Xzibit - KingMaker vs Daz RRGB2

[Duck Duck Doggy]

After first listen I like Daz better

[WCThang]

Death Row NMatez
Retaliation & Revenge
Get Bacc
Start Bacc Bangin'
We Came to Play

Dope records. I don't really care for anything else.

[TraceOneInfinite]

Death Row NMatez
Retaliation & Revenge
Get Bacc
 Start Bacc Bangin'
We Came to Play

Dope records. I don't really care for anything else.

Yeah “Get Bacc” is dope it’s got the same sample as DOC’s hit, and somehow Ital Joe is there too

[Soopafly DPGC]

Yeah “Get Bacc” is dope it’s got the same sample as DOC’s hit, and somehow Ital Joe is there too

Agree!  Daz's album is much better than X's.  Still not as good as Dazamataz, but it's nice to hear Ital Joe, Lil C Style and the OG Death Row Inmates.  Disappointed Mac Shawn 100 is only on interludes and didn't rap, but it's still cool Daz reached into the wayback machine and got some people on here who we haven't heard from in a while.....including Michael Jackson lol  Oh and Kevin Slow Jammin James!  Brings me back to the days of hearing Smooth on my Dogg Food CD. 

RBX sounds great on here, much better than his own recent album where he was slurring his words and struggling to keep on the beat.  Might've been older vocals used. 

[HighEyeCue]

finished hearing X to tha Zs album

imo some nice tracks but overall nothing as memorable as "Get Bacc" and "Death Row Nmates"

[Sccit]

RBX sounds great on here, much better than his own recent album where he was slurring his words and struggling to keep on the beat. 

this is how i know u didn't listen to RBX album in full

his verse on that track comes nowhere close to his verse on midnight drive, nightstalker, devils deep, or the shivers

[Sccit]

You don’t like This is the Life I lead ??

he said he didn't listen to it in the post you're quoting

[www.ClintDogg.com]

No one notice Prince Ital Joe who is dead, since his car accident in 98, that somehow Prince Ital Joe is on Daz's album?

https://open.spotify.com/track/1E9idwduTeJbz8NYjPL8nL?si=e011d2d7c2d246a1

I noticed it, and I also noticed that it sounds a bit off too (like the MJ sample). But people crying about old Lil C-Style or other songs being recorded lol.

[Soopafly DPGC]

this is how i know u didn't listen to RBX album in full

his verse on that track comes nowhere close to his verse on midnight drive, nightstalker, devils deep, or the shivers

I can assure you I did homie, always give your stuff a shot.  That's what's great about music, everyone's taste is different, hence why there's 2+ pages of people debating Daz vs Xzibit's album.  I'm happy you liked RBX's verses on his album, i would hope so since you had a hand in it (giving you a biased opinion, just like i'm sure Dre will defend every song on Missionary even though most of us thought it fell short).  I personally liked his verse on Daz's album better.  All good man, no need to accuse me of something or insinuate i didn't even listen to a song i'm critiquing, putting my reputation in question...not cool.  I'm giving RBX his flowers, which you had been promoting on here for the last year, that RBX still has it and hadn't lost it.  There's no right or wrong answers here, only personal taste and my nonbiased opinion.

You should be happy people thought favorably of RBX's verse on Daz's album.  For a new listener just discovering RBX, might lead them to want to purchase his solo album by your crew, thus increasing sales and giving you more exposure for your label.  Not sure why the hostility in the reply to my post, or the super defensiveness....like I said, you should be thrilled more people are discovering RBX, the more high quality dope verses he can drop on other projects can only help you and your team. 

People said the same thing about Nate Dogg, that he always sounded better on other people's stuff than his own albums, and I agree.  Same thing with RBX.  I have RBX Files, The Narrator, and No Mercy/No Remorse and I never liked them as much as his guest spots on the Chronic and Snoop and Warren G and Eastcoast/Westcoast Killaz, and other guest spots.  Nothing wrong with that.  Being looked at in the same light as Nate Dogg is a good thing homie. 

[Sccit]

I can assure you I did homie, always give your stuff a shot.  That's what's great about music, everyone's taste is different, hence why there's 2+ pages of people debating Daz vs Xzibit's album.  I'm happy you liked RBX's verses on his album, i would hope so since you had a hand in it (giving you a biased opinion, just like i'm sure Dre will defend every song on Missionary even though most of us thought it fell short).  I personally liked his verse on Daz's album better.  All good man, no need to accuse me of something or insinuate i didn't even listen to a song i'm critiquing, putting my reputation in question...not cool.  I'm giving RBX his flowers, which you had been promoting on here for the last year, that RBX still has it and hadn't lost it.  There's no right or wrong answers here, only personal taste and my nonbiased opinion.

