West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: infinite59 on July 24, 2004, 10:50:24 AM
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This song was released at the hieght of all the East Coast/ West Coast drama, right around the time of 2pac's death, and right before both coasts started doing records with eachother. This was a landmark record. It should have it's place in the history of hip-hop and should have defined that post-2pac era. Instead, it came and went virtually unnoticed.
Have ya'll heard the lyrics to this track? It's sick! Did ya'll check Nas out, "When I bomb like Sadaam/ The world feels the wrath of Khan/ All black on/ In this modern day Babylon!"---That is so ill!!!! For those that don't know the Khan's were a dynasty that laid destruction all throughout the Muslim and Christian world during the middle ages, (all the way to "Babylon", (Iraq)) before the later generations of the Khan empire left Hinduism for Islam and thus propelled Islam to being the dominant political worldview of the Eastern World.
Anyway, aside from the brief history lesson, every MC on this track kills it. B-Real, RBX, KRS-1.. THe beat is one of the illest hip-hop beats ever... and the video was great theatre...
Why I say underrated is because I only saw the video to this song once, and the song was never even played on the radio. Doesn't make sense.
Dre took an upright stance against violence in hip-hop in 1996. Now people want Dre to do positive records and he always says, "I tried that with Aftermath Presents, and it flopped."-- It's a shame.
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yeah dope ass track even though it was kinda directed at Pac
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Gotta peep this track
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That's definitely a tight track, not only the music, but the historical move it was, as you said. But I never saw the video :'(
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yeah dope ass track even though it was kinda directed at Pac
how was it directed at pac? ???
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yea i got this music video and the song..... i mean it's very sick, music video was even better...... i dont know why it went by unnoticed
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^ Could you probably upload the video somewhere? That would be really appreciated.
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dope track
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I'm ashamed to say I never heard it. Can one of you guys post it please?
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If anyone's interested I have this cd import single listed on my ebay auctions right now :) There's a thread I started with a link in the Swap Meet! If you're intersted in just purchasing it straight out instead of goin with the bidding, contact me asap!
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I'm surprised so many people haven't heard the song or seen the video. I expected more when I first heard it; it's dope tho.
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If ya werent around when this cam,e out, you wouldnt know alot about this song...however, it IS a CLASSIC song, and there are other very good songs on Dre presents The Aftermath
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I'm surprised so many people haven't heard the song or seen the video. I expected more when I first heard it; it's dope tho.
I live in Germany, no way to see videos like that on German television. So somebody has to upload the video 8)
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I never even knew there was a video for this shit. Somebody gotta hook it up through the hook-up spot forum.
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Agreed.
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there were a bunch of tight songs on the aftermath compilation. this song is definitely a banger.
peace.
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yeah dope ass track even though it was kinda directed at Pac
how was it directed at pac? ???
Dre and Pac were beefing at the time and the song is basicaly a diss to whoever was instigating the east/west beef=Pac.The song is preaching unity between both coasts.
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I never saw the video. That song is the shit though.
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lol, fuckin people always spreading rumors and talkin shit bout stuff they ain't knowin about. This song was NOT directed at pac, in fact, I'm 90% sure that the aftermath compilation dropped after Pac died. The song was made to create peace between the two coasts. The song was not dissing anybody. How the fuck are you gonna have a diss song that creates peace? Dre didn't have any beef with pac, pac just said stuff about dre, most likely cuz suge got in his head. Dope song and video, but definately not the most underrated track ever. Get your shit right Crooked mexican. I swear some of you guys are worse than fuckin small town teenage drama queen girls, always gossiping and spreading false rumors.
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lol, fuckin people always spreading rumors and talkin shit bout stuff they ain't knowin about. This song was NOT directed at pac, in fact, I'm 90% sure that the aftermath compilation dropped after Pac died. The song was made to create peace between the two coasts. The song was not dissing anybody. How the fuck are you gonna have a diss song that creates peace? Dre didn't have any beef with pac, pac just said stuff about dre, most likely cuz suge got in his head. Dope song and video, but definately not the most underrated track ever. Get your shit right Crooked mexican. I swear some of you guys are worse than fuckin small town teenage drama queen girls, always gossiping and spreading false rumors.
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u could beleive what u want to believe and iterpret the song how u want i dont give a fuck, thats what i think if u dont like it eat a dick.LOL at Dre never dissing Pac-go read the source article after dre left death row and dissed pac.The song was recorded and released as a video WHILE PAC WAS ALIVE-it was the first single and the album dropped after pac passed if i remember.Some of u probly started listening to rap in 99 so u might not recall.
Here is another diss to pac from Dre on the intro to the Nas song "Nas is coming" if u dont think he is talkin bout pac then ur a retard
Tru the disses were indirect/subliminal but who else is Dre referring to?Ice Cube?Mack 10?
[Nas] Motherfuckin Dre!
[Dre] AHHHHHHH!
[Nas] Whassup my nigga?
[Dre] Sup NAS?
[Nas] Chillin God
[Dre] Niggaz is up in here hittin some of this CHRONIC nigga
[Nas] Yeah and this chocolate over here
They mixed this shit up
[Dre] Nigga hit some of this shit nigga
[Nas] Yeah, lemme get that
I'm tired of these niggaz, niggaz stealin beats
And niggaz is stealin, your whole techniques and shit
Niggaz wanna take everything from a nigga man
[Dre] Yeah yeah yo Nas it's like this man
("Nas is coming..")
Niggaz can't do it like I do it, d'yaknahmsayin?
Just like niggaz can't do what you do
("Nas is coming..")
