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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Que (signing off) on June 28, 2004, 04:22:58 AM
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Personally Quik is one of my favorites. That doesnt mean I cant disagree with some things he does. . .
He's now saying 50 Cent isnt Gangsta so he needs to stop claiming. . .
Now I see this as Quik being jelous of 50's success, 50 is the biggest Hip Hop act since Biggie, he's up there with Eminem, Jay Z and Biggie is the - 4 Hip Hop Greats - list. How can Quik start dissing 50 for not being "Gangsta" when he comes from New York, never shot folks,(Quik said the Gangsta was the guy who shot 50?) etc, when New York artists have been claiming Gangsta for years, even as far back the 80s, why hasnt Quik gone at these young guns, Camron, Shyne etc.
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where quik say this?
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where quik say this?
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at his concert the other night in rosairto with sly boogy. its on wcrydaz
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Why is he going at 50 for claiming Gangster, when he didnt go at Shyne, Black Rob etc etc etc. Unless its something personal? We dont know, if its personal then fair enough.
I hope hes going to drop a new record, on the underground again.
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Sounds like it was a good show 8)
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uh, wasn't Quik the one who 'claimed' all this gangsta stuff then did a 180 about it all?
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Now I see this as Quik being jelous of 50's success, 50 is the biggest Hip Hop act since Biggie, he's up there with Eminem, Jay Z and Biggie is the - 4 Hip Hop Greats - list. How can Quik start dissing 50 for not being "Gangsta" when he comes from New York, never shot folks,(Quik said the Gangsta was the guy who shot 50?) etc, when New York artists have been claiming Gangsta for years, even as far back the 80s, why hasnt Quik gone at these young guns, Camron, Shyne etc.
50 isn't even close to being on the same level as Eminem, Biggie, or even Jay-Z(who i dont even like). Maybe he is success wise, but not talent. Quik used to be gangsta but he ended that shit. Whether or not 50 is gangsta or not, Quik doesnt need to diss 50 for no reason at all. I doubt hes doing it out of jealousy though cause Quik's albums are much better than 50's whether or not they sold a lot of units, and Quik didnt sell out on any of them. thats my opinion.
peace
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lol, did u guys read the same shit I red over @ wcrydaz.
'I don't believe all you mothafuckas fall for this shit. Dude gets shot, and it ain't even a shoot out, he caught slippin ridin' shot gun (Quik laughs), and ya'll think he's gangsta?'
'Now I ain't got shit against 50 but he gotta stop calling himself a gangsta when he dont know what a gangsta is.'
Dude doesn't have to dis' him for nothing.......wah wah.......he's juss jealous........
Sound like lil school girls.
Anyway......wish I could'v been there!
Biggest hiphop act since Biggie........lol........U HAVE TO BE KIDDING MAN!
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Gotta respect dude for throwing the redrag back!
Exactly the point I was going to make after reading the WCRydaz update. My take on it is.. if hes at a point in his life where his thoughts are "I cant believe that I used to bang for that red rag" type shit.. then why should Quik be concerned about another fake gangster? I mean.. its no secret that most arent real.. its entertainment. Quik contradicted himself by smashin on 50 about fakin then reacting the way he did when dude tried to hand him a red rag. Like he had a moment of consciousness or some shit. I love Quik but that was gay to get all mushy about the people he's lost. That's an everyday thang for alot of other people from alot of other places. Tired of the 50 diss ban wagon too. Be real or be out. Diss Bush.. Diss Clear Channel.. etc..
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wtf quick is damn right, 50 is the biggest wanksta!! 50 says he is a G , but look to his music , its whack soft shit!!!
Fucc Them G-Unit Dickryders
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maybe 50 turned down the beats Dj Quik made for The Game album???
now he mad I dont know.
are the Dj Quik beats still gonna be used on Games album?
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wtf quick is damn right, 50 is the biggest wanksta!! 50 says he is a G , but look to his music , its whack soft shit!!!
Fucc Them G-Unit Dickryders
Ok.. so if we all know.. or rather believe that.. then why even speak up on it? Quiks too much of an OG for that if you ask me. He lost points speakin up on anothers business. Who cares who that other is.. He spoke up on another mans hustle and thats booty. Hes too respected to go out like that. IMO.
