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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 18, 2005, 01:37:11 AM
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Well I never even asked myself this question until this morning, to me Regulate was in my top10 of all time, etc. This mornin on the way to work (im at work now), i was bumpin conversation..
basically to me, the production is pretty much equal, if not doper on Conversation. Warren G was at his prime on both.
And lyrics are by far better than Regulate.
One thing that Regulate has on Conversation is the title song, which is the standout track. Conversation doesn't really have one timeless song like that, huge song that everybody knows.
But other than that, the beats on Conversation are nuts, and Soopafly gave them a banger too.
They both have the same artists on it, 5 Footaz Twinz Warren G & Dove Shack. Only warren's has nate too.
I've bumped Regulate more, but im tending to say as an album Conversation is doper!
what ya'll think?
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nope, regulate is a more complete record than conversation although conversation ain't no joke either, 2 g-funk classics, baaaaaby!!!
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Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era"
This album to me is on par with Doggystyle and The Chronic. When that Warren G CD came out it was my ERA for real. We used to listen to this while getting kicked out of class, I still remember to this day buying that CD in the old record store in Exeter that was just up from GAP and just down from Virgin Megastore... Seer' do you remember that shop? was it Solo Records? I baught it and just had to shoot home to listen to it right away! Got so addicted that I went to the Warren G/Twinz/5 Footaz/Adina Howard/Whitehead Brothers concert in Hammersmich Apollo London and had to oppurtunity to met Neb Luv and Jah Skillz, and stay in touch with them.
Anyway Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era" can never be beaten to me and I expect anyone from the Old School . . .
But I agree with you that the TWINZ CD was perfect G Funk.
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Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era"
This album to me is on par with Doggystyle and The Chronic. When that Warren G CD came out it was my ERA for real. We used to listen to this while getting kicked out of class, I still remember to this day buying that CD in the old record store in Exeter that was just up from GAP and just down from Virgin Megastore... Seer' do you remember that shop? was it Solo Records? I baught it and just had to shoot home to listen to it right away! Got so addicted that I went to the Warren G/Twinz/5 Footaz/Adina Howard/Whitehead Brothers concert in Hammersmich Apollo London and had to oppurtunity to met Neb Luv and Jah Skillz, and stay in touch with them.
Anyway Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era" can never be beaten to me and I expect anyone from the Old School . . .
But I agree with you that the TWINZ CD was perfect G Funk.
yeah i think you're right, the symbollic value of Regulate is crazy, its a milestone for west coast hip hop.
i was just speaking MUSICALLY
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Yep, I agree with you that TWINZ album is damn near perfect, and a G Funk classic.
Hey Nima, thats one thing we agree on, considering our music tastes are very different lol...
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Yep, I agree with you that TWINZ album is damn near perfect, and a G Funk classic.
Hey Nima, thats one thing we agree on, considering our music tastes are very different lol...
haha oh well... im sure theres some other things we agree on!
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I like "Conversation" better IMO.
The Production was about the same or better on "Conversation" and lyrics were alot better then "Regulate". But the thing missing from "Conversation" is a standout track like 'Regulate' but overall its still a better album.
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I like "Conversation" better IMO.
The Production was about the same or better on "Conversation" and lyrics were alot better then "Regulate". But the thing missing from "Conversation" is a standout track like 'Regulate' but overall its still a better album.
lol you basically repeated my first post in different words.
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I like "Conversation" better IMO.
The Production was about the same or better on "Conversation" and lyrics were alot better then "Regulate". But the thing missing from "Conversation" is a standout track like 'Regulate' but overall its still a better album.
lol you basically repeated my first post in different words.
LoL...I just noticed that.
Oh Well, we got the same opinion.
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Conversation
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I gotta say "Regulate", without a doubt.
And don't get me wrong, I LOVE "Conversation". To me that's a classic, a perfect ten, 5 mic album...call it what you like. It's no doubt that the Twinz are/were lyrically above Warren and their flow is great, to say the least. But, there's something about "Regulate"... something that got me hearing it in my head when I less expect it. It's got a certain magic "Conversation" lacks.
It's got that rushed feel. Listen to Warren's rhymes... half of them seem freestyled (or written in 5 minutes). But that's the beauty of it. It's spontaneous, it's got that authentic feel to it. Something like the Wu-tang first album... which sounded intentionally rough, much like a demo or something. And their next albums, with a more polished and sometimes doper sound, can't compare, ain't got that 'magic'.
