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Title: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area on December 14, 2012, 11:04:20 AM
Whenever people think of Dre and his protégées the ones that come to mind are Snoop Eminem 50 and now Kendrick. Game has been holding it down and he never gets any recognition. That California Rebublic Mixtape was better than most albums this year. I just bumped Jesus Piece and I gotta say I like it better than Good Kid Maad City.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 11:24:32 AM
u liked "R.E.D" too, and that album was sub-par.....haven't heard his new one yet, but I've heard enough to know he aint got the same fire he did when "Documentary" and "Doctors Advocate" came out.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area on December 14, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
when did i say i like RED? i just liked the track with tyler and wayne on that album, don't even remember the rest. I rank Jesus Piece up there with Documentary if not better.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 11:34:14 AM
when did i say i like RED? i just liked the track with tyler and wayne on that album, don't even remember the rest. I rank Jesus Piece up there with Documentary if not better.

u crazy as fuck
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Mietek23 on December 14, 2012, 01:49:11 PM
I rank Jesus Piece up there with Documentary if not better.

lol, that kills your credibility in this discussion  :D
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Will_B on December 14, 2012, 03:17:50 PM
Game was Dre's mouthpiece when Dre didn't want to be gangsta no more.

Without a major creative team behind him Game is nothing material wise (but he's a still a good MC)
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: sofdark on December 14, 2012, 04:36:47 PM
No Dre's forgotten childs are the one who signed with the Math and never released shit
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: doublee313 on December 14, 2012, 05:09:24 PM
when did i say i like RED? i just liked the track with tyler and wayne on that album, don't even remember the rest. I rank Jesus Piece up there with Documentary if not better.

Whoa.  That track with Tyler and Wayne was wack.  And no way is Jesus Piece even close to Documentary.  You must be on the new Game style (Cash Money).  I can't listen to him after LAX.  He's not even Westcoast anymore.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: dubsmith_nz on December 14, 2012, 05:25:01 PM
It's Games best album since D.A. to me, production and theme are cohesive, its good to see Game having direction after R.E.D.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 08:33:56 PM
theme is cohesive, beats are bangin...album is solid. better than i expected.


game, as a rapper, is very confused. his best assets are 1.his ear for beats 2.his strong voice+mic presence and 3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..maybe the style on "see no evil", since thats throwback game flow. but even that is an impression of shyne. too many different impressions on one album for this to be on the level of "documentary" or "doctors advocate"....also, another album with no regional sound. that said, some tracks on here bump and the concept factor makes it an interesting spin. 7/10
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 14, 2012, 08:36:06 PM
Had this album for 3-4 days and still haven't had the desire to bump it yet lol.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: eurowigger on December 14, 2012, 08:49:51 PM
3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..

I kinda see the namedropping and mimicking as his signature style. Some people are "gangsta rappers" or whatever, Game is a "rap fan rapper".
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 08:59:22 PM
3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..

I kinda see the namedropping and mimicking as his signature style. Some people are "gangsta rappers" or whatever, Game is a "rap fan rapper".


very true...but it makes him come off as more of an entertainer than an actual emcee.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: NewYork Pope on December 14, 2012, 09:05:39 PM
More like the child Dre meant to abort. He was never a Dre's protege. The harsh truth he's 50 Cent's protege, but of course Game would ever admit that.

50 Cent was pro life and saved Game. Dre didn't want to work with him. 50 pulled him back in then Dre saw 50 made it work and hop back in.

