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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: MistaNova on June 09, 2014, 01:48:38 PM
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Meanwhile the Astros are 28-36.
I'm starting to think that the Rays don't have what it takes to compete this year guys.
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Yeah, I know their rotation is beat up but to already be this far below .500 isn't a good sign.
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Jays are winning the division this year
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even David Price isn't pitching like an ace this year.
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Jays are winning the division this year
They look ridiculous this year.
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Jays are winning the division this year
I'm officially a Jays fan this year. They have a local guy, Kevin Sietzer, as their hitting coach. He's a fan favorite around here and we are all still pissed the Royals fired him a couple years back. He saved Alex Gordons career and the Royals were one of the better hitting teams. But out of arrogance our manager had him fired claiming that our guys didn't hit enough home runs...
Now the Royals hit even less homeruns then when Sietzer was here and they have been the worst hitting team in the majors going thru 4 hitting coaches in less than 2 seasons since he left!!
The funniest case was Gordon. Gordon was shuffling back and forth from the minors hitting like .220 with no power, and so Sietzer comes along and asks him if he wants to hit .230 with power or hit .300 without, and Gordon said he just wanted to hit 300. So Sietz promised Gordon if he did what he was told he would be a .300 hitter with 5 homeruns. Well, it turned out with Sietzer that Gordon hit over 20 homeruns and plus .300 as well!! So he over-achieved. The next year he comes back under Sietzer again and still hits .300 plus but this time with like 15 homers. So Sietzer gets blamed for his "lack of homerun production" when before Sietzer the guy couldn't even stay on the major league roster!
Anyway all this has been well documented. Gibbons is also a KC guy so he knew what was up. Sietz still comes to the city often and chats with local media, we love him here
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Jays are winning the division this year
Tell us though, how much longer will it be until the artificial turf destroys Jose Reyes' legs?
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Jays are winning the division this year
Tell us though, how much longer will it be until the artificial turf destroys Jose Reyes' legs?
We'll hopefully he can last another 3+ seasons since they are putting natural grass in the dome by 2018
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I smell another Bay Bridge series
https://www.youtube.com/v/qpAPILKw3iY
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Speaking of the Rays, what do you all think of Will Myers now? The Royals traded him and he won rookie of the year last year. Now everyone is down on him. Don't you all think he will be fine once he's healthy and still have a great career in Tampa?
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Speaking of the Rays, what do you all think of Will Myers now? The Royals traded him and he won rookie of the year last year. Now everyone is down on him. Don't you all think he will be fine once he's healthy and still have a great career in Tampa?
He strikes out too much.
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Speaking of the Rays, what do you all think of Will Myers now? The Royals traded him and he won rookie of the year last year. Now everyone is down on him. Don't you all think he will be fine once he's healthy and still have a great career in Tampa?
He strikes out too much.
you think he will come around or do you think there is a chance the Royals may have won the Shields/Wade Davis for Myers/Oddorizi trade?
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you think he will come around or do you think there is a chance the Royals may have won the Shields/Wade Davis for Myers/Oddorizi trade?
There's no way the Royals will ever win that trade, Shields is out of the door and the Royals never made it to the postseason when he was with the team. Myers could flame out today and the Rays will still win that trade. Odorizzi (you spelled it wrong) has contributed a lot to the Rays this season by filling in for the injured Jeremy Hellickson in the rotation. If you combine 2013 and 2014, Myers and Odorizzi have contributed more to the Rays then Shields and Davis did for the Royals. Plus Mike Montgomery and Patrick Leonard (the two other players KC sent to Tampa) have both become top prospects in the Tampa Bay Rays organization. Montgomery is in triple-A and improving, and Leonard has been selected to this year's FSL All-Star Game and will be part of the FSL ASG Home Run Derby. Rays win, no question.
And Myers will turn it around. You don't have to be as smart as the people in the Rays organization (which you clearly aren't Infinite) to know that he is vital to the Rays' success. The Rays knows that the Rays offense is basically just Myers, Longoria and Zobrist. They will do whatever it takes to help Myers (who for all we know could just be suffering a mild sophomore slump) get back on track and help them compete next year.
