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Title: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 01, 2015, 10:54:23 PM
Can anyone here explain a few mysteries surrounding U Can Be Touched? As many of us know, it has been rumored that Tha Realest raps Pac verse on the "OG" of the song. Listening to the verse carefully, this seems possible to me, though I'm not entirely convinced. But there's some other facts about this song that raise suspicions:

1. Why is Kadafi's verse not present on the "OG" version?

2. Why does it seem like Kastro's verse is a tribute to the deceased Tupac? ("schooled by the realest of the real niggas to ever breathe")

3. Why is Pac's verse rapped by Napoleon on Still I Rise?

The best answer to these questions might be that the version of U Can Be Touched that we consider the "OG" version is actually a posthumous remix, perhaps recorded for the scrapped Outlawz DR album or even for Still I Rise. If it's a posthumous take, that would explain why Kadafi's verse isn't there. Posthumous recording could also explain why Tha Realest contributed vocals to the song, if that is actually him on it. And if Pac never really rapped a verse on the song in the first place, that would explain why Napoleon raps the verse in the released version.

Has any information emerged to clarify this situation?
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 01, 2015, 10:54:59 PM
Jmix, perhaps you could ask Napoleon what the deal with this song was in your next interview with him?
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Giesuz on February 02, 2015, 01:35:17 AM
it's 2pac rapping, not tha realest! any real fan should know and hear. 
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Paolo on February 02, 2015, 08:42:02 AM
it's 2pac rapping, not tha realest! any real fan should know and hear. 

good talk
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 02, 2015, 09:24:40 AM
it's 2pac rapping, not tha realest! any real fan should know and hear. 

Like I said, I'm on the fence on the matter. The line "five fingers on the forty-five chrome" sounds like it has a little bit of Realest's southern twang and slightly deeper voice.
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Mietek23 on February 02, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Anyone who thinks Tha Realest is rapping on "U Can Be Touched" need to get his ears cleaned - point blank.
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 02, 2015, 11:21:13 AM
the OG with pac is obviously the true original with a diff Napo verse


the outlawz went in after and that's how Kadafi got added on and how Napoleon redid Pac's verse on the OG
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: T-o-m on February 02, 2015, 12:26:49 PM
Anyone who thinks Tha Realest is rapping on "U Can Be Touched" need to get his ears cleaned - point blank.

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Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: jmix on February 03, 2015, 11:28:12 AM
it's 2pac rapping, not tha realest! any real fan should know and hear. 

Like I said, I'm on the fence on the matter. The line "five fingers on the forty-five chrome" sounds like it has a little bit of Realest's southern twang and slightly deeper voice.

playa cards right male, where u been and u can be touched are examples of DAT errors on songs. The realest put vocals on this track, confirmed by producer D harp. anyone who cant accept that fact needs their ears cleaned. lol.

its more common than people think.
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Mietek23 on February 03, 2015, 12:00:14 PM
it's 2pac rapping, not tha realest! any real fan should know and hear. 

Like I said, I'm on the fence on the matter. The line "five fingers on the forty-five chrome" sounds like it has a little bit of Realest's southern twang and slightly deeper voice.

playa cards right male, where u been and u can be touched are examples of DAT errors on songs. The realest put vocals on this track, confirmed by producer D harp. anyone who cant accept that fact needs their ears cleaned. lol.

its more common than people think.

I've heard that interview you did with Darryl Harper and never did he told specifically Tha Realest is rapping on "U Can Be Touched" - if he did that verse, it would be his greatest 2Pac impersonation EVER and never did he came close to that level, even tho he tried hard.

If his vocals were featured on that track you could tell, just like they were on that "clean versions" of "Life Goes On" + "Troublesome '98" and people noticed it right away.
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: on February 03, 2015, 02:50:42 PM
If tha realest is that good with his impersonations why did they leave such a huge gap in Play Ya Cards Right retail? At most I think he contributed some doubles/layers here and there along with his obvious voice overs on Troublesome and Life Goes On.

Bar that he wasn't a perfect impersonator.
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 03, 2015, 09:08:20 PM
The reason that Amaru didn't use vocals from Tha Realest on Playa Cards Right is probably the same reason that the Outlawz chose not to release Pac's verse on U Can Be Touched: they ended up deciding that it was fucked up to falsify history and have another man impersonate Pac.