Game often inflate with his history and relationship with Dre.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 14, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
yea...if it wasnt for 50, game would be another bishop lamont, hittman, slim da mobster, etc...only not as good a rapper.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Will_B on December 15, 2012, 01:50:42 AM
theme is cohesive, beats are bangin...album is solid. better than i expected.


game, as a rapper, is very confused. his best assets are 1.his ear for beats 2.his strong voice+mic presence and 3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..maybe the style on "see no evil", since thats throwback game flow. but even that is an impression of shyne. too many different impressions on one album for this to be on the level of "documentary" or "doctors advocate"....also, another album with no regional sound. that said, some tracks on here bump and the concept factor makes it an interesting spin. 7/10



'cohesive' is the most overused word in rap of 2012 :laugh:


Yeah the dude dropped a cohesive record, every track was dumb and uninspired - he kept to his theme 5/5
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Russell Bell on December 15, 2012, 03:46:13 AM
theme is cohesive, beats are bangin...album is solid. better than i expected.


game, as a rapper, is very confused. his best assets are 1.his ear for beats 2.his strong voice+mic presence and 3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..maybe the style on "see no evil", since thats throwback game flow. but even that is an impression of shyne. too many different impressions on one album for this to be on the level of "documentary" or "doctors advocate"....also, another album with no regional sound. that said, some tracks on here bump and the concept factor makes it an interesting spin. 7/10

Wheres a game song where he is blatantly biting shyne.

I honestly havent heard a whole lotta shyne never was a big fan..
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on December 15, 2012, 04:54:29 AM
I thought that was Hitman? Or Slim Da Mobsta? Or Bishop Lamont?
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Will_B on December 15, 2012, 05:06:38 AM
I thought that was Hitman? Or Slim Da Mobsta? Or Bishop Lamont?

Hittman can stand on his own 2, but seems to chose not to.

The others are grinding hard, but maybe only scraping a living off of Dre's name
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Blasphemy (A) on December 15, 2012, 05:08:58 AM
theme is cohesive, beats are bangin...album is solid. better than i expected.


game, as a rapper, is very confused. his best assets are 1.his ear for beats 2.his strong voice+mic presence and 3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..maybe the style on "see no evil", since thats throwback game flow. but even that is an impression of shyne. too many different impressions on one album for this to be on the level of "documentary" or "doctors advocate"....also, another album with no regional sound. that said, some tracks on here bump and the concept factor makes it an interesting spin. 7/10
Game's who style in rap from day one has been ripping off other artist style, image, everything. Dude even stated he ripped of Nas rhymes and made em his rhymes, now it's funny because Eminem got a shit ton of flack for sounding like em on his demo, but Game hasn't gotten the same thing, Despite the fact he clearly has no distinction except the Name dropping, which isn't good. Think about it, G-Unit had molded his persona and style into a West Coast Rapper, which after he left stuck too, however by L.A.X. you can clearly see dude isn't truly anything special and that his first two albums were essentially sold off production, Hell his second album the 1 thing you saw in all his reviews, aside from criticizing the name dropping, was talking about how the Production is either equal or better then his Debut.

By time Red came out he adopted Wiz Khalifas style (Dying his hair red like a fag) and copying what ever was selling or getting good reviews at the time.  Strong Voice and presence on the mic is great for covering up his faults for being a shitty lyricist, but that shit clearly fails when he doesn't have proper backing production wise and you can clearly see he isn't that talented.  


All Dr. Dre ever does for his proteges is give them extra exposure, hype, and bomb production. Dr. Dre never did shit beyond that, N.W.A - Ice Cube was the Lyricist After that DOC wrote the lyrics, hell RBX wrote Let Me Ride, Every song Off  The Chronic is written by someone else, Snoop Had his own flow and persona (Granted Dr. Dre did find him) Eminem was already becoming known in Detroit for his skills as a battle Rapper.

Dr. Dre doesn't make his Proteges talented, His Proteges make it appear like he's The Talented one. No wait let me rephrase that, they make it appear like Dr. Dre has a bigger impact when in reality, They were his two most successful (Along with 50) because they had their own immense talent. So IMO Dr. Dre backing someone doesn't mean shit because all he does is give em production, sure he'll make em record stuff till he thinks it's good, but I need a Doctor got a pass so that doesn't say much because all he does is want a Hit, doesn't even have to be a good track, long as it's a Hit. Kendrick Lamar made his bones on his own, years, but Dr. Dre comes in with a co-sign suddenly He's on magazine covers, and the next best thing. It's laughable because dude didn't do shit to make his carreer, Kendrick already has his own buzz with Section .80
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: bouli77 on December 15, 2012, 05:21:17 AM
3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..

