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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: JML-G on April 06, 2013, 03:50:18 AM
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yep
that lil nigga is relevant, his new album is bangin, he made the current west coast sound, which made other potential stars Problem, Kid Ink & YG get recognition, and yall still hate on him 8)
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He's not bad especially when he raps over a certain type of beats (Mustard, League of Starz type) that really fit his flow but overall he's not top 3 lol he's not even top 100
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Tyga is TRASH.
If it wasen't for Cash Money - nobody will knew this bum. There's plenty better New West rappers shitting on this garbage.
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if KRS-One co-signs him it should say something.
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Tyga is TRASH.
If it wasen't for Cash Money - nobody will knew this bum. There's plenty better New West rappers shitting on this garbage.
this
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lol not that Tyga is top 3 of anything but do you know what DOA means?
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lol not that Tyga is top 3 of anything but do you know what DOA means?
Yeah thats the part of the thread that doesn't make sense.
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I like Tyga's music, but dude is nowhere near Top 3 DOA ATM (how can those two even co-exist?).
I'd reckon the top 3 spots are taken by Kendrick Lamar, Tyler The Creator and Lil B for now.
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I like Tyga's music, but dude is nowhere near Top 3 DOA ATM (how can those two even co-exist?).
I'd reckon the top 3 spots are taken by Kendrick Lamar, Tyler The Creator and Lil B for now.
Maybe hype-wise, yes - but when it comes to pure talent, I'll take Dom Kennedy over Tyler & Lil' B 8)
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top 3 dead or arrival
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Once again, since he doesn't sound like Death Row/Ruthless type artists, he gets hate. Definitely not top 3 DOA but top 5 currently. He transcends Cash Money, he hardly fucks with them.
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Once again, since he doesn't sound like Death Row/Ruthless type artists, he gets hate. Definitely not top 3 DOA but top 5 currently. He transcends Cash Money, he hardly fucks with them.
no the reason he gets hate is because HE SUCKS and can't write a good lyrical bar to save his life
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my bad for the uncorrect thread title but yall not dummies and get the point either way so.. 8)
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Once again, since he doesn't sound like Death Row/Ruthless type artists, he gets hate. Definitely not top 3 DOA but top 5 currently. He transcends Cash Money, he hardly fucks with them.
100% real talk
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Once again, since he doesn't sound like Death Row/Ruthless type artists, he gets hate. Definitely not top 3 DOA but top 5 currently. He transcends Cash Money, he hardly fucks with them.
no the reason he gets hate is because HE SUCKS and can't write a good lyrical bar to save his life
this.
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everyone in L.A.M.B is better than tyga
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Once again, since he doesn't sound like Death Row/Ruthless type artists, he gets hate. Definitely not top 3 DOA but top 5 currently. He transcends Cash Money, he hardly fucks with them.
LOL - since nobody mentioned Death Row or Ruthless in this thread, your opinion is pointless. He get's hate because he SUCKS and there's plenty of new rappers from the West, that are SHITTING on this BUM - that's it.
No need for another conspiracy theory involving y'all beloved 90's G-Funk/Death Row topics.
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nah.
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Top 3 ? Maybe not but dude still got a couple of good tracks
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Once again, since he doesn't sound like Death Row/Ruthless type artists, he gets hate. Definitely not top 3 DOA but top 5 currently. He transcends Cash Money, he hardly fucks with them.
LOL - since nobody mentioned Death Row or Ruthless in this thread, your opinion is pointless. He get's hate because he SUCKS and there's plenty of new rappers from the West, that are SHITTING on this BUM - that's it.
No need for another conspiracy theory involving y'all beloved 90's G-Funk/Death Row topics.
No conspiracy theory, I see how this forum works. Kendrick Lamar is the best thing the West has seen in a decade and he got mass amounts of hate on this forum. Why? Cause he's not super gangsta. I can pull up a post of mine from 2009 when I told the forum that Kendrick is the next big thing and that if more from the West took up his sound, we'd be back in the limelight. People thought I was crazy. I know for a fact a lot of y'all (mostly non-Cali residents) hate on Kendrick.
