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Title: Bad Azz - overlooked MC?
Post by: Diggfinger on February 13, 2014, 05:37:46 AM
It's funny, Bad Azz is a rapper that I always liked (good delivery, fresh rhymes, raspy voice), yet, he never release a record that I could listen to from top to bottom. Most of his albums had bangers here and there to be taken as pieces rather than as a whole.

This might translate into his career path: despite being schooled around Death Row's finest (Snoop, DJ Pooh, DPG) and the LCB Crew, Bad failed to garner much commercial success. Even with Personal Business which featured the biggest artists and producers such as Ice Cube, Snoop, Kokane, Jelly Roll, Battlecat etc. Despite having a successful single with "Wrong Idea" Bad thus seems to have had been as close to fame as one can get - only to "fall back" into releasing a slew of independent records and falling off the radar.

I never really dug Personal Business, nonetheless I am bumping a lot of his tracks at the moment. He seems like a really cool guy who remains humble and just has a positive vibe. Some of my favourite tracks are:

U Aint shit - Daz feat. Bad Azz
Incredible Hulk (prod. by Jelly Roll) - CAN SOMEONE HOOK ME UP WITH THIS??
Everyday - Bo-Rocc feat. Bad Azz https://www.youtube.com/v/fKGWvnFcqq8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKGWvnFcqq8) SMOOTH RELAXING TRACK
Talkin Bout U
Round and Round feat. LaToiya Williams (prod. by Soopafly)


what do you guys think of Bad Azz? What are your favourite tracks?

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Post by: KrazySumwhat on February 13, 2014, 06:17:09 AM
 Iam a pretty big Bad azz fan. I have bought all of his albums. Cant say that i have listened to him much for quite some time now though and his mix tapes that i heard sounded fairly shit.
 But his first two albums were both really good. I agree some weak tracks though.
 I always really liked him as a guest feature and was glad when he was appearing on all them dogg house albums and mix tapes.
 Its a real shame that he dosent work with DPG anymore.
 I always thought that he was fairly lyrical.
 fave tracks? hmm, off the top; "puttin it down" with Snoop, "my people". argh theres a couple i really like but i forget the titles. probably half the tracks on "personal business" would be up there. His latter albums i cant remember so well off the top.
 He was good on "out the moon" and other L.B.C crew tracks and that track on the doggys angles album.

 I have to agree that he alwyas seemed pretty humble. he has songs with pretty meaningful lyrics and some good party tracks too.
 
 
 
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Post by: Mista Rosa on February 13, 2014, 06:20:52 AM
Fav track "ghetto star"  8) 8)
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Post by: HighEyeCue on February 13, 2014, 06:55:46 AM
yeah he was always dope to me, one of the more lyrical cats that was with DPG at the time
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 13, 2014, 06:57:56 AM
He's decent, nothing special. I bought a lot of his earlier stuff, though I expected How We Get Down to take off as a single.
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Post by: Black Excellence on February 13, 2014, 07:05:19 AM
He's decent, nothing special. I bought a lot of his earlier stuff, though I expected How We Get Down to take off as a single.
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Post by: bouli77 on February 13, 2014, 07:10:20 AM
he's a very potent lyricist, like all the rappers from the LBC Crew were, good voice as well, entertaining overall,

his albums were good but underwhelming though, he's better as a featured rapper or in a group, the LBC Crew outfit was the perfect setup for him.

my favorite song from him is Blueberry, though it's on tha Doggfather, he was really on a roll during his LBC Crew days.
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Post by: doggfather on February 13, 2014, 08:46:26 AM
he's one of my favs from LBC, like all his album including the thug pound with Bizzy too.
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 13, 2014, 09:51:50 AM
Speaking of Wrong Idea, it was on both Bad Azz's and Snoop's albums, but did it ever seem to be more one person's song than the other when it came to marketing and/or releasing?  I remember the music video on BET having both albums credited (Personal Business and Tha Last Meal).  I still bump that song.
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Post by: doggfather on February 13, 2014, 10:11:40 AM
IMO that was some marketing idea from Snoop.
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Post by: Mr Wicked on February 13, 2014, 10:41:09 AM
Bad Azz is dope, he's really a humble dude
I recommend to check out some of his interviews
he did some really elaborate interviews where he talked about alot of behind the scenes stuff and regular day-to-day things
he seems like a real down to earth guy