I kinda see the namedropping and mimicking as his signature style. Some people are "gangsta rappers" or whatever, Game is a "rap fan rapper".


very true...but it makes him come off as more of an entertainer than an actual emcee.

yeah pretty much. he's very good at mimicking. story goes that when he got shot he had his brother Faze bought the biggest classics in rap for him to know more about the genre.... maybe he studied too hard.
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Wheres a game song where he is blatantly biting shyne.

I honestly havent heard a whole lotta shyne never was a big fan..

the whole Untold Story album.

The only reason Dre put Game on the map was cause he was from Compton. dude was a living Compton postcard. if he hadn't been rapping about something else with the same skills, and if he had been from Fresno instead of Compton Dre would have never signed him.

Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on December 15, 2012, 07:46:20 AM
poor Game.  at least his wife is cute
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: MistaNova on December 15, 2012, 08:17:26 AM
I thought The D.O.C., Bishop Lamont and Hood Surgeon were Dr. Dre's forgotten children.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 15, 2012, 12:14:02 PM
theme is cohesive, beats are bangin...album is solid. better than i expected.


game, as a rapper, is very confused. his best assets are 1.his ear for beats 2.his strong voice+mic presence and 3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..maybe the style on "see no evil", since thats throwback game flow. but even that is an impression of shyne. too many different impressions on one album for this to be on the level of "documentary" or "doctors advocate"....also, another album with no regional sound. that said, some tracks on here bump and the concept factor makes it an interesting spin. 7/10



'cohesive' is the most overused word in rap of 2012 :laugh:


Yeah the dude dropped a cohesive record, every track was dumb and uninspired - he kept to his theme 5/5


thats because we been getting mad concept albums lately. makes sense.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 15, 2012, 12:15:10 PM
theme is cohesive, beats are bangin...album is solid. better than i expected.


game, as a rapper, is very confused. his best assets are 1.his ear for beats 2.his strong voice+mic presence and 3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..maybe the style on "see no evil", since thats throwback game flow. but even that is an impression of shyne. too many different impressions on one album for this to be on the level of "documentary" or "doctors advocate"....also, another album with no regional sound. that said, some tracks on here bump and the concept factor makes it an interesting spin. 7/10

Wheres a game song where he is blatantly biting shyne.

I honestly havent heard a whole lotta shyne never was a big fan..


http://www.youtube.com/v/nYydq9rwVuA


he molded his original style after shyne
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 15, 2012, 12:17:56 PM
theme is cohesive, beats are bangin...album is solid. better than i expected.


game, as a rapper, is very confused. his best assets are 1.his ear for beats 2.his strong voice+mic presence and 3.his immense ability to mimic other rappers. the dickriding, again, is excessive (yet entertaining). the biggest knock is that he has no signature style of his own..maybe the style on "see no evil", since thats throwback game flow. but even that is an impression of shyne. too many different impressions on one album for this to be on the level of "documentary" or "doctors advocate"....also, another album with no regional sound. that said, some tracks on here bump and the concept factor makes it an interesting spin. 7/10
Game's who style in rap from day one has been ripping off other artist style, image, everything. Dude even stated he ripped of Nas rhymes and made em his rhymes, now it's funny because Eminem got a shit ton of flack for sounding like em on his demo, but Game hasn't gotten the same thing, Despite the fact he clearly has no distinction except the Name dropping, which isn't good. Think about it, G-Unit had molded his persona and style into a West Coast Rapper, which after he left stuck too, however by L.A.X. you can clearly see dude isn't truly anything special and that his first two albums were essentially sold off production, Hell his second album the 1 thing you saw in all his reviews, aside from criticizing the name dropping, was talking about how the Production is either equal or better then his Debut.

