West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite on June 13, 2013, 12:39:58 PM
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I was under the assumption he just started writing for NWA albums on Efil4zaggin? Was he writing for them on St8 out of Compton? ANyone have the links to the credits. Someone jacked all my cd cases (thinking the cd's were inside they actually stole my whole tower) back in the year 2001 and a lot of the albums I only have a disc for but no liner notes.
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Now I already know he was a feature on Parental Discretion Iz Advised, first verse.
But he is given credit as a writer for Something Like That and Compton's N the House. Since MC Ren and DOC are the only credited writers, I am assuming he wrote for Dre.
Also he is credit in Something 2 Dance 2, but that had hardly any lyrics so I can't imagine he wrote all of Dre's 2 lines, but you never know.
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Okay, but would you say he was a "Featured" writer or "one of the Main writers" for St8 out of Compton.. in the way that he was for Efil4zaggin
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Okay, but would you say he was a "Featured" writer or "one of the Main writers" for St8 out of Compton.. in the way that he was for Efil4zaggin
Featured. Two songs for Dre, one song for himself. I think the difference is Cube wrote a lot for Dre and Eazy too, were as in Efil4zaggin, someone had to pick up the Cube slack. That's my assumption as to why DOC wrote more in the second album.
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Okay, but would you say he was a "Featured" writer or "one of the Main writers" for St8 out of Compton.. in the way that he was for Efil4zaggin
he was on zaggin4efil heavy compared to straight outta compton. I wouldn't say he was one of the main writers cause cube was there helpin' eazy write and he also wrote for dre. when cube left d.o.c took on that role cause of his accident.
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This is a great question . props on that . DOC was fully engulfed in NWA stuff at this point .The NWA and the Posse album had DOC 's name on it prevalently .. No question that DOC did MAJOR behind the scenes stuff for Straight Outta Compton .Eazy's album was released in close proximity to this , and he was ALL over that . Lay Law deserves more credit also . Dre once said it all started due to him having the funds .
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This is a great question . props on that . DOC was fully engulfed in NWA stuff at this point .The NWA and the Posse album had DOC 's name on it prevalently .. No question that DOC did MAJOR behind the scenes stuff for Straight Outta Compton .Eazy's album was released in close proximity to this , and he was ALL over that . Lay Law deserves more credit also . Dre once said it all started due to him having the funds .
doc only wrote 'we want eazy' but on eazy duz it cube, eazy, and ren worked on that album together.
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dunno but Myka 9 wrote 2 joints for NWA and the Posse
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Okay, but would you say he was a "Featured" writer or "one of the Main writers" for St8 out of Compton.. in the way that he was for Efil4zaggin
he was on zaggin4efil heavy compared to straight outta compton. I wouldn't say he was one of the main writers cause cube was there helpin' eazy write and he also wrote for dre. when cube left d.o.c took on that role cause of his accident.
Word.. that's probably how I would describe it.
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This is a great question . props on that . DOC was fully engulfed in NWA stuff at this point .The NWA and the Posse album had DOC 's name on it prevalently .. No question that DOC did MAJOR behind the scenes stuff for Straight Outta Compton .Eazy's album was released in close proximity to this , and he was ALL over that . Lay Law deserves more credit also . Dre once said it all started due to him having the funds .
I don't know if he was a MAJOR writer for Straight Outta Compton. Who knows what he may have been "ghostwriting". But I think like MDogg said he only officially wrote on 2-3 tracks.
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This is a great question . props on that . DOC was fully engulfed in NWA stuff at this point .The NWA and the Posse album had DOC 's name on it prevalently .. No question that DOC did MAJOR behind the scenes stuff for Straight Outta Compton .Eazy's album was released in close proximity to this , and he was ALL over that . Lay Law deserves more credit also . Dre once said it all started due to him having the funds .
I'd always heard that too. He was the type of dude people would run their lines past before they hit the booth and he would help clean things up. So even if he didn't write everything or get a credit, he was a major influence. Almost a lyric producer if you will. DOC is the most underrated west coast (by way of texas) artist in my opinion.
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Okay, but would you say he was a "Featured" writer or "one of the Main writers" for St8 out of Compton.. in the way that he was for Efil4zaggin
Featured. Two songs for Dre, one song for himself. I think the difference is Cube wrote a lot for Dre and Eazy too, were as in Efil4zaggin, someone had to pick up the Cube slack. That's my assumption as to why DOC wrote more in the second album.