^*edit after seeing Yash's reply*^
Wooaaahh.. totally forgot about The Game and Quiks connection. He did do a few tracks for Game. That makes his outburst even WACKER!!!!!
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Personally Quik is one of my favorites. That doesnt mean I cant disagree with some things he does. . .
He's now saying 50 Cent isnt Gangsta so he needs to stop claiming. . .
Now I see this as Quik being jelous of 50's success, 50 is the biggest Hip Hop act since Biggie, he's up there with Eminem, Jay Z and Biggie is the - 4 Hip Hop Greats - list. How can Quik start dissing 50 for not being "Gangsta" when he comes from New York, never shot folks,(Quik said the Gangsta was the guy who shot 50?) etc, when New York artists have been claiming Gangsta for years, even as far back the 80s, why hasnt Quik gone at these young guns, Camron, Shyne etc.
You tellin' me Quik is jealous cause they legends and he ain't...
Do you know how newbish that sounds?
D/J Quik > crap > eminem > biggie > more crap > jay
jay ain't no legend..he's a trick and eminem is pretty clever but he fell off and biggie was okay,but he would of been better if he linked up with Pac in Thug Life instead of bein' pdiddy's pawn.
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i guess its the thing to do nowadays just hate on 50 cent ???
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DJ Quik has called out fake gangsta's numerous times since 1998...he just finally put a name to it and you all get mad...oh well, he told the truth....no respect lost from me
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D/J Quik > crap > eminem > biggie > more crap > jay
jay ain't no legend..he's a trick and eminem is pretty clever but he fell off and biggie was okay,but he would of been better if he linked up with Pac in Thug Life instead of bein' pdiddy's pawn.
How did Eminem fall off? The dude's lyrics get doper and doper each day(even though his first album is sick). Until he drops a whack verse you can't even talk shit about him.
Also, i didnt hear anything about Quik making beats for Game, that makes this a lot more interesting. I dont think Game would go well with a Quik beat though anyways.
peace
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Homies just speakin his mind. It may be jealousy and it may just be pissin' him off. If it is, I can't blame dude. He's got more talent than that fool but yet he can't blow up. Sad situation.
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Homies just speakin his mind. It may be jealousy and it may just be pissin' him off. If it is, I can't blame dude. He's got more talent than that fool but yet he can't blow up. Sad situation.
If ONE MAN gets pissed off at ANOTHER MAN (key word man. not woman) and decides to dirty up his name over being successful then hes hatin. This is the case with a few of MY FAVORITE artists. I.E. DJ Quik, C-Bo And Yuk. They aint got no business jumping into this beef. The only legit beef I see is with Bang Em and Silver Back. I can understand them speakin up on him because they actually had a working relationship and alot happened personally with them. They were a part of his come up and he forgot about them once he CAME UP. Thats a legit beef. But alot of the other rappers who have spoken against 50 are just hatin on his angle or formula for success. They dont know him or have ever had a working relationship with 50. They may be real in the streets and feel as though hes gettin over on 9 shots so they testin his gangsta.. Ok.. then do it in the streets then and not on wax.
WHO THE FUCK CARES if 50 got over on 9 shots. Dudes successful and personally if aint nobody done shit to me.. them Imma be happy for him. Back in 86 - 88.. brothaz had some what of a code.. there was more honor and shit. Speaking of 88.. That'd be like hatin on someone from high school who fucked a girl that you've always wanted to fuck (btw.. you dont know dude..) but your pissed at him and hate on him for hittin some shit you wanted to. Now when you apply that scenerio to the rap game: They mad cuz he hit a bitch named HIP HOP and tricked her out for MILLIONS. Man.. GET YOURS and PROPS to any man who does!!!! Im proud of any brotha whos makin it. I love seein success. Makes me wanna work harder. I aint gonna waste my energy hatin on another brotha.. steady tryin to pick his game. (<-- THAT AINT GANGSTA! Since Quik thinks he knows the definition) Hell nah. Imma buckle down, be creative and come up with MY OWN GAME.
