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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: jman91331 on October 13, 2013, 01:32:32 AM
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He's officially signed to Cash Money. http://www.stunnalife.com/2013/10/news-birdman-signs-the-game-to-ymcmb/
Thoughts?
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Not surprised, its a good move imo.
For all cash moneys faults they make hits, game is probably thinking he is going to do wayne/drake numbers but I'm not so sure.
He will get better promotion than he did at geffen.
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Tyga came to How The West Was Won and presented Game with a CM chain.
The boos in my section were loud as fuck lol
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should of signed to tde
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LOL@ any established rapper(s) signin' to cash money when they can go independent and build their own.
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as long as Wayne, Birdman, and especially Tyga's wack ass don't flood his album it might not be the worst thing but I don't have very high hopes for this move... this shit just seems desperate on Game's part for a last minute shot at mainstream relevance
dude needs to just go indie with Stat Quo, what happened with that?
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Not the worst decision he's ever made.
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Really good move for him, in with a group of people who should spur him on next album should be nice.
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Should of went indy, become your own boss not fall under these other cats...
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Should of went indy, become your own boss not fall under these other cats...
Game doesn't seem to do a great job at thinking for himself.
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He's officially signed to Cash Money. http://www.stunnalife.com/2013/10/news-birdman-signs-the-game-to-ymcmb/
Thoughts?
He's done. His last few albums have been Lil' Wayne, and all the beats have changed since his first 3 albums. His OKE mix tape was trash, he's lost all his training from Dre and his album sales show he's fading away. I laughed when I read that post because I knew it was coming.
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He's officially signed to Cash Money. http://www.stunnalife.com/2013/10/news-birdman-signs-the-game-to-ymcmb/
Thoughts?
He's done. His last few albums have been Lil' Wayne, and all the beats have changed since his first 3 albums. His OKE mix tape was trash, he's lost all his training from Dre and his album sales show he's fading away. I laughed when I read that post because I knew it was coming.
His last album was actually pretty good. He may be an idiot but he's not incapable of making good music.
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This would've meant something if it was still 2008 and Cash Money was still relevant.
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we can expect many more songs with "red", "five", or "blood" in the title that's for sure
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He's officially signed to Cash Money. http://www.stunnalife.com/2013/10/news-birdman-signs-the-game-to-ymcmb/
Thoughts?
He's done. His last few albums have been Lil' Wayne, and all the beats have changed since his first 3 albums. His OKE mix tape was trash, he's lost all his training from Dre and his album sales show he's fading away. I laughed when I read that post because I knew it was coming.
His last album was actually pretty good. He may be an idiot but he's not incapable of making good music.
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we can expect many more songs with "red", "five", or "blood" in the title that's for sure
Fo sho, the partial tracklist for his next album (R5B) already leaked:
Blood Five, Red
Red, Five Blood
Five Red, Blood
Blood. Red. Five
Five Blood, Red
Red Blood, Five
Looks like Game ready to drop some heat...
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"Blood Red: Five Star"
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never liked the game. when i first got on dubcc everyone was on his dick hard, funny how he just kinda vanished
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This would've meant something if it was still 2008 and Cash Money was still relevant.
You must be living under a rock. There is no rap label bigger than Cash Money currently.
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Should of went indy, become your own boss not fall under these other cats...
Game doesn't seem to do a great job at thinking for himself.
LOL on point.
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This would've meant something if it was still 2008 and Cash Money was still relevant.
You must be living under a rock. There is no rap label bigger than Cash Money currently.
I think you're mistaking Cash Money with Young Money. Young Money is relevant with the likes of Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, Drake and Tyga. Cash Money ain't shit anymore.
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mack 10 move.....
every1 in the world is signed to cash money, tho
did yall know paris hilton, christina milian, limp bizkit, glasses malone, ace hood, cool and dre plus a bunch of no-names who sell nothing are signed to them
even young money has a buncha no-names
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A lot of nonsense going on in here. Nobody knows the specifics of this deal. Could be a move to have his own label with Stat under CM similar to how Young Money is. As much as people hate to admit it, Cash Money is still very much relevant. The way I see it, in house production from Cool and Dre, and loud mouth DJ Khaled promoting the hell out of his music in the South sounds like a good plan to me. I think they will do much more for him promotion wise than what Interscope/Geffen has done for him lately. They dropped the ball with Jesus Piece big time. Although, it would have been better to see him go independent, I think he knows that he still needs the strength of a major to move decent units. Aftermath just seems so fucked up as of late. Wish Dre would just remove himself from the label if he's not going to give it 100% to develop new artists or create decent beats. Seems like he's more interested in the business side of things instead of the art.
