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Title: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: WestCoasta on April 20, 2005, 01:14:23 PM
"Tha Doggfather" I think is the one of the best albums from the West ever. There is hardly a wack track on that CD. A lot of people hate on it but I think it might be right with "Doggystyle" and if not it's definitely his 2nd best album. The production is flawless and it's real laid back. DJ Pooh and Daz produced most of it and the guests include Kurupt, Daz, Too $hort, Soopafly, Bad Azz, Technique, Nate Dogg, Warren G, and Tray Deee. Legendary shit for real, 1996.

1. Doggfather                               (produced by Daz) *best Daz beat ever*
2. Up Jump tha Boogie  f/Kurupt     (produced by DJ Pooh)
3. Sixx Minutes                             (produced by DJ Pooh)
4. Snoop's Upside Ya Head            (produced by DJ Pooh)
5. Gold Rush  f/ LBC Crew              (produced by Arkim and Flair)

*6. 2001                                     (produced by DJ Pooh)
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: nibs on April 20, 2005, 01:25:16 PM
i never liked that "doggfather" track.  i thought the beat was wack and repetitive.

daz has dozens of beats way hotter than that. 

other than that, i agree with you.  that album had some heaters:
snoop bounce
up jump the boogie
tear em off (me & my doggz)
2001
groupie
blueberry
doggyland
snoop's upside your head
goldrush
sixx minutes

i think the biggest problem is that the album didn't have the consistency of doggystyle, plus people weren't ready for that sound.  there isn't really anything on doggystyle that's wack.  doggfather had a couple tracks that were wack, like "freestyle conversation"; (and amusingly doggfather imho).  but it also has heat, and people never seemed to appreciate the heat.

Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 20, 2005, 01:42:12 PM
it was a cool album, i think it's underrated because most people including myself thought it was going to be as good as or even better than "doggystyle"
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: R-Tistic on April 20, 2005, 04:17:02 PM
it was a cool album, i think it's underrated because most people including myself thought it was going to be as good as or even better than "doggystyle"

Yeah basically..people didn't realize, or seem to care, that Dre wasn't doing anything related to the album. Doggystyle was one of the best albums in history, and the best ever to some, and it was his debut, so he set his standards up to a level that was basically unreachable.
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: So Much Style on April 20, 2005, 04:52:28 PM
this album is classic...if it was his first release eveyrone would praise it, they were just expecting another doggystyle.
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: broken_sword on April 20, 2005, 05:26:07 PM
i can't say i'm a big fan of the record, but it definitely has a few great songs.
in my opinion, tha last meal is a lot better than tha doggfather, though.

Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Darksider on April 20, 2005, 05:41:09 PM
dope album.but.people expected something( dre production) like cali love or natural born killer
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Post by: from the yay on April 20, 2005, 06:41:52 PM
no one understands,but to me that album is great,very original...not the replayed george clinton riffs dre did on most of the first one...just like the skit said..."ever since dre shook the speezot,word on the street is that..." you know the rest.it just goes to show the narrow one track mindedness of most consumers,no dre,they not checkin for it lolololol....
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 20, 2005, 08:05:52 PM
I thought it was his 3rd best album.
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: wballz187 on April 20, 2005, 08:34:49 PM
second best snoop album IMO.  dj pooh did his thing on this.  the only reason it wasnt any better because dre wasnt around to coach snoops' flow. 
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on April 20, 2005, 08:36:07 PM
great album and snoops second best
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: D1G1T4L on April 20, 2005, 08:43:11 PM
i liked last meal better than tha doggfather
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Wild_Elmo on April 20, 2005, 08:53:49 PM
second best snoop album IMO.  dj pooh did his thing on this.  the only reason it wasnt any better because dre wasnt around to coach snoops' flow. 
i think dre would be the last person snoop would listen to about his flow
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Wild_Elmo on April 20, 2005, 09:03:03 PM
oh yeah, as the others said, people were expecting another doggystyle. i think its a great album. people will appreciate it more if they give it another listen, compare it to the shit he's dropping now.
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: DAYUM on April 20, 2005, 11:18:57 PM
because its too west coast
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: js83 on April 20, 2005, 11:30:46 PM
because its too west coast

 ??? so was doggystyle...your point being is?
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Milk Man on April 21, 2005, 12:26:08 AM
Easily snoops second best album , Doggyland's beat is just craaaaaazay , the whole cd is tight
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: CRAFTY on April 21, 2005, 02:38:52 AM
Good question...me personally, I like the album a lot. Consistent production throughout the entire album, nice lyrics, etc...
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on April 21, 2005, 08:11:01 AM
Its a dope album and Snoops second best album but in some songs it sounds like Snoop is whispering...
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: wballz187 on April 21, 2005, 08:29:11 AM
second best snoop album IMO.  dj pooh did his thing on this.  the only reason it wasnt any better because dre wasnt around to coach snoops' flow. 
i think dre would be the last person snoop would listen to about his flow
why's that?  snoops flow, delivery was always better when dre was there to coach it.  thats what a producer does.  like dude before me says, snoop whispered alot on the doggfather.
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: lil layzie on April 21, 2005, 11:19:46 AM
In my eyes its his best lp ever,cause he proved that he doesnt need dre to sound real good!Period!Chuuuch!
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Machiavelli on April 21, 2005, 01:00:15 PM
Lyrically it was better then Doggystyle but the production doesn't match up...Still a great album
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Bomb-A® on April 21, 2005, 01:09:35 PM
i believe this is snoops 2nd best album....i liked dj pooh's beats too