If people would just calm down.. take a deep breath and put all that energy into comin up with they own.. they'd probably be alot more successful. Nothing positive can come from it. You only got 24 hours a day to get ahead. Thinking is about the hardest thing a person can do cuz it involved discipline. Most never learn that. They just continue getting over on loop holes and shit.. but never really master the art of thinking. Putting together a complete vision is hard to do so most go through episodes. They aint got no focus which is why they get side tracked on haterizm. Frustration is the real issue here. Gotta focus on your shit.. all the while observing others who are successful and letting that motivate. Its hard not to get frustrated at life cuz the shit goes so fast. 24 hours is all you got homie. Hating is Wasting time. Time is money. get it?
Case in point.. Deathrow. Blackballed by the media cuz of beef. They dont think before they speak.. they just kick up dust and speak off emotions like little girls do. Deathrow should be an example of HOW NOT TO GET Ahead in life. (Generally speaking.. anger is cover up for fear.) People may buy into your controversy for bit.. but people for the most part are smart and realize this in time. (cant never underestimate another mans intelligence, but again.. most do.) Usually it all back fires when the smoke clears.. because their haterizm gets exposed.. and they end up looking like a bitch (again people are smart.) Think about it yall. And I aint tryin to defend 50. Im just tryin to get yall to understand that haterizm is why other people in the industry aint as successful as 50. Haterizm is the main reason why artists like Quik, C-Bo and Yuk feel the west fell off and they still sittin here beefin and shit. Hypocritical if you ask me.
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the word "hatin" is the dumbest slang ever invented..... you can no longer speak your mind on anything without that word coming up...he's telling the truth and he's spoken on it before
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no it's not true because 50 cents career was created by "hatin" how to rob....the beef with ja rule (he comaplins about ja rules singing but that's what he does now)
so right there is enough reason to clown another person
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the word "hatin" is the dumbest slang ever invented..... you can no longer speak your mind on anything without that word coming up...he's telling the truth and he's spoken on it before
I agree.. that term is miss-used ALOT! Example of miss-use: If someone posts a thread about Snoops being the greatest.. and another person doesnt agree.. its almost guaranteed that the person who gave Snoop props will fire back a reply calling them a "hater." Or something to that affect (happens very often on our board)
But thats an opinion.. not hatin. Some would say that hating is sorta like the opposite of supporting but I say it's goes waaay beyond just "not supporting" or "not caring." Hating is a deleborate attempt to hold someone back like CRABS do in a bucket do. Having a negative opinion about something.. thats cool. That usually results in simply not support it which is fair. Example: You dont agree.. then dont buy the fuckin album.
But hating is tryin to take food off anothers plate cuz you mad at how they got it or because you aint got it. Pre-meditated cock blockin is what hating is and thats on some gay ass shit. Let people get theirs.. you get yours.
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DJ Quik has called out fake gangsta's numerous times since 1998...he just finally put a name to it and you all get mad...oh well, he told the truth....no respect lost from me
i aint say i ever lost respect ;D
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no it's not true because 50 cents career was created by "hatin" how to rob....the beef with ja rule (he comaplins about ja rules singing but that's what he does now)
so right there is enough reason to clown another person
Disagree. How To Rob was a gimmik because it was obviously untrue and OBVIOUSLY a joke. The only reason he got flack for it is cuz people got they feelings hurt like little girls do. Sorta like Biggie with Dreams. (he wasnt really robbing them, biggie wasnt fuckin Mariah..) Another good example is comedians pokin fun at industry folks on various late night shows. They may get pissed that people are making jokes but thats the game. You dont see Jay Leno seriously trying to hurt peoples career.. get it? If someone pokes fun at me.. and Im a celeb who gets pissed.. that says alot more about me then it does about them. Ive just exposed my insecurities.
Ax
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Homies just speakin his mind. It may be jealousy and it may just be pissin' him off. If it is, I can't blame dude. He's got more talent than that fool but yet he can't blow up. Sad situation.