But that doesn't mean they wouldn't have initially toyed with the possibility before rejecting it. It makes sense if U Can Be Touched is a case where they were experimenting with Tha Realest recording a verse that Pac wrote in a notebook or recorded on a damaged DAT. In the end, they didn't feel right releasing it, so they had Napolean record Pac's verse but switch out "father" for "parents."
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Inferio07 on February 03, 2015, 10:34:09 PM
The reason that Amaru didn't use vocals from Tha Realest on Playa Cards Right is probably the same reason that the Outlawz chose not to release Pac's verse on U Can Be Touched: they ended up deciding that it was fucked up to falsify history and have another man impersonate Pac.

But that doesn't mean they wouldn't have initially toyed with the possibility before rejecting it. It makes sense if U Can Be Touched is a case where they were experimenting with Tha Realest recording a verse that Pac wrote in a notebook or recorded on a damaged DAT. In the end, they didn't feel right releasing it, so they had Napolean record Pac's verse but switch out "father" for "parents."

I don't know how you could even think that The Fakest did that verse, its so easy to tell the difference between a biter and the real thing, no disrespect to you but any TRUE fan of Pac can easily point out the phonies
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Sccit on February 04, 2015, 04:28:55 PM
kasinova is a better pac impersonator than tha realest.....new lambfam member EBZ also naturally has a voice that sounds almost exactly like Pac's
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: jmix on February 04, 2015, 04:34:47 PM
The reason that Amaru didn't use vocals from Tha Realest on Playa Cards Right is probably the same reason that the Outlawz chose not to release Pac's verse on U Can Be Touched: they ended up deciding that it was fucked up to falsify history and have another man impersonate Pac.

But that doesn't mean they wouldn't have initially toyed with the possibility before rejecting it. It makes sense if U Can Be Touched is a case where they were experimenting with Tha Realest recording a verse that Pac wrote in a notebook or recorded on a damaged DAT. In the end, they didn't feel right releasing it, so they had Napolean record Pac's verse but switch out "father" for "parents."

EXACTLY! THANK U!!!
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 04, 2015, 09:24:45 PM
If it's so obviously Pac on the U Can Be Touched original version, why would the Outlawz NOT release his verse on Still I Rise? That makes no sense, considering that more verses from Pac are bound to increase sales and improve the album's quality.

The idea that the verse was written for Napoleon seems bogus to me, since the OG version has "needing a father" and Napoleon's version has "needing my parents," which makes sense, since Napoleon's parents were murdered. If Pac were writing for Napoleon the way he wrote for Hammer or Snoop Dogg, he would adopt their characters and not rap as though he were talking about his own life ("needing a father").
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Sccit on February 04, 2015, 09:36:13 PM
its definitely pac
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Inferio07 on February 04, 2015, 10:20:18 PM
If it's so obviously Pac on the U Can Be Touched original version, why would the Outlawz NOT release his verse on Still I Rise? That makes no sense, considering that more verses from Pac are bound to increase sales and improve the album's quality.

The idea that the verse was written for Napoleon seems bogus to me, since the OG version has "needing a father" and Napoleon's version has "needing my parents," which makes sense, since Napoleon's parents were murdered. If Pac were writing for Napoleon the way he wrote for Hammer or Snoop Dogg, he would adopt their characters and not rap as though he were talking about his own life ("needing a father").

I don't believe it was written for napoleon either. When Pac said "Needing a father but he was never there for me", Pac's father obviously wasn't in the mass majority of his life. I don't even know how anyone could think that verse sounds like that Pac impersonator. When this or any other Pac Biter raps I have ALWAYS been able to point them out, I've been listening to Pac since i was 11 years old, i am now 33, i think i would be able to tell if it is Pac or not, come on bro, listen closely
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Sccit on February 04, 2015, 10:23:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TleVdDAiHVo
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: gio™fugahoo on February 05, 2015, 01:12:02 AM
If it's so obviously Pac on the U Can Be Touched original version, why would the Outlawz NOT release his verse on Still I Rise? That makes no sense, considering that more verses from Pac are bound to increase sales and improve the album's quality.

The idea that the verse was written for Napoleon seems bogus to me, since the OG version has "needing a father" and Napoleon's version has "needing my parents," which makes sense, since Napoleon's parents were murdered. If Pac were writing for Napoleon the way he wrote for Hammer or Snoop Dogg, he would adopt their characters and not rap as though he were talking about his own life ("needing a father").