Plus, most of straight outta Compton was written and recorded probably before dre even met the doc. Ren joined the group late, so notice how doc only has writing credit on the songs recorded after the singles came out like boys n the hood, f the police, dope man, etc
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This is a great question . props on that . DOC was fully engulfed in NWA stuff at this point .The NWA and the Posse album had DOC 's name on it prevalently .. No question that DOC did MAJOR behind the scenes stuff for Straight Outta Compton .Eazy's album was released in close proximity to this , and he was ALL over that . Lay Law deserves more credit also . Dre once said it all started due to him having the funds .
The nwA and the posse album was just a collection of macola/ruthless records singles that wasn't even considered an Nwa album by Nwa. I am not convinced doc had early relations with Nwa pre straight outta Compton recordings. If anything, I bet that album exposed Nwa to doc's potential
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N.W.A. and the POSSE was released before Straight Outta Compton. The D.O.C. was a member of "THE FILA FRESH CREW" he went by the name DOC-T....
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N.W.A. and the POSSE was released before Straight Outta Compton. The D.O.C. was a member of "THE FILA FRESH CREW" he went by the name DOC-T....
yeah they had a few tracks on the posse album that were first released on their own album
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Plus, most of straight outta Compton was written and recorded probably before dre even met the doc. Ren joined the group late, so notice how doc only has writing credit on the songs recorded after the singles came out like boys n the hood, f the police, dope man, etc
Yeah.. that's what I remember reading. That Dre didn't really know Doc until after Straight Out of Compton. Now it sounds like he was certainly around, but like you pointed out, it was after the key joints had already been created.
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DOC talked about this in his dubcnn interview: http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/thedoc08-part1/
Dubcnn: Listening to those old NWA albums, how come you weren’t more involved in those albums, as far as being on the mic? Especially on Straight Outta Compton.
Well, I’m not from Compton; I’m from Dallas. So me getting on a record called Straight Outta Compton didn’t fit. That record was about them. I wasn’t really in NWA, I was just there to help them do what they were doing. It was just path to get to me doing what I wanted to do. It was a learning thing. It makes me feel good to have helped so many cats over the years find their voices. I can remember coming to the studio and rapping, and Cube would go home and have to re-write his shit. We did that a lot! He’d come and rap his shit, and I say, “I got to do my shit over!” I’d come rap my shit and he’d be like, “I got to go do my shit over!”
Also talks about meeting Dre
Dubcnn: I know you’ve spoke on it many times before, but can you sum up how you and Dre met, and formed that bond that made you all so close.
We had a mutual friend in Dallas, before I knew these guys. Dre came to visit the guy in Texas, and he heard me rapping. He was very impressed with my skills. When I saw his production skills, I was very impressed with that as well. So, I followed him back to the west coast; words and music go together. As a matter of fact, Mel Man, one of Dre’s producers, told me once that he asked Dre who was, out of all the artists he’s ever recorded with who rapped his beats the hardest. And Mel-Man told me that he told him it was me, and I believe that. I tore a beat up, nigga, back in the day!
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DOC is the shit man. As for NWA and the Posse, that was never suppose to be an album. It was just a collection of tracks from NWA (at the time, Eazy, Cube, Dre and Arabian Prince), Eazy E and Ron-De-Vu (the Mexican dude with the 40 ounce Bud on the cover) and DOC and his Fila Fresh Crew. Hell, I'm surprised they didn't use Ice Cube and CIA, as Dre produced their tracks and all three of them were on the cover of the album as well (the dudes with the clocks). The "album" was thrown together as a bunch of Dr. Dre produced tracks, and re-released as NWA and the Posse in 1987, and re-released in 1989 after NWA became popular. Almost every track was originally on an EP or was a B-Side to a single, except Panic Zone and Boyz in the Hood which were singles. (Eazy E and Ron-De-Vu's tracks were B-Side to Boyz in the Hood, all NWA tracks were B-Side to Panic Zone, all Fila Fresh Crew were an EP) With all that said, I'm still surprised that CIA's stuff wasn't in there, especially when Eazy gave them a shout out in 8-Ball.