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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TidyKris on March 22, 2012, 01:45:58 AM
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When Suge put Snoops The Last Meal ablum up on the Deathrow website along side Dead Man Walking and asked people to choose which album was better,
was it an actual poll?
Were there any results from that?
It ould have been pretty funny for Suge if the votes came back that The Last Meal was the better album....which it prob was!
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I think Dead Man Walking won, but then you could vote multiple times, so the voting system was biased considering it'd be admin staff, as well as dedicated Death Row fanatics checking out the website..
Besides that, I was one of the few who actually liked Dead Man Walking, and thought that it was a solid album..
Take away the movie skits, add the Prince sample to head doctor, and adding in those Eastside Party and Too high tracks that were meant to appear on it could have had a better reception from rap fans overall, because there were a lot of good tracks, overlooked due to lack of promotion, and a more current sought after album with Dre, Rage, Soopafly, battlecat, Nate and so on, it just couldn't compete on that level
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I think Dead Man Walking won, but then you could vote multiple times, so the voting system was biased considering it'd be admin staff, as well as dedicated Death Row fanatics checking out the website..
Besides that, I was one of the few who actually liked Dead Man Walking, and thought that it was a solid album..
Take away the movie skits, add the Prince sample to head doctor, and adding in those Eastside Party and Too high tracks that were meant to appear on it could have had a better reception from rap fans overall, because there were a lot of good tracks, overlooked due to lack of promotion, and a more current sought after album with Dre, Rage, Soopafly, battlecat, Nate and so on, it just couldn't compete on that level
Yup, I remember that. I was bummed because the project got delayed, even though it had already appeared in Best Buy advertisements, and I remember at some point, it was supposed to include Midnight Love, which was a song I had been trying to hunt down.
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dead man walking was dope as hell.
it was basically a polished version of his "FUCK DEATHROW" mixtape he dropped in 97 or 98
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I think Dead Man Walking won, but then you could vote multiple times, so the voting system was biased considering it'd be admin staff, as well as dedicated Death Row fanatics checking out the website..
Besides that, I was one of the few who actually liked Dead Man Walking, and thought that it was a solid album..
Take away the movie skits, add the Prince sample to head doctor, and adding in those Eastside Party and Too high tracks that were meant to appear on it could have had a better reception from rap fans overall, because there were a lot of good tracks, overlooked due to lack of promotion, and a more current sought after album with Dre, Rage, Soopafly, battlecat, Nate and so on, it just couldn't compete on that level
Yup, I remember that. I was bummed because the project got delayed, even though it had already appeared in Best Buy advertisements, and I remember at some point, it was supposed to include Midnight Love, which was a song I had been trying to hunt down.
Yeh, it was on that Doggfather single, but it too good a song to be placed in a B-side single like that.. I can't remember Midnight Love being included, but because you mentioned that song, as well as the 2 previously mentioned, I suppose it'd be safe to assume that the unreleased songs that appeared on the Death Row's Snoop's greatest hits were to appear on Dead Man Walkin
dead man walking was dope as hell.
it was basically a polished version of his "FUCK DEATHROW" mixtape he dropped in 97 or 98
It was, even for anyone who had got that mixtape from yahoo auctions back in the day. I had that mixtape, and loved the album. Now, it shows just how good quality-wise the sound was from the Death Row then, to the Death Row now
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I think Dead Man Walking won, but then you could vote multiple times, so the voting system was biased considering it'd be admin staff, as well as dedicated Death Row fanatics checking out the website..
Besides that, I was one of the few who actually liked Dead Man Walking, and thought that it was a solid album..
Take away the movie skits, add the Prince sample to head doctor, and adding in those Eastside Party and Too high tracks that were meant to appear on it could have had a better reception from rap fans overall, because there were a lot of good tracks, overlooked due to lack of promotion, and a more current sought after album with Dre, Rage, Soopafly, battlecat, Nate and so on, it just couldn't compete on that level
Thanks for the info, yeah i guess it would have been pretty biased. I really like The Last Meal album but never got a copy of Dead Man Walking so i cant really comment
on it. I would think that i would maybe have liked DMW better as i love the mid 90's deathrow sound.
As for Midnite Love, that is easily one of my fave snoop tracks of all time!!
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Yeh, it was on that Doggfather single, but it too good a song to be placed in a B-side single like that.. I can't remember Midnight Love being included, but because you mentioned that song, as well as the 2 previously mentioned, I suppose it'd be safe to assume that the unreleased songs that appeared on the Death Row's Snoop's greatest hits were to appear on Dead Man Walkin
Sad to say, but I actually never knew that, regarding Midnight Love being on Tha Doggfather single. I already owned the Tha Doggfather album, so I think when it came out, I wasn't really looking into the CD singles much. Was that the domestic single or an import single? I don't recall seeing it at local stores, but then again, I wasn't all that impressed with the album to begin with, but I do remember listening to the album again from start to finish looking for Midnight Love when I first heard it on the radio (but didn't know what it was called).
