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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite on March 27, 2013, 10:24:20 AM
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http://www.amazon.com/Back-In-The-Day-Shakur/dp/0306812959/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364404373&sr=8-1&keywords=2pac+Back+In+The+Day
I'm writing this for Pac's real fans at the forum. I've read nearly every book and article written about 2pac. I have to say this book exposes a side of Pac you can't find anywhere else.
Most of the time when people become wealthy or famous, their new life can sweep them up and make it to where they have less in common with ordinary folk. This book tells Pac's life story before he was famous.
Legends like 2pac are not just created overnight. They are a bi-product of their environments and the way in which they were raised. For example, ever wonder why 2pac was so expressive in his music? This book takes you inside the living room of his Baltimore apartment, where his mom and him kept no secrets, where anyone whether family member or guest could speak their mind freely about any subject.
There's a very telling story in the book, where Pac's mom Afeni, casually gives Pac $10 dollars to go out on the street corner and buy weed for her, as if it is something she's done dozens of times in his life. The author (a friend of Pac's in Baltimore) then tells the story of Pac's interaction with the drug dealers in the nieghborhood, of their encouragement of his budding rap career, of Pac coming back home and joining his mom for a weed session, and subsequently teaching his new friend about their life in New York and the Black Panther Party.
It's loaded with stories like the aforementioned stories. Stories about Pac arranging candle-light vigils for homies in the hood who were killed by gun violence, of Pac nearly getting signed to a deal when he was only 15 years old. Of Pac battling other rappers in the hood, and so on.
This is definitely not for the casual Pac fan, but Pac's more serious fans will love this one.
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Read it many years ago as one of my first 2pac books. Its true, this is completely new image of 2pac, very interesting and just before his stardom.
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Since 2pac was only a fake gang member, Im not sure whether I hate him or not.
Hmmm... ???
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Since 2pac was only a fake gang member, Im not sure whether I hate him or not.
Hmmm... ???
2pac never claimed to be a gang member. But he certainly had a lot of exposure to gangs and was likely affiliated.
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Read it many years ago as one of my first 2pac books. Its true, this is completely new image of 2pac, very interesting and just before his stardom.
Dope.
Yeah, I don't remember hearing about it back when it was first released. Wish I had read this many years ago.
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Since 2pac was only a fake gang member, Im not sure whether I hate him or not.
Hmmm... ???
2pac never claimed to be a gang member. But he certainly had a lot of exposure to gangs and was likely affiliated.
He still shouted out the set constantly ("M.O.B., Big Suge in the low-low," "Fuck the rap game, nigga, this M.O.B.," "We claim Mob, M.O.B., if you be specific," "They could never take the soul of an M.O.B. soldier," "M.O.B. till I die, when we ride, niggas disappear," "Stick a needle if I don't live and die for M.O.B.," etc.). It's not to far from claiming.
I haven't read this book, but it's probably a nice glimpse, like what was touched on in Michael Eric Dyson's book (Holler If You Hear Me).
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m.o.b. = money over bitches
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Thanks, captain obvious
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Since 2pac was only a fake gang member, Im not sure whether I hate him or not.
Hmmm... ???
2pac never claimed to be a gang member. But he certainly had a lot of exposure to gangs and was likely affiliated.
He still shouted out the set constantly ("M.O.B., Big Suge in the low-low," "Fuck the rap game, nigga, this M.O.B.," "We claim Mob, M.O.B., if you be specific," "They could never take the soul of an M.O.B. soldier," "M.O.B. till I die, when we ride, niggas disappear," "Stick a needle if I don't live and die for M.O.B.," etc.). It's not to far from claiming.
I haven't read this book, but it's probably a nice glimpse, like what was touched on in Michael Eric Dyson's book (Holler If You Hear Me).
He also yells "M.O.B. Nigga" in the outro to a few songs (can't remember which, maybe Lil Homies). That's the source of my dope ass username.
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I haven't read this book, but it's probably a nice glimpse, like what was touched on in Michael Eric Dyson's book (Holler If You Hear Me).
I read Micheal Eric Dyson's book. It was also excellent. He definitely did Pac justice in describing the enormity of his legacy. But this book is much different. It's not an effort to glorify or celebrate Pac's life. This book is a very intimate and humble account of his everyday life in Baltimore. It's the closest thing you could get to 2pac actually keeping journal entries of his daily life.
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He also yells "M.O.B. Nigga" in the outro to a few songs (can't remember which, maybe Lil Homies). That's the source of my dope ass username.
Yeah... I think he did on Don't Fall Asleep and also on Let's Get It On.
