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Title: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 19, 2007, 12:18:04 AM
Los Angeles Lakers @ Phoenix Suns.
Round 1, Game 1.
Sunday April 22nd, 2007.
12:00 PM (Pacific) on ABC.

Sweet revenge! I like the Lakers' chances in this series, more so than last season. Lakers are a year older as a team and are FINALLY getting their groove back with EVERYONE (minus Chris Mihm) ready to play. Still so many questions though...Will Jordan Farmar start at point guard? I don't know. But I do know we have a much better team than we did 1 year ago...And who will be left off the playoff roster? I'm assuming it'll be Shammond Williams and Aaron McKie, which could hurt...I'm ready for the Lakers to tear into the overrated Suns. Who do ya'll think will take this series? Post your thoughts here...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 19, 2007, 12:40:53 AM
There is one Key : Defense.. if we can slow it down during most of the series , we'll win.. don't forget last year in the 3 wins, Suns scored under 100 pts.. I hope EVERY player will enter this series focused and not making stupid mistakes...  the thing I wonder is can we increase the level of our defense intensity i.e stay with the shooters and don't let opening lanes ect.. offensive wise Lamar has to abuse (no homo) Marion as he did last year by posting him up, Luke has to do the same thing with Barbosa, be aware we're bigger at each position (unless Diaw starts) so I DO hope we aren"t jacking 3s like morons.. we can do it, players have to use last year as motivation.. Ronny , if staying outside foul troubles, can be a key factor in this battle.. to be honest I'm way more worry about weak mentality of most of the roster than any other things
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 19, 2007, 12:48:51 AM
There is one Key : Defense.. if we can slow it down during most of the series , we'll win.. don't forget last year in the 3 wins, Suns scored under 100 pts.. I hope EVERY player will enter this series focused and not making stupid mistakes...  the thing I wonder is can we increase the level of our defense intensity i.e stay with the shooters and don't let opening lanes ect.. offensive wise Lamar has to abuse (no homo) Marion as he did last year by posting him up, Luke has to do the same thing with Barbosa, be aware we're bigger at each position (unless Diaw starts) so I DO hope we aren"t jacking 3s like morons.. we can do it, players have to use last year as motivation.. Ronny , if staying outside foul troubles, can be a key factor in this battle.. to be honest I'm way more worry about weak mentality of most of the roster than any other things


I believe Phil will have them mentally prepared.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 19, 2007, 12:52:21 AM
by the way , here's the schedule


Game 1 - Sun  April 22  L.A. Lakers at Phoenix   12:00PM  3:00PM ABC/R
Game 2 - Tue  April 24  L.A. Lakers at Phoenix   7:30PM   10:30PM TNT
Game 3 - Thu  April 26  Phoenix at L.A. Lakers   7:30PM   10:30PM TNT
Game 4 - Sun  April 29  Phoenix at L.A. Lakers   12:30PM  3:30PM ABC/R
Game 5 * Wed  May 2     L.A. Lakers at Phoenix   TBD      TBD    TBD
Game 6 * Fri  May 4     Phoenix at L.A. Lakers   TBD      TBD    TBD
Game 7 * Sun  May 6     L.A. Lakers at Phoenix   TBD      TBD    TBD
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 19, 2007, 01:12:00 AM
How many games do you see this series going?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: J$crILLa on April 19, 2007, 01:14:57 AM

PHO 4 LAL 1

sorry lakers fans
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Halu Sination on April 19, 2007, 01:32:25 AM
hope nobody jinxes it like the ucla florida game lol
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 19, 2007, 01:39:32 AM
4-2 for us.. I think we'll take the 1st then lose the 2nd and won 3, 4, 6 at home
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Don Jacob on April 19, 2007, 02:45:02 AM
i dont' know the suns have  all the same offensive 'weapons' as last time PLUS amare, so im a little nervous

based on we we've done the past 10 games  suns 4- lakers 2..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 19, 2007, 06:29:20 AM
REVENGE!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: eS El Duque on April 19, 2007, 07:17:34 AM
lmao...peace out lakers
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 19, 2007, 08:28:24 AM
lmao...peace out lakers

Wanna bet your account on that?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: thisoneguy360 on April 19, 2007, 09:26:25 AM
I think Phoniex will win i'd love for La to though
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 19, 2007, 09:30:31 AM
I've been waiting for this since last year. I can't wait, as revenge is in the eyes.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 19, 2007, 10:11:23 AM
4-2 Lakers.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 19, 2007, 10:44:19 AM
People sleeping on the Lakers again...Ya'll shoulda learned after what happened last year (3-1). Phil has the key to destroying the Suns, it's all a matter of whether the Lakers execute it or not...And I truly believe Phil has them prepared for this time of year. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 19, 2007, 01:29:57 PM
Who wanna bet his account with me? I did it 12 months ago, and i've lost it. This time i won't.

C'mon.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on April 19, 2007, 01:47:23 PM
Who wanna bet his account with me? I did it 12 months ago, and i've lost it. This time i won't.

C'mon.

Your Karma must really hurt you.




 ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 19, 2007, 01:48:49 PM
Who wanna bet his account with me? I did it 12 months ago, and i've lost it. This time i won't.

C'mon.

I bet Baby G will do it... :D
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 19, 2007, 05:50:30 PM
Lakers in 7.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 19, 2007, 06:14:45 PM
Who wanna bet his account with me? I did it 12 months ago, and i've lost it. This time i won't.

C'mon.

I bet Baby G will do it... :D

Lol you love having me in your mouth don't you?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: mrceo on April 19, 2007, 07:21:55 PM
The Lakers definitely have a chance to win this series, but it totally depends on Kwame and Bynum, if the Lakers lose it's because of weak play in the post, Amare is hungry and of course the Suns have Nash, and I actually think Farmar would be better at PG imo, but i'm gonna have to go with the Suns in 6
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 19, 2007, 08:19:53 PM
Lakers in 6.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 19, 2007, 08:23:51 PM
(http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4166/playoffs1smallic7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 19, 2007, 09:57:54 PM
^Now that's just nutty.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 19, 2007, 10:09:04 PM
I just think the Suns are gonna be too much.  I think they'll take it in 6.  Thing is, on any given night Kobe can take over - so thats good for a couple wins right there.  But he's def gonna need some real help.  I know he's in phenomenal condition but he's gonna get gassed if the series stretches out to long and he's carrying the entire load.  If there was ever a time for one of LA's young bucks to officially bust on the scene it's right now. 

Can't wait to watch this series though.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 19, 2007, 10:12:59 PM
It all rests on Kwame and Odom.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Halu Sination on April 19, 2007, 10:15:54 PM
It all rests on Kwame and Odom.

yup. prior to his injury, odom used to be able to dominate at will against the suns. and kwame could possibly be the deciding factor.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 19, 2007, 10:31:12 PM
^Now that's just nutty.
What?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 19, 2007, 11:17:20 PM
^Now that's just nutty.
What?
It's a compliment. Nutty = crazy, insane, cool, etc.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 20, 2007, 01:58:59 AM
Who wanna bet his account with me? I did it 12 months ago, and i've lost it. This time i won't.

C'mon.

Your Karma must really hurt you.




 ;D ;D

Not really. :P
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on April 20, 2007, 08:32:31 AM
Who wanna bet his account with me? I did it 12 months ago, and i've lost it. This time i won't.

C'mon.

Your Karma must really hurt you.




 ;D ;D

Not really. :P

*diss*
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 20, 2007, 11:33:27 AM
No problem. I'm about to eat in one of the best restaurants in Lecce (i mean italian restaurants, you know what i'm saying? Not your bullshit german ones :P)(oh, and italians do it better, but you already know), with very important people from the UN (United Nations) Organization. And then i'll probably fuck my wife, later in the night. So i'm cool anyway, don't trip. :P
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 20, 2007, 11:52:16 AM
^^^^ lol we both know French and Italian food are WAY better than any other countries one  :P
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 20, 2007, 01:43:44 PM
^Now that's just nutty.
What?
It's a compliment. Nutty = crazy, insane, cool, etc.
oh cause u put it in other word aiight cool 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 20, 2007, 02:54:37 PM
Who wanna bet his account with me? I did it 12 months ago, and i've lost it. This time i won't.

C'mon.

I bet Baby G will do it... :D

Lol you love having me in your mouth don't you?


Please stop with the fantasies. :-X
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 20, 2007, 03:00:49 PM
kwame could possibly be the deciding factor.


I agree with this.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 20, 2007, 03:02:03 PM
No problem. I'm about to eat in one of the best restaurants in Lecce (i mean italian restaurants, you know what i'm saying? Not your bullshit german ones :P)(oh, and italians do it better, but you already know), with very important people from the UN (United Nations) Organization. And then i'll probably fuck my wife, later in the night. So i'm cool anyway, don't trip. :P


You're married?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: d-nice on April 20, 2007, 03:04:58 PM
It all rests on Kwame and Odom.

With the x factors being Ronny Turiaf and Andrew Bynum. They get a big series from them and I don't see Phoenix winning this series.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 20, 2007, 03:16:14 PM
Yea, but Kwame is the main difference-maker. If he can hold his on the defensive end (like he usually does) and makes the shots he's handed, then the series is ours, no doubt. I almost had a heart attack when I heard Kwame might not play in the playoffs...But yea, Suns are a weak overall team, especially in the post-season. If our bigs do what they're asked, it should be no problem to advance. Now, when we face Dallas or San Anotnio, THAT'S where the real challenge is at IMO.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: $Eg2$ on April 20, 2007, 03:17:41 PM
ANy1 see PTI wilbon and Tony said Lakers will win one game or be sweept LOL I hate those fuckin guys I think I will stop watching there homer Biased ass show.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: d-nice on April 20, 2007, 03:21:39 PM
Yea, but Kwame is the main difference-maker. If he can hold his on the defensive end (like he usually does) and makes the shots he's handed, then the series is ours, no doubt. I almost had a heart attack when I heard Kwame might not play in the playoffs...But yea, Suns are a weak overall team, especially in the post-season. If our bigs do what they're asked, it should be no problem to advance. Now, when we face Dallas or San Anotnio, THAT'S where the real challenge is at IMO.

Oh definitely Kwame is key but if Ronny and Drew bring it off the bench that is a added plus. I think I have watched 10-15 Suns games and they sometimes play a 7 or 8 man rotation. That shit will hurt you sooner or later, and now that the playoffs have started and when Phoenix's starters get tired or in foul trouble, that will cause problems. They really only go to Barbosa and Thomas on the regular. The rest are in and out of the dog house with Dantoni.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on April 20, 2007, 04:15:44 PM
No problem. I'm about to eat in one of the best restaurants in Lecce (i mean italian restaurants, you know what i'm saying? Not your bullshit german ones :P)(oh, and italians do it better, but you already know), with very important people from the UN (United Nations) Organization. And then i'll probably fuck my wife, later in the night. So i'm cool anyway, don't trip. :P

-1 for the next week
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: J @ M @ L on April 20, 2007, 06:04:30 PM
^^^^ lol we both know French and Italian food are WAY better than any other countries one  :P

An argument can be made for Italian food... but you faggots eat snails.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 21, 2007, 12:40:06 AM
^^^^ lol you never have eat in France .. the only thing you have eaten is French Fries  :-X... I ain't gonna waste time on some internet beef with you so shut the fuck up
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 21, 2007, 12:46:24 AM
No problem. I'm about to eat in one of the best restaurants in Lecce (i mean italian restaurants, you know what i'm saying? Not your bullshit german ones :P)(oh, and italians do it better, but you already know), with very important people from the UN (United Nations) Organization. And then i'll probably fuck my wife, later in the night. So i'm cool anyway, don't trip. :P

You're married?

Yes i am. And i have a 1 year old daughter.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 21, 2007, 01:55:18 AM
godamn thats kind of scary when the X-factor could be how well Kwame Brown plays in this series and with that said I like the Lakers in 7.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 21, 2007, 08:48:22 AM
Suns in 5/6 easy games. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 21, 2007, 11:31:55 AM
No problem. I'm about to eat in one of the best restaurants in Lecce (i mean italian restaurants, you know what i'm saying? Not your bullshit german ones :P)(oh, and italians do it better, but you already know), with very important people from the UN (United Nations) Organization. And then i'll probably fuck my wife, later in the night. So i'm cool anyway, don't trip. :P

You're married?