I have to agree that he never dropped an album that was pure heat
but every album had a few gems that made them worth listening to
I think it's really sad that the LBC Crew album didn't come out back in the day
In my opinion that IS a good record and it would have been a better way to jump start his career
some of my favorite songs off the top are
"How We Get Down" (love this one, feel good song)
"No Hope"
"Everythang Happens Fo' A Reason"
"Krazy"
"Thug Song"
and more recently "Tha Lovely Ghetto"
just to name a few

Speaking of Wrong Idea, it was on both Bad Azz's and Snoop's albums, but did it ever seem to be more one person's song than the other when it came to marketing and/or releasing?  I remember the music video on BET having both albums credited (Personal Business and Tha Last Meal).  I still bump that song.

I think he talked about the story of that song somewhere, can't remember exactly
think he said that it was originally his song and supposed to be on his album and his single
but snoop liked the song and wanted to put it on his album so they agreed to put it out on both albums
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Post by: Fresh Bone on February 13, 2014, 11:14:11 AM
Bad Azz definately held it down on a number of songs. Beware Of My Crew, Flossin', Blueberries, Krazy, Ghetto Star, I'd Rather Lie 2 Ya (Original) and my personal favourite,  Livin' It Up to name a few.
Title: Re: Bad Azz - overlooked MC?
Post by: Diggfinger on February 13, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
he's one of my favs from LBC, like all his album including the thug pound with Bizzy too.

Thanks for pointing this out, had forgotten about that. They made two records together if Im not mistaken, in 2009 and 2012(?). Never heard these records but Bizzy is meh  :-\ below average to me. I can't stand his voice and he always acts like a cracka.


Speaking of Wrong Idea, it was on both Bad Azz's and Snoop's albums, but did it ever seem to be more one person's song than the other when it came to marketing and/or releasing?  I remember the music video on BET having both albums credited (Personal Business and Tha Last Meal).  I still bump that song.

I think he talked about the story of that song somewhere, can't remember exactly
think he said that it was originally his song and supposed to be on his album and his single
but snoop liked the song and wanted to put it on his album so they agreed to put it out on both albums

I guess this was Snoop's way of pushing Bad into the limelight. The song never got under my skin, but the beat (Jelly Roll) was ok with a good hook from Kokane and Lil Half Dead.
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Post by: kuruptlon on February 13, 2014, 02:11:11 PM


Always loved the way this song sounded in nice system

Bad Azz feat Snoop - We From The LBC



https://www.youtube.com/v/e3YSPBJtkIs?
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Post by: adi760 on February 13, 2014, 02:46:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/v/dwAQdoBuzoE
 8)
Outlawz where to lazy for write a verses, so Bad Azz is the only rapper (except for Outlawz) appeared on Makaveli.

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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 13, 2014, 02:55:02 PM
On LBC Crew cuts, I always felt like Techniec outshined him
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Post by: bouli77 on February 13, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
yeah techniec is a bit better, but i always thought they complemented each other's style pretty well.
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Post by: Mr Wicked on February 13, 2014, 03:19:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/v/dwAQdoBuzoE
 8)
Outlawz where to lazy for write a verses, so Bad Azz is the only rapper (except for Outlawz) appeared on Makaveli.