I read Micheal Eric Dyson's book. It was also excellent. He definitely did Pac justice in describing the enormity of his legacy. But this book is much different. It's not an effort to glorify or celebrate Pac's life. This book is a very intimate and humble account of his everyday life in Baltimore. It's the closest thing you could get to 2pac actually keeping journal entries of his daily life.
Perhaps, but Holler If You Hear Me did touch on that based on the accounts of some people he grew up with, like when he chatted with Jada Pinkett, who talked about how poor Pac was, and how he only owned two sweaters or something, slept on a mattress on the floor and was always embarrassed about how he lived, being hesitant to let her inside his house... and it's not like Jada Pinkett wasn't poor herself.
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Thanks, captain obvious
you're welcome, captain anus
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MOB is not a set, i dont understand what him shoutin that has 2 do with him bangin?
good looks on postin the book, 'nite
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MOB is not a set, i dont understand what him shoutin that has 2 do with him bangin?
Mob Piru. They say M.O.B. and Money Over Bitches. Do you think he'd get an MOB pinky ring just like Suge's but have it rep something else while being on Death Row and around all these gang affiliates?
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why would Big Syke (a crip) be on a song called M.O.B. if it was about being a blood?
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MOB is not a set, i dont understand what him shoutin that has 2 do with him bangin?
Mob Piru. They say M.O.B. and Money Over Bitches. Do you think he'd get an MOB pinky ring just like Suge's but have it rep something else while being on Death Row and around all these gang affiliates?
Did you get that information off the internet? M.O.B. is not affiliated.
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No, I had confirmed it years ago with someone I know from NHP in Inglewood. And an old co-worker who lived in Compton for a number of years. But it is also on the internet too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQUrOZ1fus4
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why would Big Syke (a crip) be on a song called M.O.B. if it was about being a blood?
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why would Big Syke (a crip) be on a song called M.O.B. if it was about being a blood?
Why would Snoop and WC being on the remix of a song called One Blood?
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I knew some bloods, grew up in San Bernardino, a good blood city. (I also lived in Rialto too, a huge crip city.) Not one blood I knew ever used MOB until AFTER 2Pac used it. 2Pac made it cool to say MOB, not the other way around. Before 'Pac, people used Damu, Piru, Blood, Dogg (yeah Dogg was affiliated talk by Bloods), but never said MOB. After 1996, MOB was everywhere in red on the walls.
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why would Big Syke (a crip) be on a song called M.O.B. if it was about being a blood?
Why would Snoop and WC being on the remix of a song called One Blood?
i can't speak for WC but we all know Snoop is a fake banger and that shit came out in like 2005 or something....1996 was a totally different time where you couldn't be fake like you can be now.
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I knew some bloods, grew up in San Bernardino, a good blood city. (I also lived in Rialto too, a huge crip city.) Not one blood I knew ever used MOB until AFTER 2Pac used it. 2Pac made it cool to say MOB, not the other way around. Before 'Pac, people used Damu, Piru, Blood, Dogg (yeah Dogg was affiliated talk by Bloods), but never said MOB. After 1996, MOB was everywhere in red on the walls.
I can respect that and you may very well be right about when they started really popularizing "MOB" within that scene. But I never viewed it as being a popular term anyway, and maybe the Bloods in San Bernardino (or anywhere not immediately close to Compton) just didn't say MOB in the same manner (just like they likely won't be saying BHIP or any of those acronyms specific to certain hoods), which makes sense since it wasn't really a common Blood term. It's not like other Piru sets in Compton were running saying MOB either.
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Good story about him confronting Kid'n'Play at a Salt N Pepa show and challenging them to a battle back in the day. He kept talkin shit trying to get under their skin to provoke a battle but ultimately they just ignored him. Then Salt and Pepa gave him a shot to audition but some security guard kicked him out before he could begin. Finally they ran into Herby Lovebug, who was an asshole to them.
A few years later after 2pac made it, Herby, who forgot all about the incident approached Pac about workin together on something and Pac finally got his revenge. LOL.. called up his boy from back in the day and told him he got Herby back for dissing their crew back in the day.
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I knew some bloods, grew up in San Bernardino, a good blood city. (I also lived in Rialto too, a huge crip city.) Not one blood I knew ever used MOB until AFTER 2Pac used it. 2Pac made it cool to say MOB, not the other way around. Before 'Pac, people used Damu, Piru, Blood, Dogg (yeah Dogg was affiliated talk by Bloods), but never said MOB. After 1996, MOB was everywhere in red on the walls.
what is funny is people from the bay like E-40 & the click where already using the word M.O.B. before i heard any blood say it .