But I will tell you this - Cali loves Tyga. I see it everyday, he sells out shows, I hear tons knocking Tyga on the streets. Same with Kendrick. Who is SHITTING on Tyga? I'd like you to give me 3 serious rappers.
And the person who said the new West stole Tyga's sound - 100% truth. It's the reason why Problem has been around for 6 years, and even with a giant Snoop co-sign early on, he never caught on until right now. And even so, he's not even close to Tyga or Kendrick. Like I said, Tyga hardly fucks with Cash Money, he totally has his own image and sound and is rarely on their tracks. He doesn't need Wayne on his tracks to do big things, he's proven it.
Y'all loved Nipsey prior to TMC. Why? Cause TMC he took a step outside of the box and started making some non-super OG gangsta shit. The result? He gets mass amounts of hate on this forum. But I can tell you with a straight face, TMC is as good or better than any of his projects. If some of y'all had interests other than West Coast, maybe I'd take some of you non-Cali folks opinions seriously. But I'm willing to bet your taste is very closed off to the West.
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Once again, since he doesn't sound like Death Row/Ruthless type artists, he gets hate. Definitely not top 3 DOA but top 5 currently. He transcends Cash Money, he hardly fucks with them.
LOL - since nobody mentioned Death Row or Ruthless in this thread, your opinion is pointless. He get's hate because he SUCKS and there's plenty of new rappers from the West, that are SHITTING on this BUM - that's it.
No need for another conspiracy theory involving y'all beloved 90's G-Funk/Death Row topics.
No conspiracy theory, I see how this forum works. Kendrick Lamar is the best thing the West has seen in a decade and he got mass amounts of hate on this forum. Why? Cause he's not super gangsta. I can pull up a post of mine from 2009 when I told the forum that Kendrick is the next big thing and that if more from the West took up his sound, we'd be back in the limelight. People thought I was crazy. I know for a fact a lot of y'all (mostly non-Cali residents) hate on Kendrick.
But I will tell you this - Cali loves Tyga. I see it everyday, he sells out shows, I hear tons knocking Tyga on the streets. Same with Kendrick. Who is SHITTING on Tyga? I'd like you to give me 3 serious rappers.
And the person who said the new West stole Tyga's sound - 100% truth. It's the reason why Problem has been around for 6 years, and even with a giant Snoop co-sign early on, he never caught on until right now. And even so, he's not even close to Tyga or Kendrick. Like I said, Tyga hardly fucks with Cash Money, he totally has his own image and sound and is rarely on their tracks. He doesn't need Wayne on his tracks to do big things, he's proven it.
Y'all loved Nipsey prior to TMC. Why? Cause TMC he took a step outside of the box and started making some non-super OG gangsta shit. The result? He gets mass amounts of hate on this forum. But I can tell you with a straight face, TMC is as good or better than any of his projects. If some of y'all had interests other than West Coast, maybe I'd take some of you non-Cali folks opinions seriously. But I'm willing to bet your taste is very closed off to the West.
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i never understood how, just because ppl didn't like this or that rapper, or found it annoying, they always feel the need to shit on him or insult him when they don't know him personally. just like when tim dog died ppl insulted him.
anyway I never really listened to Tyga, I liked Rack City but there wasn't much rappin' on the song, and I liked the Motto but mostly for the beat. I guess I should give dude a chance, but from what I heard Problem is better than him as an MC though, flows better and clever wordplay. but I see where you're getting at Enigma.
based on what I heard, I'd say I prefer Droop-E, IamSu, Problem, Tyler, Kendrick & the whole TDE, Dom Kennedy, Polyester, Casey Veggies and a few others over Tyga.