So what's more to like in "Regulate" than in "Conversation"? I could not answer that. Not in words. But "Regulate" sets me in a laid back mood, puts a smile on my face, takes me back to the old days...
And it's not because of the title track ( I gotta confess I outplayed that and I often skip it...shame on me). But what feeling you get when you hear the beat to "And ya don't stop"? What about "Supa soul sis"? "This DJ", "So many ways", "What's next"... all of them.
Maybe that's cause I (we) grew up listening to "Regulate" and I'm more emotionally attached to that. Maybe that's cause "Regulate" feels more like a family album, cause Warren shares the mic a lot and "Conversation" is 80% Twinz. I don't know.
Let me bump my G Funk Era once again...
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I'll sum it up in three words. "No Fucking Way". Thank you.
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Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era"
still remember to this day buying that CD in the old record store in Exeter that was just up from GAP and just down from Virgin Megastore... Seer' do you remember that shop? was it Solo Records?
naww.. i got some nice khakis and some dope jeans in that gap before xmas though.. LOL
For the last 15 years up until a year or so ago i only knew my way around ya city from Mary Arches down to St Davids and across to a run down warehouse we used to skate in where Staples now is.
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Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era"
still remember to this day buying that CD in the old record store in Exeter that was just up from GAP and just down from Virgin Megastore... Seer' do you remember that shop? was it Solo Records?
naww.. i got some nice khakis and some dope jeans in that gap before xmas though.. LOL
For the last 15 years up until a year or so ago i only knew my way around ya city from Mary Arches down to St Davids and across to a run down warehouse we used to skate in where Staples now is.
lol cool... Did you ever go to Reform Records? I used to work in there, its still there, tucked away behind Boots.
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ohh shit.. i do know the name of that one..
was that one where u had to go down some steps?
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umm.. It used to be just up from the Skate Shop on Fore St. Used to sell Drum & Bass, Techno and some HipHop stuff. Then it moved to behind Boots.... There was also "Binary Star" which was right next to that pub and across from GAP, right next to the Library... that was a dope Drum & Bass/HipHop shop, shame they shut.
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I'll sum it up in three words. "No Fucking Way". Thank you.
lol, no need to be harsh...........
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umm.. It used to be just up from the Skate Shop on Fore St. Used to sell Drum & Bass, Techno and some HipHop stuff. Then it moved to behind Boots.... There was also "Binary Star" which was right next to that pub and across from GAP, right next to the Library... that was a dope Drum & Bass/HipHop shop, shame they shut.
um. when it was near the the skate shop it was where a surf clothing shop now is?
btw u know that shop Krackers near there... there is another one here in taunton, the guy that owns it lives across the road from my work. last time i was down there i walked in with my mate and he was like.. wtf am i back in taunton.
the one i was thinkin of was much further away.. and was years ago.. lol... there was another record shop opposite the sex shop near the skate shop.. its gone now though
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cmon stop goin off topic man, thats like 5 posts off topic..
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this isnt gonna be a popular statement but i honestly dont like regulate. im a big warren g fan but i just dont like this album.
conversation has a....fresher.....sound to it. so ill go for conversation too.
peace
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cmon stop goin off topic man, thats like 5 posts off topic..
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Yep... Cool about Krackers, I remember that shop. I didnt know there was one in Taunton, I still havent seen your new 2 floor Virgin ::).
I remember hearing some new Twinz samples from Daz's site, they were awful. They sounded like some rookies. With G Funk dead, its hard to see Twinz doing a CD better than 'Conversation' . . . just my opinion.
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Why the hell did I say Conversation?
I meant Regulate
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nope.. we used to play bball all the time with that Regulate cd playin.. so many memories of that cd.
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^ yeah i got a grip of memories listening to Regulate
Yep... Cool about Krackers, I remember that shop. I didnt know there was one in Taunton, I still havent seen your new 2 floor Virgin ::).
wizz got sacked from there.. lol..
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^ yeah i got a grip of memories listening to Regulate
Yep... Cool about Krackers, I remember that shop. I didnt know there was one in Taunton, I still havent seen your new 2 floor Virgin ::).
wizz got sacked from there.. lol..