If ONE MAN gets pissed off at ANOTHER MAN (key word man. not woman) and decides to dirty up his name over being successful then hes hatin. This is the case with a few of MY FAVORITE artists. I.E. DJ Quik, C-Bo And Yuk. They aint got no business jumping into this beef. The only legit beef I see is with Bang Em and Silver Back. I can understand them speakin up on him because they actually had a working relationship and alot happened personally with them. They were a part of his come up and he forgot about them once he CAME UP. Thats a legit beef. But alot of the other rappers who have spoken against 50 are just hatin on his angle or formula for success. They dont know him or have ever had a working relationship with 50. They may be real in the streets and feel as though hes gettin over on 9 shots so they testin his gangsta.. Ok.. then do it in the streets then and not on wax.
WHO THE FUCK CARES if 50 got over on 9 shots. Dudes successful and personally if aint nobody done shit to me.. them Imma be happy for him. Back in 86 - 88.. brothaz had some what of a code.. there was more honor and shit. Speaking of 88.. That'd be like hatin on someone from high school who fucked a girl that you've always wanted to fuck (btw.. you dont know dude..) but your pissed at him and hate on him for hittin some shit you wanted to. Now when you apply that scenerio to the rap game: They mad cuz he hit a bitch named HIP HOP and tricked her out for MILLIONS. Man.. GET YOURS and PROPS to any man who does!!!! Im proud of any brotha whos makin it. I love seein success. Makes me wanna work harder. I aint gonna waste my energy hatin on another brotha.. steady tryin to pick his game. (<-- THAT AINT GANGSTA! Since Quik thinks he knows the definition) Hell nah. Imma buckle down, be creative and come up with MY OWN GAME.
If people would just calm down.. take a deep breath and put all that energy into comin up with they own.. they'd probably be alot more successful. Nothing positive can come from it. You only got 24 hours a day to get ahead. Thinking is about the hardest thing a person can do cuz it involved discipline. Most never learn that. They just continue getting over on loop holes and shit.. but never really master the art of thinking. Putting together a complete vision is hard to do so most go through episodes. They aint got no focus which is why they get side tracked on haterizm. Frustration is the real issue here. Gotta focus on your shit.. all the while observing others who are successful and letting that motivate. Its hard not to get frustrated at life cuz the shit goes so fast. 24 hours is all you got homie. Hating is Wasting time. Time is money. get it?
Case in point.. Deathrow. Blackballed by the media cuz of beef. They dont think before they speak.. they just kick up dust and speak off emotions like little girls do. Deathrow should be an example of HOW NOT TO GET Ahead in life. (Generally speaking.. anger is cover up for fear.) People may buy into your controversy for bit.. but people for the most part are smart and realize this in time. (cant never underestimate another mans intelligence, but again.. most do.) Usually it all back fires when the smoke clears.. because their haterizm gets exposed.. and they end up looking like a bitch (again people are smart.) Think about it yall. And I aint tryin to defend 50. Im just tryin to get yall to understand that haterizm is why other people in the industry aint as successful as 50. Haterizm is the main reason why artists like Quik, C-Bo and Yuk feel the west fell off and they still sittin here beefin and shit. Hypocritical if you ask me.
You made great points. I wasn't even denyin' the fact that Quik was hatin' on 50. He's probably doin' it to make some money off 50's name. Whether or not I still gotta respect the man for speakin' his mind and not givin' a fuck what anyone thinks about it.
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no it's not true because 50 cents career was created by "hatin" how to rob....the beef with ja rule (he comaplins about ja rules singing but that's what he does now)
so right there is enough reason to clown another person
Disagree. How To Rob was a gimmik because it was obviously untrue and OBVIOUSLY a joke. The only reason he got flack for it is cuz people got they feelings hurt like little girls do. Sorta like Biggie with Dreams. (he wasnt really robbing them, biggie wasnt fuckin Mariah..) Another good example is comedians pokin fun at industry folks on various late night shows. They may get pissed that people are making jokes but thats the game. You dont see Jay Leno seriously trying to hurt peoples career.. get it? If someone pokes fun at me.. and Im a celeb who gets pissed.. that says alot more about me then it does about them. Ive just exposed my insecurities.