Yes i am. And i have a 1 year old daughter.


Never knew that... Congrats.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 21, 2007, 05:32:33 PM
If they're worried about Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire, Shawn Marion and a quick playoff exit at the hands of the Phoenix Suns, it's not overly obvious.

How can it be, when their coach quotes an Oscar-winning song from a movie about a struggling Memphis pimp who attempts to forge a rap career?

"It's hard out here for a pimp," Phil Jackson said, evoking laughter from more than a dozen media members Friday at the team's training facility in El Segundo.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakerep21apr21,1,4840410



 :laugh:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 21, 2007, 10:56:41 PM
I think Luke is going to have bad series...that ankle injury is killing him right now..he hasn't being able to finish around the basket for the last couple of games & he also has a hard time gettin back on defense....Mo Evens is gonna have to step ut up...

Lamar needs to post up every chance he gets....don't settle for those stupid 3's...and don't get sloppy with the ball...And if he could play the defense on Marion that he played last year then the Lakers have a chance to advance to the second round

Kobe needs to play smart defense...

I think our PG's are a little better this time....Farmar is a PG that sets his teammates up unlike Smush & plays defense, does a good job running the triangle offense.....he also does a good job attacking the basket unlike smush......and i thought Sasha did a good job on Nash in the last game of the season...hopefully he does that shit in the playoffs and also he needs to hit his open shots...and don't get the LAkers in the penalty...sometimes he's to aggressive on defense.

I think Kwame and Ronny are going to give amare a hard time if we could make it a half court game...Kwame has an Ankle injury so is also going to be tough for him to get back on defense...Lakers really need to slow the pace down like they did last season...Kwame , Ronny & Bynum Also have to step it up on offense....get them the ball in the post.....Ronny has shown he could hit the Mid-Range Jumper..hopefully he could do it in the playoffs.


It's going to be tough to win this series....we haven't played defense all year and we're going to all of a sudden start playing great defense...and also our execution on offense has been poor lately....they need to fix that...let's see what happens....i really want the Lakers to beat those fags!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: J$crILLa on April 22, 2007, 01:09:08 AM
Suns... phoenix and Dallas are easily the best teams out west.... no question, maybe SA got a chance on them
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 22, 2007, 01:24:07 AM
LETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LAKEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 22, 2007, 01:41:46 AM
Suns... phoenix and Dallas are easily the best teams out west.... no question, maybe SA got a chance on them
Suns have no chance in a 7 series against SAS ...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 22, 2007, 01:43:21 AM
LETS GO LAKERS... will do the same as I did last year for Game 4... having a barbecue and watching the game  8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 22, 2007, 10:02:44 AM
They'll show it at 9 pm here. FINALLY. Last night i've seen a good game (Bulls-Heat), let's hope to see another exciting game tonight. GO LAKERSSSSSSS!!!!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 22, 2007, 10:57:55 AM
One hour left. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 22, 2007, 11:15:06 AM
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1424/remoteimage163vb2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 22, 2007, 01:06:30 PM
KOBE IS GOD
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 22, 2007, 01:08:46 PM
Have you all seen how he just finished the 2nd quarter? Damn this man is unreal.

28 points at halftime.


LAKERS 48 - suns 39
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 22, 2007, 01:18:03 PM
^^^^ he's the best offensive player of all time but people still hatin  :-X.. anyways this lead is deserved.. I'm pleased with the D (even if Suns are missin some open shots) but there are way too easy missed shots near the basket (Kwame many times , Luke..) and Lamar has to post up (when he did , he succeeded..) and not settin up for jumpers.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 22, 2007, 01:26:06 PM
Yeah i hope Luke step up in the 2nd half. He's the most disappointing guy of the game til now for the Lakers.
The Suns looks not menthally ready for the game.
We HAVE TO GET THIS win.

It's a do or die situation, we can't loose games like this one where we are in control.

Good 2nd half, brother.

GO LAKERSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 22, 2007, 01:37:03 PM
^^^^ yeah ... good timeout by Phil, we have to be focused on the boards again
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 22, 2007, 02:05:49 PM
William Parker is horrible.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 22, 2007, 02:12:58 PM
^^^^ Evans hasn't to be on the court too..  :-X
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 22, 2007, 02:17:30 PM
The Lakers can't hit a 3 to save their life. :P
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 22, 2007, 02:23:25 PM
Kobe needs to pass the fuckin' ball!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 22, 2007, 02:24:37 PM
KOBE IS GOD HUMAN

He fucked it up in the 4th quarter. Too many shots, too many MISSED shots.

Fuck it, we wasted the first chance.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 22, 2007, 02:25:29 PM
Kobe needs to pass the fuckin' ball!

Yeah i'm very disappointed.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 22, 2007, 02:27:13 PM
Kobe needs to pass the fuckin' ball!
Or at the very least try to take an OPEN shit.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 22, 2007, 02:28:38 PM
Damn .. you have to try to keep your cool when you're a fan of this team., I'm might start smoking weed or sth but how the fuck you can give away a playoffs game like this  :grumpy: :grumpy: :grumpy: :puke: and Kobe DID fuck up at the end
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 02:29:25 PM
It's alright....That's okay....


I'm not worried. Lakers showed they can easily hang and D'Antonio is the type of coach that makes no adjustments...Lakers WILL win the next game, and all we really need is a split. Keep your head up, Laker fans. We CAN handle these punks. Just wait and see Tuesday.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 22, 2007, 02:30:15 PM
Kobe needs to pass the fuckin' ball!

Yeah i'm very disappointed.

Too many forced shots. It was clear that they weren't dropping for him, and he was being double teamed.

Farmar should have been in the game to start the 4th quarter, not Smush.

We gave this fuckin' game away, we were leading pretty much the whole game.

I'm so fuckin' pissed right now I could punch someone.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 22, 2007, 02:34:08 PM
Barbosa just picked up where he left off in Game 7 last year. I hate playing Phoenix.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 02:37:11 PM
Kobe needs to pass the fuckin' ball!

Yeah i'm very disappointed.

Too many forced shots. It was clear that they weren't dropping for him, and he was being double teamed.

Farmar should have been in the game to start the 4th quarter, not Smush.

We gave this fuckin' game away, we were leading pretty much the whole game.

I'm so fuckin' pissed right now I could punch someone.

^^I agree. Kobe couldn't turn it on in the 4th this time, but he only came in with 5 mins left and all the momentum was already on the Suns side. We shoulda' went for the kill in the 3rd and had Kobe rest until the 7 or 8 min mark in the 4th. I also thought Farmar did a good job, he shoulda stayed in the game when the Suns came creepin' back. Honestly though, I think this will truly wake the Lakers up. Now they KNOW they can beat the Suns. Kwame and Lamar are not physically the same players they were last year, but I believe our depth will show for that. Don't trip...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 02:38:16 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 22, 2007, 02:38:32 PM
It's alright....That's okay....


I'm not worried. Lakers showed they can easily hang and D'Antonio is the type of coach that makes no adjustments...Lakers WILL win the next game, and all we really need is a split. Keep your head up, Laker fans. We CAN handle these punks. Just wait and see Tuesday.
Well of course nothing is done.. but I'm very dissapointed the way we basically gave this game... coz that was happened, we make things WAY too easy for the Suns to come back
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 22, 2007, 02:43:23 PM
Kobe needs to pass the fuckin' ball!

Yeah i'm very disappointed.

Too many forced shots. It was clear that they weren't dropping for him, and he was being double teamed.

Farmar should have been in the game to start the 4th quarter, not Smush.

We gave this fuckin' game away, we were leading pretty much the whole game.

I'm so fuckin' pissed right now I could punch someone.

^^I agree. Kobe couldn't turn it on in the 4th this time, but he only came in with 5 mins left and all the momentum was already on the Suns side. We shoulda' went for the kill in the 3rd and had Kobe rest until the 7 or 8 min mark in the 4th. I also thought Farmar did a good job, he shoulda stayed in the game when the Suns came creepin' back. Honestly though, I think this will truly wake the Lakers up. Now they KNOW they can beat the Suns. Kwame and Lamar are not physically the same players they were last year, but I believe our depth will show for that. Don't trip...PeACe

Yeah, it's just so fuckin' frustrating when you have the game in your grasp and have a chance to go up 1-0 on the road no less. And we basically gave the game away. We've obviously proved we can hang with the Suns two years in a row, now it's just a matter of finishing them off. 
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 02:44:18 PM
It's alright....That's okay....


I'm not worried. Lakers showed they can easily hang and D'Antonio is the type of coach that makes no adjustments...Lakers WILL win the next game, and all we really need is a split. Keep your head up, Laker fans. We CAN handle these punks. Just wait and see Tuesday.
Well of course nothing is done.. but I'm very dissapointed the way we basically gave this game... coz that was happened, we make things WAY too easy for the Suns to come back


This game wasn't a complete loss though...A blow-out woulda been a complete loss, but I think this will actually wake some of our players up mentally. The next 2 days will be nothing but thoughts of "hey, we can do this"...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Halu Sination on April 22, 2007, 02:44:59 PM
Kobe needs to pass the fuckin' ball!

Yeah i'm very disappointed.

Too many forced shots. It was clear that they weren't dropping for him, and he was being double teamed.

Farmar should have been in the game to start the 4th quarter, not Smush.

We gave this fuckin' game away, we were leading pretty much the whole game.

I'm so fuckin' pissed right now I could punch someone.

exaclty, smush comes into the game and triggers a run for the phoenix suns (which resulted in them getting the lead), and they still hesitated to sub someone else in. they also set up about 3 plays for mo evans and he couldnt hit the open shots, very disappointing. and of course the biggest crusher... kobe turning ice cold while simultaneously losing trust in his teammates. farmar was wide-open under the basket and kobe still took the contested jumper. i think phil jackson needs to have a long talk with some of the teammates.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 22, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 03:23:55 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 22, 2007, 04:10:23 PM
all i know is that the Lakers have to take Game 2 or else this series will be over.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: TuSlic on April 22, 2007, 04:37:29 PM
farmar was lookin real good

kobe lost us the game though at the end with the ball hoggin
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 22, 2007, 04:59:47 PM
farmar was lookin real good

kobe lost us the game though at the end with the ball hoggin
:sign_werd: Farmar did an excellent job. Passing, scoring, even defending Nash. Gotta give props to Kwame for playing through injuries and Odom for notching yet another double double (16 rebounds). In the end Kobe is responsible for this loss. Some of the shots he chose were plain retarded. Why don't they try positioning Kobe with the ball some place else other then the top of the key? A side from that there was some good team play and it's something to build upon.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 22, 2007, 05:45:55 PM
we going get the next games and play good D that all we need to do.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 05:52:45 PM
farmar was lookin real good

kobe lost us the game though at the end with the ball hoggin
:sign_werd: Farmar did an excellent job. Passing, scoring, even defending Nash. Gotta give props to Kwame for playing through injuries and Odom for notching yet another double double (16 rebounds). In the end Kobe is responsible for this loss. Some of the shots he chose were plain retarded. Why don't they try positioning Kobe with the ball some place else other then the top of the key? A side from that there was some good team play and it's something to build upon.


Most of those shots, if Kobe makes them, are great shots...And he usually does. But he was simply cold after sitting out most the 4th...I don't really blame him, Odom missed a few oppurtunities, as did Evans, Kwame, Turiaf, etc...Everyone as a whole just went cold in that 4th quarter...It was purely a mental loss...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 22, 2007, 06:02:32 PM
farmar was lookin real good

kobe lost us the game though at the end with the ball hoggin
:sign_werd: Farmar did an excellent job. Passing, scoring, even defending Nash. Gotta give props to Kwame for playing through injuries and Odom for notching yet another double double (16 rebounds). In the end Kobe is responsible for this loss. Some of the shots he chose were plain retarded. Why don't they try positioning Kobe with the ball some place else other then the top of the key? A side from that there was some good team play and it's something to build upon.