LOL @ Seer saying a simple line to keep goin off topic :D
Why the hell did I say Conversation?
I meant Regulate
LMAO! Now that is correct! ;)
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cool
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ya'll got me wrong... i agree that symbollically regulate is better, i have more memories of regulate too, i didnt discover twinz till real later, but i mean strictly judging musically and lyrically, conversation is superior. now impact wise, memory wise etc, of course, Regulate is in top10 of all time!
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to sum it up quite simple, they both classics, and we need a new twinz album and another warren g album
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Man Regulate is in the top 10 West Coast albums of all time, but shit.. maybe i agree.. Conversation is doper. I dunno. I love them both for real.
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let me sum this up..
to me conversation is another spin-off of regulate.. and should really be listed on the same level as the dove shack album, to me the two have always gone hand in hand.
"this is the shack" was a rehash of the sound we already heard on regulate. to me it seems like an attempt to capitalise on the success of regulate by putting out a album 1) with the title being, 2) one of the lead songs also being on regulate. thats the hook.. the rest of the album was pretty samey.. conversation was almost the same, but didnt have the obvious hook.. and therefore didnt do as well... it was samey without the stand out stuff.. a couple tracks nearly hit the spot.. but not quite.. because of this difference, and due to "summertime in the lbc" i'd put "this is the shack" higher than Conversation.. since Conversation didnt have an huge stand out tracks on that kind of level..
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For Me...Conversation was like a sequel Of regulate cuz Regulate was way to short..Its like 30min...I remember Bumpin "Summertime In the LBC" alot cuz It was on "the Show" Soundtrack/compilation and they Used to play the video alot On Much Music ...got "Conversation" a few years later after that
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to me conversation is another spin-off of regulate.. and should really be listed on the same level as the dove shack album, to me the two have always gone hand in hand.
What he siad.
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conversation shitted on dove shack's this is the shack album lyrically, rap flow, & production.
how the hell are they on the same level?.... my ass :P
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I agree with Conversation being way above This is the shack. Still dope, but not on the same level. Now, if Warren had produced the whole album, now we could be talking about another top10 classic westcoast cd.
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I believe the twinz album has more sophisticated production then regulate but the impact regulate made cant be over looked and the whole g funk era thang was just peaking and beguinning to fall and make way for the east coast resurgence....There is a world of difference between the dove shack project and the twinz project though....warren had his hands all over the twinz album .... it seemed like warren didnt do too much on dove shack...weather that was because dove shack already had an inhouse set up going on or because warren was just closer to the twinz is something I ve always wondered about... I think a thread devoted to which album was better twinz or doveshack might make for a good read...
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I honestly never liked Conversation, I bought it a few years ago and only listened to it like twice. I think Regulate is overrated too but it's still a good album.
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Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era"
This album to me is on par with Doggystyle and The Chronic. When that Warren G CD came out it was my ERA for real. We used to listen to this while getting kicked out of class, I still remember to this day buying that CD in the old record store in Exeter that was just up from GAP and just down from Virgin Megastore... Seer' do you remember that shop? was it Solo Records? I baught it and just had to shoot home to listen to it right away! Got so addicted that I went to the Warren G/Twinz/5 Footaz/Adina Howard/Whitehead Brothers concert in Hammersmich Apollo London and had to oppurtunity to met Neb Luv and Jah Skillz, and stay in touch with them.
Anyway Warren G "Regulate... G Funk Era" can never be beaten to me and I expect anyone from the Old School . . .
But I agree with you that the TWINZ CD was perfect G Funk.
yeah i think you're right, the symbollic value of Regulate is crazy, its a milestone for west coast hip hop.
i was just speaking MUSICALLY
Yeah, I agree with ya there...
I love "Sorry I Kept You" and the title track.
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I have always preferred The Twinz album over Regulate. Don't get me wrong I love Regulate, got some great memories of it, but Conversation was a lot more of a consistant album for me. Sure you didn't have a "This DJ" or "Regulate" on it, but it was very sonically coherant, and I always felt I could throw it on and listen to it the whole way through, whereas with Regulate I always skipped a couple of tracks.
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Regulate hands down. my first ever rap cd. I luv that album.
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my first ever rap cd.
LOL!!
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my first ever rap cd.
LOL!!
whats so funny?