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Title: WTF is Dre doin?
Post by: Az on March 02, 2005, 04:15:02 PM
I'd really like to know. After hearin what 50 said about Dre not giving him more beats for his new album, I can't help thinkin back to when Pac blasted Dre for being lazy and takin so long to produce a beat. 50 was in LA for 4 months and could only get 2/3 beats for his album, an Aftermath release, most anticipated rap artist release since Encore. WTF. I kinda see why hes pissed off at Dre. After GRODT 50 was saying Dre was gonna produce the majority of his 2nd album, that was over a year ago. I have nothing but respect for Dre, but lately he just seems to be a letdown. NWA reunion cancelled, he signs Rakim and the albums scrapped, Cube is rumoured to sign, that fizzles out, signs Brooklyn, wheres she gone? starts Detox, then cancels it, Joe Beast, Starts Detox again? Fuck, I expected Game to have 85% of his album done by Dre, how pissed off was I when the album dropped. Eminem got the standard 3-4 Dre tracks which sounded like the same generic 2001, shady/aftermath style we've been putting up with for years. 90% of his beats sound the same these days, same generic bass, same guitar, same keyboard sounds, same wack  female singing chrouses. People act like Snoop wont fuck wit Dre anymore, but it seems the other way round. Most common reason, Dres too busy. He can't be busy with movie scores, Bad Boys2 sounded like 2001 leftovers. What the FUCK is he up to? Detox has got a lot to live up to. No wonder Snoops fuckin wit the Neptunes if an Aftermath artist can only gets 3-4 beats off Dre in 4 months.
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Post by: Machiavelli on March 02, 2005, 04:19:18 PM
Dr. Dre is  lazy.

I bet 70% of the time he does nothing and sits home drinkin and smokin.
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Post by: quik4life on March 02, 2005, 04:35:33 PM
judge not lest ye be judged.

az
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Post by: Larrabee on March 02, 2005, 05:01:47 PM
Dre did 8 songs on Encore. But ya'll gotta remember that Dr. Dre doesn't just produce tracks, he mixes other songs that other producers have done. It's a lot more work than dude gets credit for. It's just the little shit that makes the big difference in some tracks, most recently those on the Documentary. We'll see what Dre mixed on The Massacre when it drops tomorrow.
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Post by: eS El Duque on March 02, 2005, 05:48:27 PM
dre is doin good  ;D
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on March 02, 2005, 05:52:46 PM
maybe he didnt want to. yall forgettin 50 is Eminem's artist (yeah i know he on aftermath too)
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Post by: white Boy on March 02, 2005, 05:54:57 PM
Dr. Dre is lazy.

I bet 70% of the time he does nothing and sits home drinkin and smokin.
... you realize dre is old, he has a family, he has kids... i doubt hes sitting at home getting high, shit, hes enjoying life..
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Post by: madsamoan on March 02, 2005, 07:05:58 PM
I'd really like to know. After hearin what 50 said about Dre not giving him more beats for his new album, I can't help thinkin back to when Pac blasted Dre for being lazy and takin so long to produce a beat. 50 was in LA for 4 months and could only get 2/3 beats for his album, an Aftermath release, most anticipated rap artist release since Encore. WTF. I kinda see why hes pissed off at Dre. After GRODT 50 was saying Dre was gonna produce the majority of his 2nd album, that was over a year ago. I have nothing but respect for Dre, but lately he just seems to be a letdown. NWA reunion cancelled, he signs Rakim and the albums scrapped, Cube is rumoured to sign, that fizzles out, signs Brooklyn, wheres she gone? starts Detox, then cancels it, Joe Beast, Starts Detox again? Fuck, I expected Game to have 85% of his album done by Dre, how pissed off was I when the album dropped. Eminem got the standard 3-4 Dre tracks which sounded like the same generic 2001, shady/aftermath style we've been putting up with for years. 90% of his beats sound the same these days, same generic bass, same guitar, same keyboard sounds, same wack  female singing chrouses. People act like Snoop wont fuck wit Dre anymore, but it seems the other way round. Most common reason, Dres too busy. He can't be busy with movie scores, Bad Boys2 sounded like 2001 leftovers. What the FUCK is he up to? Detox has got a lot to live up to. No wonder Snoops fuckin wit the Neptunes if an Aftermath artist can only gets 3-4 beats off Dre in 4 months.


