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Title: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on November 14, 2005, 06:30:32 AM
...they played the old fight on ESPN classic.  Anybody that's seen it will agree.  The ten count for Buster was much slower than the ten count for Tyson, and like Buster, Tyson got up on "9", but the ref still counted him out.  Mike didn't get knocked out, he got knocked down, and then he looked to grab his mouthpiece and then he got up on "9" but the ref still counted him out.

Don King actually tried to put the fight up for appeal afterwards.  I'm suprised more hasn't been said about this.

Anyone else seen what I'm talkin about?
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: Trauma-san on November 14, 2005, 06:58:53 AM
Only thing I see is that you don't know anything about boxing.  The 10 count isn't a race to your feet. 
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on November 14, 2005, 07:03:52 AM
Only thing I see is that you don't know anything about boxing.  The 10 count isn't a race to your feet. 

Maybe you could quit acting like a baybe and try explaining it to me instead of still crying about a post that was made in a different section of the forum that is totally unrelated. 

...btw, I don't know anything about boxing and never claimed to, I didn't know I had to be an expert on boxing before I could qualify to make a post about Mike Tyson in the Sports and Entertainment section of the dubcc.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. chec
Post by: mauzip on November 14, 2005, 07:09:21 AM
Is Mike Tyson muslim?
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: Trauma-san on November 14, 2005, 07:25:10 AM
Only thing I see is that you don't know anything about boxing.  The 10 count isn't a race to your feet. 

Maybe you could quit acting like a baybe and try explaining it to me instead of still crying about a post that was made in a different section of the forum that is totally unrelated. 

...btw, I don't know anything about boxing and never claimed to, I didn't know I had to be an expert on boxing before I could qualify to make a post about Mike Tyson in the Sports and Entertainment section of the dubcc.

What post are you talking about?  You're a loser on any post, it doesnt matter what section of the forum it's in. 

You say you don't have to know anything about Boxing, then how do you know he got cheated?  You're making a comment, on the job the referree did, but yet you dont' even know the rules of the game, or anything about how boxing works.  How do you know the ref "cheated" tyson, then?  You don't even know the sport but yet you know he was cheated?  How?  Explain yourself. 


And yeah, in case anybody doesn't realize it, Iron Mike Tyson converted to Islam. 
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on November 14, 2005, 03:41:32 PM
Your taking this thread way to serious, it's just a sports thread talking about an issue that happened many years ago.

And after the match they had a big meeting about this issue with the promotors, heads of the boxing commission, and the referee, but ultimately they decided that the desicion was going to stand.  I don't know that much about boxing, but I have watched alot of Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali fights and I like following their carears. 

It's no big deal though, forget it.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. chec
Post by: mauzip on November 15, 2005, 02:52:14 AM
This belongs in Train Of Thought.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. chec
Post by: Don Seer on November 15, 2005, 03:02:32 AM
Is Mike Tyson muslim?

lmao yes..
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. chec
Post by: Don Jacob on November 15, 2005, 10:47:05 AM
Is Mike Tyson muslim?
yeah ....that's the only reason why he cares


dude infinite ....Mike got served like a drive thru, and it was no ones fault except his OWN
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on November 15, 2005, 03:27:28 PM
...they played the old fight on ESPN classic.  Anybody that's seen it will agree.  The ten count for Buster was much slower than the ten count for Tyson, and like Buster, Tyson got up on "9", but the ref still counted him out.  Mike didn't get knocked out, he got knocked down, and then he looked to grab his mouthpiece and then he got up on "9" but the ref still counted him out.

Don King actually tried to put the fight up for appeal afterwards.  I'm suprised more hasn't been said about this.

Anyone else seen what I'm talkin about?

i seen it a million times, dont think the ref CHEATED for Buster tho. I mean, when Douglas got up...he wasnt OUT like Tyson was. Tyson couldnt even find his mouthpiece that was layin right in front of his face.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. chec
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on November 15, 2005, 03:32:13 PM
Somebody hook it up so we can see and decide.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. chec
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on November 16, 2005, 07:56:14 PM
Somebody hook it up so we can see and decide.

