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Title: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 03, 2015, 10:08:42 PM
I think Pac knew Fatal was the best rapper in the Outlawz. Pac loved Kadafi more, cuz they grew up together, and most fans rate Kadafi the highest because he's dead, but Fatal has superior skills. Fatal went toe-to-toe with Pac on a lot of tracks (As the World Turns, Untouchable, Reincarnated), delivering verses that were as good as Pac's.

The Outlawz ranked correctly:

1. Hussein Fatal
2. Yaki Kadafi
3. Young Noble
4. EDI
5. Napoleon
6. Kastro

If Syke and Mopreme were included, they'd belong either before or after EDI. I'm pretty sure this list is the most accurate ranking of the Outlawz' skills. Napoleon would be ranked higher if he stopped rapping in 1996 (his verse on the recently leaked Lil Homes is dope as fuck).
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: aerroc on February 03, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
I think Pac knew Fatal was the best rapper in the Outlawz. Pac loved Kadafi more, cuz they grew up together, and most fans rate Kadafi the highest because he's dead, but Fatal has superior skills. Fatal went toe-to-toe with Pac on a lot of tracks (As the World Turns, Untouchable, Reincarnated), delivering verses that were as good as Pac's.

The Outlawz ranked correctly:

1. Hussein Fatal
2. Yaki Kadafi
3. Young Noble
4. EDI
5. Napoleon
6. Kastro

If Syke and Mopreme were included, they'd belong either before or after EDI. I'm pretty sure this list is the most accurate ranking of the Outlawz' skills. Napoleon would be ranked higher if he stopped rapping in 1996 (his verse on the recently leaked Lil Homes is dope as fuck).

i don't care whose the best wacklaw they all suck they have been an insult to 2pac
pac had a good things planned for these wacklawz but after pac died they just fell the fuck off this world and making music with pacs enemy's and pac impersonators
fatalveli ed don come on they cant make a song with out biting pac smh fuck em
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: snipes on February 04, 2015, 08:22:05 AM
Thats like being the best runner at the special olympics...
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Blood$ on February 04, 2015, 08:30:55 AM
Thats like being the best runner at the special olympics...

LOL

Fatal and EDI were the only decent members to me anyway
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Mietek23 on February 04, 2015, 09:33:27 AM
i don't care whose the best wacklaw they all suck they have been an insult to 2pac
pac had a good things planned for these wacklawz but after pac died they just fell the fuck off this world and making music with pacs enemy's and pac impersonators
fatalveli ed don come on they cant make a song with out biting pac smh fuck em

Hey faggot, aren't you the one who was dickriding one of those "pac impersonators" for years begging for unreleased tracks?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 04, 2015, 09:34:50 AM
i don't care whose the best wacklaw they all suck they have been an insult to 2pac
pac had a good things planned for these wacklawz but after pac died they just fell the fuck off this world and making music with pacs enemy's and pac impersonators
fatalveli ed don come on they cant make a song with out biting pac smh fuck em

Hey faggot, aren't you the one who was dickriding one of those "pac impersonators" for years begging for unreleased tracks?

yes he was
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: bouli77 on February 04, 2015, 10:09:19 AM
Thats like being the best runner at the special olympics...

LOL

Fatal and EDI were the only decent members to me anyway

kadafi too.

how can you rate Young Noble #3, MobNigga ?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: S.J on February 04, 2015, 10:16:53 AM
I always thought Fatal was the best then Kadafi. The best members either died or left the group. I'd put Big Syke, Mopreme and Storm ahead of Young Noble, Napoleon, Edi and Kastro
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 04, 2015, 10:24:06 AM
the best outlawz are


2pac
Fatal   (check out his debut album In The Line Of Fire, it's a classic)
Kadafi
Kastro (Dramacydal - Novakane)
Big Syke
Young Noble
Napoleon
Mopreme
Storm
EDI  
Kastro  (after Novakane when he changed his voice and delivery)


all the Outlawz have their moments.  the only ones to ever outshine 2pac on anything are Fatal on "Initiated" and Kadafi and Fatal both on "Money Over Bitches"



the only Outlawz I've never heard a good solo song by are Edi and Kastro
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 04, 2015, 10:31:22 AM
Thats like being the best runner at the special olympics...

LOL

Fatal and EDI were the only decent members to me anyway

kadafi too.

how can you rate Young Noble #3, MobNigga ?

Noble is possibly the most consistent of all the Outlawz. He's probably the best song-writer in the Outlawz, one of the only members capable of writing coherent solo tracks. His collaboration albums with Stic.Man, Layzie Bone, Fatal, and Lil Flip are all pretty solid releases, especially the ones with Stic.Man and Fatal. Noble gets hated on a lot, but if you listen to these albums, you gotta respect the man's hustle and his musicianship.