Whats the song pac wrote for snoop?
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: dnjp4life on February 05, 2015, 01:53:44 AM
If it's so obviously Pac on the U Can Be Touched original version, why would the Outlawz NOT release his verse on Still I Rise? That makes no sense, considering that more verses from Pac are bound to increase sales and improve the album's quality.

The idea that the verse was written for Napoleon seems bogus to me, since the OG version has "needing a father" and Napoleon's version has "needing my parents," which makes sense, since Napoleon's parents were murdered. If Pac were writing for Napoleon the way he wrote for Hammer or Snoop Dogg, he would adopt their characters and not rap as though he were talking about his own life ("needing a father").

Whats the song pac wrote for snoop?

This Ain't Livin', although Snoop never did put down vocals for it.
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: aerroc on February 05, 2015, 09:04:01 AM
it's 2pac rapping, not tha realest! any real fan should know and hear. 

Like I said, I'm on the fence on the matter. The line "five fingers on the forty-five chrome" sounds like it has a little bit of Realest's southern twang and slightly deeper voice.

playa cards right male, where u been and u can be touched are examples of DAT errors on songs. The realest put vocals on this track, confirmed by producer D harp. anyone who cant accept that fact needs their ears cleaned. lol.

its more common than people think.

I've heard that interview you did with Darryl Harper and never did he told specifically Tha Realest is rapping on "U Can Be Touched" - if he did that verse, it would be his greatest 2Pac impersonation EVER and never did he came close to that level, even tho he tried hard.

If his vocals were featured on that track you could tell, just like they were on that "clean versions" of "Life Goes On" + "Troublesome '98" and people noticed it right away.

jmix is a way more reliable source then your retarded ass will ever be :D
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 31, 2015, 01:26:45 PM
whats wrong with meitek?
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: CORREA on March 31, 2015, 02:39:20 PM
Jmix, perhaps you could ask Napoleon what the deal with this song was in your next interview with him?

no point all the wacklawz do is lie
maybe a producer has the answer or maybe the hook man  ;)
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on March 31, 2015, 02:39:30 PM
That Daryl Harper interview didn't make sense.. how is an interviewer going to not ask the follow up question of, "which songs"?  Or... what words exactly? I mean that is an extraordinary claim for Harper to make and then not back up with any shred of examples or evidence...

So until I hear a name and song title, I am gonna assume every song is Pac's, except the possibility of maybe one word being said being said by the realest, like maybe he said "Death Row" or "My Niggaz" or some filler word that accidentally got cut
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 31, 2015, 02:40:58 PM
Jmix, perhaps you could ask Napoleon what the deal with this song was in your next interview with him?

no point all the wacklawz do is lie
maybe a producer has the answer or maybe the hook man  ;)

fatal doesn't lie


i've seen Kastro do it before but he's gone now anyway
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: CORREA on March 31, 2015, 03:50:18 PM
Jmix, perhaps you could ask Napoleon what the deal with this song was in your next interview with him?

no point all the wacklawz do is lie
maybe a producer has the answer or maybe the hook man  ;)

fatal doesn't lie



i've seen Kastro do it before but he's gone now anyway


if hes going to do music with pac biters hes full of shit in my book
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 31, 2015, 04:16:11 PM
u talkin about Ja rule?  fatal knew him before he was famous
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: CORREA on March 31, 2015, 04:28:32 PM
u talkin about Ja rule?  fatal knew him before he was famous


https://www.youtube.com/v/UPoVqwCpk9w


https://www.youtube.com/v/sMBz-pre0iA
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 31, 2015, 05:13:01 PM
never knew this guy existed but yeah he's got no originality to him at all


fatal killed those tracks though  8)
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:01:18 AM
never knew this guy existed but yeah he's got no originality to him at all


fatal killed those tracks though  8)

u never heard of kasinova?
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 01, 2015, 09:29:47 AM
never

he popular?
Title: Re: 2pac - U Can Be Touched: Some Mysteries about this Song
Post by: Sccit on April 01, 2015, 01:30:49 PM
never

he popular?


he's pretty known as the biggest pac biter....sounds more like 2pac than any1 else, to the point where some ficcaz were even speculating that it's pac rapping under a lowkey alias.