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No conspiracy theory, I see how this forum works. Kendrick Lamar is the best thing the West has seen in a decade and he got mass amounts of hate on this forum. Why? Cause he's not super gangsta. I can pull up a post of mine from 2009 when I told the forum that Kendrick is the next big thing and that if more from the West took up his sound, we'd be back in the limelight. People thought I was crazy. I know for a fact a lot of y'all (mostly non-Cali residents) hate on Kendrick.
But I will tell you this - Cali loves Tyga. I see it everyday, he sells out shows, I hear tons knocking Tyga on the streets. Same with Kendrick. Who is SHITTING on Tyga? I'd like you to give me 3 serious rappers.
And the person who said the new West stole Tyga's sound - 100% truth. It's the reason why Problem has been around for 6 years, and even with a giant Snoop co-sign early on, he never caught on until right now. And even so, he's not even close to Tyga or Kendrick. Like I said, Tyga hardly fucks with Cash Money, he totally has his own image and sound and is rarely on their tracks. He doesn't need Wayne on his tracks to do big things, he's proven it.
Y'all loved Nipsey prior to TMC. Why? Cause TMC he took a step outside of the box and started making some non-super OG gangsta shit. The result? He gets mass amounts of hate on this forum. But I can tell you with a straight face, TMC is as good or better than any of his projects. If some of y'all had interests other than West Coast, maybe I'd take some of you non-Cali folks opinions seriously. But I'm willing to bet your taste is very closed off to the West.
Typical response from a US citizen, who thinks only he knows what's going on the West Coast because he lives there.
I'm willing to bet your too ignorant with this "Cali citizen" bullshit to actually admit, that a person from Europe can have the same amount of knowledge about the West, that y'all have or even more. I listen to all kinds of artists on and off the West Coast and I prolly check more New West rappers, that most dudes here who are bitching about it.
I like Big K.R.I.T., Curren$y, Freddie Gibbs, A$AP Rocky and they are 10x better than this bum Tyga. Yeah, he got a couple nice tracks here and there - other than that, he sucks.
Being "Gangsta" or doing "G-Funk" ain't got shit to do with it, but that's the only point your ignorant folks can make it that case, even tho nobody never mentioned neither of these in this thread. Let me remind you, that Tyga was actually the one, who pretend to be some super street-orientated thug from Compton until he confessed himself he lived in suburbs later on.
Who gives a fuck is Wayne's featured on his records or not? Point blank is, Cash Money backs him 100%, so that means he's got way more publicity than other New West rappers, that are SHITTING on him lyrically, but not promo-wise. Want to know 3 serious rappers from the West that are better than Tyga?
Dom Kennedy, Hopsin, Tyler The Creator. They can run circles around Tyga lyrically, but they don't have the big budget label behind them to benefit from it. There's plenty New West rappers Tyga can't fuck with on a skill level.
LOL @ people hating on Kendrick. Most of the forum backs him up 100% along with the whole TDE crew. Back in 2009 nobody knew he will blow up they way he did, because there were other New West cats standing in the first place to the spotlight. Bishop was still with the Aftermath, Glasses was coming, Jay Rock and Nipsey were still signed to the majors, so it's obviously people were picking some of these cats to blow up in the first place - not Kendrick, who wasen't even established at that time.
Yes he did created a huge buzz on his own with "Section.80" but it was signed with Dre & Aftermath, who took his buzz to another level and his publicity went thru the roof with that one. You didn't expected Kendrick having apperances on Jimmy Kimmel show after "Section.80" dropped, would you?
Fact is, is a giant like Interscope and Aftermath is backing you up, you will benefit from it no matter what. In Kendrick's case, we should thank God Dre wasen't so stupid, like he was with Bishop, sitting on him all those years, making him record tons of songs and not doing nothing with it.