Most of those shots, if Kobe makes them, are great shots...And he usually does. But he was simply cold after sitting out most the 4th...I don't really blame him, Odom missed a few oppurtunities, as did Evans, Kwame, Turiaf, etc...Everyone as a whole just went cold in that 4th quarter...It was purely a mental loss...PeACe
No. Those crazy shots Kobe makes deify logic. His shot selection is poor and he STILL makes some of those crazy ones. That's one of the ways you can tell he's a special player. Regardless if he makes them or not, they are still poor shot selection.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 22, 2007, 06:04:56 PM
we going get the next games and play good D that all we need to do.
They did play good D. They held THE SUNS to 39 points in the first half. That's fuckin' amazing.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 06:12:01 PM
farmar was lookin real good

kobe lost us the game though at the end with the ball hoggin
:sign_werd: Farmar did an excellent job. Passing, scoring, even defending Nash. Gotta give props to Kwame for playing through injuries and Odom for notching yet another double double (16 rebounds). In the end Kobe is responsible for this loss. Some of the shots he chose were plain retarded. Why don't they try positioning Kobe with the ball some place else other then the top of the key? A side from that there was some good team play and it's something to build upon.


Most of those shots, if Kobe makes them, are great shots...And he usually does. But he was simply cold after sitting out most the 4th...I don't really blame him, Odom missed a few oppurtunities, as did Evans, Kwame, Turiaf, etc...Everyone as a whole just went cold in that 4th quarter...It was purely a mental loss...PeACe
No. Those crazy shots Kobe makes deify logic. His shot selection is poor and he STILL makes some of those crazy ones. That's one of the ways you can tell he's a special player. Regardless if he makes them or not, they are still poor shot selection.


He didn't even take that many shots in the 4th...Some of the ones he took might have been bad, but our offense was stagnant. I know there was one play he coulda' fed Farmar, but he ended up making that one anyways...Basically, Kobe is not to blame for our loss tonight. We need to come out as a group, our defense is what mostly fell apart. The point where the momentum altered was that BS offensive foul call on Kobe at the end of the 3rd, which led to the Barbosa 3. Huge turning point...But I truly believe this loss is good for us on a mental standpoint. D'Antonio wont make adjustments, and Phil is the master when it comes to these situations. Game 1 is typically a feeler game for the great coaches. To see where everything stands and how they're gunna execute everything. Tuesday, our execution will be even better than it was in todays first half. If Phil is gunna do what I think he is, then we're gunna win AT LEAST 2 of the next 3 games...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 22, 2007, 06:30:35 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

LOL, I believe it's the other way around. Phoenix simply has too many weapons. LA cannot go to Kobe every single time down the stretch, especially not against Marion, Bell, etc. He missed what, 11 of his last 12 shots. The Lakers won't be able to squeeze 4 wins out playing that way imo.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 06:34:55 PM
Despite the meltdown, I'm surprised no one else is commenting on the refs, who definitely had a fair share in what happened. Some terrible calls on Jordan down the stretch, Raja Bell using both hands on Kobe the whole game, those "offensive fouls" called on Kobe and Jordan...Not saying Lakers played great at the end, but Suns had 23 free throws to our 11, and they're a JUMPSHOOTING team. :-\
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 06:35:44 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

LOL, I believe it's the other way around. Phoenix simply has too many weapons. LA cannot go to Kobe every single time down the stretch, especially not against Marion, Bell, etc. He missed what, 11 of his last 12 shots. The Lakers won't be able to squeeze 4 wins out playing that way imo.


How often does Kobe have a meltdown in the 4th? Playoff Lakers > Playoff Suns.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 22, 2007, 06:36:19 PM
we going get the next games and play good D that all we need to do.
They did play good D. They held THE SUNS to 39 points in the first half. That's fuckin' amazing.
and the the next games as well...i did it watch the games so i could not what was going on but the first 1qtr i watch it a little bit they was doing pretty good.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 22, 2007, 06:40:51 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

LOL, I believe it's the other way around. Phoenix simply has too many weapons. LA cannot go to Kobe every single time down the stretch, especially not against Marion, Bell, etc. He missed what, 11 of his last 12 shots. The Lakers won't be able to squeeze 4 wins out playing that way imo.


How often does Kobe have a meltdown in the 4th? Playoff Lakers > Playoff Suns.

I know this is gonna hurt you kid, but 1 player does not equal a good team. While Kobe's offense is AMAZING at times, he cannot carry this Lakers team past Phoenix and you know it. Kwame is not a good player, neither is Smush. Smush can't guard Nash or Barbosa and Kwame can't guard Amare. The Lakers bench played well, but Phoenix's subs will outplay them every time.  I'm not a hater, just a real fan who sees that LA doesn't match up well with Phoenix. Lakers would have been better off playing Utah, a team that cannot guard SG's. Phoenix will be advancing, and again I'm saying it as a non-partial fan.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 06:59:27 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

LOL, I believe it's the other way around. Phoenix simply has too many weapons. LA cannot go to Kobe every single time down the stretch, especially not against Marion, Bell, etc. He missed what, 11 of his last 12 shots. The Lakers won't be able to squeeze 4 wins out playing that way imo.


How often does Kobe have a meltdown in the 4th? Playoff Lakers > Playoff Suns.

I know this is gonna hurt you kid, but 1 player does not equal a good team. While Kobe's offense is AMAZING at times, he cannot carry this Lakers team past Phoenix and you know it. Kwame is not a good player, neither is Smush. Smush can't guard Nash or Barbosa and Kwame can't guard Amare. The Lakers bench played well, but Phoenix's subs will outplay them every time.  I'm not a hater, just a real fan who sees that LA doesn't match up well with Phoenix. Lakers would have been better off playing Utah, a team that cannot guard SG's. Phoenix will be advancing, and again I'm saying it as a non-partial fan.


I take it you didn't watch the game (what a surprise).  Wait and see. Kobe is not the only weapon the Lakers have...Kwame owned the inside last year, he's just battered this season, but now we have Turiaf and Bynum too. Smush is not a major factor, since he's not getting major minutes anymore. But I admit, he's not been playing great when it comes to the playoffs. Do you see me talking about Marcus Banks though? Phoenix doesn't match up well with a team who knows how to slow it down. That's why they were shook most the game, until the refs helped sway the momentum. Lakers showed they have the simple answer to beating Phoenix, just like they did most of last years series. Nothing close to a blowout, Lakers are advancing this time around... PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 22, 2007, 08:10:12 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 22, 2007, 09:02:05 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.

Exactly what Im tryna to say. Nothing against the Lakers really, I just don't see them being able to keep up with Phoenix. The Suns can turn it on at any time in a given game, a there's not really anyone who can beat that.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 10:51:25 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: The Watcher on April 22, 2007, 11:50:50 PM
with the right execution sure, but Kobe was throwing up bricks in this game

Lakers need to pull it together if they're gonna beat the Suns
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 22, 2007, 11:56:43 PM
with the right execution sure, but Kobe was throwing up bricks in this game

Lakers need to pull it together if they're gonna beat the Suns


Kobe throwing up bricks managed to shoot 15-33 (4-8 3FG)...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 23, 2007, 12:40:53 AM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 09:50:40 AM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 11:04:46 AM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 11:09:56 AM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 23, 2007, 11:13:17 AM
I will personally be shocked if this series goes past 5.  Kobe will win one game for the Lakers but that's it.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 11:14:36 AM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 11:18:59 AM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 11:25:44 AM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe

Good logic is the following kid: Farmar is a rookie, he had a foul called on him, got his panties in a bunch and made mistakes. He argued the calls, which is a no-no, not unprofessionalism on the ref's part. They do there job, this ain't street ball kid. They Farmar got overly aggresive with that negative attitude and got fouls called on him. If Bell or whoever did this, you wouldn't say shit. How can you deny that Phoenix was waiting to make a run? THEY DID! And they won, that's how they win games, that's how they play. They kept the game at a comfortable closeness, and took over when it was time to do so. What's sad about LA, is that Phoenix shot under 40% in the 1st half, and was still able to come back and win easily. Those ARE excuses that you are making.  Phoenix is a better ball club, simple as that, no need for your young ass to make excuses. I told you, if LA played Utah in round 1 they would be better off. Grow up, little guy.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 12:18:33 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe

Good logic is the following kid: Farmar is a rookie, he had a foul called on him, got his panties in a bunch and made mistakes. He argued the calls, which is a no-no, not unprofessionalism on the ref's part. They do there job, this ain't street ball kid. They Farmar got overly aggresive with that negative attitude and got fouls called on him. If Bell or whoever did this, you wouldn't say shit. How can you deny that Phoenix was waiting to make a run? THEY DID! And they won, that's how they win games, that's how they play. They kept the game at a comfortable closeness, and took over when it was time to do so. What's sad about LA, is that Phoenix shot under 40% in the 1st half, and was still able to come back and win easily. Those ARE excuses that you are making.  Phoenix is a better ball club, simple as that, no need for your young ass to make excuses. I told you, if LA played Utah in round 1 they would be better off. Grow up, little guy.


If a player complains, that doesn't mean bad calls are supposed to go against the team, jackass. You're allowed to argue calls in the NBA, especially terrible ones like the refs made against Jordan. Your logic is dumb, but what can you expect from a douche named "Reefer Alston"? Seriously though, what the fuck do you mean "how can you deny that Phoenix was 'waiting' to make a run?"... Are you fucking kidding me? Smart guy, no NBA team "waits". Phoenix was attempting to make a run the whole game and couldn't. Lucky for them, their run finally came in the closing period. They don't "play like that". Phoenix never scores that low to begin a game. The game wasn't at a "comfortable closeness" either, Lakers were up 12 in the 3rd. Trust me, nothing is sad about the Lakers holding the Phoenix to shooting under 40% in the first half. They did that with superb defense. Unfortunately, we couldn't sustain that defense in the second half...And don't call me little guy, it's obvious you're doing it to feel bigger, since you can't achieve that through debating. I'm 20 years old, 6'5" 185 lbs. Nothing's "little" about me... You, however, are a mental midget when it comes to debating basketball... :-\
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 12:51:51 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe

Good logic is the following kid: Farmar is a rookie, he had a foul called on him, got his panties in a bunch and made mistakes. He argued the calls, which is a no-no, not unprofessionalism on the ref's part. They do there job, this ain't street ball kid. They Farmar got overly aggresive with that negative attitude and got fouls called on him. If Bell or whoever did this, you wouldn't say shit. How can you deny that Phoenix was waiting to make a run? THEY DID! And they won, that's how they win games, that's how they play. They kept the game at a comfortable closeness, and took over when it was time to do so. What's sad about LA, is that Phoenix shot under 40% in the 1st half, and was still able to come back and win easily. Those ARE excuses that you are making.  Phoenix is a better ball club, simple as that, no need for your young ass to make excuses. I told you, if LA played Utah in round 1 they would be better off. Grow up, little guy.


If a player complains, that doesn't mean bad calls are supposed to go against the team, jackass. You're allowed to argue calls in the NBA, especially terrible ones like the refs made against Jordan. Your logic is dumb, but what can you expect from a douche named "Reefer Alston"? Seriously though, what the fuck do you mean "how can you deny that Phoenix was 'waiting' to make a run?"... Are you fucking kidding me? Smart guy, no NBA team "waits". Phoenix was attempting to make a run the whole game and couldn't. Lucky for them, their run finally came in the closing period. They don't "play like that". Phoenix never scores that low to begin a game. The game wasn't at a "comfortable closeness" either, Lakers were up 12 in the 3rd. Trust me, nothing is sad about the Lakers holding the Phoenix to shooting under 40% in the first half. They did that with superb defense. Unfortunately, we couldn't sustain that defense in the second half...And don't call me little guy, it's obvious you're doing it to feel bigger, since you can't achieve that through debating. I'm 20 years old, 6'5" 185 lbs. Nothing's "little" about me... You, however, are a mental midget when it comes to debating basketball... :-\

A player complaining does have an effect on bad calls against HIM. The rest of the calls were what they should have been. Bottom line, little guy, the Lakers were not going to win that game, even if the refs had given them favorbale calls, 1 on 5 basketball is not going to get the job done. Phoenix was basically chillin the 1st 3 quaters and turned in on when it was time. You can;t argue that because that's what happened. They kept it comfortable, then took over. It was comfortable because Phoenix can come back from double didgits leads at any time, if you wrent a dickrider, you could admit this. Lakers looked like an AAU team trying to guard Barbosa, pure comedy.

Phoenix was just not making shots in the 1st half. They got what they wanted, just didn't fall. the Lakers couldn't keep up in the 2nd half because they not as good of a team as Phoenix. If the :Lakers have to play that damn hard to lose by 10 points, the rest of the series could be blowouts. I call you a little boy because you act like a child, and really none of the shit your saying makes any sense. You post like a 14 year old, kid. And again, why do you feel the need to curse and attack my personal character just because I'm presenting a good debate against your team? Why baby Elior?

