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Title: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Dave Shining on September 24, 2004, 05:46:26 PM
Who makes better movies , i will have to go with Quentin because everything that he puts out is just amazing

(http://www.moviepap.co.uk/images/directors/qtgun2.jpg)  VS (http://www.moviemaze.de/celebs/0005/main.jpg)
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: white Boy on September 24, 2004, 05:49:15 PM
come on... quentin
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Dave Shining on September 24, 2004, 05:54:57 PM
yea Quentin is in a league of his own u cant verse him against anyone casue no one aint like him
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: platinumk777 on September 24, 2004, 08:24:26 PM
come on... quentin
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Don Jacob on September 24, 2004, 10:25:42 PM
c'mon Tarantino all the way
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 25, 2004, 02:28:29 AM
Kevin who? (lol j/k)

Definitely Tarantino
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: eS El Duque on September 25, 2004, 09:26:34 AM
Kevin who? (lol j/k)

Definitely Tarantino

Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on September 25, 2004, 11:07:41 AM
quentin, no competition



whoa nice, 1200 posts
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Throwback on September 25, 2004, 11:55:43 AM
yea Quentin is in a league of his own u cant verse him against anyone casue no one aint like him
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Shallow on September 25, 2004, 10:07:42 PM
I don't care for Tarantino films. I'd still pick him over Smith, but Tarantino is hardly as god as you guys are claiming. Kubrick was way ahead of Quentin, as far as that weird stuff is concerend. Fuck Kill Bill, I'll take To Kill a Mocking bird over Kill Bill any day of the week. So far all Tarantino has ever made me do was say "that's pretty cool". His movies have never moved me in anyway, other than the cool feeling I get when I see a Chuck Norris or Segal movie. Sorry, but in my opinion Tarantino is way too over rated by his fans.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Don Jacob on September 25, 2004, 10:59:49 PM
i'd take Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs over Clockwork orange and The Shinning any day of the week
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 25, 2004, 11:37:35 PM
i'd take Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs over Clockwork orange and The Shinning any day of the week

No doubt
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Javier on September 26, 2004, 08:30:12 AM
If you wnat to get moved, go to fucking church.  A movie is a movie...and tarantino is good at it.  His style of filming MIGHT be overrated, but his writing is classic.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: bez on September 26, 2004, 10:34:04 AM
If you wnat to get moved, go to fucking church.  A movie is a movie...and tarantino is good at it.  His style of filming MIGHT be overrated, but his writing is classic.

Theres the answer right there.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Shallow on September 26, 2004, 01:42:08 PM
i'd take Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs over Clockwork orange and The Shinning any day of the week

Id like to see Kill Bill in 1970. I don't even like Kubrick but he's still a better director. 2001, Dr. Strangelove, and fucking Spartacus, I mean c'mon man. Full Metal Jacket is another great one. Tarantino is the most over rated directoer of all time. I don't mean he's bad, but people talk about him like he's above and beyond all the others.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Shallow on September 26, 2004, 01:48:09 PM
If you wnat to get moved, go to fucking church.  A movie is a movie...and tarantino is good at it.  His style of filming MIGHT be overrated, but his writing is classic.

What the fuck are you talking about. A movie is supposed to tell a story with pictures and move the audience. I don't mean spiritually, but if you think that directors don't want to move their audience then you're wrong. As for writing, I watched the first kill bill and it was fight scene after fight scene. Hemmingway was a classic writer, I don't know about Tarantino.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Javier on September 26, 2004, 03:37:46 PM
If your having doubts on Tarantinos writing ability...just read the Reservoir Dogs screenplay.  Good storytellers dont mean they have to be able to move an audience. 


speaking of Kill Bill,  Tarantino choreographed all of the fights and hes not even a martial arts choregrapher!   
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 26, 2004, 05:08:22 PM
Scorscese never really had any moving movies either, but he's a great film maker.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Shallow on September 26, 2004, 06:20:52 PM
If your having doubts on Tarantinos writing ability...just read the Reservoir Dogs screenplay.  Good storytellers dont mean they have to be able to move an audience. 


speaking of Kill Bill,  Tarantino choreographed all of the fights and hes not even a martial arts choregrapher!   


I don't want to imply that I think he is a bad writer, but a couple of great scripts doesn't make you one of the greats. He's no Shakespeare.

I don't know what your trying to imply by saying he choreographed the fight scenes.







And for Si-ko'tic; Scorscese has way more classics than Tarantino, and Raging Bull is very moving, and Taxi Driver is also up there.

Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Javier on September 26, 2004, 08:05:37 PM
Scorcese has been making movies since the 70s!  Of course he is going to have more classics.  Name me a filmmaker thats non asian who has choregraphed martial arts.

