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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite on June 15, 2025, 10:24:48 AM
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Just startin in on both of these new releases in this week. What ya’ll think? Daz definitely opening his album way harder than X
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Just startin in on both of these new releases in this week. What ya’ll think? Daz definitely opening his album way harder than X
If Daz album production wouldn’t so flat mastered it would be better then Kingmaker.
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Lol Kingmaker is 10 times the better album. Not even close.
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Lol Kingmaker is 10 times the better album. Not even close.
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if you'd ask daz's RRGB2 or ...
i would stop you before you name the other one and my answer would be "other one".
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Daz, by far. Loving it
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Daz, by far. Loving it
I get music is subjective but I genuinely can't believe anyone can possibly think this Daz album is better than Kingmaker.
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I get music is subjective but I genuinely can't believe anyone can possibly think this Daz album is better than Kingmaker.
Daz album is better.
I know, I was surprised too because RAW is the last Daz album I seriously bumped in my ride, and even that album had a lot of filler but the bangers were enough to keep in rotation.
Being a nostalgic guy who is still stuck in 96’ slapping a “2” next to your album is a good way to get my attention. It worked on me with MMLP2 and works with this album, because I was the biggest fan of RRGB in the entire Midwest and even did a full YouTube review on the album, its promotion, release, reception, and track by track.
Daz really did get inspiration from the o.g RRGB album and that was enough to lift his spirits and outdo Xzibit. Like the great Cus D’Amato said “every aging champion has one last great fight left in him” well Napalm was Xzibits last great fight and this was Daz showing he was once a champ to.
Don’t get carried away RRGB2 isn’t a classic or even a near classic; my only claim here is that it’s better than KingMaker.
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haven't heard X's album yet but I do like Daz's
not sure if its as good as Dazamataz but its much better than anything more recent he put out
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haven't heard X's album yet but I do like Daz's
not sure if its as good as Dazamataz but its much better than anything more recent he put out
Damn homie check out Xzibit right quick and then place your vote. Not an Xzibit fan? As for Dazmataz, You may be right I never gave Dazamataz much chance… so for me it’s…
1. RRGB - flawless classic death Row mid 90’s gold standard that failed to even go “gold”
2. RAW - a lot of filler but the bangers sounded damn good in car stereo
3. RRGB2 - slap a 2 on your album 💿 and you get 4 mics from Infinite on GP
I’m sure there’s probably another Daz album since RAW that I slept on, but naming this one “2” made it certain I wasn’t gonna sleep on the album and was gonna give it a fair shot, it also didn’t hurt that the opener was fire 🔥.
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neva liked Xzibit music , but he s a cool guy .
i m go with DAZ , no competition
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No one notice Prince Ital Joe who is dead, since his car accident in 98, that somehow Prince Ital Joe is on Daz's album?
https://open.spotify.com/track/1E9idwduTeJbz8NYjPL8nL?si=e011d2d7c2d246a1
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Kingmaker >> RRGB 2
RRGB 2 has a bunch of semi-vintage Death Row moments which I like but still has the music too West Coast or modern in terms of beats. It's half like; half dislike for me in terms of RRGB.
King Maker to me is more like Detox and that one person who said the platinum titanium sound is all over Kingmaker; I agree but to me it sounds good - not the West Coast usual key structure.
Daz still raps with heart, but the more listenable album is Kingmaker.
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Daz album is better.
I know, I was surprised too because RAW is the last Daz album I seriously bumped in my ride, and even that album had a lot of filler but the bangers were enough to keep in rotation.
Being a nostalgic guy who is still stuck in 96’ slapping a “2” next to your album is a good way to get my attention. It worked on me with MMLP2 and works with this album, because I was the biggest fan of RRGB in the entire Midwest and even did a full YouTube review on the album, its promotion, release, reception, and track by track.
Daz really did get inspiration from the o.g RRGB album and that was enough to lift his spirits and outdo Xzibit. Like the great Cus D’Amato said “every aging champion has one last great fight left in him” well Napalm was Xzibits last great fight and this was Daz showing he was once a champ to.
Don’t get carried away RRGB2 isn’t a classic or even a near classic; my only claim here is that it’s better than KingMaker.
You don’t like This is the Life I lead ??