By time Red came out he adopted Wiz Khalifas style (Dying his hair red like a fag) and copying what ever was selling or getting good reviews at the time.  Strong Voice and presence on the mic is great for covering up his faults for being a shitty lyricist, but that shit clearly fails when he doesn't have proper backing production wise and you can clearly see he isn't that talented.  


All Dr. Dre ever does for his proteges is give them extra exposure, hype, and bomb production. Dr. Dre never did shit beyond that, N.W.A - Ice Cube was the Lyricist After that DOC wrote the lyrics, hell RBX wrote Let Me Ride, Every song Off  The Chronic is written by someone else, Snoop Had his own flow and persona (Granted Dr. Dre did find him) Eminem was already becoming known in Detroit for his skills as a battle Rapper.

Dr. Dre doesn't make his Proteges talented, His Proteges make it appear like he's The Talented one. No wait let me rephrase that, they make it appear like Dr. Dre has a bigger impact when in reality, They were his two most successful (Along with 50) because they had their own immense talent. So IMO Dr. Dre backing someone doesn't mean shit because all he does is give em production, sure he'll make em record stuff till he thinks it's good, but I need a Doctor got a pass so that doesn't say much because all he does is want a Hit, doesn't even have to be a good track, long as it's a Hit. Kendrick Lamar made his bones on his own, years, but Dr. Dre comes in with a co-sign suddenly He's on magazine covers, and the next best thing. It's laughable because dude didn't do shit to make his carreer, Kendrick already has his own buzz with Section .80


these artists wouldnt be dropping classics if it werent for dre...thats all there is to it. he does a lot more than just co-sign and promote them, my boy
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: dubsmith_nz on December 15, 2012, 12:47:23 PM
^^^ hard, you only have to read interviews with Kendrick, Snoop etc, hell even the recent Too Short one to see the lengths Dre goes too to mentor and coach artists on their delivery and presence.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: E Dub on December 15, 2012, 12:49:46 PM
The kid told you from day one what he was "The Game" and cemented that in the song "The Documentary"  yet people still hate saying he has no style, he does its using the best of every other rapper and trying it for himself. Pretty smart i think and its seen him drop 5 major albums on a major label with a back catalogue of mix tapes that put to shame some of the "legends"

Game is maybe not the most lyrical dude but Jesus Piece is a well put together album that some will refuse to even entertain for some weird faggot reasons.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Jimmy H. on December 15, 2012, 12:57:58 PM
I would agree that Dre doesn't make his proteges talented but no producer does that or is expected to do that. Talent comes from inside. You can't manufacture it. No person can give another person talent. Dre's strength and the strength of any truly great producer is in finding his artists' strengths and developing them while hiding their weaknesses. And I'm not neccesarily sure that Game has an ear for beats as much as he knows which producers to fuck with. He's studied the formula well.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Enigma on December 16, 2012, 04:44:04 AM
Documentary is overrated. Had some classics but it had 50 Cent's work all over it.

I always felt Doctor's Advocate was the more complete album top to bottom and a true glimpse at who Game is as an emcee. For people saying his lyrics are subpar, I simply disagree. He has moments where he sounds like he can rap toe to toe with anyone, but then will come with uninspired lyrics time and time again (but if you delve deep, most rappers do).

Game is a true fan of hip hop, he spoke on it recently with DJ Skee stating that his career can end at any moment, and he's a rap fan before anything. Therefore, he wants to have the opportunity to do records with all his favorites while he still has the chance. I don't see anything wrong with that, especially since most of the guests are suited very well on the tracks they're placed on Jesus Piece.

He releases more music than almost any rapper in the game, he constantly adapts to changes in hip hop, always drops relatively big numbers when his album drops, and is well respected by almost every major emcee in hip hop. He's been outselling every Westcoast rapper consistently since the documentary dropped - why is this forum so quick to shit on him time and time again? He's put on for Cali more than any artist since Pac died. The only ones that can claim the same are Snoop and Ice Cube. He got dropped from G Unit less than a year after being introduced to the mainstream, yet he managed to stay wayyy more relevant than any other G-Unit counterpart. Nobody sees this though...

