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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: dnjp4life on February 08, 2012, 04:04:45 AM
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I recognise that this topic has been done to death, and many may already know a lot of these things, but I stumbled across this currently active discussion involving Greg Kading, one of the detectives investigating 2Pac's death. He drops some pretty interesting stuff on here, check it out:
http://truthabouttupac.com/video/who-killed-tupac-shakur-and-biggie-smalls-interview-with-1?xg_source=activity&id=4521485%3AVideo%3A189699&page=4#comments
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I recognise that this topic has been done to death, and many may already know a lot of these things, but I stumbled across this currently active discussion involving Greg Kading, one of the detectives investigating 2Pac's death. He drops some pretty interesting stuff on here, check it out:
http://truthabouttupac.com/video/who-killed-tupac-shakur-and-biggie-smalls-interview-with-1?xg_source=activity&id=4521485%3AVideo%3A189699&page=4#comments
these same o storys r starting to remind me of 2pac remixes same o shit different beat
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This info was out a few months ago when this guy wrote a book. The book seems interesting, but on the surface I'm not buying his accusations on the Biggie murder.
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One of the most trustworthy sources about Pac's death (imo) is The FBI War on Tupac Shakur and Black Leaders (http://www.amazon.com/Shakur-Leaders-Guerra-Contra-L%C3%ADderes/dp/0979146917/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328709586&sr=8-1).
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I aint gonna read all that shit the reason 2pac died was simple:
2pac became a blood through affiliation (Blessed in) after going to death row, got into with a fucking Crip, the crip retaliated boom he died. Simple as that, no fucking east-coast westcoast bullshit, no Suge over masters bullshit.. All it was, was just fucking gang violence. The proof is clear as day, no goverment conspiracy, no "prophecy", he died because he made the mistake of getting into gangbanging, simpe as that. If he had never started trying to be a gangster in 96, he'd probably see 97. Hell the line "You from the south" says it all, if he wasn't trying to be that shit, fucking Suge Knight probably would of just got his body guards to do it.
IMO 2pac deserved to die, that motherfucker was Rich, had the biggest, fastest highest selling album at the time, was doing 3 Movies at the time, yet started thugging after he got famous and gangbanging LONG after he was famous at during his peak of stardom. That's just stupid.
watch all the euro-wiggers going red in rage
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Unfortunately a lot of fans overseas don't think it's that simple, and they tend to think it was some bullshit government conspiracy.
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I aint gonna read all that shit the reason 2pac died was simple:
2pac became a blood through affiliation (Blessed in) after going to death row, got into with a fucking Crip, the crip retaliated boom he died. Simple as that, no fucking east-coast westcoast bullshit, no Suge over masters bullshit.. All it was, was just fucking gang violence. The proof is clear as day, no goverment conspiracy, no "prophecy", he died because he made the mistake of getting into gangbanging, simpe as that. If he had never started trying to be a gangster in 96, he'd probably see 97. Hell the line "You from the south" says it all, if he wasn't trying to be that shit, fucking Suge Knight probably would of just got his body guards to do it.
IMO 2pac deserved to die, that motherfucker was Rich, had the biggest, fastest highest selling album at the time, was doing 3 Movies at the time, yet started thugging after he got famous and gangbanging LONG after he was famous at during his peak of stardom. That's just stupid.
watch all the euro-wiggers going red in rage
true.
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Unfortunately a lot of fans overseas don't think it's that simple, and they tend to think it was some bullshit government conspiracy.
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Dude is stating what more likely seems to be the truth. Ain't no fucking gov conspiracy. He tried to show his loyalty jumping on enemy, & he got banged on, str8 simple as that. Biggie died in sort of retaliation for pacs murder.
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There was definitly FBI harassement for a long time, including assassination attempts. Most of you seem to ignore the fact that Tupac was not just a rapper, but also a Black Panther leader. I'm not gonna waste my time getting into all the details, but if you want to talk about this subject I suggest you do your homework first ;).