Bruce Willis, Travolta, Samuel L Jackson, David Carradine have  all said that Tarantinos writing is just AMAZING writing. 

Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Shallow on September 27, 2004, 07:57:50 AM
Scorcese has been making movies since the 70s!  Of course he is going to have more classics.  Name me a filmmaker thats non asian who has choregraphed martial arts.

Bruce Willis, Travolta, Samuel L Jackson, David Carradine have  all said that Tarantinos writing is just AMAZING writing. 




1.) With in his first 18 of feature film directing Scorsese had better movies than Tarantino, who's been directing since '87.

2.) Steven Segal choreographed and produced a lot of films.

3.) Why are you using the opinions of b-level actors to prove someone is a good writer? It would like me saying that Patrick Swayze called Ja Rule the gretest rapper of all time, or 50 Cent, Jay Z, and Big Boii all said Scarface was the greatest movie of all time, and trying to use that to ge a point across. It just doesn't work.. You should try to use relevent critics.

When Tarantino wins a pulizter I'll consider him a great writer. Writing a few movies does not make someone a great writer, comparatively speaking. I'm sure he's a very good writer, but would you put him on a top 100 writers list of all time? I wouldn't.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 27, 2004, 06:06:33 PM

And for Si-ko'tic; Scorscese has way more classics than Tarantino, and Raging Bull is very moving, and Taxi Driver is also up there.



Yes, Raging Bull was moving. I dunno about Taxi Driver though, unless blowing off some guys hand off makes you shed a tear lol
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Shallow on September 27, 2004, 08:14:13 PM

And for Si-ko'tic; Scorscese has way more classics than Tarantino, and Raging Bull is very moving, and Taxi Driver is also up there.



Yes, Raging Bull was moving. I dunno about Taxi Driver though, unless blowing off some guys hand off makes you shed a tear lol




I was reffering more to the relationship between De Niro and the young prostitute played by Jodie Foster. It really touched me the way a physco like that saved her and allowed her to get her life back. It was portrayed quite well in my opinion.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 27, 2004, 08:36:04 PM

And for Si-ko'tic; Scorscese has way more classics than Tarantino, and Raging Bull is very moving, and Taxi Driver is also up there.



Yes, Raging Bull was moving. I dunno about Taxi Driver though, unless blowing off some guys hand off makes you shed a tear lol




I was reffering more to the relationship between De Niro and the young prostitute played by Jodie Foster. It really touched me the way a physco like that saved her and allowed her to get her life back. It was portrayed quite well in my opinion.

I feel ya.

You didn't find Harvey Keitel's loyalty to Tim Roth in Reservoir Dogs moving? He  was determined to help a stranger that turned out to fuck him over in the end. I know I can relate to that.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Shallow on September 27, 2004, 08:43:33 PM

And for Si-ko'tic; Scorscese has way more classics than Tarantino, and Raging Bull is very moving, and Taxi Driver is also up there.



Yes, Raging Bull was moving. I dunno about Taxi Driver though, unless blowing off some guys hand off makes you shed a tear lol




I was reffering more to the relationship between De Niro and the young prostitute played by Jodie Foster. It really touched me the way a physco like that saved her and allowed her to get her life back. It was portrayed quite well in my opinion.

I feel ya.

You didn't find Harvey Keitel's loyalty to Tim Roth in Reservoir Dogs moving? He  was determined to help a stranger that turned out to fuck him over in the end. I know I can relate to that.


Well, I'll watch it again and judge, but from what I remember it wasn't as goood as the Scorsese stuff. I'll give it another shot though. Keep in mind, it's not about the plot itself but the way it was done on film. We're judging directing, not drama writing. A bad director can take the best script in the world and turn out a shitty movie, while a great director can take a terrible script and and create very watchable movie.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 27, 2004, 09:20:24 PM
It's nowhere near Scorscese, but I still consider it better than most directors out today.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Shallow on September 27, 2004, 09:27:16 PM
It's nowhere near Scorscese, but I still consider it better than most directors out today.

That's fine. My problem is how so many people claim that Quentin in a league of his own, above all other directors.
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Kill on September 28, 2004, 06:20:44 AM
quentin, no competition



whoa nice, 1200 3610 posts
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 29, 2004, 10:50:48 PM
It's nowhere near Scorscese, but I still consider it better than most directors out today.

That's fine. My problem is how so many people claim that Quentin in a league of his own, above all other directors.


I agree with you to the fullest...
Title: Re: Quentin Tarantino vs. Kevin Smith
Post by: DAYUM on October 02, 2004, 10:21:40 PM
Quentin Tarantino

good director n shit but horrible actor