Case and point, Jesus Piece is right up there with Good Kid Mad City for Best Album of 2012 on the West.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: eNgIeS on December 16, 2012, 07:42:32 AM
I think some people had it in for Game before he even came out. There was always someone trying to pull him down and instead of being like others and just ignoring it (Kendrick for example didn't bite at Shyne's attempt to get attention) Game has got into it from big names (50) to small no names, has beens and never weres (40 glocc).

People always like to view it as Game was being disrespectful to 50 Cent. All Game did was want to shine and not get involved in 50's stupid beefs with Fat Joe, Nas and Jadakiss. Theres numerous stories on how 50 wanted to portray Game as below him. The How We Do video was supposed to be 50 on one side of the street repping the east coast, game on the other side reppin the west. 50 didnt want game being portrayed as on his level at all.  He then went and kicked Game out and despite the cease talk, him and G Unit went out in magazines almost immediately discrediting and incorrectly stating that Games album was written by 50. Sure 50 appeared on the first 3 singles and helped get Game his shine, no doubt he deserves credit for that, but they were trying to make it sound like Game did nothing toward that albums success.

Game retaliated which is fine, but his problem is he kept retaliating till it was a laughing joke and he lost his spot at Aftermath. For a while all you'd hear from game is another G Unit diss. it stopped being cool and funny after 300 bars.

But lets face it if 50 is really that powerful, why did his other projects like the Mobb Deep album, LLoyd Banks 2nd album, Young Bucks 2nd album, Tony Yayo and GRODT soundtrack failures. Why aren't these artists still making at least some noise. For whatever reason, be it voice, charisma, personality, skill, production, promotion......Game is the only one still able to release albums that are successful. I'm also willing to bet he makes more $ touring than any of them.

Another Aftermath project Obie Trice was given heaps of features and production, and yet outside of that album he hasn't done shit.

Game has. I'm the first to admit Game has his faults. He changes his mind too much, name drops too much and tends to go off subject in his songs (50 Cent is a better song writer than Game for sure). But i think its time to stop hating. I wasn't too pumped for Jesus Piece, but its got some very good tracks for the most parts. Even Dr. Dre gave Game props for it. R.E.D. was a good album that kind of lacked in the middle. L.A.X. was a bit all over the place. Doctors Advocate and Documentary are classics. And then you look at his mixtapes and some of the songs he left off those albums and Games had a hell of a career.

Sure he never got to the Snoop/Em/50 Cent level, but not everybody does
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 16, 2012, 12:40:05 PM
Documentary is overrated. Had some classics but it had 50 Cent's work all over it.

I always felt Doctor's Advocate was the more complete album top to bottom and a true glimpse at who Game is as an emcee. For people saying his lyrics are subpar, I simply disagree. He has moments where he sounds like he can rap toe to toe with anyone, but then will come with uninspired lyrics time and time again (but if you delve deep, most rappers do).

Game is a true fan of hip hop, he spoke on it recently with DJ Skee stating that his career can end at any moment, and he's a rap fan before anything. Therefore, he wants to have the opportunity to do records with all his favorites while he still has the chance. I don't see anything wrong with that, especially since most of the guests are suited very well on the tracks they're placed on Jesus Piece.

He releases more music than almost any rapper in the game, he constantly adapts to changes in hip hop, always drops relatively big numbers when his album drops, and is well respected by almost every major emcee in hip hop. He's been outselling every Westcoast rapper consistently since the documentary dropped - why is this forum so quick to shit on him time and time again? He's put on for Cali more than any artist since Pac died. The only ones that can claim the same are Snoop and Ice Cube. He got dropped from G Unit less than a year after being introduced to the mainstream, yet he managed to stay wayyy more relevant than any other G-Unit counterpart. Nobody sees this though...

Case and point, Jesus Piece is right up there with Good Kid Mad City for Best Album of 2012 on the West.


take it u haven't heard xzibit's new one?
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: eNgIeS on December 17, 2012, 09:24:11 AM
Documentary is overrated. Had some classics but it had 50 Cent's work all over it.