You make a lot of good points above regarding Dr. Dre. But if it was a perfect world, Dre would produce all of 50's and Eminem's albums, produce and release Rakim's album as well as Detox and a NWA reunion. But only the man knows the answer to all the questions.
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Post by: hiphopthugsta on March 02, 2005, 07:14:02 PM
 The N.W.A. situation is not Dre's fault at all. There was alot of politics involved in that one......ie. Tomika Wright, Jerry Heller etc.
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Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on March 02, 2005, 07:23:16 PM
prolly hes getting old, he no longer has n e thing to prove, money wise hes great.

Why risk releasing lots of whack shit? Ruining his rep?
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Post by: Thuglife on March 02, 2005, 08:01:24 PM
if i was him all i would do is get crunk smoke weed and fuck bitches
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Post by: blockstar on March 02, 2005, 08:03:47 PM
Dre and Interscope gets breaded a lot more if people outside the company are going to be buying the beats:
Gwen Stefini and all those other artists with recent dre beats.
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Post by: Ozir on March 02, 2005, 09:02:28 PM
I'd really like to know. After hearin what 50 said about Dre not giving him more beats for his new album, I can't help thinkin back to when Pac blasted Dre for being lazy and takin so long to produce a beat. 50 was in LA for 4 months and could only get 2/3 beats for his album, an Aftermath release, most anticipated rap artist release since Encore. WTF. I kinda see why hes pissed off at Dre. After GRODT 50 was saying Dre was gonna produce the majority of his 2nd album, that was over a year ago. I have nothing but respect for Dre, but lately he just seems to be a letdown. NWA reunion cancelled, he signs Rakim and the albums scrapped, Cube is rumoured to sign, that fizzles out, signs Brooklyn, wheres she gone? starts Detox, then cancels it, Joe Beast, Starts Detox again? Fuck, I expected Game to have 85% of his album done by Dre, how pissed off was I when the album dropped. Eminem got the standard 3-4 Dre tracks which sounded like the same generic 2001, shady/aftermath style we've been putting up with for years. 90% of his beats sound the same these days, same generic bass, same guitar, same keyboard sounds, same wack  female singing chrouses. People act like Snoop wont fuck wit Dre anymore, but it seems the other way round. Most common reason, Dres too busy. He can't be busy with movie scores, Bad Boys2 sounded like 2001 leftovers. What the FUCK is he up to? Detox has got a lot to live up to. No wonder Snoops fuckin wit the Neptunes if an Aftermath artist can only gets 3-4 beats off Dre in 4 months.

Dre don't gotta do a damn thing!

Be grateful he's done great music for this long and is still making bangers.

Everyone is on his nuts and they all want a Dre beat.  Be grateful the man is a perfectionist.  He ain't gonna put crap out there.  If that means you gotta wait 2 or 3 years for another DIAMOND album, then fuckin' wait.  Don't rush someone who is basically making your hits because if you do, you'll end up with a piece of shit like the Masacre.

 8)
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Post by: big mat on March 02, 2005, 09:46:50 PM
if i was him all i would do is get crunk smoke weed and fuck bitches

that's why u'll never be somebody like him
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Post by: music is like magic on March 02, 2005, 10:15:08 PM
i agree the beats on the massacre that arent produced by dre are fucking better then dre's eminem's beats are better then his. on the encore album em had eight dre beats but dre was never around was he he wasnt even on the fucking album like eminem show.  the only thing dre said on encore was "what up" "yeah" and even that shit was fucking recorded so yeha i think i would like to know what the fuck is up with dre.fuck selling beats to the likes of gwen stefani and shit how about protect your fcuking rep. respect is more than money wheres dre's. plus everytime he rapping like on Ice Cube's "HELLO" he talik about fuck the rap game and on 2001 album on "Forgot About Dre" he talking "give me one more platinum plaque and fuck rap you can have it back" he got that plaque after that song so is it true. there is more album's out there i seriously thought he would have played a bigger role in Games fucking cd. fuck 50 but he would have played abigger role in his. eminem got hsi 8 beats cuz he can do it all mix like dre produce like dre so dre "trusts" his opinion and thats hella cool. but what has dre been doing ???
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Post by: Low Key on March 02, 2005, 10:22:26 PM
Dre don't gotta do a damn thing!

Be grateful he's done great music for this long and is still making bangers.

Everyone is on his nuts and they all want a Dre beat.  Be grateful the man is a perfectionist.  He ain't gonna put crap out there.  If that means you gotta wait 2 or 3 years for another DIAMOND album, then fuckin' wait.  Don't rush someone who is basically making your hits because if you do, you'll end up with a piece of shit like the Masacre.