Ax
congrats, you discredited one song but then you completly ignore the ja rule situation
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big deal.....seems like alot of ppl are hating on 50 lately....this aint no different
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I perfer Quik over 50 Cent, but was there really a reason for him saying this?
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;D
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I perfer Quik over 50 Cent, but was there really a reason for him saying this?
I cant call it. At this point.. nobody really knows what motivated him to speak up on 50. Yash indicated that (NOT CONFIRMED.. just forum talk) 50 may have turned down Quiks production for Game. Thats sooo far fetched but who knows. I doubt he would let that get to him. I really doubt hes twisted about that even if its true. Quiks honestly one of the most talented producers \ rappers to come out the west and I love his music. But fans (who've followed his career) cant help but notice that he comes off a little emotional at times. Ya'll remember them 92.3 The Beat days when he was on Theos show every other day.. cryin about everything from how he hates Safe And Sound.. to how he'll never release another album and planned to retire. (understandable to a certain degree. That was around the time he lost Top Dog and Mausberg) One minute.. hes claiming Tree Top.. one minute hes not.. one minute hes rollin with Suge and The Row.. shortly after.. hes not.. etc. Oh yea.. he even claimed to have invented the C.. opps.. I mean B-Walk.. (check DVD for details) and feels as though a variety of artists and media outlets stole the idea from him and marketed it as the C-Walk. Now hes going outta his way to diss 50.. even going as far as to dedicate a portion of his show to this non-sense. While all in the same breath.. "he cant believe that he used to bang for that red." Just doesnt make since. What could he possibly gain from dissin anybody.. let alone a high profile target like 50. I mean.. everyones dissin him right now.. so why jump in? I for one am a little disappointed that he hooped the ban wagon and decided to show his ass. Hes too legendary for that. Lost points.
Ax
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lol, man. The majority of you have gotten things all twisted.
Haterizm is the main reason why artists like Quik, C-Bo and Yuk feel the west fell off and they still sittin here beefin and shit. Hypocritical if you ask me.
What the fuck man, lol. You brought up some good points man, but dude.........you talking about Quik? lol. I wouldn't even call it hating man......dude spoke on 50 for a good minute or so, dam. Dude never really dis'd him, he had an opinion and he shared w/ the crowd. He sed himself that he has nothing against 50, it's the bs gullable ppl are made to believe.
Until dude makes a song about it, then yeah........that would be uncalled for, dude has no real beef w/ 50.
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lol, man. The majority of you have gotten things all twisted.
Haterizm is the main reason why artists like Quik, C-Bo and Yuk feel the west fell off and they still sittin here beefin and shit. Hypocritical if you ask me.
What the fuck man, lol. You brought up some good points man, but dude.........you talking about Quik? lol. I wouldn't even call it hating man......dude spoke on 50 for a good minute or so, dam. Dude never really dis'd him, he had an opinion and he shared w/ the crowd. He sed himself that he has nothing against 50, it's the bs gullable ppl are made to believe.
Until dude makes a song about it, then yeah........that would be uncalled for, dude has no real beef w/ 50.
There's no question, Quiks one of my favs. But my point was.. why speak up on 50 or any man for that matter if theres no real beef.. nothing really to gain.. nothing really to prove.. no money to make.. etc? I mean.. speak up on Suge if you just wanna dirty up somebodys name. They've actually got some real issues that I'm sure we'd all be more interested in hearing then him speak on 50. He's saying the same shit that EVERYBODY's been saying for almost a year now.. 50's fake.. 50's a snitch.. blah.. blah.. blah.. Old news Quik. Hatin is contagious and maybe hes just tryin to fit in with the million or so other 50 haters. Who knows.
If you makin legal money.. and you end up makin it to the top, then Imma happy for you regardless of if I agree with your means. Imma let you make your money, sit back and peep that shit out, get inspired and make my own money. Fuck the bullshit.. aint nobody as real as they come off on wax anyway so why try to prove something that everybody already knows?