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I can't imagine a world where this will result in any sort of improvement in terms of quality.
Maybe he'll find himself a smash hit that Dubcc will hate anyway with Wayne & Drake on it, but the quality of music will go down if he builds his album around the Young Money sound. Even worse if he does what he always does & mimic's Drake & Wayne's flows on songs. Then you'll hear the increase in lame production; getting away from the West Coast sound he can strive on.
If he completely avoids meshing with their sound...then really nothing has changed & we're just going to get the same mediocre Game we've had since "Doctor's Advocate". But instead of him getting emotional about Dre & name dropping 50 Cent every couple of songs, he'll just rep Young Money & reference to Weezy & Drizzy every couple of songs lol.
So there's like a 2% chance this move makes any of a difference for Game's career.
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I can't imagine a world where this will result in any sort of improvement in terms of quality.
Maybe he'll find himself a smash hit that Dubcc will hate anyway with Wayne & Drake on it, but the quality of music will go down if he builds his album around the Young Money sound. Even worse if he does what he always does & mimic's Drake & Wayne's flows on songs. Then you'll hear the increase in lame production; getting away from the West Coast sound he can strive on.
This is what I'm worried about but I honestly don't see that happening. I think Cool and Dre know exactly what will work for him. I think Game can do well on East Coast beats but he just doesn't sound right on a heavily influenced South beat.
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the game will rap more like hes from louisiana and have gay ass southern sounding trap beats all over his shit now
how can anyone not see this coming or like it if they do see it
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mack 10 move.....
Yup, and we see what good that did him.
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Like or dislike the move, all opinion but im sure he took what made the most sense for him business wise.
But here we go again with online internet reality.
When DA came out you people complained and many of you called it wack, same thing with LAX - shit, probably even more with LAX. But now you say that you want him to
have westcoast sounding production which DA was heavy on or go back to LAX, but you guys still complained ALOT when they came out. The bottom line with internet geeks is that you guys just hate popularity & success, thats it. You just use different reasons to justify the shit.
You can up the DA thread here & see what people were saying. The same people i see saying shit here, were hating on Game &/or DA & LAX when they came out.
Another thing, nobody wants to hear westcoast production. Thats the truth. This is the same forum still stuck in the mid 90's & who seems to think 2pac is the greatest rapper & want to go back to G-Funk sound. There is no distinctive westcoast sound right now & there hasnt been for over 10 years. Also, artists have to eat. Thats their job & living. You want Game, Kendrick, Dre, Snoop or whoever to do music that please Dubcnn? Good luck with that. The irony is that you guys then say they're irrelevant now (Game, Snoop etc maybe not Kendrick), so how more irrelevant would they be if they stuck to "please Dubcnn members"-music or westcoast sound that nobody supports?
Its business & art. These cats are on major labels & have to make returns of investments.
When Kendrick was out none of you guys cared. Now you do, because of his affiliation with Dre. But then, because of his popularity some of you guys starting to dislike him because you want him to be a pseudo-westcoast gangsters ala 2pac or Death Row, even though it wasnt realistic. Just a dilluted entertaining image, look & mystique to cats like some of you.
Talk all that westcoast shit but none of you support or even talk about westcoast shit post-1996 or post Death Row affiliated stuff, yet ironically as you guys can see westcoast is starting to bubble by NOT following your guys thoughts & opinions. The last 2 westcoast rappers that blew up did NOT have a traditional westcoast sound or flow. So there's that.
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Like or dislike the move, all opinion but im sure he took what made the most sense for him business wise.
But here we go again with online internet reality.
When DA came out you people complained and many of you called it wack, same thing with LAX - shit, probably even more with LAX. But now you say that you want him to
have westcoast sounding production which DA was heavy on or go back to LAX, but you guys still complained ALOT when they came out. The bottom line with internet geeks is that you guys just hate popularity & success, thats it. You just use different reasons to justify the shit.