People shouldn't hate on the Outlawz so much. Pac picked most of them for a reason, because he recognized they were good. Kastro might have been the result of nepotism and Napoleon was sort of Pac's adopted child, but the others were people who Pac thought were dope rappers.
 
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: aerroc on February 04, 2015, 10:46:28 AM
Thats like being the best runner at the special olympics...

LOL

Fatal and EDI were the only decent members to me anyway

kadafi too.

how can you rate Young Noble #3, MobNigga ?

Noble is possibly the most consistent of all the Outlawz. He's probably the best song-writer in the Outlawz, one of the only members capable of writing coherent solo tracks. His collaboration albums with Stic.Man, Layzie Bone, Fatal, and Lil Flip are all pretty solid releases, especially the ones with Stic.Man and Fatal. Noble gets hated on a lot, but if you listen to these albums, you gotta respect the man's hustle and his musicianship.

People shouldn't hate on the Outlawz so much. Pac picked most of them for a reason, because he recognized they were good. Kastro might have been the result of nepotism and Napoleon was sort of Pac's adopted child, but the others were people who Pac thought were dope rappers.
 

picked by pac and did more to ruin pacs legacy than any good and ruined songs too
old noble sux
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 04, 2015, 10:55:13 AM
Thats like being the best runner at the special olympics...

LOL

Fatal and EDI were the only decent members to me anyway

kadafi too.

how can you rate Young Noble #3, MobNigga ?

Noble is possibly the most consistent of all the Outlawz. He's probably the best song-writer in the Outlawz, one of the only members capable of writing coherent solo tracks. His collaboration albums with Stic.Man, Layzie Bone, Fatal, and Lil Flip are all pretty solid releases, especially the ones with Stic.Man and Fatal. Noble gets hated on a lot, but if you listen to these albums, you gotta respect the man's hustle and his musicianship.

People shouldn't hate on the Outlawz so much. Pac picked most of them for a reason, because he recognized they were good. Kastro might have been the result of nepotism and Napoleon was sort of Pac's adopted child, but the others were people who Pac thought were dope rappers.
 


Fatal makes the best solo songs, always has and always will.  His first solo is a classic.  the second one on Rap a lot was solid as well.  he's still dropping solid songs nowadays too.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: papa-smurf on February 04, 2015, 11:06:25 AM
Fatal was the best & teh realest outlaw. Pac knew fatal was the rider & the best lyricist & fatal was the one who had the most street cred.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Blood$ on February 04, 2015, 11:36:42 AM
i don't care whose the best wacklaw they all suck they have been an insult to 2pac
pac had a good things planned for these wacklawz but after pac died they just fell the fuck off this world and making music with pacs enemy's and pac impersonators
fatalveli ed don come on they cant make a song with out biting pac smh fuck em

Hey faggot, aren't you the one who was dickriding one of those "pac impersonators" for years begging for unreleased tracks?

yes he was

notice how he's dodging that post lol the truth hurts
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Outlaw Tay 187 on February 04, 2015, 12:37:52 PM
lmao if you think Fatal is wack then something is wrong with you.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: BIGWORM on February 04, 2015, 03:18:42 PM
Fatal was the only Outlaw I could stand. Plus his first solo album was a banger.......
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Eddz on February 04, 2015, 04:16:26 PM
I always liked Napoleon the best.

I think the Outlawz get a lot of unnecessary hate. My biggest issue is the beats they use, a lot of poor production but overall they have been a pretty solid group.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 04, 2015, 04:27:56 PM
i don't care whose the best wacklaw they all suck they have been an insult to 2pac
pac had a good things planned for these wacklawz but after pac died they just fell the fuck off this world and making music with pacs enemy's and pac impersonators
fatalveli ed don come on they cant make a song with out biting pac smh fuck em

Hey faggot, aren't you the one who was dickriding one of those "pac impersonators" for years begging for unreleased tracks?


correa never did answer you
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Blood$ on February 04, 2015, 05:39:12 PM
I think the Outlawz get a lot of unnecessary hate. My biggest issue is the beats they use, a lot of poor production

I can agree with this, I never wrote them off as anything 'wack' but they were just so regularly average lol

then again I don't think I've heard any of their albums except for whatever Rap-A-Lot released, Outlaw 4 Life, and the last one that dropped that had Z-Ro and Trae on it
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Black Excellence on February 04, 2015, 05:41:11 PM
Fatal was the only Outlaw I could stand. Plus his first solo album was a banger.......
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 04, 2015, 06:17:02 PM
I think the Outlawz get a lot of unnecessary hate. My biggest issue is the beats they use, a lot of poor production

I can agree with this, I never wrote them off as anything 'wack' but they were just so regularly average lol

then again I don't think I've heard any of their albums except for whatever Rap-A-Lot released, Outlaw 4 Life, and the last one that dropped that had Z-Ro and Trae on it

go listen to Fatal "In the Line of Fire"


classic
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 04, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Outlawz recently have been making music that Pac would be proud of.