The only thing that can be GAINED from this is to indirectly cause 50 to lose a "would be" fan which is FUCKED UP for any artist cuz thats they bread and butter. You dont see 50 running around tryin to take money outta Quik's pocket do you? He aint runnin around, doin shows, tryin to convience people not to fuck with Quik. I dont care if it was only A MINUTE, I still dont see how this could benefit Quik at all, but I CAN see how this can hurt 50 or any artists bottom line. So now that "would be" fan sits at home, hatin on 50, maybe decides not to buy his album or go to his concert, whatever. Thats the problem I have with Quiks outburst. It's more then just words or an opinion yall! It's the bottom line that I'm defending. 50's hustle is legal so LEGALLY 50 has a right to be successful.
Ax
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he already spoke up against suge, why beat a dead horse?
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I luv Quik. Fuck 50 and da rest of G-Unit. I can't stand them. Their music is shitty and ppl just buy their cd's cause it's 50 cent. I havn't liked 5o since day 1!
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well it didn't need to be said but shit his situation must get frustrated i can't blame the nigga for speaking out
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Now I see this as Quik being jelous of 50's success, 50 is the biggest Hip Hop act since Biggie, he's up there with Eminem, Jay Z and Biggie is the - 4 Hip Hop Greats - list. How can Quik start dissing 50 for not being "Gangsta" when he comes from New York, never shot folks,(Quik said the Gangsta was the guy who shot 50?) etc, when New York artists have been claiming Gangsta for years, even as far back the 80s, why hasnt Quik gone at these young guns, Camron, Shyne etc.
50 isn't even close to being on the same level as Eminem, Biggie, or even Jay-Z(who i dont even like). Maybe he is success wise, but not talent.
i was about to post the exact same thing...
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very good points a3XLe
no it's not true because 50 cents career was created by "hatin" how to rob....the beef with ja rule (he comaplins about ja rules singing but that's what he does now)
so right there is enough reason to clown another person
Disagree. How To Rob was a gimmik because it was obviously untrue and OBVIOUSLY a joke. The only reason he got flack for it is cuz people got they feelings hurt like little girls do. Sorta like Biggie with Dreams. (he wasnt really robbing them, biggie wasnt fuckin Mariah..) Another good example is comedians pokin fun at industry folks on various late night shows. They may get pissed that people are making jokes but thats the game. You dont see Jay Leno seriously trying to hurt peoples career.. get it? If someone pokes fun at me.. and Im a celeb who gets pissed.. that says alot more about me then it does about them. Ive just exposed my insecurities.
Ax
congrats, you discredited one song but then you completly ignore the ja rule situation
Ja Rule himself started the beef with 50
if anything 50 proved that he ain't a hater imo cause he didn't hate on Ja for his sucess even though he knew Ja was fake
he used to be like "sup, how u doin" when meeting ja before the beef started, Ja didn't do nothin to him, he was always being friendly so that's what 50 was
the beef only started when Ja saw 50 in a club wit a guy who robbed ja before... he was mad at 50 for being down with somebody who robbed himself (without 50 havin anything to do with the robbery) so he started beef
maybe it looked like 50 had something to do with it, can't speak on that but anyway fact is Ja started the beef, not 50 just cause ja is singin on his records
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But fans (who've followed his career) cant help but notice that he comes off a little emotional at times. Ya'll remember them 92.3 The Beat days when he was on Theos show every other day.. cryin about everything from how he hates Safe And Sound.. to how he'll never release another album and planned to retire. (understandable to a certain degree. That was around the time he lost Top Dog and Mausberg) One minute.. hes claiming Tree Top.. one minute hes not.. one minute hes rollin with Suge and The Row.. shortly after.. hes not.. etc. Oh yea.. he even claimed to have invented the C.. opps.. I mean B-Walk.. (check DVD for details) and feels as though a variety of artists and media outlets stole the idea from him and marketed it as the C-Walk.
Ax
Good points Ax...Quiks one of my favorites, but he's very emotional and seems to change his opinions on a daily basis. Remember when Quik talked about his (and at this time new) LP Under Tha Influence and said "It's got no West Coast sounds on it. Using the whole Roger Troutman, Zapp sound, that bullshit is for the birds."
I remember I was shocked when I heard that, cause thats his formula and he used it since day 1. And he been using it again since he said that, even on Under Tha Influence. Quiks always been about contradictions