I always felt Doctor's Advocate was the more complete album top to bottom and a true glimpse at who Game is as an emcee. For people saying his lyrics are subpar, I simply disagree. He has moments where he sounds like he can rap toe to toe with anyone, but then will come with uninspired lyrics time and time again (but if you delve deep, most rappers do).

Game is a true fan of hip hop, he spoke on it recently with DJ Skee stating that his career can end at any moment, and he's a rap fan before anything. Therefore, he wants to have the opportunity to do records with all his favorites while he still has the chance. I don't see anything wrong with that, especially since most of the guests are suited very well on the tracks they're placed on Jesus Piece.

He releases more music than almost any rapper in the game, he constantly adapts to changes in hip hop, always drops relatively big numbers when his album drops, and is well respected by almost every major emcee in hip hop. He's been outselling every Westcoast rapper consistently since the documentary dropped - why is this forum so quick to shit on him time and time again? He's put on for Cali more than any artist since Pac died. The only ones that can claim the same are Snoop and Ice Cube. He got dropped from G Unit less than a year after being introduced to the mainstream, yet he managed to stay wayyy more relevant than any other G-Unit counterpart. Nobody sees this though...

Case and point, Jesus Piece is right up there with Good Kid Mad City for Best Album of 2012 on the West.


take it u haven't heard xzibit's new one?

I heard X's. i wasnt hyped for it as I felt X had fallen off through the last decade didnt like his last 2 albums much. But your right Napalm is banging. GKMC is the best, but Xzibit and Game's albums are definately banging. Both were out of nowhere and surprising to me as I wasnt particularly hyped for either
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: King Of The Greater Los Angeles Area on December 17, 2012, 09:49:42 AM
not a bad year for the west relatively, kendrick is the only one who got mainstream attention though. that lil half dead album is bangin too
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Sccit on December 17, 2012, 11:41:24 AM
Documentary is overrated. Had some classics but it had 50 Cent's work all over it.

I always felt Doctor's Advocate was the more complete album top to bottom and a true glimpse at who Game is as an emcee. For people saying his lyrics are subpar, I simply disagree. He has moments where he sounds like he can rap toe to toe with anyone, but then will come with uninspired lyrics time and time again (but if you delve deep, most rappers do).

Game is a true fan of hip hop, he spoke on it recently with DJ Skee stating that his career can end at any moment, and he's a rap fan before anything. Therefore, he wants to have the opportunity to do records with all his favorites while he still has the chance. I don't see anything wrong with that, especially since most of the guests are suited very well on the tracks they're placed on Jesus Piece.

He releases more music than almost any rapper in the game, he constantly adapts to changes in hip hop, always drops relatively big numbers when his album drops, and is well respected by almost every major emcee in hip hop. He's been outselling every Westcoast rapper consistently since the documentary dropped - why is this forum so quick to shit on him time and time again? He's put on for Cali more than any artist since Pac died. The only ones that can claim the same are Snoop and Ice Cube. He got dropped from G Unit less than a year after being introduced to the mainstream, yet he managed to stay wayyy more relevant than any other G-Unit counterpart. Nobody sees this though...

Case and point, Jesus Piece is right up there with Good Kid Mad City for Best Album of 2012 on the West.


take it u haven't heard xzibit's new one?

I heard X's. i wasnt hyped for it as I felt X had fallen off through the last decade didnt like his last 2 albums much. But your right Napalm is banging. GKMC is the best, but Xzibit and Game's albums are definately banging. Both were out of nowhere and surprising to me as I wasnt particularly hyped for either


Napalm>GKMV>Jesus Piece



then there's E40+Too Short's "Mob Music" and Black C's "Still Ruthless"....the west had some nice releases this year.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Okka on December 17, 2012, 05:27:14 PM
It's Games best album since D.A. to me, production and theme are cohesive, its good to see Game having direction after R.E.D.