[Nas] Right, right
[Dre] You know, can't nobody fuck with this
("Nas is coming..")
You know all these niggaz out here just..
("Nas is coming..")
talkin this East coast West coast bullshit
Niggaz need to kill that shit
("Nas is coming..")
and make some money, y'know?[Nas] WORD!
("Nas is coming..")
[Dre] Fuck it
[Nas] What is it, what is it God?
("Nas is coming..")
[Dre] Let's get together, make some fuckin music
[Nas] Right, that's what I'm sayin, that's what I'm sayin
[Dre] and get PAID, and just.. let that be it
("Nas is coming..")
All these niggaz talkin all this bullshit
("Nas is coming..")
better sit back, and watch what happens
("Nas is coming..")
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hell yeah i remember this video!!!! its hard to say if it was released before pac died or not... i know it was released at the beginning of my sophomore year...which puts it at late summer early fall in 96. Weren't they all sitting around a table smokin cigars and shit? And for some reason i'm thinking everything had like a green light shining on it? The beat was crazy as hell. That siren sound in it kinda remiinds me of some Rockwilder shit. I need to hear this again - Nas and KRS on the track? shit was crazy. B Real was tight, but I can't say that RBX's verse sticks out in my mind...
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Here's the link to the CD Import of this I have on ebay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=307&item=4026710507
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I heard that Dre dissed Pac on "Been There Done That" he says, "I ain't tryin to stick around for Illuminati", although Pac's album was Killuminati. That's what I heard anyway.
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good track
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I heard that Dre dissed Pac on "Been There Done That" he says, "I ain't tryin to stick around for Illuminati", although Pac's album was Killuminati. That's what I heard anyway.
yeah i heard that too, Eastwest killaz did have a dope ass video by the way, too bad the comp sucked for the most part
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there were 3 classics and 2 real good songs on the aftermath comp
classic:
1. Been There, Done That (Dr.Dre Solo)
2. East Coast/West Coast Killaz (Dre feat. Nas, B-Real, Rbx & Krs One)
3. Str8 Gone (King T)
Real Good:
1. Blunt Time (Mel-Man)
2. Shitten On The World (Rbx)
the rest of the album was :-X :P
peace.
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I heard that Dre dissed Pac on "Been There Done That" he says, "I ain't tryin to stick around for Illuminati", although Pac's album was Killuminati. That's what I heard anyway.
No, that line has nothing to do with Pac.
The "Illuminati" is the world's richest 1%'s move towards a "New World Order", where they can control almost everything you hear, see and do. George Bush Senior was even caught in a speach once saying, "New World Order". It's about a fraternal order (Free Masonry) that behind closed doors, and sometimes even in the open, is seeking global domination. The wealthiest 1% is richer than the following 95%. They already own almost all major media, and have worked to consolidate it, so you can put 5 people in a room and they can control most of what you hear and see and dictate policy. Read Jordan Maxwell if you want to learn more.
There's also a line in "East Coast Killa/ West Coast Killa" where a loud speaker effect is used and it says "Welcome to the New World Order, all constitutional rights have been suspended!".
Basically, Dre's just saying that he's trying to get as much paper as he can before the "Illuminati" (New World Order) declares martial law and creates a police state.
In the "East Coast Killa/ West Coast Killa" video, I only saw it once, but I think the theme has something to do with everyone being trapped in a police state, and trying to break out of the grip of the "Illuminati".
Really, the whole "Illuminati, New World Order" thang seemed to be part of their theme for the album. There's another real dope track on there by Nationowl that also goes with the theme of being in the "last days" and trying to make a little dough before the oppurtunity is over.
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there were 3 classics and 2 real good songs on the aftermath comp
classic:
1. Been There, Done That (Dr.Dre Solo)
2. East Coast/West Coast Killaz (Dre feat. Nas, B-Real, Rbx & Krs One)
3. Str8 Gone (King T)
Real Good:
1. Blunt Time (Mel-Man)
2. Shitten On The World (Rbx)
the rest of the album was :-X :P
peace.
First I want to say, that for those claiming to be Dre fans, this is Dre's most sincere album. "Aftermath Presents" is Dre at his realest!!! For real. If you want to know Dre, this is his album. The album that most closely resembles who he is as a person. Anyone that read the Source issue with him on the cover from summer 96 knows this. He wanted to stand up and do his own thing and he didn't care what anybody in the industry had to say about him. What happened was the album flopped commercially, so he went back to being fake and acting gangsta, so he could be on top again.
Here's my list.
Classic:
1. East Coast/West Coast Killaz (Dre feat. Nas, B-Real, Rbx & Krs One)
2. Been There, Done That (Dr.Dre Solo)
Near Classic:
1. Nationowl
2. Shitten On The World (Mel-Man solo)
3. Fame- RC
4. Str8 Gone- King Tee
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Aler G? You ever listened to Nationowls song on there before? U think its what? i give up man, if that is a wack song than what is dope anymore?
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Aler G? You ever listened to Nationowls song on there before? U think its what? i give up man, if that is a wack song than what is dope anymore?
Word. That Nationowl song was deep. I'd love to hear an album from him.
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Thankfully, someone posted the video at the Gangsta Shit forums. Yeah, this is definatly underrated
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I'm surprised so many people haven't heard the song or seen the video. I expected more when I first heard it; it's dope tho.
I live in Germany, no way to see videos like that on German television. So somebody has to upload the video 8)
that vid was on mtv in germany every day,..... back in 96. 8) anyway i got the single cd incl. instrumental, i luv that beat, and the original VHS promo vid. it says " fire version"... dunno whats the difference there.