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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: romson19 on December 19, 2025, 06:49:34 AM
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The long awaited album by Suga Free out now on Spotify
https://open.spotify.com/album/6KbSLWQpzu9eV9LXIBL6yW?si=cYHGsvGPQ8SbVT7yZUqdXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVQg05m51Zw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzcDorOX_40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAi066iL3HU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7Jn2DGa8k
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YES!!! IT'S FINALLY OUT!!! I was callin that shit Detox for the past year.
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Not on Apple of course :grumpy:
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Not on Apple of course :grumpy:
Stay tuned
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cd copy?
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Nice!
Looking forward to check this out 8)
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Dope! I'm going to listen to that tomorrow!
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Multiple DJ Quik features? Snoop, Too Short? Yeah, I'm in!
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https://www.instagram.com/p/DSbHoV6Erln/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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We've been waiting for this one for years !!!!
The instrumental track is by a Smooth Jazz artist whose name I've forgotten.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA7Vtb9KJzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVQg05m51Zw&list=OLAK5uy_ntxlyN2h2-WL3MmUFAN0imGS69K0jYhOs&index=12&pp=8AUB
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Production credits?
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We've been waiting for this one for years !!!!
The instrumental track is by a Smooth Jazz artist whose name I've forgotten.
"Streamline" by Paul Taylor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKYjZvq0Ahw
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Mixing is terrible, I don't know how any established artist can think it's a good idea to release an album with such poor sound quality.
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[]D[][]V[][]D 8)
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Mixing is terrible, I don't know how any established artist can think it's a good idea to release an album with such poor sound quality.
Thats a westcoast thing...
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Thats a westcoast thing...
naah not even
lots of west coast producers are all about sound
matter of fact it's the east coast that was traditionally associated with lo-fi rawness in the sound
but nowadays, cats like daz, suga free, etc just don't put in the attention to detail because they more bout the fast buck than bout quality control
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I knew lot of U guys care bout mixin and masterin, but we cry bout bad mastering like a decade ago.
And everytime bout some westcoast release.
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Good Day feat WestCoast Stone (Uncredited)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT2Oce5dNQc
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Still not on Apple music naf as far as I know it won’t be there nevertheless after all this issues with mastering I’m not waiting for it anymore.
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Thats a westcoast thing...
It's a "no budget" thing.
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Is it just me? I don't hear a DJ Quik feature on Good Enough. This song was supposed to be on Free's last album, but was pulled at the last minute. Glad to see it show up here, but where's Quik, just production?
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Last time I checked, streaming money was next to zero. Does he not want to sell this album? Kinda weird that after all this time, you can't even buy it lol. Anyone know what's going on here?
Like the album cover though - it's funny lol.
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Just gave the album a listen all the way through (on YouTube lol. Seriously, why the fuck can't you buy this lol). This is the best stuff he's put out in a long time but it's definitely flawed. A number of songs sound incomplete... like they ran out of ideas on how to make them better and just said fuck it lol.
In a perfect world, Get it Get it would've been the first single on Free's third Quik-produced album after The New Testament with fonky signature 90s beats. A D'Angelo feature would've been dope too. If 100s was still around, that would've been a crazy collab too. $hort Dogg showing up was cool though.
The first half of the album sounds halfway decent but it starts rolling downhill after that. So much wasted potential man. That last song totally trashed a Quincy Jones sample lol. Free really deserves top tier arrangement and production. He's so unique. Too bad bad he'll never get it again but I'll take what I can get here lol. Get it Get it is the ONE 8)
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Just gave the album a listen all the way through (on YouTube lol. Seriously, why the fuck can't you buy this lol). This is the best stuff he's put out in a long time but it's definitely flawed. A number of songs sound incomplete... like they ran out of ideas on how to make them better and just said fuck it lol.
In a perfect world, Get it Get it would've been the first single on Free's third Quik-produced album after The New Testament with fonky signature 90s beats. A D'Angelo feature would've been dope too. If 100s was still around, that would've been a crazy collab too. $hort Dogg showing up was cool though.
