda been 3 million. stop playin wit me.
Blue Magic.i am older then you & you are fool of bullshit . please bad boy was still not shit in 95 & east coast at the time was still west coast bitch. Jaydc is back is right about 2pac biggest rappers in music at that point. please 2pac went easily gold with his 2nd album strickly 4 my . but by the time of me against the world 2pac was main stream. please the east coast in the early 90's were a bunch of ignorant closeminded asshole fan. so being east coast in that era ment you were closeminded to everything but east coast hip hop & rap . so east coast don't count for shit at that time . every where elase everybody was on 2pac's & snoop doggs jock while people were just discovering & hardly knowing who biggie or wu-tang was at all. the only big for east coast in 1995 was nas with it was written album.
you full of shit. who didn't know who biggie or wu tang was in 95 ? biggie was all over radio and t.v. and on joints wit total, r. kelly, junior mafia, etc. odb was on a mariah carey remix !!!!!!! remember that joint ? you crazy as hell if the east wasn't doin' it big sonny shit the whole fuss was the east coast don't show the west coast no love. not taking nothing away from pac dude was dope. i'm just sayin' when he got shot and then went to jail he lost credibility. i still remember that vibe cover ''this is my last interview. if i get killed i want people to have the real story. LMAO.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
are you serious ? every wu member who put out a solo in 95 sold well.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
if ? there is not if ,dumbass. it is fact i have been living & listening to hip hop since 1982 . the east coast scene from 1989 to 1996 was not as strong as west coast scene. the west coast was running shit in early 90's not east coast . since you are from east coast you are the one with bias point of view . the east coast hated & was closeminded & ignorant to anything that was not east coast during the eraly 90's . so my statement is not even close to ridiculous or blind or ignroant like your statement is .
People from fucking Siberia know East Coast Rap in '95 was hot. You have to be a closeminded dumbass if you really believe that East Coast Rap was in the graveyard in 1995. Read my post before; all those points I made are 100% facts.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
are you serious ? every wu member who put out a solo in 95 sold well.
That poster is either delusional or semi-retarded to 100% believe that 1995 was a terrible year for East Coast Rap.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
if ? there is not if ,dumbass. it is fact i have been living & listening to hip hop since 1982 . the east coast scene from 1989 to 1996 was not as strong as west coast scene. the west coast was running shit in early 90's not east coast . since you are from east coast you are the one with bias point of view . the east coast hated & was closeminded & ignorant to anything that was not east coast during the eraly 90's . so my statement is not even close to ridiculous or blind or ignroant like your statement is .
People from fucking Siberia know East Coast Rap in '95 was hot. You have to be a closeminded dumbass if you really believe that East Coast Rap was in the graveyard in 1995. Read my post before; all those points I made are 100% facts.
you told the truth and nothin' but the truth.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
are you serious ? every wu member who put out a solo in 95 sold well.
That poster is either delusional or semi-retarded to 100% believe that 1995 was a terrible year for East Coast Rap.
he better go peep some mag covers from '95.
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The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
Being all over the radio and MTV (when they actually played videos) and having singles go platinum isn't what I would really consider being underground. I'd consider 1995 more of a bounce-back year when they moved back closer to the forefront of Hip-Hop. Obviously when Dogg Food dropped and 2pac was bailed it changed the game.
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The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
Being all over the radio and MTV (when they actually played videos) and having singles go platinum isn't what I would really consider being underground. I'd consider 1995 more of a bounce-back year when they moved back closer to the forefront of Hip-Hop. Obviously when Dogg Food dropped and 2pac was bailed it changed the game.
we still did well.... fugees sold 6 million, nas 2 million, foxy, kim, jay z, tribe and de la, LL..... i bumped the shit outta death threatz, str.8 off tha streetz,dogg food, and the villain in black also.
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The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
Being all over the radio and MTV (when they actually played videos) and having singles go platinum isn't what I would really consider being underground. I'd consider 1995 more of a bounce-back year when they moved back closer to the forefront of Hip-Hop. Obviously when Dogg Food dropped and 2pac was bailed it changed the game.
we still did well.... fugees sold 6 million, nas 2 million, foxy, kim, jay z, tribe and de la, LL..... i bumped the shit outta death threatz, str.8 off tha streetz,dogg food, and the villain in black also.