You giving me your height and weight lol! I'm not scared, and don't think of you any diffent than before you told me that. Now I just see a tall, gangly white kid who sits on his computer all day and hates on other people. Thanks for the funny visual, kiddo.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: d-nice on April 23, 2007, 12:55:32 PM
Watching the game it looked like the Lakers got away from running the offense in the 4th. Other players did have good looks for them but they did not hit the shots. Those misses in turn create fast break opportunities for Phoenix. You can't beat Phoenix shooting under 45% in a quarter like that. The Lakers have the gameplan to beat Phoenix, but they have to make shots.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 01:04:10 PM
Watching the game it looked like the Lakers got away from running the offense in the 4th. Other players did have good looks for them but they did not hit the shots. Those misses in turn create fast break opportunities for Phoenix. You can't beat Phoenix shooting under 45% in a quarter like that. The Lakers have the gameplan to beat Phoenix, but they have to make shots.


True, but who besides Kobe can make those. Phoenix plays at such a fast pace that LA, and any other team for that matter, are going to have trouble getting into a set offense or defense. To beat Phoenix, you have to MAKE them play half court basketball, and it's not as easy as it sounds.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: d-nice on April 23, 2007, 01:12:35 PM
Watching the game it looked like the Lakers got away from running the offense in the 4th. Other players did have good looks for them but they did not hit the shots. Those misses in turn create fast break opportunities for Phoenix. You can't beat Phoenix shooting under 45% in a quarter like that. The Lakers have the gameplan to beat Phoenix, but they have to make shots.


True, but who besides Kobe can make those. Phoenix plays at such a fast pace that LA, and any other team for that matter, are going to have trouble getting into a set offense or defense. To beat Phoenix, you have to MAKE them play half court basketball, and it's not as easy as it sounds.

That is so true and they almost dared someone else to make a shot in the 4th. Farmar, Evans, they all had good looks at the basket but it did not fall. And misses create more offensive possessions for Phoenix.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 01:42:42 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe

Good logic is the following kid: Farmar is a rookie, he had a foul called on him, got his panties in a bunch and made mistakes. He argued the calls, which is a no-no, not unprofessionalism on the ref's part. They do there job, this ain't street ball kid. They Farmar got overly aggresive with that negative attitude and got fouls called on him. If Bell or whoever did this, you wouldn't say shit. How can you deny that Phoenix was waiting to make a run? THEY DID! And they won, that's how they win games, that's how they play. They kept the game at a comfortable closeness, and took over when it was time to do so. What's sad about LA, is that Phoenix shot under 40% in the 1st half, and was still able to come back and win easily. Those ARE excuses that you are making.  Phoenix is a better ball club, simple as that, no need for your young ass to make excuses. I told you, if LA played Utah in round 1 they would be better off. Grow up, little guy.


If a player complains, that doesn't mean bad calls are supposed to go against the team, jackass. You're allowed to argue calls in the NBA, especially terrible ones like the refs made against Jordan. Your logic is dumb, but what can you expect from a douche named "Reefer Alston"? Seriously though, what the fuck do you mean "how can you deny that Phoenix was 'waiting' to make a run?"... Are you fucking kidding me? Smart guy, no NBA team "waits". Phoenix was attempting to make a run the whole game and couldn't. Lucky for them, their run finally came in the closing period. They don't "play like that". Phoenix never scores that low to begin a game. The game wasn't at a "comfortable closeness" either, Lakers were up 12 in the 3rd. Trust me, nothing is sad about the Lakers holding the Phoenix to shooting under 40% in the first half. They did that with superb defense. Unfortunately, we couldn't sustain that defense in the second half...And don't call me little guy, it's obvious you're doing it to feel bigger, since you can't achieve that through debating. I'm 20 years old, 6'5" 185 lbs. Nothing's "little" about me... You, however, are a mental midget when it comes to debating basketball... :-\

A player complaining does have an effect on bad calls against HIM. The rest of the calls were what they should have been. Bottom line, little guy, the Lakers were not going to win that game, even if the refs had given them favorbale calls, 1 on 5 basketball is not going to get the job done. Phoenix was basically chillin the 1st 3 quaters and turned in on when it was time. You can;t argue that because that's what happened. They kept it comfortable, then took over. It was comfortable because Phoenix can come back from double didgits leads at any time, if you wrent a dickrider, you could admit this. Lakers looked like an AAU team trying to guard Barbosa, pure comedy.

Phoenix was just not making shots in the 1st half. They got what they wanted, just didn't fall. the Lakers couldn't keep up in the 2nd half because they not as good of a team as Phoenix. If the :Lakers have to play that damn hard to lose by 10 points, the rest of the series could be blowouts. I call you a little boy because you act like a child, and really none of the shit your saying makes any sense. You post like a 14 year old, kid. And again, why do you feel the need to curse and attack my personal character just because I'm presenting a good debate against your team? Why baby Elior?

You giving me your height and weight lol! I'm not scared, and don't think of you any diffent than before you told me that. Now I just see a tall, gangly white kid who sits on his computer all day and hates on other people. Thanks for the funny visual, kiddo.


Only a moronic idiot who doesn't watch sports (let alone basketball) would think a team purposely loses 3 quarters of a playoff game. You're seriously pathetic with your arguments...If you think the refs didn't sway the momentum, you need help. If the Lakers played defense like they did in the 1st half, they woulda won. That's undeniable. And remember, it was you who started with the personal insults, due to your lack of basketball knowldge...And I'm not white, shithead. :-*
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 01:46:33 PM
And LOL@the lame "only Kobe is good for LA" argument. Odom was considered by many the MVP of last years series...try blazin that one, son.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 01:53:33 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe

Good logic is the following kid: Farmar is a rookie, he had a foul called on him, got his panties in a bunch and made mistakes. He argued the calls, which is a no-no, not unprofessionalism on the ref's part. They do there job, this ain't street ball kid. They Farmar got overly aggresive with that negative attitude and got fouls called on him. If Bell or whoever did this, you wouldn't say shit. How can you deny that Phoenix was waiting to make a run? THEY DID! And they won, that's how they win games, that's how they play. They kept the game at a comfortable closeness, and took over when it was time to do so. What's sad about LA, is that Phoenix shot under 40% in the 1st half, and was still able to come back and win easily. Those ARE excuses that you are making.  Phoenix is a better ball club, simple as that, no need for your young ass to make excuses. I told you, if LA played Utah in round 1 they would be better off. Grow up, little guy.


If a player complains, that doesn't mean bad calls are supposed to go against the team, jackass. You're allowed to argue calls in the NBA, especially terrible ones like the refs made against Jordan. Your logic is dumb, but what can you expect from a douche named "Reefer Alston"? Seriously though, what the fuck do you mean "how can you deny that Phoenix was 'waiting' to make a run?"... Are you fucking kidding me? Smart guy, no NBA team "waits". Phoenix was attempting to make a run the whole game and couldn't. Lucky for them, their run finally came in the closing period. They don't "play like that". Phoenix never scores that low to begin a game. The game wasn't at a "comfortable closeness" either, Lakers were up 12 in the 3rd. Trust me, nothing is sad about the Lakers holding the Phoenix to shooting under 40% in the first half. They did that with superb defense. Unfortunately, we couldn't sustain that defense in the second half...And don't call me little guy, it's obvious you're doing it to feel bigger, since you can't achieve that through debating. I'm 20 years old, 6'5" 185 lbs. Nothing's "little" about me... You, however, are a mental midget when it comes to debating basketball... :-\

A player complaining does have an effect on bad calls against HIM. The rest of the calls were what they should have been. Bottom line, little guy, the Lakers were not going to win that game, even if the refs had given them favorbale calls, 1 on 5 basketball is not going to get the job done. Phoenix was basically chillin the 1st 3 quaters and turned in on when it was time. You can;t argue that because that's what happened. They kept it comfortable, then took over. It was comfortable because Phoenix can come back from double didgits leads at any time, if you wrent a dickrider, you could admit this. Lakers looked like an AAU team trying to guard Barbosa, pure comedy.

Phoenix was just not making shots in the 1st half. They got what they wanted, just didn't fall. the Lakers couldn't keep up in the 2nd half because they not as good of a team as Phoenix. If the :Lakers have to play that damn hard to lose by 10 points, the rest of the series could be blowouts. I call you a little boy because you act like a child, and really none of the shit your saying makes any sense. You post like a 14 year old, kid. And again, why do you feel the need to curse and attack my personal character just because I'm presenting a good debate against your team? Why baby Elior?

You giving me your height and weight lol! I'm not scared, and don't think of you any diffent than before you told me that. Now I just see a tall, gangly white kid who sits on his computer all day and hates on other people. Thanks for the funny visual, kiddo.


Only a moronic idiot who doesn't watch sports (let alone basketball) would think a team purposely loses 3 quarters of a playoff game. You're seriously pathetic with your arguments...If you think the refs didn't sway the momentum, you need help. If the Lakers played defense like they did in the 1st half, they woulda won. That's undeniable. And remember, it was you who started with the personal insults, due to your lack of basketball knowldge...And I'm not white, shithead. :-*

Look at this little guy with all the insults...moron?, idiot?, pathetic?, need help?, shithead? Your a Jew, your white, correct? Kid you are hurting and running out of steam. Why are you the only one disagreeing with me? I never said Phoenix was purposley losing, they were simply taking it easy as to not waste energy. Little boy, I've been watching the NBA since 93, I do know my shit, and your the only one here who would disagree.

LOL at u still reaching. If the Lakers could play "defense" like that the would have won. Maybe, but they are not even capable of that.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: HD on April 23, 2007, 02:23:56 PM
phx will win it easily
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 02:25:44 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe

Good logic is the following kid: Farmar is a rookie, he had a foul called on him, got his panties in a bunch and made mistakes. He argued the calls, which is a no-no, not unprofessionalism on the ref's part. They do there job, this ain't street ball kid. They Farmar got overly aggresive with that negative attitude and got fouls called on him. If Bell or whoever did this, you wouldn't say shit. How can you deny that Phoenix was waiting to make a run? THEY DID! And they won, that's how they win games, that's how they play. They kept the game at a comfortable closeness, and took over when it was time to do so. What's sad about LA, is that Phoenix shot under 40% in the 1st half, and was still able to come back and win easily. Those ARE excuses that you are making.  Phoenix is a better ball club, simple as that, no need for your young ass to make excuses. I told you, if LA played Utah in round 1 they would be better off. Grow up, little guy.


If a player complains, that doesn't mean bad calls are supposed to go against the team, jackass. You're allowed to argue calls in the NBA, especially terrible ones like the refs made against Jordan. Your logic is dumb, but what can you expect from a douche named "Reefer Alston"? Seriously though, what the fuck do you mean "how can you deny that Phoenix was 'waiting' to make a run?"... Are you fucking kidding me? Smart guy, no NBA team "waits". Phoenix was attempting to make a run the whole game and couldn't. Lucky for them, their run finally came in the closing period. They don't "play like that". Phoenix never scores that low to begin a game. The game wasn't at a "comfortable closeness" either, Lakers were up 12 in the 3rd. Trust me, nothing is sad about the Lakers holding the Phoenix to shooting under 40% in the first half. They did that with superb defense. Unfortunately, we couldn't sustain that defense in the second half...And don't call me little guy, it's obvious you're doing it to feel bigger, since you can't achieve that through debating. I'm 20 years old, 6'5" 185 lbs. Nothing's "little" about me... You, however, are a mental midget when it comes to debating basketball... :-\

A player complaining does have an effect on bad calls against HIM. The rest of the calls were what they should have been. Bottom line, little guy, the Lakers were not going to win that game, even if the refs had given them favorbale calls, 1 on 5 basketball is not going to get the job done. Phoenix was basically chillin the 1st 3 quaters and turned in on when it was time. You can;t argue that because that's what happened. They kept it comfortable, then took over. It was comfortable because Phoenix can come back from double didgits leads at any time, if you wrent a dickrider, you could admit this. Lakers looked like an AAU team trying to guard Barbosa, pure comedy.