Bad Azz verse fit perfectly on that song
I can't believe he didn't write it for that one

yeah techniec is a bit better, but i always thought they complemented each other's style pretty well.

hell yeah, they were like ying and yang back then
Title: Re: Bad Azz - overlooked MC?
Post by: adi760 on February 13, 2014, 03:56:01 PM
I mean Outlawz supposed to be on this song, but writing took too much time for them. Pac was in hurry and asked Bad Azz; do he has anything - he had so thats how song was made.
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 13, 2014, 05:29:42 PM
I see you have read XXL's Making of Makaveli
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 13, 2014, 06:40:42 PM
just cuz the Outlawz were supposed to be on the song doesn't mean that Bad Azz's verse wasn't dope.  in fact it was probably the most heard verse he ever spit in his life time.  gotta be. 
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Post by: smp4life on February 13, 2014, 06:55:09 PM
Bad Azz had some decent tracks. And he was good on a lot of dpg related stuff. just had trouble holding down a whole record. Lot of rappers like that. Rage, Rbx, etc.
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite on February 13, 2014, 07:57:37 PM
Nice thread...

Yeah I remember when the "Beware of My Crew" video came out and I saw him on video for the first time.  I have to say he did have that "IT" quality they talk about in the industry.  Seeing him shine on that record he stood out from the rest, and I was thinking to myself that he would blow up someday.

I was really hyped to get Word On The Streets when it dropped.  I remember Snoop hooked him up with a nice single, Snoop was sportin a No Limit jersey in the video.   But it became pretty clear bumpin the album that Bad Azz just didn't have enough content and vocab to carry a whole album.  He would of been perfect for an LBC Crew album but not as a solo artist.

That said, he did stumble into a gem on Word On The Streets with "The Last Time".  Don't know how much he really had to do with the track conceptually, but I've always felt that joint.
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Post by: Black Excellence on February 13, 2014, 08:12:01 PM
that personal business is a west coast classic though.  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 13, 2014, 08:15:51 PM
infinite and og closet have that fag status material smh
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Post by: aerroc on February 13, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
i liked U Aint shit - Daz feat. Bad Azz
and that 1 he did with snoop dissing Topzilla & tha fakest :D
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Post by: doggfather on February 13, 2014, 11:28:57 PM
On LBC Crew cuts, I always felt like Techniec outshined him

that's correct.
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Post by: Diggfinger on February 14, 2014, 12:22:47 AM


Always loved the way this song sounded in nice system

Bad Azz feat Snoop - We From The LBC



https://www.youtube.com/v/e3YSPBJtkIs?


Yeah that was probably my favourite track that record. Nice, laid-back vibe.

Bad spits a decent verse on "Where U From" from the Dogg Chit record too:

https://www.youtube.com/v/wkt7WPZ9XtU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkt7WPZ9XtU)
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Post by: Diggfinger on February 14, 2014, 12:33:49 AM
Fred Wreck's remix of Who Ride Wit Us
https://www.youtube.com/v/r2Y8MR-U6Gs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2Y8MR-U6Gs)

Speaking of Fred Wreck produced Bad Azz tracks, can someone upload "Let's Roll, Baby" from Executive Decisions (alongside "Incredible Hulk" from that same record).
Thanks!

Here are some random Fred Wreck tracks with Bad Azz on them:

STOP Movement - Down with US
https://www.youtube.com/v/aTy3fYhFFHQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTy3fYhFFHQ)

Eastsidaz feat. Bad Azz - Gang Bang 4 Real
https://www.youtube.com/v/XehYa254RPQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehYa254RPQ)
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Post by: Okka on February 14, 2014, 03:41:05 AM
Bad Azz always been underrated, one of my favorites from DPG. It's a shame he never got any bigger. The LBC Crew would've went platinum for sure if it dropped back in 1996 and "Personal Business" should've sold more too. I like "Word On Tha Streets" more though, that's a personal classic to me. I got all of his albums except for that collabo album that dropped with Bizzy Bone. Bad Azz didn't even know that it came out, i asked him about it on Twitter when it dropped and he was askin me a link for it 'cause he had no idea that it was comin' out. He said he must've been real high when he agreed to release that album, but after that he was tellin' people to go and get it.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 14, 2014, 09:38:15 AM
bad azz was a top 3 lyricist on the west for awhile.  sadly being lyrical on the west coast does not do much for commercial success  (just ask Crooked I, Ras Kass, Planet Asia etc and compare them to Tyga lol)
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Post by: Black Excellence on February 14, 2014, 09:48:30 AM
bad azz > crooked i
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Post by: doggfather on February 14, 2014, 09:52:27 AM
bad azz > crooked i