The first half of the album sounds halfway decent but it starts rolling downhill after that. So much wasted potential man. That last song totally trashed a Quincy Jones sample lol. Free really deserves top tier arrangement and production. He's so unique. Too bad bad he'll never get it again but I'll take what I can get here lol. Get it Get it is the ONE 8)
"Get It" is awesome, it's like 8 years old. I'm really glad it finally got a proper release. I think it was supposed to be on some followup Quik/Suga Free album that never ended up happening. A few of these songs sound older, before he went full forward into his 'punchline flow' where he tells jokes and one liners in all his verses. Which most are really funny, but it's nice when he just flows like the old days too.
I agree with your assessment, it is the best album Free has released in a long time. Several leftover songs from his last album like "Good Enough" and "Care About My Hair" which are both great songs. I'm wondering if they cut the DJ Quik verse off Good Enough, it's only 2 verses and the DJ Quik feature is nowhere to be found. The song with Too Short is nice too, the Epstein lyrics are funny and timely. I've got a third of this album on repeat and the rest of the songs are unfortunately trash. But that's ok, i'll take about 8 nice Suga Free songs. The DJ Quik collabo "I Can Do That" sounds nice too, reminds of something off the 2nd II None Album "Classic 220".
"Good Day" is a really fun song too, that could easily be a single as well, love the flipped sample. There is some decent stuff on here, the cover is great too. Like everyone else said, could've been mixed better. But honestly, i come to expect that these days from these older rappers that don't really seem to care about that. Oh well.
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so is this a proper suga free album or a compilation?
because "presents" makes it seem as if it's not a solo
and his best album in some time? better than resurrection?
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"Get It" is awesome, it's like 8 years old.
you can see him perform the song here and it was online 15 years ago :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA7Vtb9KJzw
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Mixing is terribile as expected, he doesn't care about quality anymore, nothing new.
But I didn' expect "Get It Get It" to be released! This is a real Christmas gift!
Finally we've got also "I Care About My Hair", that's fonky!
"Good Day" is a nice track too.
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First listen through as background noise and I'm liking it!
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so is this a proper suga free album or a compilation?
because "presents" makes it seem as if it's not a solo
and his best album in some time? better than resurrection?
It's a proper release, it's a solo with a couple guest appearances, but definitely a Suga Free album.
Obviously opinions will vary, but yeah i like this much better than Resurrection. Other than Hearts and maybe one or two other songs, I thought that album was very forgettable. This album has at least 5 or 6 good songs after a few listens, i'm sure a few more will grow on me. That's the best i expect from a Suga Free album. His subject matter is very limited so it's hard to listen to a straight 19 tracks about pimping bitches, but I can easily pick out a lot a nice songs off this album.
If you're a stickler for mixing, which i imagine you are, you need to get past that to enjoy this album. Obviously it could've been mixed better.
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"Get It" is awesome, it's like 8 years old. I'm really glad it finally got a proper release. I think it was supposed to be on some followup Quik/Suga Free album that never ended up happening. A few of these songs sound older, before he went full forward into his 'punchline flow' where he tells jokes and one liners in all his verses. Which most are really funny, but it's nice when he just flows like the old days too.
I agree with your assessment, it is the best album Free has released in a long time. Several leftover songs from his last album like "Good Enough" and "Care About My Hair" which are both great songs. I'm wondering if they cut the DJ Quik verse off Good Enough, it's only 2 verses and the DJ Quik feature is nowhere to be found. The song with Too Short is nice too, the Epstein lyrics are funny and timely. I've got a third of this album on repeat and the rest of the songs are unfortunately trash. But that's ok, i'll take about 8 nice Suga Free songs. The DJ Quik collabo "I Can Do That" sounds nice too, reminds of something off the 2nd II None Album "Classic 220".
"Good Day" is a really fun song too, that could easily be a single as well, love the flipped sample. There is some decent stuff on here, the cover is great too. Like everyone else said, could've been mixed better. But honestly, i come to expect that these days from these older rappers that don't really seem to care about that. Oh well.