Now as far as Nipsey goes. I personally like some songs on "TMC", although I still think it was a rushed project and it wasen't as good as "The Marathon". But if he can make bangers like "Run A Lap" or "Forever On Some Fly Shit" or "I Need That" - I'm all in. Nipsey get's shitted on mostly because he's taking way too long to drop an actual album, not because he's trying new things, that obviously don't work for everybody and they def ain't working for him.
The MAIN problem with this forum is people from Cali can't stand for some reason, that someone can still listen to a classic West Coast record and have fun with it, like he did back in the 90's. I was on various forums and only duded on Dubcc have a problem with it. East Coast fans ain't mad someone can listen to ASAP Rocky and Rakim at the same time and enjoy themself. People in the South don't have problem listening to T.I.'s new record and Scarface at the same time and enjoy themself. But for some reason, being a West Coast fan is wrong if you still listen to a G-Funk record in 2013.
That's just show you how ignorant some dude's over here really are... instead of being proud of this sound that gave your Coast a life and a worldwide recognition and love - you want to bash it and cut ties from it. Why can't y'all listen to a new Shade Sheist G-Funk record and then switch up to New West and enjoy it is just beyond me.
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Does this New West shit even exist anymore? I thought it was dead.
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i never understood how, just because ppl didn't like this or that rapper, or found it annoying, they always feel the need to shit on him or insult him when they don't know him personally. just like when tim dog died ppl insulted him.
anyway I never really listened to Tyga, I liked Rack City but there wasn't much rappin' on the song, and I liked the Motto but mostly for the beat. I guess I should give dude a chance, but from what I heard Problem is better than him as an MC though, flows better and clever wordplay. but I see where you're getting at Enigma.
based on what I heard, I'd say I prefer Droop-E, IamSu, Problem, Tyler, Kendrick & the whole TDE, Dom Kennedy, Polyester, Casey Veggies and a few others over Tyga.
locksmith, raided, lynch, sav-sicc, bleezo, g-macc, t-nutty, cos, c-dubb, mac mall, wc, a-wax, mac lucci, c-lim, ap9, xzibit, king-t all better rappers puttin out better shit than tyga right now.....i can keep going on and on, too. if that commercial generic sound is ur taste, so be it. but dont knock others who prefer the real shit.
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y'all want some dope new west coast shit go check out gq's death threats & love notes. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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i looked for a link didn't find one, i'm checking big remo right now though, shit's legit 8)
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i looked for a link didn't find one, i'm checking big remo right now though, shit's legit 8)
google that gq joint you can stream it.
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locksmith, raided, lynch, sav-sicc, bleezo, g-macc, t-nutty, cos, c-dubb, mac mall, wc, a-wax, mac lucci, c-lim, ap9, xzibit, king-t all better rappers puttin out better shit than tyga right now.....i can keep going on and on, too. if that commercial generic sound is ur taste, so be it. but dont knock others who prefer the real shit.
He wanted to hear New West rappers, so you can add Toni Monroe, Ill Camile, Horse Shoe G.A.N.G., Mann, Treali Duce, West Coast Trade School, One-2, Young Giantz, Fashawn, Roccett, Problem, Topic, Odd Future, K-Capital & Hookstah, Yung Blu and tons of other "New" West Coast rappers to that "I'm better than Tyga" list.
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LOL @ top 3 DOA. I will say that I don't think he's as bad as he's made out to be though.
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locksmith, raided, lynch, sav-sicc, bleezo, g-macc, t-nutty, cos, c-dubb, mac mall, wc, a-wax, mac lucci, c-lim, ap9, xzibit, king-t all better rappers puttin out better shit than tyga right now.....i can keep going on and on, too. if that commercial generic sound is ur taste, so be it. but dont knock others who prefer the real shit.