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Yeh, it was on that Doggfather single, but it too good a song to be placed in a B-side single like that.. I can't remember Midnight Love being included, but because you mentioned that song, as well as the 2 previously mentioned, I suppose it'd be safe to assume that the unreleased songs that appeared on the Death Row's Snoop's greatest hits were to appear on Dead Man Walkin
Sad to say, but I actually never knew that, regarding Midnight Love being on Tha Doggfather single. I already owned the Tha Doggfather album, so I think when it came out, I wasn't really looking into the CD singles much. Was that the domestic single or an import single? I don't recall seeing it at local stores, but then again, I wasn't all that impressed with the album to begin with, but I do remember listening to the album again from start to finish looking for Midnight Love when I first heard it on the radio (but didn't know what it was called).
Yeah it does suprise me that it was only released as i B-Side as it also had a music video. Pretty strange for a track that's only going to be sold as B-Side.
I thought it must have appreared on a soundtrack or something but maybe not
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Yeah it does suprise me that it was only released as i B-Side as it also had a music video. Pretty strange for a track that's only going to be sold as B-Side.
I thought it must have appreared on a soundtrack or something but maybe not
It definitely didn't appear on any other official releases (at least not until Death Row Snoop Doggy Dogg Greatest Hits dropped), but it's not the first time a B-side got the video treatment on Death Row. Hit 'Em Up comes to mind, even though that video was played less than a handful of times.
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The track was originally intended for another Snoop project "doggumentary" EP that got scrapped. It was to be the first single from it and they included it within Doggfather. That entire album was basically going to be used as a quick promotional tool for Doggfather anyway because some of the tracks were remixes (Doggfather remix and Snoop's Snoop Bounce Rock remix which both coincidently appeared on that same Doggfather single) I guess they just saw it being a cheaper method to integrate the video and songs into the albums singles without having to release another whole new album, what would have inevitably been a flop IMO, and damaging to Death Row's succesful reputation after the Doggfathers disappointing early sales figures... If I remember right, I have a midnight love promo in CD, and vinyl, and both had midnight love as the feature track whilst Doggfather being the B-side along with the Doggfather remix, so it's almost clear that they were using these new songs to promote the earlier album... You see it in todays pop albums, at xmas time, they re-release them with 4 new bonus songs, and have a bonus song having a video to assist it.. Doggumentary was no different given the number of tracks that they planned to put on it
I think it would have been the domestic single it was on. Although I bought mine in the UK in my local music store, a lot of albums were imported from the US including the All Eyez on Me album when it first came out in that same store. Some larger stores at the time such as HMV were only in major city's back then, and stores like those were the only ones they seemed to distribute to directly.
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The track was originally intended for another Snoop project "doggumentary" EP that got scrapped. It was to be the first single from it and they included it within Doggfather. That entire album was basically going to be used as a quick promotional tool for Doggfather anyway because some of the tracks were remixes (Doggfather remix and Snoop's Snoop Bounce Rock remix which both coincidently appeared on that same Doggfather single) I guess they just saw it being a cheaper method to integrate the video and songs into the albums singles without having to release another whole new album, what would have inevitably been a flop IMO, and damaging to Death Row's succesful reputation after the Doggfathers disappointing early sales figures... If I remember right, I have a midnight love promo in CD, and vinyl, and both had midnight love as the feature track whilst Doggfather being the B-side along with the Doggfather remix, so it's almost clear that they were using these new songs to promote the earlier album... You see it in todays pop albums, at xmas time, they re-release them with 4 new bonus songs, and have a bonus song having a video to assist it.. Doggumentary was no different given the number of tracks that they planned to put on it
I think it would have been the domestic single it was on. Although I bought mine in the UK in my local music store, a lot of albums were imported from the US including the All Eyez on Me album when it first came out in that same store. Some larger stores at the time such as HMV were only in major city's back then, and stores like those were the only ones they seemed to distribute to directly.
this is pretty accurate, only i believe "Doggumentary EP" was set to be released AFTER "Doggfather", not before...I also remember some peeps on here sayin that it actually WAS released in a very limited supply as a Japanese import or some shit. then again, someone on here once claimed that they had an OG copy of "Doggystyle" which featured "Next Episode OG" and came with a red CD instead of a blue one. but to my recollection, there were more than a few peeps out there who spoke of "Doggumentary EP" coming out and then immediately being pulled off of shelves.