 8)

What are you talking about? The shit he did on Encore was terrible. After about 2002, everything he has released has sounded pretty much the same. Dre just uses the same old rhetoric like he can't be touched. There is no doubt he has many classics out there, but everyone falls off. You either get to old and aren't in touch with the general demographic, or you just aren't inspired anymore. Dre happens to be plaqued with both of those symptoms. He just needs to stick to his CEO duties and let Scott Storch take over.
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Post by: 'EclipZe on March 02, 2005, 10:42:09 PM
dre got enough money to live men
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Post by: music is like magic on March 02, 2005, 11:12:17 PM
dre got enough money to live men
And respect means nothing to you man. waht ever happened for the love of the game eminem is well off to but he eats ever fucking track up every track excluiding lean back remix that shit was bunk
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Post by: Thuglife on March 02, 2005, 11:16:17 PM
yo what u say
i am gonna be the next dr dre
and all im gonn do is get CRUUUUNK and smoke BLUUUUUUNTS and fuck bad bitches for all the nights i never had bitches now im all up in dat ass bitches
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Post by: Don Seer on March 03, 2005, 03:34:34 AM


Dre been working with Busta Rhymes...


50's jealous. thats all.
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Post by: Machiavelli on March 03, 2005, 03:37:52 AM
I havent cared for a dre beat since 1999. Since then hes had like 5-10 incrediable beats, and the rest have average or wack.
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Post by: Darksider on March 03, 2005, 06:09:15 AM
he probably doing the same he was doing before 2001.droping simillair beats and people will be like ah dre fell off but then on detox well heard something completley different!
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Post by: petitnobel on March 03, 2005, 06:30:38 AM
some of yall are quite fucked up man............do you actually mean what u r writing????

yeahhhh riiiiiight, dre is lazy!!! ARE U KIDDING ME??? wtf..........he does tracks for eminem, 50 cent, game, busta, eve, gwen stefani etc
he might even have done beats for tony yayo........and u say hes being  lazy????
And he is doing his own DETOX at the moment? where u and me have all been waiting for??? most of yall hated on dre because he
cancelled detox or pushed the release date....now when hes actually focusing on detox, yall start complaining about him being lazy and
only doing 4 tracks for 50. and dont forget he is also the executive producer for the documentary and the massacre....
and he probably will be the executive for eve and busta. so what do u want more for fucks sake???? in addition to that hes the ceo of
a damn big label and hes got his family.......so dont judge on something u dont know about
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Post by: Ozir on March 03, 2005, 09:55:41 AM
^ very true
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Post by: Makaveli R.I.P. on March 03, 2005, 10:07:10 AM
dre is doin good  ;D
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Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on March 03, 2005, 11:48:05 AM
So many haters jus let it go people u know u will be buyin detox when it comes out
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Post by: Larrabee on March 03, 2005, 12:07:47 PM
So many haters jus let it go people u know u will be buyin detox when it comes out

Hahaha, real shit. I don't give a fuck what anyone says, Dre's still making the illest beats out there, maybe not for everyone's tastes, but he does not release bullshit. All the beats bump and recently, he's dropped some serious bangers. He may sample sometimes, he may have co-producers...but dope is dope in my opinion.  8)
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Post by: Low Key on March 03, 2005, 12:47:42 PM
So many haters jus let it go people u know u will be buyin detox when it comes out

If it's as good as The Chronic and 2001 were, then I will buy it. But fortunately, I can download it before it gets released, so I will be able to make my decision based off that. If it's the same mediocre crap he's been giving to all these artists, then why should I waste my money? Just cause people think Dre is the greatest? And personally, I don't think I'm hating. There is a thin line between hating and being dissatisfied by a product. I'll have to judge it when it hits the net.
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Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on March 03, 2005, 12:52:31 PM
So many haters jus let it go people u know u will be buyin detox when it comes out

If it's as good as The Chronic and 2001 were, then I will buy it. But fortunately, I can download it before it gets released, so I will be able to make my decision based off that. If it's the same mediocre crap he's been giving to all these artists, then why should I waste my money? Just cause people think Dre is the greatest? And personally, I don't think I'm hating. There is a thin line between hating and being dissatisfied by a product. I'll have to judge it when it hits the net.

wat do u cvlass as mediocre crap, rich girls is a tie beat, how we do is dope, outta control is bangin, when the gunz come out is heavy (50 singin ruins it tho) all the dre beats on encore and the documentary were dope, i like by knoc turn'al another classic, if u can name me 5 beats which were not to your standard then i wil accept your point
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Post by: Machiavelli on March 03, 2005, 01:43:18 PM
So many haters jus let it go people u know u will be buyin detox when it comes out

If it's as good as The Chronic and 2001 were, then I will buy it. But fortunately, I can download it before it gets released, so I will be able to make my decision based off that. If it's the same mediocre crap he's been giving to all these artists, then why should I waste my money? Just cause people think Dre is the greatest? And personally, I don't think I'm hating. There is a thin line between hating and being dissatisfied by a product. I'll have to judge it when it hits the net.

wat do u cvlass as mediocre crap, rich girls is a tie beat, how we do is dope, outta control is bangin, when the gunz come out is heavy (50 singin ruins it tho) all the dre beats on encore and the documentary were dope, i like by knoc turn'al another classic, if u can name me 5 beats which were not to your standard then i wil accept your point


pay puh has a good point..