Phoenix was just not making shots in the 1st half. They got what they wanted, just didn't fall. the Lakers couldn't keep up in the 2nd half because they not as good of a team as Phoenix. If the :Lakers have to play that damn hard to lose by 10 points, the rest of the series could be blowouts. I call you a little boy because you act like a child, and really none of the shit your saying makes any sense. You post like a 14 year old, kid. And again, why do you feel the need to curse and attack my personal character just because I'm presenting a good debate against your team? Why baby Elior?

You giving me your height and weight lol! I'm not scared, and don't think of you any diffent than before you told me that. Now I just see a tall, gangly white kid who sits on his computer all day and hates on other people. Thanks for the funny visual, kiddo.


Only a moronic idiot who doesn't watch sports (let alone basketball) would think a team purposely loses 3 quarters of a playoff game. You're seriously pathetic with your arguments...If you think the refs didn't sway the momentum, you need help. If the Lakers played defense like they did in the 1st half, they woulda won. That's undeniable. And remember, it was you who started with the personal insults, due to your lack of basketball knowldge...And I'm not white, shithead. :-*

Look at this little guy with all the insults...moron?, idiot?, pathetic?, need help?, shithead? Your a Jew, your white, correct? Kid you are hurting and running out of steam. Why are you the only one disagreeing with me? I never said Phoenix was purposley losing, they were simply taking it easy as to not waste energy. Little boy, I've been watching the NBA since 93, I do know my shit, and your the only one here who would disagree.

LOL at u still reaching. If the Lakers could play "defense" like that the would have won. Maybe, but they are not even capable of that.


LOL@thinking being Jewish has any connection with being white. You truly are a moron, you know that? And that's not only in regards to basketball, as you've proven. Lakers are not capable of playing defense the way they played defense? How does that even make ANY sense whatsoever, moron? Remember who started throwing personal insults. It was you...Now you've just given me the freedom to shit all over you without feeling guilty about it.


You say you've been watching since 93, well I've been watching since 87... Not that it indicates I'm above you, only your constant use of "little boy" would indicate that. It proves your inferior complex. You know I'm above you. You know you have no credibility on this site. So shut the fuck up and start making valid points instead of talking shit...All I've been saying is that the Lakers could win this series, which you still can't disprove. All you can do is be your usual punkass self, so be my guest. :)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 03:33:50 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe

Good logic is the following kid: Farmar is a rookie, he had a foul called on him, got his panties in a bunch and made mistakes. He argued the calls, which is a no-no, not unprofessionalism on the ref's part. They do there job, this ain't street ball kid. They Farmar got overly aggresive with that negative attitude and got fouls called on him. If Bell or whoever did this, you wouldn't say shit. How can you deny that Phoenix was waiting to make a run? THEY DID! And they won, that's how they win games, that's how they play. They kept the game at a comfortable closeness, and took over when it was time to do so. What's sad about LA, is that Phoenix shot under 40% in the 1st half, and was still able to come back and win easily. Those ARE excuses that you are making.  Phoenix is a better ball club, simple as that, no need for your young ass to make excuses. I told you, if LA played Utah in round 1 they would be better off. Grow up, little guy.


If a player complains, that doesn't mean bad calls are supposed to go against the team, jackass. You're allowed to argue calls in the NBA, especially terrible ones like the refs made against Jordan. Your logic is dumb, but what can you expect from a douche named "Reefer Alston"? Seriously though, what the fuck do you mean "how can you deny that Phoenix was 'waiting' to make a run?"... Are you fucking kidding me? Smart guy, no NBA team "waits". Phoenix was attempting to make a run the whole game and couldn't. Lucky for them, their run finally came in the closing period. They don't "play like that". Phoenix never scores that low to begin a game. The game wasn't at a "comfortable closeness" either, Lakers were up 12 in the 3rd. Trust me, nothing is sad about the Lakers holding the Phoenix to shooting under 40% in the first half. They did that with superb defense. Unfortunately, we couldn't sustain that defense in the second half...And don't call me little guy, it's obvious you're doing it to feel bigger, since you can't achieve that through debating. I'm 20 years old, 6'5" 185 lbs. Nothing's "little" about me... You, however, are a mental midget when it comes to debating basketball... :-\

A player complaining does have an effect on bad calls against HIM. The rest of the calls were what they should have been. Bottom line, little guy, the Lakers were not going to win that game, even if the refs had given them favorbale calls, 1 on 5 basketball is not going to get the job done. Phoenix was basically chillin the 1st 3 quaters and turned in on when it was time. You can;t argue that because that's what happened. They kept it comfortable, then took over. It was comfortable because Phoenix can come back from double didgits leads at any time, if you wrent a dickrider, you could admit this. Lakers looked like an AAU team trying to guard Barbosa, pure comedy.

Phoenix was just not making shots in the 1st half. They got what they wanted, just didn't fall. the Lakers couldn't keep up in the 2nd half because they not as good of a team as Phoenix. If the :Lakers have to play that damn hard to lose by 10 points, the rest of the series could be blowouts. I call you a little boy because you act like a child, and really none of the shit your saying makes any sense. You post like a 14 year old, kid. And again, why do you feel the need to curse and attack my personal character just because I'm presenting a good debate against your team? Why baby Elior?

You giving me your height and weight lol! I'm not scared, and don't think of you any diffent than before you told me that. Now I just see a tall, gangly white kid who sits on his computer all day and hates on other people. Thanks for the funny visual, kiddo.


Only a moronic idiot who doesn't watch sports (let alone basketball) would think a team purposely loses 3 quarters of a playoff game. You're seriously pathetic with your arguments...If you think the refs didn't sway the momentum, you need help. If the Lakers played defense like they did in the 1st half, they woulda won. That's undeniable. And remember, it was you who started with the personal insults, due to your lack of basketball knowldge...And I'm not white, shithead. :-*

Look at this little guy with all the insults...moron?, idiot?, pathetic?, need help?, shithead? Your a Jew, your white, correct? Kid you are hurting and running out of steam. Why are you the only one disagreeing with me? I never said Phoenix was purposley losing, they were simply taking it easy as to not waste energy. Little boy, I've been watching the NBA since 93, I do know my shit, and your the only one here who would disagree.

LOL at u still reaching. If the Lakers could play "defense" like that the would have won. Maybe, but they are not even capable of that.


LOL@thinking being Jewish has any connection with being white. You truly are a moron, you know that? And that's not only in regards to basketball, as you've proven. Lakers are not capable of playing defense the way they played defense? How does that even make ANY sense whatsoever, moron? Remember who started throwing personal insults. It was you...Now you've just given me the freedom to shit all over you without feeling guilty about it.


You say you've been watching since 93, well I've been watching since 87... Not that it indicates I'm above you, only your constant use of "little boy" would indicate that. It proves your inferior complex. You know I'm above you. You know you have no credibility on this site. So shut the fuck up and start making valid points instead of talking shit...All I've been saying is that the Lakers could win this series, which you still can't disprove. All you can do is be your usual punkass self, so be my guest. :)

1st of all, check my posts, I bring more to this site than you do imo, matter of fact your the only one wh has a problem. All you bring is negativity to the board, and you need to get your lufe together.

Your comprehesion sucks kiddo. Lakers are not capable of playing that way for an entire game, and you will see when Phoenix bounces them out. I'm sure youll blame the refs though lol.  Ur 20 years old, you haven't been watching since you were born, get the fuck outta here. Again, my credibilty lies in my posts. Since we been at it, I haven't seen anyone saying I'm wrong. While u got plenty that know ur full of crap. The Lakers can NOT win this series, which will be proven when they lose. Every point I have made is a valid one, while your defending your team.

Again, you stay throwing insults, and btw Jews are white. Why do u get so upset to the point of cursing at me? For someone who claims to blaze as much as you do, your an angry little guy.

Until you mature up, you will still be referred to as the "little guy".
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 23, 2007, 03:56:15 PM
I'm waiting for NIK to go to his classic, "GO READ SOME LAKERS BOOKS!" comeback.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 23, 2007, 04:03:12 PM
I'm waiting for NIK to go to his classic, "GO READ SOME LAKERS BOOKS!" comeback.


LOL, he acts like I have something against LA, when I'm just stating the obvious. I'm all done in this thread until game 2. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 23, 2007, 04:22:43 PM
Watching the game it looked like the Lakers got away from running the offense in the 4th. Other players did have good looks for them but they did not hit the shots. Those misses in turn create fast break opportunities for Phoenix. You can't beat Phoenix shooting under 45% in a quarter like that. The Lakers have the gameplan to beat Phoenix, but they have to make shots.

True, but who besides Kobe can make those. Phoenix plays at such a fast pace that LA, and any other team for that matter, are going to have trouble getting into a set offense or defense. To beat Phoenix, you have to MAKE them play half court basketball, and it's not as easy as it sounds.

That is so true and they almost dared someone else to make a shot in the 4th. Farmar, Evans, they all had good looks at the basket but it did not fall. And misses create more offensive possessions for Phoenix.

I'll probably say an obvious thing, but it's easier to score good balanced jumpers or from the inside area than try to score with difficult fadeways or unbalanced jumpers like the Lakers (expecially Kobe) did in the 4th quarter. That way you only put fuel in the Suns engine. We should have played more inside. Bynum and Turiaf should have had more minutage, imho. And we should have played with them more involved in offence, in the last quarter. All we did was give the ball to Kobe, who missed fadeways. I was expecting more, to be honest. But hey, NIK is right when he says we proved we can play 3 quarters better than them. We should just finish the job. I'm still positive, the Suns looks like the best team, but everything can still happen. See the Warriors who are 1-0 against the Mavs, or the Nuggets who are 1-0 against the Spurs. We can win Game-2 for sure. Let's go ahead step by step.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 04:32:37 PM
I'm waiting for NIK to go to his classic, "GO READ SOME LAKERS BOOKS!" comeback.

I only say that to "Laker fans".
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 23, 2007, 04:39:21 PM
I hate playing Phoenix.


Why? We easily have the best chance against them, as the first 3 quarters today proved. They're only good when we let them be...PeACe

Yeah too bad a game is 4 quarters.


What's your point? You're not disputing what I just said.

The point is, the score at the end of the 3rd quarter isn't what counts, the score at the end of the 4th quarter is what matters.


The point is, we can beat Phoenix EASILY with execution.

Lol @ beating Phoenix easily. No team can beat Phoenix, Dallas, or San Antonio easily.

back to the topic: Farmar was great, but he got screwed by the refs. I know ya'll saw that 4th "foul".


Any team who knows how to slow it down correctly can beat Phoenix easily. Did you see how dumbfounded they looked when we executed the right way? Out of the 4 fouls called on Jordan, only 1 was actually a foul... :-\

Didn't look dumbfounded to me, looked like they were waiting for the 4th to make a statement. You know why Farmar was getting bad calls, cause he's a baby and was bitching about every call like he's a vet or something. Dude was acting like a prick out there, this is the playoffs, time to step it up, and grow up/


Great logic. "Lets give him a bunch of consecutive bad calls since he's complaining about a bad call we made". LOL. Almost funnier than you claiming Phoenix was "waiting" for the 4th...You do realize they only scored 39 points in the 1st half, correct? Phoenix made a run (sparked by the refs) when their backs were already against the wall. To claim they were "waiting" is absurd.

It's obvious that the complainers/bitches/whiners get bad calls, yes that is good logic at work. When I said Phoenix was waiting for the 4th, I meant it. Of course they scored 39 in the 1st. They played like shit, and were still close. Phoenix is capable of making a run and beating you at anytime, regardless of what happened the 1st 3 quaters. You can't say I'm worng because they DID win, and convincingly at that. I know your a Lakers dick licker, but be a man for once, little boy. You can't blame the refs. They didn't make Phoenix's shots go in, and they didnt make the Lakers cave under the pressure in the 4th. Phoenix can beat this team, I don't understand why you have to make excuses.