without a question!
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 14, 2014, 09:55:51 AM
bad azz > crooked i
::)
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Post by: KURUPTION-81 on February 14, 2014, 12:51:07 PM
Always rated bad azz, personal business has some of my favourite west coast tracks on it.
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Post by: Diggfinger on February 15, 2014, 02:25:25 AM
Bad Azz had some decent tracks. And he was good on a lot of dpg related stuff. just had trouble holding down a whole record. Lot of rappers like that. Rage, Rbx, etc.

I see your point regarding RBX, although I find both RBX Files and No Mercy No Remorse to be VERY solid albums, with but a few skippable tracks.


i liked U Aint shit - Daz feat. Bad Azz
and that 1 he did with snoop dissing Topzilla & tha fakest :D


Which track was that?
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Post by: TraceOneInfinite on February 15, 2014, 06:21:18 AM
Bad Azz always been underrated, one of my favorites from DPG. It's a shame he never got any bigger. The LBC Crew would've went platinum for sure if it dropped back in 1996 and "Personal Business" should've sold more too. I like "Word On Tha Streets" more though, that's a personal classic to me. I got all of his albums except for that collabo album that dropped with Bizzy Bone. Bad Azz didn't even know that it came out, i asked him about it on Twitter when it dropped and he was askin me a link for it 'cause he had no idea that it was comin' out. He said he must've been real high when he agreed to release that album, but after that he was tellin' people to go and get it.

thats dope... how you talk to Bad Azz like that?  I need to holler at him about some stuff...
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Post by: Okka on February 15, 2014, 07:03:31 AM
Bad Azz always been underrated, one of my favorites from DPG. It's a shame he never got any bigger. The LBC Crew would've went platinum for sure if it dropped back in 1996 and "Personal Business" should've sold more too. I like "Word On Tha Streets" more though, that's a personal classic to me. I got all of his albums except for that collabo album that dropped with Bizzy Bone. Bad Azz didn't even know that it came out, i asked him about it on Twitter when it dropped and he was askin me a link for it 'cause he had no idea that it was comin' out. He said he must've been real high when he agreed to release that album, but after that he was tellin' people to go and get it.

thats dope... how you talk to Bad Azz like that?  I need to holler at him about some stuff...

I talked to him on Twitter, he usually answers back.
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Post by: Diggfinger on February 16, 2014, 02:39:57 AM
Pimpin Young feat. Bad Azz - Can I pimp it? (video)
https://www.youtube.com/v/WZkTfznSN7w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZkTfznSN7w)

Bad Azz - Numero Uno (video)
https://www.youtube.com/v/Kmvlx8-Hups (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmvlx8-Hups)

Btw. did anyone check out his mix tapes "Im Back and I aint went nowhere"?
http://www.dubcnn.com/media/audio/badazz-imbaaackandwentnowhere2/ (http://www.dubcnn.com/media/audio/badazz-imbaaackandwentnowhere2/)

There is a track with Nate Dogg called "Sweet Pack of Lies" https://www.youtube.com/v/x6iBgJ1qSso (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6iBgJ1qSso) - any1 know it?
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Post by: Diggfinger on February 16, 2014, 02:50:14 AM
Bad Azz - Hood Stories (Prod. by XL Middleton)  8)
https://www.youtube.com/v/RdLs1AMOJdQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdLs1AMOJdQ)
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Post by: FUCK-YOU-BItch on February 17, 2014, 07:48:42 AM
bad azz > crooked i

without a question!