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There's no way the Royals will ever win that trade, Shields is out of the door and the Royals never made it to the postseason when he was with the team.
Funny. I didn't realize the 2014 season had already ended. Last I checked they had not even played the All-Star game, but maybe I missed something.
If you combine 2013 and 2014, Myers and Odorizzi have contributed more to the Rays then Shields and Davis did for the Royals.
Again, I didn't realize the 2014 season had already finished. Myers is contributing nothing to the Rays this season, while the Royals have a legitimate #1 starter in Shields who is leading the team in wins so far, and the best player and leader of the whole team. Wade Davis is one of the top 5 relievers in baseball so far this season. He has an ERA below 2.00. Davis is locked into a longer contract. So if you think that Odorizzi is worth more than a #1 starter and a top reliever in 2014 then you are wrong... but then again you aren't counting 2014 and think the season is already over.
Plus Mike Montgomery and Patrick Leonard (the two other players KC sent to Tampa) have both become top prospects in the Tampa Bay Rays organization. Montgomery is in triple-A and improving, and Leonard has been selected to this year's FSL All-Star Game and will be part of the FSL ASG Home Run Derby. Rays win, no question.
And Myers will turn it around. You don't have to be as smart as the people in the Rays organization (which you clearly aren't Infinite) to know that he is vital to the Rays' success. The Rays knows that the Rays offense is basically just Myers, Longoria and Zobrist. They will do whatever it takes to help Myers (who for all we know could just be suffering a mild sophomore slump) get back on track and help them compete next year.
Good analysis (outside of your comments on 2014). I agree that the Rays will likely ultimately win this trade. Especially if they are able to get something out of Montgomery. I also think Myers will get it back together.
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Funny. I didn't realize the 2014 season had already ended. Last I checked they had not even played the All-Star game, but maybe I missed something.
The Royals are a team in the AL Central but they're not called the Detroit Tigers. Their 2014 season was over before it started.
Again, I didn't realize the 2014 season had already finished. Myers is contributing nothing to the Rays this season, while the Royals have a legitimate #1 starter in Shields who is leading the team in wins so far, and the best player and leader of the whole team. Wade Davis is one of the top 5 relievers in baseball so far this season. He has an ERA below 2.00. Davis is locked into a longer contract. So if you think that Odorizzi is worth more than a #1 starter and a top reliever in 2014 then you are wrong... but then again you aren't counting 2014 and think the season is already over.
Myers has contributed, just not the numbers that everybody was expecting him to.
In the end it won't matter how great Shields, Davis or Johnson (who's already gone) were in KC. The Royals have already lost this trade. The Royals might be able to keep Davis around for a little longer, but the Rays will be able to keep around Myers, Odorizzi, Montgomery and Leonard a whole lot longer.
I like how you're suddenly all optimistic about the Royals even though you left them for dead and jumped on the Blue Jays bandwagon. Then again you were only spewing nonsense like how some nobody on the Jays is still a thing in Kansas or some shit like that.
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The Royals are a team in the AL Central but they're not called the Detroit Tigers. Their 2014 season was over before it started.
The Royals are only two games behind the Tigers and you failed to mention the possibility of getting in as a Wild Card. With the parody in baseball this year the Royals are right in the thick of the Wild Card race right now. If Shields gets us into the playoffs then it was worth it. Just like it was worth it for the Brewers to have Grienke and get into the playoffs. In fact, just being in the race last year and this year as well is worth it for a lot of fans.
I like how you're suddenly all optimistic about the Royals even though you left them for dead and jumped on the Blue Jays bandwagon. Then again you were only spewing nonsense like how some nobody on the Jays is still a thing in Kansas or some shit like that.
I've been on the Blue Jays bandwagon since the beginning of the year. All the fan base felt bad when Kevin Sietzer was fired. He played in Kansas City and is a regular with the local media and local charities. Blue Jays Manager John Gibbons also used to be in KC. When they hired Sietzer as hitting coach I knew they would do well.
Admittedly I thought the Royals were self-destructing after they got swept by the Astros. I admit that and I'm on record for saying that so I can't do anything but own that.