He wanted to hear New West rappers, so you can add Toni Monroe, Ill Camile, Horse Shoe G.A.N.G., Mann, Treali Duce, West Coast Trade School, One-2, Young Giantz, Fashawn, Roccett, Problem, Topic, Odd Future, K-Capital & Hookstah, Yung Blu and tons of other "New" West Coast rappers to that "I'm better than Tyga" list.
locksmith, sav-sicc, bleezo, mac lucci, a-wax, c-dubb can all be considered new west... but he said top 3 dead or alive on the west. there are TONS better than tyga. new and old
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Falsified Information but a good thread finally
1st off, nobody stole Tyga's sound, he never really had his own sound. Recent People who have had a bigger impact on that Cali/West Coast sound are DJ Khalil, Tha Bizness, Digi-Phonix, Tyler, Hop, Will.I.Am, EP, and others who havent had the same recognition who have a banger or two to their name.
2nd. Nobody is hating on him becuz he aint on that shit. Thats a fantasy and a cling-on excuse to stand on. Nipsey's last few efforts have been extremely underwhelming PRODUCTION wise, not becuz he didnt make a more Raw Street album. In fact his content actually wasnt bad at all, he was just trying to sound like something he isnt
3rd. Tyga's just straight up corny. Yeah his album cuts are "deeper" than most ppl will notice but at the end of tha day that doesnt mean we have to care just becuz he has another horror story to tell. He's wack, end of story
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OH MY GOD! how could I forget about Tha Invasion and Terrace Martin?
Tha Invasion has had more influence on that Cali/West Coast sound than anybody in tha past couple years.
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Thread can't be serious right?
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1500 or Nothin?
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LMAO - you're listing A-Wax, someone who's been around for 12 years as New West? Most of what you listed is hot garbage, no disrespect. Dom Kennedy is hot, but boring at times. Problem has clever word play, but no complexity with his flow. Tyler has great shock value, but is his talent up there with Tyga? Not sure man. I guess it's all about opinion.
Mietek, nice to see you knock Krit, Gibbs, and Curren$y. Mann? One-Two? Really? Not agreeing with this dude. Roccett is he even still putting shit out? I loved Roccett but what happened to him?
AP9? Mac Mall? These are basic rappers duke. If Tyga wasn't on the radio we'd be getting different reactions from this forum. Not one of these rappers can make a slapper like Lap Dance, Rack City, or Make it Nasty. And that's a promise.
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Tyler's shit aint really shock value tho, i dont get wats so shocking. He's just brutally honest
Tyler >>> Tyga
stop drinkin that Whiskey
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AP9? Mac Mall? These are basic rappers duke. If Tyga wasn't on the radio we'd be getting different reactions from this forum. Not one of these rappers can make a slapper like Lap Dance, Rack City, or Make it Nasty. And that's a promise.
Mac Mall has way more classic under his belts than Tyga, that's for sure. Maybe he doesn't have the ability to make club bangers like Rack City, but that's not what being an artist comes down to, is it ?
Again Rack City is dope mostly because of the beat, the rapping isn't too lenghty and isn't anything special, while a dude like Mac Mall has a dope flow, and dope content, not to mention the production he has rapped over.
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Crooked I destroyed that Rack city beat 100x harder than tyga could
and Mac Mall is a fucking LEGEND...tyga ain't. period.
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LMAO - you're listing A-Wax, someone who's been around for 12 years as New West? Most of what you listed is hot garbage, no disrespect. Dom Kennedy is hot, but boring at times. Problem has clever word play, but no complexity with his flow. Tyler has great shock value, but is his talent up there with Tyga? Not sure man. I guess it's all about opinion.
Mietek, nice to see you knock Krit, Gibbs, and Curren$y. Mann? One-Two? Really? Not agreeing with this dude. Roccett is he even still putting shit out? I loved Roccett but what happened to him?
AP9? Mac Mall? These are basic rappers duke. If Tyga wasn't on the radio we'd be getting different reactions from this forum. Not one of these rappers can make a slapper like Lap Dance, Rack City, or Make it Nasty. And that's a promise.