^^^ Good idea.  I'd like ya'll to take a look at it.  Ofcourse if you just got hit like Mike got hit you might be dizzy for a second... and it wasn't that he couldn't find his mouthpiece, he just couldn't pick it up with his glove, and as he was getting up he was telling the ref everything was okay.

Somebody hook it up.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: Shallow on November 16, 2005, 08:22:51 PM
Tyson was still a Christian (sort of) at that point. You sure you want to defend him?


In all seriousness. Boxing was built on bullshit and fixed fights. It's the only way to make big money. When Jack Johnson was finally beat by Carnera, nobody cared that Johnson had Carnera destroyed in the points department and would have won in a standard fight. They only cared that the black guy was finally beat by the white guy. Who cares if Johnson was way past his prime and lost in like the 27th round? Not the white hicks that bought tickets. Nobody cares why Foreman never got a rematch with Ali (even though he asked for one and was adamant about it up until the early 80s. He changed his story in '94 and said he never wantred a rematch but I've seen the tapes of him saying otherwise) or why Duran walked out of his fight against Leonard in the early rounds. The answer is all connected to money. They need a white champ to sell tickets to racists, they had no fights left for Foreman as champ to make money, and a Duran/Leonard split would make for a huge 3rd fight.


With Tyson and Douglas it makes no sense to have a loser like Douglas beat Tyson. The money fight was with Holyfield and Tyson which was scheduled already, but Tyson lost a fight he wasn't supposed to. Holyfield then absolutely killed Douglas and Buster fell to the way side and pretty much never came back. Tyson was gone after getting KOed. Anyone who says otherwise didn't look in his eyes. It's not just that he could get his mouth piece it's that he stumbled back and forth to get it. Douglas got up when he was knocked down and he was ready for action. Tyson wasn't. Believe me. No one wanted Tyson to lose to Douglas. They wanted him to lose to Holyfield. When Tyson left Holyfield had to try and rebuild the division. Something he never did. An aging Foreman was the biggest Heavyweight Draw in Holyfield reign, until Tyson came back.

Tyson got beat plain and simple. If he wasn't an idiot and kept his original corner instead of his black supremist buddies in the corner then he would have won. Black power is great if you're looking for identity but don't turn your back on Whitey (Kevin "Whitey" Rooney) when your black power friends don't know shit about boxing. They have been called the most incompetent corner in the history of boxing. Rightfully so.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: Soulful on November 17, 2005, 04:18:53 AM
its cool that u followed mike n mohammed's careers, many people that aint interested in boxing are still impressed by these two guys, like if u go to a poor country where most people dont got tv's etc., the little kids over there still know about tyson n mohammed ali, n dont know shit about lennox lewis or oscar de la hoya etc. n i dont belive it has anything to do with them being muslims.

anyways ima tell u this from a boxers point of view, even if tyson would have gotten up it would have been a tko 5 sec later, they would have stopped the fight. he had alot of heart n wanted to keep fighting as we all can see but, he was finished belive me.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. chec
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 17, 2005, 09:34:04 AM
Is Mike Tyson muslim?

lmao yes..

pure comedy
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on November 18, 2005, 06:10:38 AM

You sure you want to defend him?


I think Tyson has a good heart, I don't care what anyone says, Allah knows him best.  Alot of people took advantage of him and the media turned his life into a circus so they could profit off of him.  Mike has many shortcomings no doubt, but he's shown time and time again that he's got a good heart, and that he's sincere about trying to turn his life around, and pick himself up when he falls.

When he went to prison he could have let his heart turn cold and become savage, but instead he had the courage to turn to Allah, and Allah is most merciful to his servants.  Ya'll don't know the mercy of Allah, and even though ya'll don't see it, Allah is raising and elevating his sincere believers.  Allah knows best Mike's sincerity, and Allah is best to judge, this is just my personal evaluation of Mike Tyson, obviously I don't know him personally or anything.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: Shallow on November 18, 2005, 06:52:16 AM

You sure you want to defend him?