Most of the EC stuff you mentioned was 96, but I missed LL's Mr. Smith album. That was another one that came out in 95. "Hey Lover" was another huge hit and won a grammy in '97.
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The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
Being all over the radio and MTV (when they actually played videos) and having singles go platinum isn't what I would really consider being underground. I'd consider 1995 more of a bounce-back year when they moved back closer to the forefront of Hip-Hop. Obviously when Dogg Food dropped and 2pac was bailed it changed the game.
we still did well.... fugees sold 6 million, nas 2 million, foxy, kim, jay z, tribe and de la, LL..... i bumped the shit outta death threatz, str.8 off tha streetz,dogg food, and the villain in black also.
Most of the EC stuff you mentioned was 96, but I missed LL's Mr. Smith album. That was another one that came out in 95. "Hey Lover" was another huge hit and won a grammy in '97.
please believe it !!!!!!!! the east always held our own and we always will !!!!!!!! this just show that the muthafuckas who bumpin they dick suckers about the east wasn't blastin' off heavy don't know shit about hip hop at all and was introduced to rap by 106 and park. do some research first midwestrider. this shit ain't a game wit me... hip hop is more than just our culture it's our way of life.
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this guy types and talks like hes fresh of the boat or some shit.
he never knows what hes talking about he literally thinks nelly started southern hip hop lol.
petey you are fool shit & have no idea . one nelly did not start southern hip hop & i would never say that . 2 live crew started southern hip hop . nelly did not even start st louis hip hop . sylk smoov started st louis hip hop . i always know what i am talking about at all time . it is you who never know what you are talking about & will never know because you are from canada. i been living & lstening to hip hop since 1962 . so i will always know better . you are talking about me not being able to put a sentence but you seem worse about it then me . i just wright too fast & don't go back over what i wrote because i don't care like loser ass internet geek would .i don't have to do anything you say youngster. i don't owe you shit . your generation owes my generation & you are suppose to do what we tell you to do .
If you've been listening to hip-hop since 1982, you should know the East Coast Hip-Hop scene was far from dead. You wouldn't have made a ridiculous statement like the one I quoted earlier.
The east coast scene wasn't dead, it just sorta went back underground. East Coast album still got critical acclaim and had some impact (Illmatic) but they didn't sell shit, compared to the west coast artist. Essentially The west coast style and sound got a an extreme over exposure, even albums that received luke warm reviews still sold well. That's when Artist started to Mimic Westcoast Albums style on their singles. Biggies first album essentially copied the Chronic in terms of selling a album. The Chronic used party singles, Beef Tracks to drum up interest, while the more hardcore joints were used to fill the album. Ready to Dies singles were mostly smooth tracks that mimicked the G-Funk sound, yet the rest of the album is hardcore east coast rap.
Biggie was the only artist at the time who could match critical success with album sells.
are you serious ? every wu member who put out a solo in 95 sold well.
That poster is either delusional or semi-retarded to 100% believe that 1995 was a terrible year for East Coast Rap.
he better go peep some mag covers from '95.
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damn u bitches get mad butthurt, Illmatic only went Gold, and that was in 1996 2 years after its release in 94.
I'm not saying they released shit albums, or they putting up todays shitty numbers, I'm saying when they got released despite the critical acclaim those releases got, each 1 of em managed to fall short of expectations. I mean shit Illmatic is constantly cited as the Bench Mark album to lyricism as Dr. Dres The Chronic was to production, but didn't even get Gold until 2 years?
Wu Tangs 1993 Release didn't go plat until 95, despite the fact it got Rave reviews across the board. That's all I'm saying. 1996 and beyond is when the artist started really selling again
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Saying the east wasnt shit in 95 is as dumb as saying 2pac was becoming a relic and a running joke in 95.
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Wu Tangs 1993 Release didn't go plat until 95, despite the fact it got Rave reviews across the board. That's all I'm saying. 1996 and beyond is when the artist started really selling again
Kinda proved my point with this. Sales of East Coast albums picked up in '95 because of how popular Biggie became. You're making a logical argument which is respectable. You're not making a dumbass statement that's flat out wrong like that other moron was doing.
Saying the east wasnt shit in 95 is as dumb as saying 2pac was becoming a relic and a running joke in 95.
Pretty much. People forget he was the first artist to have the #1 album in the country while behind bars. A lot of revisionist history when it comes to 2pac on this board.