Listen to Paranoid f/ Z-Ro and Trae. That's a song that Pac would fuck with. He'd like that shit and probably spit a dope verse to it.

Cocaine, Pushin On, and Borrowed Time are other recent tracks that are great music.

Outlawz's music has generally gotten better with time. Some of the early albums like Ride Wit Us or Collide With Us were full of shitty tracks, bad beats, and mediocre verses. In contrast, Perfect Timing has nothing but solid music on it - that's an album that you can listen to from beginning to end without skipping a track.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 04, 2015, 09:33:36 PM
Noble is underrated because he wasn't that great in 1996. He had a few decent verses back then, but Fatal and Yak were way more advanced than him, which makes sense, since he was just starting out. It's crazy to think that Noble's first recorded verses were on a multi-platinum album, with virtually nothing created before then.

Since 1996, Noble has proven himself to be the Outlaw with the most work ethic and the most dedication to his craft. His skills at beat selection and verse writing are obvious on all of his solo and collab albums.  
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: dnjp4life on February 05, 2015, 02:02:30 AM
I always liked Napoleon the best.

Yeah me too.  I've always liked his voice, and his flow on his verse on 'When We Ride' has always stood out to me when I listen to that song.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Blood$ on February 05, 2015, 08:01:07 AM
Noble was cool on "Fucked Up World" with Trae and Z-Ro too, that song was all around a dope Pac revamp
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Mietek23 on February 05, 2015, 08:38:13 AM
i don't care whose the best wacklaw they all suck they have been an insult to 2pac
pac had a good things planned for these wacklawz but after pac died they just fell the fuck off this world and making music with pacs enemy's and pac impersonators
fatalveli ed don come on they cant make a song with out biting pac smh fuck em

Hey faggot, aren't you the one who was dickriding one of those "pac impersonators" for years begging for unreleased tracks?

yes he was

notice how he's dodging that post lol the truth hurts

indeed, but what possibly could this moron said to this that didn't had him look even more retarded?


correa never did answer you

I know :) it was a rhetorical question tho ;)
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: aerroc on February 05, 2015, 08:58:11 AM
i don't care whose the best wacklaw they all suck they have been an insult to 2pac
pac had a good things planned for these wacklawz but after pac died they just fell the fuck off this world and making music with pacs enemy's and pac impersonators
fatalveli ed don come on they cant make a song with out biting pac smh fuck em

Hey faggot, aren't you the one who was dickriding one of those "pac impersonators" for years begging for unreleased tracks?

yes he was

notice how he's dodging that post lol the truth hurts

indeed, but what possibly could this moron said to this that didn't had him look even more retarded?


correa never did answer you

I know :) it was a rhetorical question tho ;)

hey irrelevant fuck i can keep this going for months if i want lol
best thing for you is to move forward with your bullshit and continue to promote washed up nobody's cause any post you make on any topic i will be there 
ball is on your court kobe
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Eddz on February 05, 2015, 03:42:14 PM
This tread has made me want to go back & listen to thier albums. Ride Wit Us or Collide With Us is a solid album same with the Rap a Lot album. Blood Brothers the EDI & Kastro album is slept on too, album is great.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 05, 2015, 03:59:11 PM
This tread has made me want to go back & listen to thier albums. Ride Wit Us or Collide With Us is a solid album same with the Rap a Lot album. Blood Brothers the EDI & Kastro album is slept on too, album is great.

listen to Fatal's debut
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: MOBNigga06 on February 05, 2015, 05:31:32 PM
This tread has made me want to go back & listen to thier albums. Ride Wit Us or Collide With Us is a solid album same with the Rap a Lot album. Blood Brothers the EDI & Kastro album is slept on too, album is great.

What caused me to start this thread was watching the Outlawz Worldwide DVD and then listening to many of their earlier albums for the first time in years. I'm the type of 2Pac fan who can proudly state that I've purchased basically every release from the Outlawz, solo-projects and collaborations included. To me, every release contains at least a few excellent songs, though some albums are more consistent than others. Novakane was one of the most solid, in my opinion. Noble killed that Boxspring Boogie joint, same with Redbull & Vodka.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Sccit on February 05, 2015, 05:37:07 PM
you got the noble and layzie bone collab album?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Eddz on February 05, 2015, 10:13:35 PM
you got the noble and layzie bone collab album?