You can up the DA thread here & see what people were saying. The same people i see saying shit here, were hating on Game &/or DA & LAX when they came out.
Another thing, nobody wants to hear westcoast production. Thats the truth. This is the same forum still stuck in the mid 90's & who seems to think 2pac is the greatest rapper & want to go back to G-Funk sound. There is no distinctive westcoast sound right now & there hasnt been for over 10 years. Also, artists have to eat. Thats their job & living. You want Game, Kendrick, Dre, Snoop or whoever to do music that please Dubcnn? Good luck with that. The irony is that you guys then say they're irrelevant now (Game, Snoop etc maybe not Kendrick), so how more irrelevant would they be if they stuck to "please Dubcnn members"-music or westcoast sound that nobody supports?
Its business & art. These cats are on major labels & have to make returns of investments.
When Kendrick was out none of you guys cared. Now you do, because of his affiliation with Dre. But then, because of his popularity some of you guys starting to dislike him because you want him to be a pseudo-westcoast gangsters ala 2pac or Death Row, even though it wasnt realistic. Just a dilluted entertaining image, look & mystique to cats like some of you.
Talk all that westcoast shit but none of you support or even talk about westcoast shit post-1996 or post Death Row affiliated stuff, yet ironically as you guys can see westcoast is starting to bubble by NOT following your guys thoughts & opinions. The last 2 westcoast rappers that blew up did NOT have a traditional westcoast sound or flow. So there's that.
Where u from?
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Surprised Maybach Music Group didnt try snap him up to be honest... hope gamedoesnt goes down the route of a lot of cash money artist to be honest outside Drake Niki Wanye there aint been to many albums or promotion for the other cats just hope he doesnt become a mixtape/Hype man for Wayne,Drake,niki concerts looking back on what could have been with BLACK WALL STREET if they could have set up a label so many artists passed through that door 8)
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mack 10 move.....
Yup, and we see what good that did him.
did that mack 10 and glases malone cd even get attention on dubcc??
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Surprised Maybach Music Group didnt try snap him up to be honest... hope gamedoesnt goes down the route of a lot of cash money artist to be honest outside Drake Niki Wanye there aint been to many albums or promotion for the other cats just hope he doesnt become a mixtape/Hype man for Wayne,Drake,niki concerts looking back on what could have been with BLACK WALL STREET if they could have set up a label so many artists passed through that door 8)
MMG would have suited game better IMO, cinematic/grandiloquent productions, just perfect for his voice, flow and subject matter.
btw phunkydoob did you just say that game doesn't have a traditional westcoast sound ?
i don't think it's a nice move for game cause Cash Money don't do shit for their artists, none of them are bubbling except busta a little bit (i'm not talking about young money). a lot are signed and are nowhere to be heard. even tina fucking marie (rip) was signed lol. i doubt it's gonna revamp his career, if anything it's gonna put him in early retirement ala bow wow. it's a shame cause with the right musical direction he can release dope stuff, he just need to trim down the name dropping and the brown nosing (the line where he said he would lick a girl's pussy after some rapper fucked her was disgusting lol).
If he completely avoids meshing with their sound...then really nothing has changed & we're just going to get the same mediocre Game we've had since "Doctor's Advocate". But instead of him getting emotional about Dre & name dropping 50 Cent every couple of songs, he'll just rep Young Money & reference to Weezy & Drizzy every couple of songs lol.
lmao on fucking point.
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As much as people hate to admit it, Cash Money is still very much relevant.
No it's not. You're mistaking it with Young Money.
The way I see it, in house production from Cool and Dre, and loud mouth DJ Khaled promoting the hell out of his music in the South sounds like a good plan to me.
That plan has commercial failure written all over it. If he wants to be back in the spotlight again what he really needs is a made-for-the-bitches single featuring Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne, Drake, Tyga, and Future that uses a beat that sounds like every other popular hip hop song right now (the kind of mainstream hip hop sound that's made by a bunch of faceless guys whose beats all sound the same like Jahlil Beats, Kane Beatz, Ester Dean, Lex Lugar, K.E. On The Track, JR Rotem, Drumma Boy, etc...) that makes its billboard debut north of number 10 on the top 100 list and stays there for at least one week.
In other words if Game wants to be successful he'll need to convert into a rapper who makes club music for bitches ala Pitbull and Flo Rida. He definitely has the vocal skills to go down that route.