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Nah, i don't think government is responsible for his death. I mean, sure Tupac was in gov's radar, but I don't think he was that of an actual menace to eliminate him that way. They could of do it a million different & more professionnal way.
If u really think about it, Suge would of have been a very more serious threat to autorities. Dude was feared, even inside police world. I mean not physically feared, but because of the influence he had. Shit is linked to the rampart scandal. Shit is linked to corrupted cops. Dude got Cochran & Kenner on his legal team, Longo or whatever his name is in his pocket.. Looks more like an actual, a concrete menace than Tupac at that time. So, they killed a rapper, but not a behind the scene big man who was actually a big more menace inside at least LA country..
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I aint gonna read all that shit the reason 2pac died was simple:
2pac became a blood through affiliation (Blessed in) after going to death row, got into with a fucking Crip, the crip retaliated boom he died. Simple as that, no fucking east-coast westcoast bullshit, no Suge over masters bullshit.. All it was, was just fucking gang violence. The proof is clear as day, no goverment conspiracy, no "prophecy", he died because he made the mistake of getting into gangbanging, simpe as that. If he had never started trying to be a gangster in 96, he'd probably see 97. Hell the line "You from the south" says it all, if he wasn't trying to be that shit, fucking Suge Knight probably would of just got his body guards to do it.
IMO 2pac deserved to die, that motherfucker was Rich, had the biggest, fastest highest selling album at the time, was doing 3 Movies at the time, yet started thugging after he got famous and gangbanging LONG after he was famous at during his peak of stardom. That's just stupid.
watch all the euro-wiggers going red in rage
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There was definitly FBI harassement for a long time, including assassination attempts. Most of you seem to ignore the fact that Tupac was not just a rapper, but also a Black Panther leader. I'm not gonna waste my time getting into all the details, but if you want to talk about this subject I suggest you do your homework first ;).
BLACK PANTHER LEADER?
lmao silly euros
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None of us will ever know, however the easiest theory is clearly the Orlando Anderson one.
As someone pointed out earlier - Suge was feared, and had a lot of pull in the police/legal side of things true, BUT, that was easily squashed by jail and removing his bankable business..
Arguably you could say they attempted to assassinate 2Pac by putting him in jail over a BS rape/sexual assault charge, but he was more vocal, and influential. He wouldn't be the kind of guy you'd expect to keep his mouth shut, and when you can't keep your big mouth shut, and at the same time - gather huge audiences across the globe, and preach struggle, anti-system, real change, and subtlety put in 'possible' truths in your music, and couple that with his family background and history, it's not far fetched to believe that he may have been targeted especially after he never shut up with being put in jail to demoralise him. Apart of me thinks it's just BS though, but then you look at other things in the world. JFK for example, speaks on secret societies and is later killed by some random 'Lee Harvey Oswald', and killing a guy like 2Pac would be pretty easy considering all of his enemies.
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Fuck out here
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2PAC & Biggie where just puppets in this game, just like suge and puffy but they was over them and who was over suge & puffy?
Suge gave Reggie the order to tell Pacīs Bodyguard to not have a weapon, everybody felt weird about this order but they did it except one of them and this person was sent away from the scenario. suge told pac not to wear a bulletproof vest. Orlando Anderson & His gang was used for this scenario.
Puffy knew that a guy from the nation of Islam was talking to him and was pulled over by bigīs bodyguard after the biggie hit, puffy asked him if he knew about this talking shit with puffy situation and he asked him if he knew his description, the bodyguard dude knew him.
2Pac & Biggie knew what they was doing, they hustled till they died.
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There was definitly FBI harassement for a long time, including assassination attempts. Most of you seem to ignore the fact that Tupac was not just a rapper, but also a Black Panther leader. I'm not gonna waste my time getting into all the details, but if you want to talk about this subject I suggest you do your homework first ;).
BLACK PANTHER LEADER?
lmao silly euros
dont go to hard on gbee hes a crosseyed retard...im sure it impairs his reading and comprehension somewhat.