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That's what I was meaning. It was to be released "afterwards" as a quick promotional tool to help increase awareness and sales for the disapointing Doggfather album, that's why most of the EP was to consist of remixed Doggfather cuts
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I think all the tracks from the EP have leaked, right?
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I think all the tracks from the EP have leaked, right?
no
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I remember seeing an interview with Snoop a while back where he said his next album was going to be called Snoopafly. Was that supposed to be a Death Row album, or was that something that was to happen after he signed to No Limit? I can't remember but I think it was on BET.
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I remember seeing an interview with Snoop a while back where he said his next album was going to be called Snoopafly. Was that supposed to be a Death Row album, or was that something that was to happen after he signed to No Limit? I can't remember but I think it was on BET.
"Snoopafly" was supposed to be his next album on Death Row after "Doggfather"
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I think all the tracks from the EP have leaked, right?
no
"Vapors" [Battlecat Remix] is the only one not available to the public but some people say it was out for a short period of time many years ago...
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if i remember correctly midnight love was meant to be the first single from doggumentary (his deathrow ep that was to have dropped in 97 before his 3rd album)
old ass track listings had that vapors remix on it too i think.
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if i remember correctly midnight love was meant to be the first single from doggumentary (his deathrow ep that was to have dropped in 97 before his 3rd album)
old ass track listings had that vapors remix on it too i think.
yes...read the thread
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I think all the tracks from the EP have leaked, right?
no
"Vapors" [Battlecat Remix] is the only one not available to the public but some people say it was out for a short period of time many years ago...
I thought the live version of "Vapors" w/Charlie Wilson was supposed to be on the EP? I think I have that version.
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I think all the tracks from the EP have leaked, right?
no
"Vapors" [Battlecat Remix] is the only one not available to the public but some people say it was out for a short period of time many years ago...
I thought the live version of "Vapors" w/Charlie Wilson was supposed to be on the EP? I think I have that version.
Unlikely as it's a recording of Snoop performing on Saturday Night Live.
It is possible though..
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I think all the tracks from the EP have leaked, right?
no
"Vapors" [Battlecat Remix] is the only one not available to the public but some people say it was out for a short period of time many years ago...
I thought the live version of "Vapors" w/Charlie Wilson was supposed to be on the EP? I think I have that version.
Unlikely as it's a recording of Snoop performing on Saturday Night Live.
It is possible though..
A live version was released on the "Vapors" CDS. I had just assumed that like the "Snoop Bounce (Remix)", "Snoop's Upside Ya Head (Remix)" and "Midnight Love", it was meant for Doggumentary.
http://www.discogs.com/Snoop-Doggy-Dogg-Vapors/release/322237
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if i remember correctly midnight love was meant to be the first single from doggumentary (his deathrow ep that was to have dropped in 97 before his 3rd album)
old ass track listings had that vapors remix on it too i think.
yes...read the thread
lol i want saying you were wrong you big sensitive teddy bear i was basically running down my own memory...i was working at a record store back in the mid/late 90s and knew more about the deathrow scene then most cali rap fans in them days, i know/knew a cat from detroit named dj motion and he was in suges entourage during the glory years he used to personally drop off the makaveli mixtapes fresh from suge knight himself at our record stores. anyways he had actual copies and promo for doggumentary and the inside out album.
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if i remember correctly midnight love was meant to be the first single from doggumentary (his deathrow ep that was to have dropped in 97 before his 3rd album)
old ass track listings had that vapors remix on it too i think.
yes...read the thread
lol i want saying you were wrong you big sensitive teddy bear i was basically running down my own memory...i was working at a record store back in the mid/late 90s and knew more about the deathrow scene then most cali rap fans in them days, i know/knew a cat from detroit named dj motion and he was in suges entourage during the glory years he used to personally drop off the makaveli mixtapes fresh from suge knight himself at our record stores. anyways he had actual copies and promo for doggumentary and the inside out album.
You know with this post, Euros are gonna start friend requesting you on a daily basis now right?