...we were discussing the Shields trade and I just asked a question. I'm not tied to the Royals winning that deal as I felt from the outset that the Royals would lose that deal. Rany Jazerli is a local blogger and radio personality here and he is one of the geniuses that came up with analytics and advanced statistics, founding baseball prospectus magazine... I always take information from him because he knows what he's talking about and he said that the Shields deal was a bad one from the beginning.
I appreciate your analysis, I just don't know why you chose to be an asshole about it.
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Montgomery is in triple-A and improving
LOL.. you sure about that genius? I just checked up on him today dude is still a bust.
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The Royals are a team in the AL Central but they're not called the Detroit Tigers. Their 2014 season was over before it started.
Detroit 36 29 .554 - 5-5 W2 18-16 18-13 6/15 vs MIN, W 4-3 6/16 vs KC, 7:08 PM
Kansasi 36 32 .529 1.5 8-2 W7 18-16 18-16 6/15 @ CWS, W 6-3 6/16 @ DET, 7:08 PM
...If the Royals win their next two games they would have sole possession of first place. You sure the season is over already, dipshit?
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There's no way the Royals will ever win that trade, Shields is out of the door and the Royals never made it to the postseason when he was with the team.
You fucking dumbass...look at the standings... if the season ended today the Royals would be in the playoffs. Shields is still on the team, dipshit! I just realized you probably thought Shields was traded on a one year deal and didn't even know he was still on the Royals, lol
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The top two Wild Card teams from each league make the postseason and play each other in a one-game playoff.
If two or more teams are tied for their division lead, they will be listed among the Wild Card teams below.
Wild Card Teams W L PCT WCGB WCE # L10 STRK LAST GAME NEXT GAME
LA Angels 37 31 .544 +1.0 - 6-4 L1 6/15 @ ATL, L 3-7 6/16 @ CLE, 7:05 PM
Kansas City 36 32 .529 - - 8-2 W7 6/15 @ CWS, W 6-3 6/16 @ DET, 7:08 PM
Baltimore 35 33 .515 1.0 94 5-5 L1 6/15 vs TOR, L 2-5 6/16 @ TB, 7:10 PM
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Well, that escalated quickly.
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You fucking dumbass...look at the standings... if the season ended today the Royals would be in the playoffs. Shields is still on the team, dipshit! I just realized you probably thought Shields was traded on a one year deal and didn't even know he was still on the Royals, lol
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The top two Wild Card teams from each league make the postseason and play each other in a one-game playoff.
If two or more teams are tied for their division lead, they will be listed among the Wild Card teams below.
Wild Card Teams W L PCT WCGB WCE # L10 STRK LAST GAME NEXT GAME
LA Angels 37 31 .544 +1.0 - 6-4 L1 6/15 @ ATL, L 3-7 6/16 @ CLE, 7:05 PM
Kansas City 36 32 .529 - - 8-2 W7 6/15 @ CWS, W 6-3 6/16 @ DET, 7:08 PM
Baltimore 35 33 .515 1.0 94 5-5 L1 6/15 vs TOR, L 2-5 6/16 @ TB, 7:10 PM
LMAO, this "ficca" is so butthurt that he replied four times in a row :D :D :D :D.
Your Royals are a piece of shit. And James Shields will not be back with the team in 2015, end of story.
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You fucking dumbass...look at the standings... if the season ended today the Royals would be in the playoffs. Shields is still on the team, dipshit! I just realized you probably thought Shields was traded on a one year deal and didn't even know he was still on the Royals, lol
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The top two Wild Card teams from each league make the postseason and play each other in a one-game playoff.
If two or more teams are tied for their division lead, they will be listed among the Wild Card teams below.
Wild Card Teams W L PCT WCGB WCE # L10 STRK LAST GAME NEXT GAME
LA Angels 37 31 .544 +1.0 - 6-4 L1 6/15 @ ATL, L 3-7 6/16 @ CLE, 7:05 PM
Kansas City 36 32 .529 - - 8-2 W7 6/15 @ CWS, W 6-3 6/16 @ DET, 7:08 PM
Baltimore 35 33 .515 1.0 94 5-5 L1 6/15 vs TOR, L 2-5 6/16 @ TB, 7:10 PM
LMAO, this "ficca" is so butthurt that he replied four times in a row :D :D :D :D.