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Surprised Maybach Music Group didnt try snap him up to be honest... hope gamedoesnt goes down the route of a lot of cash money artist to be honest outside Drake Niki Wanye there aint been to many albums or promotion for the other cats just hope he doesnt become a mixtape/Hype man for Wayne,Drake,niki concerts looking back on what could have been with BLACK WALL STREET if they could have set up a label so many artists passed through that door 8)
I was surprised myself that Ross didn't scoop him up as he's been trying to get every former G-Unit affiliate under his umbrella.
I think Black Wall Street was likely doomed from jump. The things that make Game interesting as an artist are the same things that would make him a tough bet as a CEO. He didn't make it through a full promotional cycle on his debut album before he started feuding with his boss and label mate. A machine was put behind him to make him successful. Once that success hit, he cost that same machine millions by building a campaign that damaged its top acts in hopes of overthrowing it. Instead, it ended up dividing up everybody's sales and basically killing the golden goose.
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he should do album with Tyga, that might be only good thing from this deal
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How can anyone here say it's a good or a bad deal for Game? None of us know the specifics of this contract. :-\
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sooo sell out ass fuck...where is the game from the documentary or doctors advocate or even lax days???
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Like or dislike the move, all opinion but im sure he took what made the most sense for him business wise.
But here we go again with online internet reality.
When DA came out you people complained and many of you called it wack, same thing with LAX - shit, probably even more with LAX. But now you say that you want him to
have westcoast sounding production which DA was heavy on or go back to LAX, but you guys still complained ALOT when they came out. The bottom line with internet geeks is that you guys just hate popularity & success, thats it. You just use different reasons to justify the shit.
You can up the DA thread here & see what people were saying. The same people i see saying shit here, were hating on Game &/or DA & LAX when they came out.
Another thing, nobody wants to hear westcoast production. Thats the truth. This is the same forum still stuck in the mid 90's & who seems to think 2pac is the greatest rapper & want to go back to G-Funk sound. There is no distinctive westcoast sound right now & there hasnt been for over 10 years. Also, artists have to eat. Thats their job & living. You want Game, Kendrick, Dre, Snoop or whoever to do music that please Dubcnn? Good luck with that. The irony is that you guys then say they're irrelevant now (Game, Snoop etc maybe not Kendrick), so how more irrelevant would they be if they stuck to "please Dubcnn members"-music or westcoast sound that nobody supports?
Its business & art. These cats are on major labels & have to make returns of investments.
When Kendrick was out none of you guys cared. Now you do, because of his affiliation with Dre. But then, because of his popularity some of you guys starting to dislike him because you want him to be a pseudo-westcoast gangsters ala 2pac or Death Row, even though it wasnt realistic. Just a dilluted entertaining image, look & mystique to cats like some of you.
Talk all that westcoast shit but none of you support or even talk about westcoast shit post-1996 or post Death Row affiliated stuff, yet ironically as you guys can see westcoast is starting to bubble by NOT following your guys thoughts & opinions. The last 2 westcoast rappers that blew up did NOT have a traditional westcoast sound or flow. So there's that.
I don't know what you have been reading, but most people liked DA and LAX. After that it's been shit (aside from a few mixtape songs).
People don't want to her West Coast beats? Huh? Isn't that what got The Game to fame? Lol. The Game needs his old producers back because it's "very clear" that he isn't good at picking tracks. The beats are flat and nothing exciting anymore.
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game tryin too hard to adapt
if he would still make authentic west coast shit, he'd potentially be the king of the coast...played his cards wrong, and thats all there is 2 it
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he should do album with Tyga, that might be only good thing from this deal
epic troll post lol
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game tryin too hard to adapt
if he would still make authentic west coast shit, he'd potentially be the king of the coast...played his cards wrong, and thats all there is 2 it
Thank you NICC that is the honest truth. This whole Lil' Wayne and all the other changes really turned off his old fans. His record sales are down, and it's no very hard to figure out the formula for success.
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played his cards wrong, and thats all there is 2 it
Dude's played his cards wrong for virtually his entire career.
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The boos in my section were loud as fuck lol
props for that
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Like or dislike the move, all opinion but im sure he took what made the most sense for him business wise.
But here we go again with online internet reality.