Like I said, you wanted a "New West" rappers and I gave it to you. Lyrics-wise they all shitting on Tyga. Even the females - I'll take Ill Camile and Toni Monroe everyday over this bum. And LOL @ Dom being boring - he's probably the best "New West" rapper this Coast have @ the moment aside from Kendrick that is. Oh, and I'll take Mann's "Buzzin" over any "slapper" this trash Tyga ever made. He has a few nice track here and there, mostly due to the beats - that's it.
I don't see nothing special in this bum, nor that great "talent" your claiming he possess. Lyrically, he can't fuck with most of New West rappers and dudes like Hopsin can run circles around him, when it comes to pure mic skills. If it wasen't for Cash Money and all the promo he's getting being affiliated with them - nobody outside die hard West Coast fans will never knew this bum exists.
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AP9? Mac Mall? These are basic rappers duke. If Tyga wasn't on the radio we'd be getting different reactions from this forum. Not one of these rappers can make a slapper like Lap Dance, Rack City, or Make it Nasty. And that's a promise.
lmao...ur starting to lose credibility with me, brodie. mac mall has classic albums which tyga will NEVER see. come on, now.
also, anyone who came out post-2000 is new west to me.
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AP9? Mac Mall? These are basic rappers duke. If Tyga wasn't on the radio we'd be getting different reactions from this forum. Not one of these rappers can make a slapper like Lap Dance, Rack City, or Make it Nasty. And that's a promise.
Mac Mall has way more classic under his belts than Tyga, that's for sure. Maybe he doesn't have the ability to make club bangers like Rack City, but that's not what being an artist comes down to, is it ?
Again Rack City is dope mostly because of the beat, the rapping isn't too lenghty and isn't anything special, while a dude like Mac Mall has a dope flow, and dope content, not to mention the production he has rapped over.
really, tho...i've known this enigma dude for quite some time and never really realized his lack of taste/knowledge to this extent. in fact, i always presumed he was a hip-hop head...this shit is borderline troll status.
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I said currently. Mac Mall has fallen off the past 10 years this is a fact. Ill be honest I haven't heard much since Immaculate, but what I've heard since hasn't blown me away. It's a difference in opinion, I strongly feel that the second people hit radio, people stop respecting rappers on this forum. I'm one of the most open minded hip hop heads, truly. I just don't like blind hate. I'm not saying Tyga is the hottest or even amazing, but I recognize his skill and talent. To say he's a bum or garbage, is just ignorant. No troll status, just stating opinions.
I can say Snoop Dogg has several classics under his belt, does that mean he's better than Kendrick at the moment? Hell no.
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I said currently. Mac Mall has fallen off the past 10 years this is a fact. Ill be honest I haven't heard much since Immaculate, but what I've heard since hasn't blown me away. It's a difference in opinion, I strongly feel that the second people hit radio, people stop respecting rappers on this forum. I'm one of the most open minded hip hop heads, truly. I just don't like blind hate. I'm not saying Tyga is the hottest or even amazing, but I recognize his skill and talent. To say he's a bum or garbage, is just ignorant. No troll status, just stating opinions.
I can say Snoop Dogg has several classics under his belt, does that mean he's better than Kendrick at the moment? Hell no.
kendrick is on the radio and he's leagues ahead of tyga.....point is, tyga makes generic music which lacks true substance, and he doesn't belong on a GOAT or ANY top 10 rapper list. i'm not saying he's a bum or garbage, but he's an average rapper who makes radio friendly music targeted to high school audiences, male and female. to say his name in the same sentence as mac mall is a mockery...and like u admitted, u haven't heard any recent mall, but his latest album is of much more substance than anything tyga's ever done. even "immaculate" (which u said was the last mac mall album u heard) shits on anything tyga has ever done.
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the last Mac Mall record had some dope cuts.
like this one:
(https://www.youtube.com/v/D0xg5mW6e8s)
(could only find this drum cover version on YT, but it is essentially the same track with live drums on top)