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not really man everybody knows some one who knew someone...shit some of us here claim to have suge and the crips AND bloods on speed dial lmao
i used to be deeply rooted into the flint hip hop scene and flint hip hop shared a special connection to the westcoast.
the chronic and mc breeds 2nd album was recorded at the same time and mc breed had access to all dr dres session players etc and he befrended the doc and erotic d colin wolfe among others so flint rappers made connections with cali rappers through breed and dfc which explains why warren g production and doc writing credits are all over dfc and mc breeds first albums.
mc breeds family had a group called DFC and a group called top authority were like offshoots of this family, i used to hook shit up for them and even carry records and speakers for them at shows so thats how i ended up meeting mc breed and dfc and doing security at a few esham natas shows and even chilling with the dayton family.
those credentials got me a job at the record store and there i would have to rub shoulders with distributors and other industry slime balls....this is before the internet shit was a real grind and being involved with it was a prideful thing
....off topic you have no idea how much work i put in to get a few cases of dazs first independent album raw in our store there was a big demand in the streets for some gangster shit this was in the bling era hip hop was getting soft and they sent us two copies of daz album...a cd i thought to only be available on the streets of cali so i swooped them up and bootlegged a few of them to my homies and next thing you know ppl are calling and asking for it etc creating a demand etc. daz and i go way back lol i tried hard to get directly ahold of him to get shows booked i always had to go through bigg a and never got any get back. i guess michigan was just too small time for a superstar like daz lmao...a few years later we were booking d12 and lloyd banks and g unit and shit.
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if i remember correctly midnight love was meant to be the first single from doggumentary (his deathrow ep that was to have dropped in 97 before his 3rd album)
old ass track listings had that vapors remix on it too i think.
yes...read the thread
lol i want saying you were wrong you big sensitive teddy bear i was basically running down my own memory...i was working at a record store back in the mid/late 90s and knew more about the deathrow scene then most cali rap fans in them days, i know/knew a cat from detroit named dj motion and he was in suges entourage during the glory years he used to personally drop off the makaveli mixtapes fresh from suge knight himself at our record stores. anyways he had actual copies and promo for doggumentary and the inside out album.
never thought u said any1 was wrong.. just sayin, it looks like u made ur post without readin the thread, cuz u repeated what was already said. big sensitive teaddy bear lmao
anyways, so the album was pressed? thats what i thought....bet that shit is rare as fuck.
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i used to own a big ass cardboard cut out that was made and put together as a promo item to hold copies of the inside out compilation when the actual shit never shipped we was like wtf?
why waste all that promo money? supposedly it was to cut off those two dre songs
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i used to own a big ass cardboard cut out that was made and put together as a promo item to hold copies of the inside out compilation when the actual shit never shipped we was like wtf?
why waste all that promo money? supposedly it was to cut off those two dre songs
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i used to own a big ass cardboard cut out that was made and put together as a promo item to hold copies of the inside out compilation when the actual shit never shipped we was like wtf?
why waste all that promo money? supposedly it was to cut off those two dre songs
That's still wasteful from a business perspective. Just because you remove songs doesn't mean you have to change the name of the album completely.
But that still seems odd as the early "Chronic 2000" ads also advertised Dre music so I don't think one was the reason for the other.
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i used to own a big ass cardboard cut out that was made and put together as a promo item to hold copies of the inside out compilation when the actual shit never shipped we was like wtf?
why waste all that promo money? supposedly it was to cut off those two dre songs
When the album was first announced as "Inside Out", there were no Dr. Dre tracks on it. When the name changed to "Chronic 2000", that's when the Dre tracks were initially put on the compilation.
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good old dayz 8)
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good old dayz 8)
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word but suge knew tha last meal was better. he was just hating.
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good old dayz 8)
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word but suge knew tha last meal was better. he was just hating.
I'm still surprised Death Row had so little material of Snoops to release on DMW......or maybe they wanted to hold stuff back, or couldn't get clearance to use the beats/features? The last track 'Me And My Doggs' was lifted straight of Tha Doggfather..how dumb was that! :eh:
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good old dayz 8)
(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/8a2539547c8f41f0994301e9fb8c90d4/l.gif)
word but suge knew tha last meal was better. he was just hating.
The last track 'Me And My Doggs' was lifted straight of Tha Doggfather..how dumb was that! :eh:
not as dumb as ur existence
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good old dayz 8)
(http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/152/8a2539547c8f41f0994301e9fb8c90d4/l.gif)
word but suge knew tha last meal was better. he was just hating.
I'm still surprised Death Row had so little material of Snoops to release on DMW......or maybe they wanted to hold stuff back, or couldn't get clearance to use the beats/features? The last track 'Me And My Doggs' was lifted straight of Tha Doggfather..how dumb was that! :eh:
it was dumb. shoulda been replaced wit somethin else.
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I'm still surprised Death Row had so little material of Snoops to release on DMW......or maybe they wanted to hold stuff back, or couldn't get clearance to use the beats/features? The last track 'Me And My Doggs' was lifted straight of Tha Doggfather..how dumb was that! :eh:
Whatever though, I was happy with it. Tha Last Meal was more radio-friendly and modern, but I guarantee that I played Dead Man Walkin far more often. Hit Rocks bumped nicely in my car back in the day.