Since when did unprofessionalism become "good logic"? You really are confused, huh? Phoenix wasn't close? Lakers were up by AT LEAST 9 or 10 for a good portion of the game. If you think this is because Phoenix was "waiting to make a run", then you don't even deserve to watch basketball. Nobody's making excuses. Lakers WILL win at least 2 of the next 3...PeACe

Good logic is the following kid: Farmar is a rookie, he had a foul called on him, got his panties in a bunch and made mistakes. He argued the calls, which is a no-no, not unprofessionalism on the ref's part. They do there job, this ain't street ball kid. They Farmar got overly aggresive with that negative attitude and got fouls called on him. If Bell or whoever did this, you wouldn't say shit. How can you deny that Phoenix was waiting to make a run? THEY DID! And they won, that's how they win games, that's how they play. They kept the game at a comfortable closeness, and took over when it was time to do so. What's sad about LA, is that Phoenix shot under 40% in the 1st half, and was still able to come back and win easily. Those ARE excuses that you are making.  Phoenix is a better ball club, simple as that, no need for your young ass to make excuses. I told you, if LA played Utah in round 1 they would be better off. Grow up, little guy.


If a player complains, that doesn't mean bad calls are supposed to go against the team, jackass. You're allowed to argue calls in the NBA, especially terrible ones like the refs made against Jordan. Your logic is dumb, but what can you expect from a douche named "Reefer Alston"? Seriously though, what the fuck do you mean "how can you deny that Phoenix was 'waiting' to make a run?"... Are you fucking kidding me? Smart guy, no NBA team "waits". Phoenix was attempting to make a run the whole game and couldn't. Lucky for them, their run finally came in the closing period. They don't "play like that". Phoenix never scores that low to begin a game. The game wasn't at a "comfortable closeness" either, Lakers were up 12 in the 3rd. Trust me, nothing is sad about the Lakers holding the Phoenix to shooting under 40% in the first half. They did that with superb defense. Unfortunately, we couldn't sustain that defense in the second half...And don't call me little guy, it's obvious you're doing it to feel bigger, since you can't achieve that through debating. I'm 20 years old, 6'5" 185 lbs. Nothing's "little" about me... You, however, are a mental midget when it comes to debating basketball... :-\

A player complaining does have an effect on bad calls against HIM. The rest of the calls were what they should have been. Bottom line, little guy, the Lakers were not going to win that game, even if the refs had given them favorbale calls, 1 on 5 basketball is not going to get the job done. Phoenix was basically chillin the 1st 3 quaters and turned in on when it was time. You can;t argue that because that's what happened. They kept it comfortable, then took over. It was comfortable because Phoenix can come back from double didgits leads at any time, if you wrent a dickrider, you could admit this. Lakers looked like an AAU team trying to guard Barbosa, pure comedy.

Phoenix was just not making shots in the 1st half. They got what they wanted, just didn't fall. the Lakers couldn't keep up in the 2nd half because they not as good of a team as Phoenix. If the :Lakers have to play that damn hard to lose by 10 points, the rest of the series could be blowouts. I call you a little boy because you act like a child, and really none of the shit your saying makes any sense. You post like a 14 year old, kid. And again, why do you feel the need to curse and attack my personal character just because I'm presenting a good debate against your team? Why baby Elior?

You giving me your height and weight lol! I'm not scared, and don't think of you any diffent than before you told me that. Now I just see a tall, gangly white kid who sits on his computer all day and hates on other people. Thanks for the funny visual, kiddo.


Only a moronic idiot who doesn't watch sports (let alone basketball) would think a team purposely loses 3 quarters of a playoff game. You're seriously pathetic with your arguments...If you think the refs didn't sway the momentum, you need help. If the Lakers played defense like they did in the 1st half, they woulda won. That's undeniable. And remember, it was you who started with the personal insults, due to your lack of basketball knowldge...And I'm not white, shithead. :-*

Look at this little guy with all the insults...moron?, idiot?, pathetic?, need help?, shithead? Your a Jew, your white, correct? Kid you are hurting and running out of steam. Why are you the only one disagreeing with me? I never said Phoenix was purposley losing, they were simply taking it easy as to not waste energy. Little boy, I've been watching the NBA since 93, I do know my shit, and your the only one here who would disagree.

LOL at u still reaching. If the Lakers could play "defense" like that the would have won. Maybe, but they are not even capable of that.


LOL@thinking being Jewish has any connection with being white. You truly are a moron, you know that? And that's not only in regards to basketball, as you've proven. Lakers are not capable of playing defense the way they played defense? How does that even make ANY sense whatsoever, moron? Remember who started throwing personal insults. It was you...Now you've just given me the freedom to shit all over you without feeling guilty about it.


You say you've been watching since 93, well I've been watching since 87... Not that it indicates I'm above you, only your constant use of "little boy" would indicate that. It proves your inferior complex. You know I'm above you. You know you have no credibility on this site. So shut the fuck up and start making valid points instead of talking shit...All I've been saying is that the Lakers could win this series, which you still can't disprove. All you can do is be your usual punkass self, so be my guest. :)

1st of all, check my posts, I bring more to this site than you do imo, matter of fact your the only one wh has a problem. All you bring is negativity to the board, and you need to get your lufe together.

Your comprehesion sucks kiddo. Lakers are not capable of playing that way for an entire game, and you will see when Phoenix bounces them out. I'm sure youll blame the refs though lol.  Ur 20 years old, you haven't been watching since you were born, get the fuck outta here. Again, my credibilty lies in my posts. Since we been at it, I haven't seen anyone saying I'm wrong. While u got plenty that know ur full of crap. The Lakers can NOT win this series, which will be proven when they lose. Every point I have made is a valid one, while your defending your team.

Again, you stay throwing insults, and btw Jews are white. Why do u get so upset to the point of cursing at me? For someone who claims to blaze as much as you do, your an angry little guy.

Until you mature up, you will still be referred to as the "little guy".


LMFAO. This guy said "Jews are white"...I just hope you realize that's as dumb as saying "Christians are black".

Almost funnier than you thinking you've added more to this site than me, guy. Negativity entered this thread when you came in here and started insulting my opinions. I've been at Showtime Laker games before I was born. Yes, I've been watching Laker games since '87, my pops would put every game on in the house. I was born a Laker fan. So quit being a hating ass fuck who attacks peoples opinions, especially Laker fans with pride...And don't tell me to grow up when you're older than me and obviously act way more childish, coming in here to talk shit and what not...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bch on April 24, 2007, 06:11:48 AM
LAKERS CAN DO IT

KEEP FARMAR IN THERE
THEY SHOULD JUST JUST DO THAT MATCH UP GAME...

WHEN NASH LEAVES THEN PUT IN SMUSH AND LET FARMAR GET A BREATHER
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 24, 2007, 08:32:46 AM
Game 2 Let's GO LAKERS... let's have a full game effort... 2 main adjustements regarding Game 1 have to be made...  play a team game offensive wise (run through the triangle) and limit Barbosa impact... c'mon he's a very good player, he's VERY fast but Am I the only one who has pointed out he's always go straight to the hoop, I mean it's not like he was changing directions , doing crossovers and moves like that.. the defender has to let much space between him and Barbosa so it would be more difficult for him to go to the hoop and have to pass or shoot the J
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: eastcoast timbs on April 24, 2007, 08:55:06 AM
LOL @ Kobe's only fg in the 4th coming in spectacular ball hoggin fashion: Farmer under the basket , NOBODY within 8 feet of him, frantically waiving his arms "Pass the roc nigga!!!", while Kobe ignores him and dribbles around 4 people for a fall away layup
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 24, 2007, 09:29:47 AM
LOL @ Kobe's only fg in the 4th coming in spectacular ball hoggin fashion: Farmer under the basket , NOBODY within 8 feet of him, frantically waiving his arms "Pass the roc nigga!!!", while Kobe ignores him and dribbles around 4 people for a fall away layup

Yeah i remember it. But i think Kobe didn't see Farmar.

But yeah, Kobe exaggerated.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2007, 09:55:21 AM
You should have put a deadline for voting just before the series began.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2007, 09:59:27 AM
I just heard on ESPN that Kobe was criticizing his team mates for the loss. He's the leader of the team, he took all those missed shots in the end of the game, the blame lies with Kobe. Period.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 10:39:47 AM
I just heard on ESPN that Kobe was criticizing his team mates for the loss. He's the leader of the team, he took all those missed shots in the end of the game, the blame lies with Kobe. Period.


LMAO@believing BSPN regarding Kobe/Lakers...


Anyways...Can't wait for tonight. Time to adjust and smoke these punks. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2007, 10:51:49 AM
I just heard on ESPN that Kobe was criticizing his team mates for the loss. He's the leader of the team, he took all those missed shots in the end of the game, the blame lies with Kobe. Period.


LMAO@believing BSPN regarding Kobe/Lakers...


Anyways...Can't wait for tonight. Time to adjust and smoke these punks. 8)
I didn't actually watch the report. They just said the story was coming up after a commerical break. But I missed it.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 10:53:56 AM
I just heard on ESPN that Kobe was criticizing his team mates for the loss. He's the leader of the team, he took all those missed shots in the end of the game, the blame lies with Kobe. Period.


LMAO@believing BSPN regarding Kobe/Lakers...


Anyways...Can't wait for tonight. Time to adjust and smoke these punks. 8)
I didn't actually watch the report. They just said the story was coming up after a commerical break. But I missed it.


Even worse...That's when they try to twist shit and make what they say as attention grabbing as possible. That's disappointing. As a Laker fan, you should have BEEN knowing not to buy into that BS by now, homie...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 24, 2007, 10:56:57 AM
i just hope the lakers can push this series to 6 and soften up the suns for the Warriors
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 24, 2007, 10:59:24 AM
lakers had a real chance of winning on sunday until kobe starting forcing up bad shots in the 4th quarter. he needs to learn how to pass out of the tripple team
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2007, 10:59:24 AM
i just hope the lakers can push this series to 6 and soften up the suns for the Warriors
I just hope the Warriors can push this series to 6 and soften up the Mavs for the Lakers. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 24, 2007, 11:01:50 AM
i just hope the lakers can push this series to 6 and soften up the suns for the Warriors
I just hope the Warriors can push this series to 6 and soften up the Mavs for the Lakers. 8)
lol nik is the originator of that comment.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2007, 11:04:24 AM
I just heard on ESPN that Kobe was criticizing his team mates for the loss. He's the leader of the team, he took all those missed shots in the end of the game, the blame lies with Kobe. Period.


LMAO@believing BSPN regarding Kobe/Lakers...


Anyways...Can't wait for tonight. Time to adjust and smoke these punks. 8)
I didn't actually watch the report. They just said the story was coming up after a commerical break. But I missed it.


Even worse...That's when they try to twist shit and make what they say as attention grabbing as possible. That's disappointing. As a Laker fan, you should have BEEN knowing not to buy into that BS by now, homie...
:-[ It was a mistake. I was just trying to get information on the NFL Draft. :boohoo:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2007, 11:05:28 AM
i just hope the lakers can push this series to 6 and soften up the suns for the Warriors
I just hope the Warriors can push this series to 6 and soften up the Mavs for the Lakers. 8)
lol nik is the originator of that comment.
I'm just mesing around. I hope both the Lakers and Warriors advance.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 11:05:37 AM
I just heard on ESPN that Kobe was criticizing his team mates for the loss. He's the leader of the team, he took all those missed shots in the end of the game, the blame lies with Kobe. Period.


LMAO@believing BSPN regarding Kobe/Lakers...


Anyways...Can't wait for tonight. Time to adjust and smoke these punks. 8)
I didn't actually watch the report. They just said the story was coming up after a commerical break. But I missed it.


Even worse...That's when they try to twist shit and make what they say as attention grabbing as possible. That's disappointing. As a Laker fan, you should have BEEN knowing not to buy into that BS by now, homie...
:-[ It was a mistake. I was just trying to get information on the NFL Draft. :boohoo:



:nawty:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 24, 2007, 11:06:12 AM
Nothing is Kobe's fault.

Ever.

Taking contested shots while double teamed.  Good play.

Not passing out to open teammates.  Smart play.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 24, 2007, 11:08:02 AM
if im the lakers and i magically somehow beat the suns i dont wanna see the Warriors in the 2nd rd
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 24, 2007, 11:09:00 AM
if im the lakers and i magically somehow beat the suns i dont wanna see the Warriors in the 2nd rd

They won't since they would play the Spurs or Nuggets.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 11:09:05 AM
Nothing is Kobe's fault.

Ever.

Taking contested shots while double teamed.  Good play.

Not passing out to open teammates.  Smart play.