peace
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Black Uhuru on April 21, 2005, 01:10:55 PM
Tight Album, Downtown Assasins is a classic track IMO
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Bomb-A® on April 21, 2005, 01:14:28 PM
^^ indeed and often forgotten....tray dee and daz ripped it better than snoop on that one 8)



peace
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Mr.Dirty on April 21, 2005, 02:04:58 PM
dope album
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 21, 2005, 03:11:27 PM
crazy album, snoop on some other shit on this...........this was back in the day when snoop was at his peak still and droppin crazy shit, his rhymes never been real complex but he spit shit like no other, and it sounds sick, i use to think what the nigga thinkin when he was making some of these joints on dogystyle n doggfather.....you'll get many rappers who are similar to others but you'll never get another snoop

peace
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: THOEDINTHEGAME on April 21, 2005, 09:17:29 PM
That's Snoop's best album imo...
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: from the yay on April 21, 2005, 09:28:40 PM
real talk
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Wild_Elmo on April 22, 2005, 05:35:52 PM
second best snoop album IMO.  dj pooh did his thing on this.  the only reason it wasnt any better because dre wasnt around to coach snoops' flow. 
i think dre would be the last person snoop would listen to about his flow
why's that?  snoops flow, delivery was always better when dre was there to coach it.  thats what a producer does.  like dude before me says, snoop whispered alot on the doggfather.
it was actually The DOC that was coaching snoop
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: C-clamp on April 22, 2005, 11:24:26 PM
I think it's snoops best album lyrically, but the mixing on that album SUCKED.  Some songs you could barely hear what snoops vocals, I think that's where he missed dre the most, snoop always sounds hungry on dre beats, and the beat never overpowers him, like it does sometimes on doggfather.

My other problem with doggfather is that it's the first time i found out snoop would use other writers for some of his shit.  Blueberry was written by bad azz and kurupt, it tarnished his image in my eyes.

But i still like the album, 2nd best IMO
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: topshotta on April 23, 2005, 08:17:38 AM
Definitely agree with what C-clamp posted, the mixing sucked big time. Why the fuck did DJ Pooh mix this the way he did?
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: lil layzie on April 23, 2005, 09:03:01 AM
Yup Tray Deee killed it on that track,with his first 2 lines GOD DAMN!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on April 24, 2005, 02:44:52 AM
Definitly is underrated. I hate the fact that peeps put such high expectations on it. Dope music is dope music. I was at Ball State when this album dropped, and our floor had that cd on repeat for months. No one bitched about it not being as good as doggystyle... we just rocked them both, and enjoyed good music. Snoops 2nd best, easily.
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Black Uhuru on April 24, 2005, 07:20:22 AM
I think it's snoops best album lyrically, but the mixing on that album SUCKED. Some songs you could barely hear what snoops vocals, I think that's where he missed dre the most, snoop always sounds hungry on dre beats, and the beat never overpowers him, like it does sometimes on doggfather.

My other problem with doggfather is that it's the first time i found out snoop would use other writers for some of his shit. Blueberry was written by bad azz and kurupt, it tarnished his image in my eyes.

But i still like the album, 2nd best IMO
Snoop didnt rap on Blueberry just did some talking at the end. The mixing is terrible on some songs though
Title: Re: Why is Snoop's "Tha Doggfather" underrated?
Post by: Westside Soldier on April 25, 2005, 12:32:34 AM
"Tha Doggfather" I think is the one of the best albums from the West ever. There is hardly a wack track on that CD. A lot of people hate on it but I think it might be right with "Doggystyle" and if not it's definitely his 2nd best album. The production is flawless and it's real laid back. DJ Pooh and Daz produced most of it and the guests include Kurupt, Daz, Too $hort, Soopafly, Bad Azz, Technique, Nate Dogg, Warren G, and Tray Deee. Legendary shit for real, 1996.

1. Doggfather                               (produced by Daz) *best Daz beat ever*
2. Up Jump tha Boogie  f/Kurupt     (produced by DJ Pooh)
3. Sixx Minutes                             (produced by DJ Pooh)
4. Snoop's Upside Ya Head            (produced by DJ Pooh)
5. Gold Rush  f/ LBC Crew              (produced by Arkim and Flair)

*6. 2001                                     (produced by DJ Pooh)


its underated cause people were expecting adoggystyle and consider the album to not be ass good imo.I think the album is dope and way underated i like up jump the boget that song is dope. :)