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At 18 years old, Tupac headed the New Afrikan Panthers. Some more info on it for you non believers: https://www.youtube.com/v/rtGqWuWmGZk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGqWuWmGZk)
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...and we all know what a pivotal movement and driving force that was for african americans in the 90s. ::)
what pac did was probably about the equivalent of when me and the rest of the "hispanic students" would get together in highschool for latin club and plan school trips and latin pride activities lmao.
wiggers love to romanticize 2pacs life, at 18 dude was just starting to find his inner thug that you euro peons love to embrace...we all know he was a walking contradiction but you trying to act like this cat was fulfilling huey p's legacy or some shit as a high powered militant activist and the truth was at this time dude was boning white women and drinking 40s and shit...thats a conflict of interest if i ever heard one
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...and we all know what a pivotal movement and driving force that was for african americans in the 90s. ::)
what pac did was probably about the equivalent of when me and the rest of the "hispanic students" would get together in highschool for latin club and plan school trips and activities lmao.
wiggers love to romanticize 2pacs life, at 18 it was documented he was running around fucking white girls and was just starting to find his inner thug that you euro peons love to embrace.
So now that you know that Tupac was indeed a Black Panther leader, you resort to discredit the Panthers and saying Pac probably didn't do anything substantial? Yeah there are a lot of Pac stans, but you are the definition of a hater.
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that was new african panthers, not new black panthers . what did he actually do then, and what did his group do ?
itīs not hater talk to state the obvious, tupac was full of contradictions . whether you like his music or not that thing is pretty clear. and i happen to mostly like his music but labeling him a saint is too much.
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but labeling him a saint is too much.
Who's labeling him a saint? It seems like some people on this boards get a knee jerk reaction whenever Tupac's name is mentioned.
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wasnīt referring to you but some people do it here if you havenīt noticed .
some folks consider you either like everything tupac ever did or are a hater .
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I aint gonna read all that shit the reason 2pac died was simple:
2pac became a blood through affiliation (Blessed in) after going to death row, got into with a fucking Crip, the crip retaliated boom he died. Simple as that, no fucking east-coast westcoast bullshit, no Suge over masters bullshit.. All it was, was just fucking gang violence. The proof is clear as day, no goverment conspiracy, no "prophecy", he died because he made the mistake of getting into gangbanging, simpe as that. If he had never started trying to be a gangster in 96, he'd probably see 97. Hell the line "You from the south" says it all, if he wasn't trying to be that shit, fucking Suge Knight probably would of just got his body guards to do it.
IMO 2pac deserved to die, that motherfucker was Rich, had the biggest, fastest highest selling album at the time, was doing 3 Movies at the time, yet started thugging after he got famous and gangbanging LONG after he was famous at during his peak of stardom. That's just stupid.
watch all the euro-wiggers going red in rage
Wow! don't u think u went alil. over board with the -DESERVED TO DIE-statement..i mean HITLER deserve to die..GEORGE BUSH deserves to die..SLAVE MASTERS deserves to die...but i understand where u were trying to go with it. 8)
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I wouldn't say he DESERVED to die, but he certainly was asking for it. He was too hyped off Tyson destroying Seldon and just wanted to fight as he liked to do, but he picked one fight too many. Pac was too smart to be acting so dumb after getting a second chance at life
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lmao how the fuck was 2pac a black panther leader
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lmao how the fuck was 2pac a black panther leader
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I wouldn't say he DESERVED to die, but he certainly was asking for it. He was too hyped off Tyson destroying Seldon and just wanted to fight as he liked to do, but he picked one fight too many. Pac was too smart to be acting so dumb after getting a second chance at life
he didnt pick the fight...suge n frank could have killed 2 birds with one stone...when dude came to pac about seein the person who snatched his chain..they shoulda sent 4 the goons
u dont put ya investment in harms way..plus it wasnt pac chain that got snatch in the 1st place..
that entire fight situation alone..frank could have saved pac from...