No. EVERYTHING is Kobe's fault. If he stops shooting and passes it to his teammates, he's sabotaging the game and refusing to shoot when he's hot. Game 7 anyone? ::)


Kobe haters are amazing. :D
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 11:10:43 AM
if im the lakers and i magically somehow beat the suns i dont wanna see the Warriors in the 2nd rd


I rather see the Warrior in the conference finals than the Mavs or Rockets.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 24, 2007, 11:12:06 AM
Kobe might be able to steal maybe 1 game this series with his talent alone but in order to win the series those other guys need to step up. i also blame the lakers for not landing KG or Kidd. in this day and age u need two superstars to win a championship
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 24, 2007, 01:41:30 PM
Go Lakers
Go Warriors!!

CALI LOVE!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Low Key on April 24, 2007, 01:44:45 PM
i also blame the lakers for not landing KG

It's hard to acquire a player that isn't up for trade.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: d-nice on April 24, 2007, 01:45:23 PM
if im the lakers and i magically somehow beat the suns i dont wanna see the Warriors in the 2nd rd


I rather see the Warrior in the conference finals than the Mavs or Rockets.

co-sign. At this point of the playoffs you just trying to advance. But LA actually matches up well with Golden State. And it is a complete mismatch in the frontcourt.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on April 24, 2007, 01:46:06 PM
if im the lakers and i magically somehow beat the suns i dont wanna see the Warriors in the 2nd rd

LOL@this comment. You won the 1st game. Don't get too hyped over that.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 24, 2007, 02:00:17 PM
if im the lakers and i magically somehow beat the suns i dont wanna see the Warriors in the 2nd rd

LOL@this comment. You won the 1st game. Don't get too hyped over that.

actually we've beat the mavs in 7th str8 games. so lmao @ your comment
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 04:52:47 PM
^^he does have a point.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 24, 2007, 08:35:56 PM
has phil lost his fuckin mind.....turiaf hasn't played....Smush & Cook should never be on the court at the same time.....Finnaly he plays shammond....stil no defense....please make the pain stop  :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 08:46:09 PM
 :-X
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: TuSlic on April 24, 2007, 08:46:45 PM
phil is sabatoging us lol

we are looking fuckin pitiful out there

smush cant play defense for shit

kwame is the most fuckin pitiful player ever, nigga dont even look like he try.

why is williams and cook in the game at all?

please don't bring back smush next season.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 24, 2007, 08:47:58 PM
PHIL IS PLAYING MIND GAMES..HE WANTS THE SUNS TO THINK WE SUCK  AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CATCH THEM OFF GUARD AND BEAT THEM THE NEXT 4 GAMES  :P
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 08:48:43 PM
PHIL IS PLAYING MIND GAMES..HE WANTS THE SUNS TO THINK WE SUCK  AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CATCH THEM OFF GUARD AND BEAT THEM THE NEXT 4 GAMES  :P


You never know with Phil...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 24, 2007, 08:49:10 PM
This fuckin' game is over.  :grumpy:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 24, 2007, 08:50:09 PM


kwame is the most fuckin pitiful player ever, nigga dont even look like he try.



WHY ARE WE WASTING PLAYS ON HIM?  GO TO LAMAR IN THE POST...GO TO KOBE IN THE POST....WHERES TURAIF?......GAWDAMN!!!!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 08:52:04 PM


kwame is the most fuckin pitiful player ever, nigga dont even look like he try.



WHY ARE WE WASTING PLAYS ON HIM?  GO TO LAMAR IN THE POST...GO TO KOBE IN THE POST....WHERES TURAIF?......GAWDAMN!!!!  >:( >:(


I agree...Kwame is not the same player he was last year. They should work Lamar in the post, and Luke as well when Barbosa is guarding him. Keep Kwame concentrated on defense and rebounds. Hopefully SOMETHING happens in the locker room. :-\
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 24, 2007, 08:57:24 PM
Turiaf..0 minutes.....why?....WHY?....WHY?....WHY?....WHY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 24, 2007, 09:12:22 PM
The piece of shit official aren't going to let us get back in it.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 24, 2007, 09:12:49 PM
I can't watch this. These guys look like they've never played basketball a day in their lives.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 09:18:21 PM
I can't watch this. These guys look like they've never played basketball a day in their lives.


Switch the channel. Maybe our luck will change...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 24, 2007, 09:21:29 PM
damn this is fucking sad.LA is really in some deep trouble now.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: TuSlic on April 24, 2007, 09:25:20 PM
oh wow these ma fuckas gonna score 100 in the 3rd
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 24, 2007, 09:26:41 PM
I am fuckin' disgusted. I'm ashamed to be a Laker fan right now.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 24, 2007, 09:28:07 PM
I can't watch this. These guys look like they've never played basketball a day in their lives.


Switch the channel. Maybe our luck will change...

Kill yourself. Maybe this forum will be asshole free...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 09:59:26 PM
I can't watch this. These guys look like they've never played basketball a day in their lives.


Switch the channel. Maybe our luck will change...

Kill yourself. Maybe this forum will be asshole free...



You kept watching, huh? :nawty:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 24, 2007, 10:20:33 PM
We can still do it...Time for the Suns to sleep. Lets take care of these next 2 at home. Remember, I said we'll win 2 out of the next 3 after game 1...Anyone think that's impossible? Cuz I don't.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 24, 2007, 11:45:29 PM
Where to begin? You know what. I'm not even going to say anything. Just go ahead and look at the scoreboard.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: js83 on April 25, 2007, 01:14:45 AM
We can still do it...Time for the Suns to sleep. Lets take care of these next 2 at home. Remember, I said we'll win 2 out of the next 3 after game 1...Anyone think that's impossible? Cuz I don't.

Do what? it's gonna take a fucking miracle for the Lakers to win the series...this entire team needs to be overhauled in the summer...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 25, 2007, 01:55:51 AM
1) Phoenix is the best team out of the two, easly.
2) We could have won Game-1, but we didn't.
3) It's looking like a 4-1 maybe 4-2 for the Suns.
4) We're still worse than then, so we gotta accept it.
5) But miracles happens, so until it's over we shouldn't stop to have faith in them.

P.S. I hope Mitch does something important in the summer, even if it's extremely hard. But we gotta try something. We will never win a title with this roster.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Hatesrats™ on April 25, 2007, 06:31:31 AM
Lake show is gonna have to get rid of their youngin's to obtain what they need..
Bigtime overhaul.
We need to play for today not for 10 years from now, KB is in his prime right now!!
Next season need's some J.O'neil or KG.

Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 25, 2007, 08:48:59 AM
Let's forget and focus on Game 3... anything can happen , nobody thought the Suns were gonna come back from a 3-1 deficit so you never know.. even if it's very frustrating (woke up at 4.30 am to watch this game  :D..). It's obvious we're not at the same level we were last year, both as team and indivuals players, when the Suns have added Amare in the middle.. if we go on playing like this, we'll be swept but I know some players gonna react and defend Lakers pride.. plus it's an usual thing in the playoffs, when a team is down 2-0 and has been destroyed in the 2nd game, game 3 is often won by this team..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: HD on April 25, 2007, 09:23:38 AM
lakers are getting owned
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 25, 2007, 09:29:26 AM
Let's not forget the conference semifinals in 2004. Lakers were down 2-0 and won the next 4 games versus San Antonio. 8) Admittedly the Lakers aren't as good as they were 3 years ago, but the Suns aren't as good as the Spurs either.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 25, 2007, 09:35:20 AM
^^^^ yeah but mentally wise, we're not the same team too.. players like Shaq, Malone and Payton have huge egos and pride.. on the current team, outside Kobe of course, Ronny and Farmar, others are soft mentality wise imo..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 25, 2007, 09:37:28 AM
^Hopefully some home court will help out.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on April 25, 2007, 09:39:07 AM
From a neutral position, this game was pretty entertaining. Suns play some very entertaining offense when the defense is as non-existant as it was yesterday. Some sick assists by Nash followed by alley-oop power dunks and shit. Lakers were terrible for the most part.. Kobe had some odd turnovers, too.

The only positive thing the Lakers can have from this game is that now there is a chance that the Suns won't take them seriously anymore.

That being said, Lakers are not anywhere near to being the team they were with the great Shaquille O'Neal.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 25, 2007, 09:57:12 AM


That being said, Lakers are not anywhere near to being the team they were with the great Shaquille O'Neal.
well with this roster, they never will.. if we surround Kobe with a 2nd star and some good players, we gonna win some titles
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 25, 2007, 11:14:47 AM
2..........0

And Laker fans (was one myself) are still in denial about their team.

Shoulda never let the big man go...!!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 25, 2007, 11:20:45 AM
2..........0

And Laker fans (was one myself) are still in denial about their team.

Shoulda never let the big man go...!!

Heat down 2-0 as well, The Big Man had to go, I'm a huge Shaq fan. I never owned a Kobe jersey, I owed a Shaq one, I never collected Kobe cards, but I got Shaq since he was a Magic. Trading Shaq was just business, it freed up cap room, it gave us Odom, and it started the transition to the future. Right now, the Lakers would be dying off, Horry is too old, Fox would retire and Fisher would still leave trying to leave the Laker's shadows, and the Lakers would get eliminated in the first round this year, and all the news would be the fall of the Lakers, not that the Lakers need parts to rebuild. It's that easy, trading Shaq freed up the future... so stop living in the past. Its strickly business.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 11:39:04 AM
We can still do it...Time for the Suns to sleep. Lets take care of these next 2 at home. Remember, I said we'll win 2 out of the next 3 after game 1...Anyone think that's impossible? Cuz I don't.

Do what? it's gonna take a fucking miracle for the Lakers to win the series...this entire team needs to be overhauled in the summer...


I think the Suns will go to sleep, Lakers woke up (hopefully), and we'll win the next 2 at home...That will even the series out and make it up for grabs. Even before the loss, I said 2 of the next 3. Everyone knows it's easier to win home games. ;)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 25, 2007, 11:39:41 AM
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Living in the past? How long has Kobe had to organize the game plan with the Lakers?

Yeah, Shaq is old...however look at both team's records? What were their standings last when the seasons ended? How far did each team get?

You muthafuckers still fail to see that the only thing Kobe is good for is building HIMSELF as a player. He has absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the Lakers.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 25, 2007, 11:49:50 AM
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Living in the past? How long has Kobe had to organize the game plan with the Lakers?

Yeah, Shaq is old...however look at both team's records? What were their standings last when the seasons ended? How far did each team get?

You muthafuckers still fail to see that the only thing Kobe is good for is building HIMSELF as a player. He has absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the Lakers.

Shaq is old, the Lakers in the early 2000's, had a better supporting cast, and Kobe had yet to come into his own yet. Now it's Kobe's time, it's just a matter of getting a team around him. You are living in the past dogg, the Lakers had to move forward, and they did. They are building, and trading Shaq made them better this year than if they kept Shaq, bottom line.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 11:50:29 AM
Let's forget and focus on Game 3... anything can happen , nobody thought the Suns were gonna come back from a 3-1 deficit so you never know.. even if it's very frustrating (woke up at 4.30 am to watch this game  :D..). It's obvious we're not at the same level we were last year, both as team and indivuals players, when the Suns have added Amare in the middle.. if we go on playing like this, we'll be swept but I know some players gonna react and defend Lakers pride.. plus it's an usual thing in the playoffs, when a team is down 2-0 and has been destroyed in the 2nd game, game 3 is often won by this team..



Were not on the same level as last year as individual players? We have a better roster on paper this year, man...It's the mentality we came into the playoffs with that's killing us. Last year, we went in with an 11-3 record (in our last 14 games). This year, we came into it down on ourselves...Now ask yourself, do you really believe our talent has subsided that much this year? The additions of Farmar, Evans, Turiaf, Radman, and the emergence of Luke and Bynum IMPROVED us talentwise...But we just cant get over that mental hump. Hopefully, this did it for us. :-\


And does anyone else miss Chris Mihm as much as I do? I mean, last year you couldn't feel his absence as much, cuz Kwame was playing his game and tearing it up. This year, with the injuries and what not, Kwame has been lacking and we've been hurting majorly on the inside. Phil really needs to give Turiaf and Bynum more minutes...I mean, Bynum got 9 points (4-7 FG) and 12 rebounds in only 17 minutes...And Turiaf only came in the game when it was already over...That's a little upsetting.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 11:51:32 AM
Let's not forget the conference semifinals in 2004. Lakers were down 2-0 and won the next 4 games versus San Antonio. 8) Admittedly the Lakers aren't as good as they were 3 years ago, but the Suns aren't as good as the Spurs either.