...lol even snoop said in that interview in 2006 that crooked i is better than badazz... and the thing about that makaveli song krazy is that the outlawz had something for this but the beat was too slow for them and they passed it on badazz because badazz was more than anybody from the dpg in the studio sessions of 2pac/outlawz...they got two recording rooms dpg used one and pac/lawz..so the competion was there...
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Post by: doggfather on February 17, 2014, 08:13:53 AM
bad azz > crooked i

without a question!

...lol even snoop said in that interview in 2006 that crooked i is better than badazz... and the thing about that makaveli song krazy is that the outlawz had something for this but the beat was too slow for them and they passed it on badazz because badazz was more than anybody from the dpg in the studio sessions of 2pac/outlawz...they got two recording rooms dpg used one and pac/lawz..so the competion was there...

it ain't a fact just 'cause Snoop said...
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 17, 2014, 08:14:41 AM
it's a fact because anyone with a working set of ears knows it
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Post by: Okka on February 17, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
bad azz > crooked i

without a question!

...lol even snoop said in that interview in 2006 that crooked i is better than badazz... and the thing about that makaveli song krazy is that the outlawz had something for this but the beat was too slow for them and they passed it on badazz because badazz was more than anybody from the dpg in the studio sessions of 2pac/outlawz...they got two recording rooms dpg used one and pac/lawz..so the competion was there...

Where did Snoop say that?
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Post by: Fresh Bone on February 17, 2014, 09:08:41 AM
badazz was more than anybody from the dpg in the studio sessions of 2pac/outlawz...they got two recording rooms dpg used one and pac/lawz..so the competion was there...

I think Kurupt was with 'Pac and Tha Outlawz more than anyone out of DPG.
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 17, 2014, 09:10:54 AM
badazz was more than anybody from the dpg in the studio sessions of 2pac/outlawz...they got two recording rooms dpg used one and pac/lawz..so the competion was there...

I think Kurupt was with 'Pac and Tha Outlawz more than anyone out of DPG.

yeah, kurupt and daz seem to have done a lot more work with Pac than Snoop did for example.


bad azz was on like what, 5 songs with Pac? 
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Post by: Black Excellence on February 17, 2014, 09:17:14 AM
bad azz > crooked i

without a question!

...lol even snoop said in that interview in 2006 that crooked i is better than badazz... and the thing about that makaveli song krazy is that the outlawz had something for this but the beat was too slow for them and they passed it on badazz because badazz was more than anybody from the dpg in the studio sessions of 2pac/outlawz...they got two recording rooms dpg used one and pac/lawz..so the competion was there...
snoop didn't said that in '06 it was actually the other way around.
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Post by: BIGWORM on February 17, 2014, 10:12:19 AM
Dude is talented and is a good writer but he just can't carry a whole song. He's the type of rapper that needs to be in a group.
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Post by: Black Excellence on February 17, 2014, 10:15:00 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=WQ9ScHhBLPM  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 17, 2014, 10:27:37 AM
Dude is talented and is a good writer but he just can't carry a whole song. He's the type of rapper that needs to be in a group.
Yup.  The retail version of Ghetto Star got really boring after one or two verses.  Frankly I used to listen to the instrumental more than the retail song (since I had the CD single for it back in the day).
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Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 17, 2014, 11:17:03 AM
Dude is talented and is a good writer but he just can't carry a whole song. He's the type of rapper that needs to be in a group.
Yup.  The retail version of Ghetto Star got really boring after one or two verses.  Frankly I used to listen to the instrumental more than the retail song (since I had the CD single for it back in the day).

the version with Pac is the best
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Post by: Sccit on March 11, 2014, 02:29:43 PM
personal business and word on tha streetz are both west coast classics