When DA came out you people complained and many of you called it wack, same thing with LAX - shit, probably even more with LAX. But now you say that you want him to
have westcoast sounding production which DA was heavy on or go back to LAX, but you guys still complained ALOT when they came out. The bottom line with internet geeks is that you guys just hate popularity & success, thats it. You just use different reasons to justify the shit.
You can up the DA thread here & see what people were saying. The same people i see saying shit here, were hating on Game &/or DA & LAX when they came out.
Another thing, nobody wants to hear westcoast production. Thats the truth. This is the same forum still stuck in the mid 90's & who seems to think 2pac is the greatest rapper & want to go back to G-Funk sound. There is no distinctive westcoast sound right now & there hasnt been for over 10 years. Also, artists have to eat. Thats their job & living. You want Game, Kendrick, Dre, Snoop or whoever to do music that please Dubcnn? Good luck with that. The irony is that you guys then say they're irrelevant now (Game, Snoop etc maybe not Kendrick), so how more irrelevant would they be if they stuck to "please Dubcnn members"-music or westcoast sound that nobody supports?
Its business & art. These cats are on major labels & have to make returns of investments.
When Kendrick was out none of you guys cared. Now you do, because of his affiliation with Dre. But then, because of his popularity some of you guys starting to dislike him because you want him to be a pseudo-westcoast gangsters ala 2pac or Death Row, even though it wasnt realistic. Just a dilluted entertaining image, look & mystique to cats like some of you.
Talk all that westcoast shit but none of you support or even talk about westcoast shit post-1996 or post Death Row affiliated stuff, yet ironically as you guys can see westcoast is starting to bubble by NOT following your guys thoughts & opinions. The last 2 westcoast rappers that blew up did NOT have a traditional westcoast sound or flow. So there's that.
I don't know what you have been reading, but most people liked DA and LAX. After that it's been shit (aside from a few mixtape songs).
People don't want to her West Coast beats? Huh? Isn't that what got The Game to fame? Lol. The Game needs his old producers back because it's "very clear" that he isn't good at picking tracks. The beats are flat and nothing exciting anymore.
Been reading what they people here said, what you mean? Complaints alot of naysayers back then too. I was around here then too so i remember it clearly.
Game did not get famous off westcoast production, quite the opposite. Game got famous as a westcoast dude with an eastcoast flow & style. His production was never westcoast like that until DA. When he first hit people whined about him not sounding westcoast enough & i see the same thing about Kendrick from time to time, yet theyre the last westcoast rappers to blow together with Odd Future, ironic or nah?
Many people here & other places have this delusion about the westcoast & what it should be. Music is music & artists are artists. The perception of the westcoast scene & it's rappers here are just hilariously funny & sad. Dont have the energy to go on about it, alot of weirdo shit though. Ask people about how the westcoast scene looks & youll either get a hilarious response or none at all because they dont even live in the same country.
The general consensus about Game that i agree though is that at times he tries to adapt way too hard that it ends up not sounding authentic. I think his strong points are his personal songs, cuz hes always been transparant so it fits. The party songs are needed in the market but it usually doesnt come off right with him imo so i agree with that part.
You should watch that Ebro vs Rap Radar video. The point he brought up about Pusha T is basically the same with Dubcc or general internet idiots.
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mack 10 move.....
Yup, and we see what good that did him.
Bang or Ball was dope.
I'm just hoping this results in a "Bang or Ball" type project as opposed to a "Da Game is to Be Sold Not Told" type project.
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mack 10 move.....
Yup, and we see what good that did him.
Bang or Ball was dope.
I'm just hoping this results in a "Bang or Ball" type project as opposed to a "Da Game is to Be Sold Not Told" type project.
Yeah but Bang or Ball was dope on the strength of Mannie Fresh producing it, since Cash Money owe him cheese I don't see that happening for Game. Also, Da Game is to Be Sold wasn't bad as people make it out to be, just different than what people were used to. I don't see Game signing with them a bad thing. Birdman & Slim let the artists do them but on that same token Game like to follow trends and he may feel obligated to jump on they dick & do a straight Lil Wayne type album. He just need a Lil guidance to keep him in his lane and with Busta Rhymes over there he may keep him on the right page as he looked up to him when they both were on the Math.
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How can anyone here say it's a good or a bad deal for Game? None of us know the specifics of this contract. :-\
lol