I think Tyson has a good heart, I don't care what anyone says, Allah knows him best.  Alot of people took advantage of him and the media turned his life into a circus so they could profit off of him.  Mike has many shortcomings no doubt, but he's shown time and time again that he's got a good heart, and that he's sincere about trying to turn his life around, and pick himself up when he falls.

When he went to prison he could have let his heart turn cold and become savage, but instead he had the courage to turn to Allah, and Allah is most merciful to his servants.  Ya'll don't know the mercy of Allah, and even though ya'll don't see it, Allah is raising and elevating his sincere believers.  Allah knows best Mike's sincerity, and Allah is best to judge, this is just my personal evaluation of Mike Tyson, obviously I don't know him personally or anything.

Relax, it was just a joke. But Mike Tyson hasn't really been all that better off after Islam or even before fame. He was a really bad kid who did a lot of shit that was covered up when he was in his amateur years, and after coming out of jail he's bitten off ears, gotten in to fights in bars and on the street. This guy has found no peace. A man at peace with God doesn't threaten to eat another man's children.
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: Soulful on November 18, 2005, 07:26:10 AM
yea..he touched cuz d'amatos assistants 13 year old sister before he became the world champion..n her brother(the trainer assistant) put a gun to mikes head n he started cryin n felt really bad about what he had done..mike tyson clearly has mental issues imo n hes been eatin antidepressive for years(not that its anything wrong with it). I saw a good documentary where he actually talk himself also..he talked about how he hates himself n hates hes fans because his fans loved a person that he hated..same documentary where cuz d'amatos assistant told about that incident with hes sister..n people always treated mike bad n made fun of him wen he was a kid because of hes voice n because he was fat..i felt bad about bad for the guy when i watched it..people are responsible for their own actions but hes a sick person that needs help..hes done as a fighter n should quit fighting imo..but he says its the only thing he ever been good at..

long ass post sorry
Title: Re: Tyson Beat Buster Douglass... The Referee Cheated for Buster Douglass.. check it
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on November 18, 2005, 03:48:43 PM

You sure you want to defend him?


I think Tyson has a good heart, I don't care what anyone says, Allah knows him best.  Alot of people took advantage of him and the media turned his life into a circus so they could profit off of him.  Mike has many shortcomings no doubt, but he's shown time and time again that he's got a good heart, and that he's sincere about trying to turn his life around, and pick himself up when he falls.

When he went to prison he could have let his heart turn cold and become savage, but instead he had the courage to turn to Allah, and Allah is most merciful to his servants.  Ya'll don't know the mercy of Allah, and even though ya'll don't see it, Allah is raising and elevating his sincere believers.  Allah knows best Mike's sincerity, and Allah is best to judge, this is just my personal evaluation of Mike Tyson, obviously I don't know him personally or anything.

honestly, Tyson has been worse off after prison then before it. The difference between Mike "now" and Mike "then" (before prison) is that he is a better con man now then before. He is smarter...in a sense. In his prime, he didnt need a personality...or ANYthing, because his pure dominance was enough to make a big draw at the box office. Fighters were scared of him...and he won fights before they started. After prison, no one has feared him in the ring. Holyfield exposed his weaknesses and beat him twice....Lewis dominated him. So now...he creates revenue by acting like a psycho. I agree, he isnt the animal he makes himself out to be. I think its mostly for show. But his mind is obviously fucked up after prison. Im not sayin that has anything to do with Islam at all. To me, Tyson's self esteem was fragile at best even when he was in his prime. All his confidence in life, came from fighting. He was always treated as a no one comin up, but his fists allowed him to become important. Then all of a sudden...he went from being a nobody, to one of the biggest superstars in the world. Then, just that fast....he was nobody again when he went to prison. A normal person MAYBE could deal with that without losing their mind....Tyson isnt normal lol.