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Damn homie check out Xzibit right quick and then place your vote. Not an Xzibit fan? As for Dazmataz, You may be right I never gave Dazamataz much chance… so for me it’s…
1. RRGB - flawless classic death Row mid 90’s gold standard that failed to even go “gold”
2. RAW - a lot of filler but the bangers sounded damn good in car stereo
3. RRGB2 - slap a 2 on your album 💿 and you get 4 mics from Infinite on GP
I’m sure there’s probably another Daz album since RAW that I slept on, but naming this one “2” made it certain I wasn’t gonna sleep on the album and was gonna give it a fair shot, it also didn’t hurt that the opener was fire 🔥.
no I'm definitely a fan of Xzibit but I'm more of a Daz/Kurupt/DPG fan as far as music goes
I will definitely listen to it though and vote afterwards
here is a positive review on Daz album
I agree with the rating 8/10
https://undergroundhiphopblog.com/albums/daz-dillingers-21st-album-retaliation-revenge-and-get-back-2-takes-it-back-to-the-essence-of-his-solo-debut-album-review/
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After first listen I like Daz better
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Death Row NMatez
Retaliation & Revenge
Get Bacc
Start Bacc Bangin'
We Came to Play
Dope records. I don't really care for anything else.
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Death Row NMatez
Retaliation & Revenge
Get Bacc
Start Bacc Bangin'
We Came to Play
Dope records. I don't really care for anything else.
Yeah “Get Bacc” is dope it’s got the same sample as DOC’s hit, and somehow Ital Joe is there too
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Yeah “Get Bacc” is dope it’s got the same sample as DOC’s hit, and somehow Ital Joe is there too
Agree! Daz's album is much better than X's. Still not as good as Dazamataz, but it's nice to hear Ital Joe, Lil C Style and the OG Death Row Inmates. Disappointed Mac Shawn 100 is only on interludes and didn't rap, but it's still cool Daz reached into the wayback machine and got some people on here who we haven't heard from in a while.....including Michael Jackson lol Oh and Kevin Slow Jammin James! Brings me back to the days of hearing Smooth on my Dogg Food CD.
RBX sounds great on here, much better than his own recent album where he was slurring his words and struggling to keep on the beat. Might've been older vocals used.
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finished hearing X to tha Zs album
imo some nice tracks but overall nothing as memorable as "Get Bacc" and "Death Row Nmates"
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RBX sounds great on here, much better than his own recent album where he was slurring his words and struggling to keep on the beat.
this is how i know u didn't listen to RBX album in full
his verse on that track comes nowhere close to his verse on midnight drive, nightstalker, devils deep, or the shivers
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You don’t like This is the Life I lead ??
he said he didn't listen to it in the post you're quoting
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No one notice Prince Ital Joe who is dead, since his car accident in 98, that somehow Prince Ital Joe is on Daz's album?
https://open.spotify.com/track/1E9idwduTeJbz8NYjPL8nL?si=e011d2d7c2d246a1
I noticed it, and I also noticed that it sounds a bit off too (like the MJ sample). But people crying about old Lil C-Style or other songs being recorded lol.
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this is how i know u didn't listen to RBX album in full
his verse on that track comes nowhere close to his verse on midnight drive, nightstalker, devils deep, or the shivers
I can assure you I did homie, always give your stuff a shot. That's what's great about music, everyone's taste is different, hence why there's 2+ pages of people debating Daz vs Xzibit's album. I'm happy you liked RBX's verses on his album, i would hope so since you had a hand in it (giving you a biased opinion, just like i'm sure Dre will defend every song on Missionary even though most of us thought it fell short). I personally liked his verse on Daz's album better. All good man, no need to accuse me of something or insinuate i didn't even listen to a song i'm critiquing, putting my reputation in question...not cool. I'm giving RBX his flowers, which you had been promoting on here for the last year, that RBX still has it and hadn't lost it. There's no right or wrong answers here, only personal taste and my nonbiased opinion.
You should be happy people thought favorably of RBX's verse on Daz's album. For a new listener just discovering RBX, might lead them to want to purchase his solo album by your crew, thus increasing sales and giving you more exposure for your label. Not sure why the hostility in the reply to my post, or the super defensiveness....like I said, you should be thrilled more people are discovering RBX, the more high quality dope verses he can drop on other projects can only help you and your team.
People said the same thing about Nate Dogg, that he always sounded better on other people's stuff than his own albums, and I agree. Same thing with RBX. I have RBX Files, The Narrator, and No Mercy/No Remorse and I never liked them as much as his guest spots on the Chronic and Snoop and Warren G and Eastcoast/Westcoast Killaz, and other guest spots. Nothing wrong with that. Being looked at in the same light as Nate Dogg is a good thing homie.
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I can assure you I did homie, always give your stuff a shot. That's what's great about music, everyone's taste is different, hence why there's 2+ pages of people debating Daz vs Xzibit's album. I'm happy you liked RBX's verses on his album, i would hope so since you had a hand in it (giving you a biased opinion, just like i'm sure Dre will defend every song on Missionary even though most of us thought it fell short). I personally liked his verse on Daz's album better. All good man, no need to accuse me of something or insinuate i didn't even listen to a song i'm critiquing, putting my reputation in question...not cool. I'm giving RBX his flowers, which you had been promoting on here for the last year, that RBX still has it and hadn't lost it. There's no right or wrong answers here, only personal taste and my nonbiased opinion.