Yeah, i gotta agree with you. I wasn't really expectin' much when i started listenin' to it, but i was suprised. Been bangin it all day.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: eNgIeS on December 17, 2012, 07:45:44 PM
Documentary is overrated. Had some classics but it had 50 Cent's work all over it.

I always felt Doctor's Advocate was the more complete album top to bottom and a true glimpse at who Game is as an emcee. For people saying his lyrics are subpar, I simply disagree. He has moments where he sounds like he can rap toe to toe with anyone, but then will come with uninspired lyrics time and time again (but if you delve deep, most rappers do).

Game is a true fan of hip hop, he spoke on it recently with DJ Skee stating that his career can end at any moment, and he's a rap fan before anything. Therefore, he wants to have the opportunity to do records with all his favorites while he still has the chance. I don't see anything wrong with that, especially since most of the guests are suited very well on the tracks they're placed on Jesus Piece.

He releases more music than almost any rapper in the game, he constantly adapts to changes in hip hop, always drops relatively big numbers when his album drops, and is well respected by almost every major emcee in hip hop. He's been outselling every Westcoast rapper consistently since the documentary dropped - why is this forum so quick to shit on him time and time again? He's put on for Cali more than any artist since Pac died. The only ones that can claim the same are Snoop and Ice Cube. He got dropped from G Unit less than a year after being introduced to the mainstream, yet he managed to stay wayyy more relevant than any other G-Unit counterpart. Nobody sees this though...

Case and point, Jesus Piece is right up there with Good Kid Mad City for Best Album of 2012 on the West.


take it u haven't heard xzibit's new one?

I heard X's. i wasnt hyped for it as I felt X had fallen off through the last decade didnt like his last 2 albums much. But your right Napalm is banging. GKMC is the best, but Xzibit and Game's albums are definately banging. Both were out of nowhere and surprising to me as I wasnt particularly hyped for either


Napalm>GKMV>Jesus Piece



then there's E40+Too Short's "Mob Music" and Black C's "Still Ruthless"....the west had some nice releases this year.

Still GKMC to me above all
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Remedy360 on December 17, 2012, 08:11:34 PM
It's Games best album since D.A. to me, production and theme are cohesive, its good to see Game having direction after R.E.D.

Yeah, i gotta agree with you. I wasn't really expectin' much when i started listenin' to it, but i was suprised. Been bangin it all day.

Really? IMO DA is clearly better and after a few listens I like LAX more (but I liked LAX a lot more than most people.) With that said though, cool/decent album overall which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for RED.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: DJ-AGE™ on December 18, 2012, 03:05:52 AM
I've heard enough to know he aint got the same fire he did when "Documentary" and "Doctors Advocate" came out.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: Okka on December 18, 2012, 06:25:34 AM
It's Games best album since D.A. to me, production and theme are cohesive, its good to see Game having direction after R.E.D.

Yeah, i gotta agree with you. I wasn't really expectin' much when i started listenin' to it, but i was suprised. Been bangin it all day.

Really? IMO DA is clearly better and after a few listens I like LAX more (but I liked LAX a lot more than most people.) With that said though, cool/decent album overall which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for RED.

Nah, i meant after "Doctor's Advocate". There's only a few songs on "LAX" and "RED" that i like.
Title: Re: Game is like the forgotten child of Dr.Dre
Post by: dubsmith_nz on December 18, 2012, 09:21:30 PM
It's Games best album since D.A. to me, production and theme are cohesive, its good to see Game having direction after R.E.D.

Yeah, i gotta agree with you. I wasn't really expectin' much when i started listenin' to it, but i was suprised. Been bangin it all day.

Really? IMO DA is clearly better and after a few listens I like LAX more (but I liked LAX a lot more than most people.) With that said though, cool/decent album overall which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for RED.

Nah, i meant after "Doctor's Advocate". There's only a few songs on "LAX" and "RED" that i like.

Yup what Okka said, best album since D.A.. For me it'd go Doc > D.A. >>>> JP >> L.A.X. >> R.E.D.