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' Fuck The Rap Game Nigga, This M.O.B. So Believe Me We Enemies '
this line comes from Against All Odds track. If you listened to it, he's dissing from Henchman to Diddy to everyone of them. Now, today, we all know Diddy was closed to crips people one of whom was Keffee D, shotcaller from southside crips. (his connection with Southside crips on the west came thru Zip, a known eastcoast crip & gangster who knew Diddy's father),
So Tupac was saying this line^^ to some of y'all, this would mean: " fuck the rap game nigga, this is money over bitches therefore we enemies" ??? that doesn't make sense at all.
Now let's see it like this?
"fuck this rap shit nigga, this is on the streets (MOB set, who Im rollin with now), so believe me, we enemies (since y'all rollin with southside crips)"
makes way more sense. Even more when you considering all the events which took place.
Also, just 2 little things I wanna add:
-to the dude saying why Syke was on M.O.B. (which could also mean money over bitches therefore Syke would be on that track): why Snoop & co so-proclamed crips never shout M O B if that was only meaning money over bitches ? Why Snoop, Kurupt or Daz or whoever crip didn't get a tattoo on their forearm spelling M O B in large letters just like their boss Suge Knight & weren't hanging with the MOB set goons just like Pac got that tatto & a ring just like Suge knight & the rest of his goons ?
-do y'all know about gangs ?
Tell me who the fuck are shouting in swahili langage ? bloods ? whoops, Tupac made references to that. too much coincidence. 'Shit Them Niggaz That Shot Me Is Still Terrified .... Screaming Fuck All Yall Niggaz In Swahili '
Oh did I mention To Live & Die In LA track which was somewhat his take of 'California Love part 2 whithout gay-ass Dre', an anthem to the whole Los Angeles city: on cali love, he & Dre are chouting out Cali places. On TL&DILA, Tupac chose to shout out MOB set & Suge goons....
so not no gangmember, but definetely affiliated, maybe too much to live more than 25
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I knew some bloods, grew up in San Bernardino, a good blood city. (I also lived in Rialto too, a huge crip city.) Not one blood I knew ever used MOB until AFTER 2Pac used it. 2Pac made it cool to say MOB, not the other way around. Before 'Pac, people used Damu, Piru, Blood, Dogg (yeah Dogg was affiliated talk by Bloods), but never said MOB. After 1996, MOB was everywhere in red on the walls.
what is funny is people from the bay like E-40 & the click where already using the word M.O.B. before i heard any blood say it .
Wouldn't surprise me. MOB could be that Bay area slang that 2Pac brought to the mainstream and LA bastardized it. Wouldn't be the first.
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"High til I die, LOC til they smoke me" - Pac on "High Til I Die"
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dis book mus be a hott commodity on da streetz cuz some niccaz jacked it when I had it at a public place. I was at the very end but I still wish I had it to reference later. May have to buy again. Don't those niccaz know they can get it from Amazon for like .01? They probably don't have a credit card dats why
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"High til I die, LOC til they smoke me" - Pac on "High Til I Die"
thanx to you for mentioning that reference along with others like 'I dont give a fuck if u blood or cuz' were ALL pre-deathrow ERA.
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dis book mus be a hott commodity on da streetz cuz some niccaz jacked it when I had it at a public place. I was at the very end but I still wish I had it to reference later. May have to buy again. Don't those niccaz know they can get it from Amazon for like .01? They probably don't have a credit card dats why
oh chit nicca dat muz be it ya dig....
and no i dont want to know him im good with just playing his music in the car sometimes.
your a fucking wigger bitch.
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dis book mus be a hott commodity on da streetz cuz some niccaz jacked it when I had it at a public place. I was at the very end but I still wish I had it to reference later. May have to buy again. Don't those niccaz know they can get it from Amazon for like .01? They probably don't have a credit card dats why
Can't you just stop embarrassing yourself like that?
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dis book mus be a hott commodity on da streetz cuz some niccaz jacked it when I had it at a public place. I was at the very end but I still wish I had it to reference later. May have to buy again. Don't those niccaz know they can get it from Amazon for like .01? They probably don't have a credit card dats why
Do you really think every black person is cool with you saying "nicca" just because KRS said it was ok? LOL
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Thanks for the suggestion. He certainly lived an interesting life and a lot of books about him straight trash.
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Do you really think every black person is cool with you saying "nicca" just because KRS said it was ok?
yes, KRS is the teacher 8)
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yall need 2 get off infinite's nuts.. he's a muslim whiteboy with a black kid who travels to africa and likes 2pac. cmon niccaz get over it.
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yall need 2 get off infinite's nuts.. he's a muslim whiteboy with a black kid who travels to africa and likes 2pac. cmon niccaz get over it.
c´mon. he also talks about how he knows about rap when he´s heard about 5 rappers .
you´re a loyal friend nik, ridin for the retard ,lol