Yeah I remember that performance of Get it Get it... I thought it was so dope. It's from 2010. Nice surprise after 15 years. Damn shame Quik isn't making beats like that anymore. I miss the old Quik.
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It’s more like bunch of random demo tracks with low sound quality. No fun from listening to this type of trash releases. No to this one.
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https://music.apple.com/pl/album/mr-p-body/1862855081?ls
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some pretty good stuff on here but GOT DAMN @ that mixing/mastering.
there is no way on earth Quik OK'd this stuff to be released in such garbage quality :(
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some pretty good stuff on here but GOT DAMN @ that mixing/mastering.
there is no way on earth Quik OK'd this stuff to be released in such garbage quality :(
DJ Quik didn't really have anything to do with this other than production on a few tracks. My guess on this, and I could be totally wrong....Free had some of these DJ Quik songs in the vault forever, like GET IT. I know he had GOOD ENOUGH pulled from his last album because Quik wanted to save it. Quik been pushing this Quik/Free album for the last 20 years, I believe it was supposed to be called Geminis. And i think finally both of them realized this is never going to happen and Quik finally gave Free the OK to release some of these songs. But of course they were never fully mixed or mastered. Although GET IT sounds like it was mastered pretty well. But i mean damn, holding on to a 15 year old song, i'm glad they finally just released it. Even if they did come together and do an album (highly unlikely), they'll record new stuff anyways. I think that's part of why the mixing seems all over the place and it's a mix of older and newer songs. I do think Free was cleaning out the vault for some of these songs, which i'm glad he did. GET IT is the true gem, i never thought i'd get to hear it in HQ. Been listening to audio from that concert rip forever. Then someone finally put the instrumental under it, which helped a bit. But getting it on an album is so much better.
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DJ Quik didn't really have anything to do with this other than production on a few tracks. My guess on this, and I could be totally wrong....Free had some of these DJ Quik songs in the vault forever, like GET IT. I know he had GOOD ENOUGH pulled from his last album because Quik wanted to save it. Quik been pushing this Quik/Free album for the last 20 years, I believe it was supposed to be called Geminis. And i think finally both of them realized this is never going to happen and Quik finally gave Free the OK to release some of these songs. But of course they were never fully mixed or mastered. Although GET IT sounds like it was mastered pretty well. But i mean damn, holding on to a 15 year old song, i'm glad they finally just released it. Even if they did come together and do an album (highly unlikely), they'll record new stuff anyways. I think that's part of why the mixing seems all over the place and it's a mix of older and newer songs. I do think Free was cleaning out the vault for some of these songs, which i'm glad he did. GET IT is the true gem, i never thought i'd get to hear it in HQ. Been listening to audio from that concert rip forever. Then someone finally put the instrumental under it, which helped a bit. But getting it on an album is so much better.
maybe i just presume after hearing this that Free stuck the Quik tracks on there without his permission, such is the horrendous quality. it's as if someone took a low quality mp3 through a very low quality mastering process and fried them. Quik is known for sound quality so I presume when any song he produced is released on a commercial project (something people are paying for) he ideally is going to OK the final mix/master. I could be totally wrong but it's just painful to hear his records presented in this way. likewise that Get It track is equally rubbish quality, just listen to the OG instrumental it's taken from and it's 100 times clearer/fuller.
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This kind of projects are smack in the fan’s face.
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suga free is known for this
resurrection woulda been a classic wit proper mixing/mastering
these cats need to bring their stuff to labcabin if they want the right sound
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maybe i just presume after hearing this that Free stuck the Quik tracks on there without his permission, such is the horrendous quality. it's as if someone took a low quality mp3 through a very low quality mastering process and fried them. Quik is known for sound quality so I presume when any song he produced is released on a commercial project (something people are paying for) he ideally is going to OK the final mix/master. I could be totally wrong but it's just painful to hear his records presented in this way. likewise that Get It track is equally rubbish quality, just listen to the OG instrumental it's taken from and it's 100 times clearer/fuller.