You should be happy people thought favorably of RBX's verse on Daz's album.  For a new listener just discovering RBX, might lead them to want to purchase his solo album by your crew, thus increasing sales and giving you more exposure for your label.  Not sure the hostility in the reply to my post, like I said, you should be thrilled more people are discovering RBX, the more high quality dope verses he can drop on other projects can only help you and your team. 

People said the same thing about Nate Dogg, that he always sounded better on other people's stuff than his own albums, and I agree.  Same thing with RBX.  I have RBX Files, The Narrator, and No Mercy/No Remorse and I never liked them as much as his guest spots on the Chronic and Snoop and Warren G and Eastcoast/Westcoast Killaz, and other guest spots.  Nothing wrong with that.  Being looked at in the same light as Nate Dogg is a good thing homie.

i'm just giving u insight since i was around rbx during this entire run he's had of late .. there's nothing different on his verse for daz's album, it's the same typa lines & flow he been usin ..  in fact, for his own album, we actually had him redo some of his verses because it didn't meet the standard ... all good tho, since u into rbx guest features, here's a new one that dropped today

[Soopafly DPGC]

i'm just giving u insight since i was around rbx during this entire run he's had of late .. there's nothing different on his verse for daz's album, it's the same typa lines & flow he been usin ..  in fact, for his own album, we actually had him redo some of his verses because it didn't meet the standard ... all good tho, since u into rbx guest features, here's a new one that dropped today

Appreciate it.  I hate to say this, because i don't necessarily believe it, but if you are insistent that his flow and cadence are the exact same between the two albums, then my only other theory is that Daz put better production up under the vocals.  I didn't want to say it, because i know you are directly involved with that aspect of RBXs album, but it's either the vocalist or the producer that causes a subpar song.  So, if you're adament that it wasn't RBX, then i have to point to the producer......

To the conversation about guest appearance vs. albums, i think with RBX (and Nate Dogg) is that he has a certain style and cadence which sounds great on a song in smaller doses.  A verse here, a verse there.  Something to break up the sound of a song.  But when it's an entire album of that sort of style, kind of loses its specialness and exposes some of the weaknesses in that style.  Oh, just thought of this, Prince Ital Joe is another good example.  When he comes in on a chorus, or an intro or outro, sounds great and really contributes to the song.  But his entire album of his ramblings with his heavy Jamaican accent, wasn't even listenable to me.

[D-TalkX]

If Daz album production wouldn’t so flat mastered it would be better then Kingmaker.

Agree. Love Daz but his mixes are small. Fatten some of them up and there's no contest

[Sccit]

Appreciate it.  I hate to say this, because i don't necessarily believe it, but if you are insistent that his flow and cadence are the exact same between the two albums, then my only other theory is that Daz put better production up under the vocals.  I didn't want to say it, because i know you are directly involved with that aspect of RBXs album, but it's either the vocalist or the producer that causes a subpar song.  So, if you're adament that it wasn't RBX, then i have to point to the producer......

To the conversation about guest appearance vs. albums, i think with RBX (and Nate Dogg) is that he has a certain style and cadence which sounds great on a song in smaller doses.  A verse here, a verse there.  Something to break up the sound of a song.  But when it's an entire album of that sort of style, kind of loses its specialness and exposes some of the weaknesses in that style.  Oh, just thought of this, Prince Ital Joe is another good example.  When he comes in on a chorus, or an intro or outro, sounds great and really contributes to the song.  But his entire album of his ramblings with his heavy Jamaican accent, wasn't even listenable to me.

def not production either .. especially considering we worked directly with the likes of big hutch, glove, jellyroll etc on the production, who are all better producers on the technical side of things than daz (that's why he's gettin shit for the mixing on the new album) .. then consider we had our work mastered by big bass, who is the industry standard .. daz usin low budget mastering engineers nowadays .. all part of production



to each his own, but most people not hearin what u hearin .. sadly, what ive heard is cats sayin rbx had the worst verse on the song and that it didn't live up to his solo effort


i get what u sayin about some artists sound better in small doses tho .. and x has had some of his best verses come in guest appearances


but at the end of the day, i truly believe he has a very underrated and overlooked solo catalogue

[Eddz]

I thought RBX's verse on "Deathrow N-Mates" was a bit of a letdown and sounded like he phoned it in, he sounded better on his own solo album.

RBX's two first albums are classic, No Mercy/No Remorse is very underrated.

[Sccit]

I thought RBX's verse on "Deathrow N-Mates" was a bit of a letdown and sounded like he phoned it in, he sounded better on his own solo album.

RBX's two first albums are classic, No Mercy/No Remorse is very underrated.

i agree that his first two are severely underrated