I can name more then 5 below average to wack beats

 Just Loose it - Eminem
Mosh - Eminem -
'My Dad's Gone Crazy' - Eminem
Say What You Say - Eminem
Satisfaction - Eve
Let Me Blow Ya Mind -  Eve
Nas Is Coming
Family Affair - Mary J Blige
Ain't Nuttin' But Music - D12
Evil Deeds - Eminem
 Ass like that - Eminem
Big Weenie - Eminem
 Heat - 50 Cent heat
Fight Music - d12
 Eminem - The real slim shady.
American Psycho 2 - d12
Heavy Metal Rock 'n' Roll - game
 Came Up -  Stat Quo
I'm Back - Eminem
Kill You - Eminem

therse more but thats what i can off top of my head. The stuff he did with the Game and 50 were good . To me he has only done around 10 incrediable beats since 1999. Most of his work has been average to below average, and hes had a share of wack beats.



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Post by: Ozir on March 03, 2005, 01:45:30 PM
... To me he has only done around 10 incrediable beats since 1999.

You say that as if it were a bad thing.
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Post by: Machiavelli on March 03, 2005, 01:50:50 PM
... To me he has only done around 10 incrediable beats since 1999.

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

Hes made an average of  1.7 incrediable beats a year since 1999. To me thats average. Before 1999 he would make like 10 incrediable beats per year.

Dres has been just an aveage producer since 1999. Before that he was incrediable.
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Post by: music is like magic on March 03, 2005, 02:38:58 PM
So many haters jus let it go people u know u will be buyin detox when it comes out

If it's as good as The Chronic and 2001 were, then I will buy it. But fortunately, I can download it before it gets released, so I will be able to make my decision based off that. If it's the same mediocre crap he's been giving to all these artists, then why should I waste my money? Just cause people think Dre is the greatest? And personally, I don't think I'm hating. There is a thin line between hating and being dissatisfied by a product. I'll have to judge it when it hits the net.

wat do u cvlass as mediocre crap, rich girls is a tie beat, how we do is dope, outta control is bangin, when the gunz come out is heavy (50 singin ruins it tho) all the dre beats on encore and the documentary were dope, i like by knoc turn'al another classic, if u can name me 5 beats which were not to your standard then i wil accept your point


pay puh has a good point..

I can name more then 5 below average to wack beats

 Just Loose it - Eminem
Mosh - Eminem -
'My Dad's Gone Crazy' - Eminem
Say What You Say - Eminem
Satisfaction - Eve
Let Me Blow Ya Mind -  Eve
Nas Is Coming
Family Affair - Mary J Blige
Ain't Nuttin' But Music - D12
Evil Deeds - Eminem
 Ass like that - Eminem
Big Weenie - Eminem
 Heat - 50 Cent heat
Fight Music - d12
 Eminem - The real slim shady.
American Psycho 2 - d12
Heavy Metal Rock 'n' Roll - game
 Came Up -  Stat Quo
I'm Back - Eminem
Kill You - Eminem

therse more but thats what i can off top of my head. The stuff he did with the Game and 50 were good . To me he has only done around 10 incrediable beats since 1999. Most of his work has been average to below average, and hes had a share of wack beats.




actually ass like that
my dad's gone crazy
evil deeds
fight music
american pyscho pt.2 are all pretty fucking good better then the shit out there when they did come out
and name one of those artists that didnt go platinum. then talk.
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Post by: bui21 on March 03, 2005, 03:36:18 PM
dre is doing the right thing
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Post by: acbaylove on March 03, 2005, 04:26:43 PM
Hes made an average of  1.7 incrediable beats a year since 1999.

 :o ;D
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Post by: spin on March 03, 2005, 05:47:19 PM
he does a lot more than just making beat he is not just a beat maker no more... now he produces albums under his name....
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Post by: frog on March 03, 2005, 06:33:24 PM
i keep hearin that dre is coming with game.  let the west coast rise to prominence again.  you need to check out game's new joint, west coast resurrection.
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Post by: Thuglife on March 03, 2005, 08:26:10 PM
hahaha
buying music is wack