With how bipolar Quik is and how easily he gets hurt and offended over the smallest things, which has led him to diss so many of his friends and people in his camp, only to turn around and make up with them later, I really think if Suga Free released these songs right out from under DJ Quik without his permission, Quik would've made it known. I don't think Free could legally even do that, but like i said, even if he did, Quik would be all over the internet about it. Free shouts out Quik numerous times on the album, so I really don't think there's any friction there. I do think these were probably demos or not the final mixes and Quik was intending on going back and mixing and touching them up at some point and finally said fuck it and Free released them the way they are.
Yayz and Grooves feat. Quik from KK's album wasn't mixed very well either, but it got released. I've noticed plenty of DJ Quik features or production that weren't mixed the best. Obviously if it's DJ Quik's album or an album produced and mixed by Quik, it's gonna be done right. But these guest appearance tracks from past years are all over the place production wise.
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it does seem to be a theme with Quik records that are handed off to other artists on projects he isn't overseeing. could well be a mastering/final mixdown thing.
examples
the track with Game on Doc 2.5 - dodgy mix/mastering
Jon B song Fill Your Cup - sounded amazing in previews/live and final version is poo, not properly mixed. the actual Book of David songs sound a million times better.
in the case of this project you can hear the tracks are complete, they're not demos all instruments/sounds are in place at relative levels but something went horribly wrong getting them to us in proper quality. we'll see if Quik says anything later down the line, he simply might not care or might not even be aware of this release.
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it does seem to be a theme with Quik records that are handed off to other artists on projects he isn't overseeing. could well be a mastering/final mixdown thing.
examples
the track with Game on Doc 2.5 - dodgy mix/mastering
Jon B song Fill Your Cup - sounded amazing in previews/live and final version is poo, not properly mixed. the actual Book of David songs sound a million times better.
in the case of this project you can hear the tracks are complete, they're not demos all instruments/sounds are in place at relative levels but something went horribly wrong getting them to us in proper quality. we'll see if Quik says anything later down the line, he simply might not care or might not even be aware of this release.
it could be a mastering issue
quik has no say on how others have their work mastered
different producers have their songs mixed differently depending on how the mastering engineer approaches it
quik might be mixing things thinner in order for a good mastering engineer to have more room to play with on the low end
but when a bad mastering engineer gets a hold of that mix, he may just be amplifying the thin sounds as opposed to balancing everything out, like a good mastering engineer does
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it could be a mastering issue
quik has no say on how others have their work mastered
different producers have their songs mixed differently depending on how the mastering engineer approaches it
quik might be mixing things thinner in order for a good mastering engineer to have more room to play with on the low end
but when a bad mastering engineer gets a hold of that mix, he may just be amplifying the thin sounds as opposed to balancing everything out, like a good mastering engineer does
yeah man.. doesn't it seem strange? Like when No Limit started selling platinum you would buy one of those albums and they had not even spent the money to have it properly mastered.
Another example just for you West Coast headz is Xzibit At the Speed of Light. I know it wasn't a big budget album but neither was 40 Dayz and 40 Nightz but the difference in Mastering is really visible if you compare those two.
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Good enough, With the flow, Get it get it, Who can do that ?, I care about my hair are dope tracks.
Too bad the sound's quality is fucked up.
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listening right now! 8) 8)
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the mix/mastering is horrible on this! :'( :-\ :-X
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the mix/mastering is horrible on this! :'( :-\ :-X
There is no mastering ;D
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Good Day feat WestCoast Stone (Uncredited)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT2Oce5dNQc
oh, by the way ; i knew i knew that song already. It was released 13 years ago on a Suga Free x Pimpin Young mixtape. Info on the song : https://www.thefader.com/2012/01/18/suga-free-good-day-mp3
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Love it! Suga free is one of my fav rappers of all time
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you can see him perform the song here and it was online 15 years ago :
Amazing
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track 14 "Dollas In My Pocket" got a new title:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rjqglB9E-k&list=OLAK5uy_ntxlyN2h2-WL3MmUFAN0imGS69K0jYhOs&index=14&pp=8AUB
The music production on this track pays hommage to "Space Boogie" by Kurupt and Nate on a Fredwreck beat : https://audiomack.com/kurupt/song/space-boogie