Your Royals are a piece of shit. And James Shields will not be back with the team in 2015, end of story.
He's right though. I don't really know enough about the Royals in particular, but the Central division sucks and teams in the AL are very mediocre. in general. With the second wild card slot, they're at least in the mix at this point.
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He's right though. I don't really know enough about the Royals in particular, but the Central division sucks and teams in the AL are very mediocre. in general. With the second wild card slot, they're at least in the mix at this point.
He's bringing up wild card standings in the middle of June. His argument automatically lost right there.
And normally I would go into detail about how the Royals are just pretenders but I don't have to since Infinite will throw a hissy fit again when the Royals lose a few games in a row and do it for me.
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There's no way the Royals will ever win that trade, Shields is out of the door and the Royals never made it to the postseason when he was with the team.
If the Royals win tomorrow night they move ahead of the Tigers and take full possession of 1rst place in the Central division. I still don't know if you realize this, BUT SHIELDS IS STILL ON THE TEAM, and the team would be in the playoffs if the playoffs started today.
So please respond to your comment above that I quoted... I'm waiting...
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If the Royals win tomorrow night they move ahead of the Tigers and take full possession of 1rst place in the Central division. I still don't know if you realize this, BUT SHIELDS IS STILL ON THE TEAM, and the team would be in the playoffs if the playoffs started today.
So please respond to your comment above that I quoted... I'm waiting...
It's still June dumbass, my point is that the season won't end today. If the past three seasons are any indication, the Tigers have let others enjoy first place for a while before taking the throne for themselves near the end. It happened to the Indians (twice) and it happened to the White Sox. And those teams were far more superior to the 2014 Royals.
And I don't have to respond. In a week or two you'll just throw a tantrum and bitch and moan about how your Royals are falling apart because they got swept or something. You always do.
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If the Royals win tomorrow night they move ahead of the Tigers and take full possession of 1rst place in the Central division. I still don't know if you realize this, BUT SHIELDS IS STILL ON THE TEAM, and the team would be in the playoffs if the playoffs started today.
So please respond to your comment above that I quoted... I'm waiting...
It's still June dumbass, my point is that the season won't end today. If the past three seasons are any indication, the Tigers have let others enjoy first place for a while before taking the throne for themselves near the end. It happened to the Indians (twice) and it happened to the White Sox. And those teams were far more superior to the 2014 Royals.
And I don't have to respond. In a week or two you'll just throw a tantrum and bitch and moan about how your Royals are falling apart because they got swept or something. You always do.
I think that you thought Shields was traded on a 1 year deal. I think you didn't even know he was still on the Royals and now you are trying to backtrack by saying "the season was over before it started everyone knows the Tigers will win".
Which only makes you sound even more stupid, because you totally neglected the fact that the Royals are currently in place for the Wild Card spot and 1 win away from taking the division lead as well.
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The Royals are a team in the AL Central but they're not called the Detroit Tigers. Their 2014 season was over before it started.
The Royals are in 1rst place. Keep backtracking dipshit...
1. Kansas C 38 32 .543 - 9-1 W9 18-16 20-16 6/17 @ DET, W 11-4 6/18 @ DET, 1:08 PM
2. Detroit 36 31 .537 0.5 4-6 L2 18-18 18-13 6/17 vs KC, L 4-11 6/18 vs KC, 1:08 PM
3. Cleveland 36 36 .500 3.0 5-5 L1 22-12 14-24 6/17 vs LAA, L 3-9 6/18 vs LAA, 7:05 PM
4. Chi White Sox 33 37 .471 5.0 3-7 L4 19-18 14-19 6/15 vs KC, L 3-6 Live vs SF
5. Minnesota 32 37 .464 5.5 4-6 L4 15-17 17-20 6/17 @ BOS, L 1-2 6/18 @ BOS, 1:35 PM