I just finished downloading it but I can't find Young Noble's solos anywhere.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Eddz on February 05, 2015, 10:14:57 PM
This tread has made me want to go back & listen to thier albums. Ride Wit Us or Collide With Us is a solid album same with the Rap a Lot album. Blood Brothers the EDI & Kastro album is slept on too, album is great.

listen to Fatal's debut

Yeah I'll be checking this out again in the next day or two.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: mastdark81 on February 06, 2015, 12:12:21 PM
I think Pac knew Fatal was the best rapper in the Outlawz. Pac loved Kadafi more, cuz they grew up together, and most fans rate Kadafi the highest because he's dead, but Fatal has superior skills. Fatal went toe-to-toe with Pac on a lot of tracks (As the World Turns, Untouchable, Reincarnated), delivering verses that were as good as Pac's.

The Outlawz ranked correctly:

1. Hussein Fatal
2. Yaki Kadafi
3. Young Noble
4. EDI
5. Napoleon
6. Kastro

If Syke and Mopreme were included, they'd belong either before or after EDI. I'm pretty sure this list is the most accurate ranking of the Outlawz' skills. Napoleon would be ranked higher if he stopped rapping in 1996 (his verse on the recently leaked Lil Homes is dope as fuck).

Gotta go with
1.  Yaki Kadafi - I always liked his style and flow, if he still would have been living I thought he had the best potential.
2. Fatal - When I first heard the Outlawz Fatal was my fav of the bunch but to me he somewhat have a lower ceiling than Kadafi...could be wrong but thats my impression.  I think he would be the 2pac of the group if they held together...like someone else said Fatal was more street than those other ones and had the more dominant personality.
3. Storm - yall forgot about her...Storm use to spit, like a pac type flow.  I would think 2pac must have been writing some of her lyrics, but who knows.
4.  Gonzoe - yall forgot about Gonzoe too.  He was officially in the group but after Pac died I think he kinda left and did his things.  He might be the best one currently, as I've heard him spit some real hard shit on some Regime Yukmouth related tracks a few years back.
3.  Young Noble - Good rap group type of guy but I doubt he could hold a whole album by himself and shine.  He alright though and come nice once every 4 tracks.
4.  Napoleon - Was alright.  I remember a few lines but wasn't good enough to ride on his own.
5.  Edi - I almost should put Edi above Napoleon said I think he was more musically versed but he just had some horrible flows and lyrics to me. Think he made beats.
5. Kastro - Was just riding along lol.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: mastdark81 on February 06, 2015, 12:12:48 PM
How yall forget Storm and Gonzoe?
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Mietek23 on February 07, 2015, 02:07:51 AM
I just finished downloading it but I can't find Young Noble's solos anywhere.

They ain't good bro, go listen to Noble/Fatal and Noble/EDI collabo albums, they're much better.



hey irrelevant fuck i can keep this going for months if i want lol
best thing for you is to move forward with your bullshit and continue to promote washed up nobody's cause any post you make on any topic i will be there 
ball is on your court kobe

First of all weirdo, you started all this bullshit dissing me for no apparent reason in numerous threads and now if you want start backpedaling I suggest the best thing for you is just simply shut the fuck up and keep my name out your mouth.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 07, 2015, 09:53:35 AM
How yall forget Storm and Gonzoe?

gonzoe doesn't count
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 07, 2015, 11:56:45 AM
You know, one thing that I didn't like about Kadafi was how he kept going on when he'd rap his last bar.  He didn't end his verses as well as he could've... i.e. Hit 'Em Up, Late Night.
Title: Re: Hussein Fatal was and is the best rapper in the Outlawz
Post by: CORREA on February 08, 2015, 02:57:28 AM
I just finished downloading it but I can't find Young Noble's solos anywhere.

They ain't good bro, go listen to Noble/Fatal and Noble/EDI collabo albums, they're much better.



hey irrelevant fuck i can keep this going for months if i want lol
best thing for you is to move forward with your bullshit and continue to promote washed up nobody's cause any post you make on any topic i will be there 
ball is on your court kobe

First of all weirdo, you started all this bullshit dissing me for no apparent reason in numerous threads and now if you want start backpedaling I suggest the best thing for you is just simply shut the fuck up and keep my name out your mouth.

fuck you you started this shit with your bullshit
nobody backpedaling lame ass