You should be happy people thought favorably of RBX's verse on Daz's album. For a new listener just discovering RBX, might lead them to want to purchase his solo album by your crew, thus increasing sales and giving you more exposure for your label. Not sure the hostility in the reply to my post, like I said, you should be thrilled more people are discovering RBX, the more high quality dope verses he can drop on other projects can only help you and your team.
People said the same thing about Nate Dogg, that he always sounded better on other people's stuff than his own albums, and I agree. Same thing with RBX. I have RBX Files, The Narrator, and No Mercy/No Remorse and I never liked them as much as his guest spots on the Chronic and Snoop and Warren G and Eastcoast/Westcoast Killaz, and other guest spots. Nothing wrong with that. Being looked at in the same light as Nate Dogg is a good thing homie.
i'm just giving u insight since i was around rbx during this entire run he's had of late .. there's nothing different on his verse for daz's album, it's the same typa lines & flow he been usin .. in fact, for his own album, we actually had him redo some of his verses because it didn't meet the standard ... all good tho, since u into rbx guest features, here's a new one that dropped today
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VIneJlgZ_kw
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i'm just giving u insight since i was around rbx during this entire run he's had of late .. there's nothing different on his verse for daz's album, it's the same typa lines & flow he been usin .. in fact, for his own album, we actually had him redo some of his verses because it didn't meet the standard ... all good tho, since u into rbx guest features, here's a new one that dropped today
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VIneJlgZ_kw
Appreciate it. I hate to say this, because i don't necessarily believe it, but if you are insistent that his flow and cadence are the exact same between the two albums, then my only other theory is that Daz put better production up under the vocals. I didn't want to say it, because i know you are directly involved with that aspect of RBXs album, but it's either the vocalist or the producer that causes a subpar song. So, if you're adament that it wasn't RBX, then i have to point to the producer......
To the conversation about guest appearance vs. albums, i think with RBX (and Nate Dogg) is that he has a certain style and cadence which sounds great on a song in smaller doses. A verse here, a verse there. Something to break up the sound of a song. But when it's an entire album of that sort of style, kind of loses its specialness and exposes some of the weaknesses in that style. Oh, just thought of this, Prince Ital Joe is another good example. When he comes in on a chorus, or an intro or outro, sounds great and really contributes to the song. But his entire album of his ramblings with his heavy Jamaican accent, wasn't even listenable to me.
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If Daz album production wouldn’t so flat mastered it would be better then Kingmaker.
Agree. Love Daz but his mixes are small. Fatten some of them up and there's no contest
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Appreciate it. I hate to say this, because i don't necessarily believe it, but if you are insistent that his flow and cadence are the exact same between the two albums, then my only other theory is that Daz put better production up under the vocals. I didn't want to say it, because i know you are directly involved with that aspect of RBXs album, but it's either the vocalist or the producer that causes a subpar song. So, if you're adament that it wasn't RBX, then i have to point to the producer......
To the conversation about guest appearance vs. albums, i think with RBX (and Nate Dogg) is that he has a certain style and cadence which sounds great on a song in smaller doses. A verse here, a verse there. Something to break up the sound of a song. But when it's an entire album of that sort of style, kind of loses its specialness and exposes some of the weaknesses in that style. Oh, just thought of this, Prince Ital Joe is another good example. When he comes in on a chorus, or an intro or outro, sounds great and really contributes to the song. But his entire album of his ramblings with his heavy Jamaican accent, wasn't even listenable to me.
def not production either .. especially considering we worked directly with the likes of big hutch, glove, jellyroll etc on the production, who are all better producers on the technical side of things than daz (that's why he's gettin shit for the mixing on the new album) .. then consider we had our work mastered by big bass, who is the industry standard .. daz usin low budget mastering engineers nowadays .. all part of production
to each his own, but most people not hearin what u hearin .. sadly, what ive heard is cats sayin rbx had the worst verse on the song and that it didn't live up to his solo effort
i get what u sayin about some artists sound better in small doses tho .. and x has had some of his best verses come in guest appearances
but at the end of the day, i truly believe he has a very underrated and overlooked solo catalogue
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I thought RBX's verse on "Deathrow N-Mates" was a bit of a letdown and sounded like he phoned it in, he sounded better on his own solo album.
RBX's two first albums are classic, No Mercy/No Remorse is very underrated.
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I thought RBX's verse on "Deathrow N-Mates" was a bit of a letdown and sounded like he phoned it in, he sounded better on his own solo album.
RBX's two first albums are classic, No Mercy/No Remorse is very underrated.
i agree that his first two are severely underrated