Someone knows what's up. :rock:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 11:57:21 AM
/\

Living in the past? How long has Kobe had to organize the game plan with the Lakers?

Yeah, Shaq is old...however look at both team's records? What were their standings last when the seasons ended? How far did each team get?

You muthafuckers still fail to see that the only thing Kobe is good for is building HIMSELF as a player. He has absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the Lakers.



Kobe has nothing to contribute to the Lakers? BWAHAHAHAHAHA....Muthafucka single-handedly willed a team made mostly of D-League prospects into the playoffs! If you're gunna make bold claims, at least check that thay make sense beforehand. Keeping Shaq woulda' been the dumbest thing possible for the Lakers...Shaq on these Lakers instead of Kobe would make us one of the worst teams ever. :puke:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: eS El Duque on April 25, 2007, 11:57:46 AM
lmao...peace out lakers

Wanna bet your account on that?

lol..you wanan bet your account?

Looks like the Lakers arn't doin anything.

I was a little nervous for you guys yesterday when it looked like Bryant rolled his ankle
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 11:58:48 AM
And Laker fans (was one myself)



Ohhhhh...Now everything makes sense.


:banana_llama: RIDIN THE BANDWAGGON :banana_llama:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 25, 2007, 12:00:45 PM
/\

Living in the past? How long has Kobe had to organize the game plan with the Lakers?

Yeah, Shaq is old...however look at both team's records? What were their standings last when the seasons ended? How far did each team get?

You muthafuckers still fail to see that the only thing Kobe is good for is building HIMSELF as a player. He has absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the Lakers.

Shaq is old, the Lakers in the early 2000's, had a better supporting cast, and Kobe had yet to come into his own yet. Now it's Kobe's time, it's just a matter of getting a team around him. You are living in the past dogg, the Lakers had to move forward, and they did. They are building, and trading Shaq made them better this year than if they kept Shaq, bottom line.

Miss me with that Shaq is old bullshit. You're using a weak arguement to cover Kobe's weakness as a contributer to the Lakers. We're talking about the Lakers as a team, and you're saying it's a matter of time for Kobe to lead this into an organized, successful group?


Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 25, 2007, 12:01:00 PM
/\

Living in the past? How long has Kobe had to organize the game plan with the Lakers?

Yeah, Shaq is old...however look at both team's records? What were their standings last when the seasons ended? How far did each team get?

You muthafuckers still fail to see that the only thing Kobe is good for is building HIMSELF as a player. He has absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the Lakers.

It's not his fault that his teammates suck.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 12:01:36 PM
a weak arguement to cover Kobe's weakness as a contributer to the Lakers.


AHAHAHAHAHAHA


Never stop posting man.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 25, 2007, 12:03:23 PM
/\

Living in the past? How long has Kobe had to organize the game plan with the Lakers?

Yeah, Shaq is old...however look at both team's records? What were their standings last when the seasons ended? How far did each team get?

You muthafuckers still fail to see that the only thing Kobe is good for is building HIMSELF as a player. He has absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the Lakers.

It's not his fault that his teammates suck.
"It's not HIS fault that his teammates suck" = a LOSERs mentality.

That'z an arguement I expected a little 3 year old girl to come with.


Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 12:15:20 PM
^^Please tell me you've never watched a full game of basketball.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 25, 2007, 12:20:15 PM
The only thing i've watched is you're fruity ass spend 23 hours and a half a day on this site making a straight idiot out of yourself.

Then again, i'm wondering what the fuck I'm doing arguing with an imbecile who believes his 10 year old opinions are facts.

Get you're dumb ass a life. Then get at me, homie.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 25, 2007, 12:22:01 PM
/\

Living in the past? How long has Kobe had to organize the game plan with the Lakers?

Yeah, Shaq is old...however look at both team's records? What were their standings last when the seasons ended? How far did each team get?

You muthafuckers still fail to see that the only thing Kobe is good for is building HIMSELF as a player. He has absolutely NOTHING to contribute to the Lakers.

It's not his fault that his teammates suck.
"It's not HIS fault that his teammates suck" = a LOSERs mentality.

That'z an arguement I expected a little 3 year old girl to come with.




Lol so if Kobe goes out and scores 30 points and dishes out 10 assist and we lose, its still his fault? Kobe brings it everynight, its his teammates that show up once every few games. If you don't like Kobe then just say so and leave it at that, but you sound hella dumb saying Kobe doesn't contribute to the team.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 12:29:53 PM
The only thing i've watched is you're fruity ass spend 23 hours and a half a day on this site making a straight idiot out of yourself.

Then again, i'm wondering what the fuck I'm doing arguing with an imbecile who believes his 10 year old opinions are facts.

Get you're dumb ass a life. Then get at me, homie.


That's really the only thing you watch? Cuz that would explain why you're this dumb. I post here from work, meaning I'm getting paid to help people realize that you're dumb on your free time. But I don't really have to do much, cuz you do most of the work yourself, with quotes like, "Kobe has nothing to contribute to the Lakers". :laugh:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 25, 2007, 12:34:32 PM
^^ lmao +1
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 25, 2007, 12:37:40 PM
I post here from work, meaning I'm getting paid to help people realize that you're dumb on your free time.
LMAO
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 25, 2007, 12:38:25 PM
sorry laker fans but its over. after hearing lamars comments after the game in the locker room. he was fucking pissed started questioning the lakers commaraderie and shit like that. aint no way u can bounce back from that type of shit.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 25, 2007, 12:39:21 PM
Let's forget and focus on Game 3... anything can happen , nobody thought the Suns were gonna come back from a 3-1 deficit so you never know.. even if it's very frustrating (woke up at 4.30 am to watch this game  :D..). It's obvious we're not at the same level we were last year, both as team and indivuals players, when the Suns have added Amare in the middle.. if we go on playing like this, we'll be swept but I know some players gonna react and defend Lakers pride.. plus it's an usual thing in the playoffs, when a team is down 2-0 and has been destroyed in the 2nd game, game 3 is often won by this team..



Were not on the same level as last year as individual players? We have a better roster on paper this year, man...It's the mentality we came into the playoffs with that's killing us. Last year, we went in with an 11-3 record (in our last 14 games). This year, we came into it down on ourselves...Now ask yourself, do you really believe our talent has subsided that much this year? The additions of Farmar, Evans, Turiaf, Radman, and the emergence of Luke and Bynum IMPROVED us talentwise...But we just cant get over that mental hump. Hopefully, this did it for us. :-\


And does anyone else miss Chris Mihm as much as I do? I mean, last year you couldn't feel his absence as much, cuz Kwame was playing his game and tearing it up. This year, with the injuries and what not, Kwame has been lacking and we've been hurting majorly on the inside. Phil really needs to give Turiaf and Bynum more minutes...I mean, Bynum got 9 points (4-7 FG) and 12 rebounds in only 17 minutes...And Turiaf only came in the game when it was already over...That's a little upsetting.

that was bad english from me.. what I meant , it was Kwame, Lamar (thought he had a good 1st game), Smush aren't on the level they were last year in the playoffs.. of course, we're a way deeper team this year
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 25, 2007, 12:54:31 PM
The only thing i've watched is you're fruity ass spend 23 hours and a half a day on this site making a straight idiot out of yourself.

Then again, i'm wondering what the fuck I'm doing arguing with an imbecile who believes his 10 year old opinions are facts.

Get you're dumb ass a life. Then get at me, homie.


That's really the only thing you watch? Cuz that would explain why you're this dumb. I post here from work, meaning I'm getting paid to help people realize that you're dumb on your free time. But I don't really have to do much, cuz you do most of the work yourself, with quotes like, "Kobe has nothing to contribute to the Lakers". :laugh:

All you do is come back with meaningless ass comments. Until I see Kobe take the Lakers to a championship, then we can talk shit over.

Until then keep thinking Kobe's dick will go in your asshole.

And again, KOBE HAS NO VALUE AS A TEAM PLAYER. IN NO WAY.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 01:38:51 PM
^^^^


And Laker fans (was one myself)



Ohhhhh...Now everything makes sense.


:banana_llama: RIDIN THE BANDWAGGON :banana_llama:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 25, 2007, 01:40:17 PM
sorry laker fans but its over. after hearing lamars comments after the game in the locker room. he was fucking pissed started questioning the lakers commaraderie and shit like that. aint no way u can bounce back from that type of shit.

What happened??
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 25, 2007, 01:42:48 PM
Oh, and BiG*WiCkEd get the fuck out of here you fake fan. You're a shame for us real Laker fans.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 25, 2007, 02:11:10 PM
You're the exact same reason this lame ass Los Angeles team keeps the non-sense up.

Owners KNOW Kobe's bitch ass is a good marketing to the league.

There'z another 2.3 billion dumbass puppets like you supporting an unssuccessful ass, unorganized group of idiots running around the court.

Until us TRUE Laker fans change that shit, which is almost impossible, we'll still see a hogging ass muthafucker like Kobe puttin on a show just for himself....who can't get passed the playoffs.

So both of you asswipes can shove #8 up your asses.

Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on April 25, 2007, 02:14:26 PM
^LMFAO
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 25, 2007, 04:37:38 PM
You're the exact same reason this lame ass Los Angeles team keeps the non-sense up.

Owners KNOW Kobe's bitch ass is a good marketing to the league.

There'z another 2.3 billion dumbass puppets like you supporting an unssuccessful ass, unorganized group of idiots running around the court.

Until us TRUE Laker fans change that shit, which is almost impossible, we'll still see a hogging ass muthafucker like Kobe puttin on a show just for himself....who can't get passed the playoffs.

So both of you asswipes can shove #8 up your asses.




LMFAO...This guy claims to be a Laker fan!


And even funnier, he just referred to Kobe as "#8".:laugh:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 26, 2007, 02:14:22 AM
-1
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 26, 2007, 10:29:20 AM
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OOOH nnooo!!!! NO! Don't hurt my karma!!!!


hahaha bitch, please.


The truth hurt, don't it?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on April 26, 2007, 11:17:32 AM
^^ +1 the lakers need to do something drastic in order to win. kobe is not enough
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 26, 2007, 11:42:48 AM
:'(
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/deenyce24/kobe20pouting.gif)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 26, 2007, 11:48:53 AM
I"m waiting for a huge reaction.. if not I will be very disappointed... GO LAKERS  8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 26, 2007, 12:06:14 PM
I have a good feeling the Lakers are going to win today. The home crowed will go crazy and will help rejuvenate the Lakers. Don't know what's going to happen in games 4 or 5 though.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 26, 2007, 04:39:32 PM
^^ +1 the lakers need to do something drastic in order to win. kobe is not enough


LOL. That bandwaggon fan is claiming Kobe is the problem though.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 26, 2007, 04:40:44 PM
I have a good feeling the Lakers are going to win today. The home crowed will go crazy and will help rejuvenate the Lakers. Don't know what's going to happen in games 4 or 5 though.



I think I might go to game 4. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 26, 2007, 05:10:39 PM
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bandwagon?

haha, I might go just for the sole reason of my wanting to put you on your back.

Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: "THE" MoSav on April 26, 2007, 05:11:43 PM
i think the lakers will boucne back tonight..but damn the Suns look good
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 26, 2007, 05:12:35 PM
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bandwagon?

haha, I might go just for the sole reason of my wanting to put you on your back.




Mitchell.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: BiG*WiCkEd on April 26, 2007, 06:18:40 PM
No, really. I truly hope to catch you there and whoop your ass from here to another planet.

And i'ma be doing this on behalf of more than half of the forum members in here.

Trick.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 26, 2007, 07:19:37 PM
No, really. I truly hope to catch you there and whoop your ass from here to another planet.

And i'ma be doing this on behalf of more than half of the forum members in here.

Trick.

No really, you're a Mitchell. I promise you wont do shit.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 26, 2007, 08:35:19 PM
SMH @ turiaf not getting playing time,,,,kwame is gettin owned by Amare..kwame is not healthy...PUT TURIAF INTHE GAME , PHIL!!!!!!! :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 26, 2007, 08:37:52 PM
THE TURNOVERS... :stupid:  FUCK THE REFS..PIECES OF SHITS
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 26, 2007, 08:38:51 PM
A NOTHER "AND 1" BY KOBE :rock: :rock: :rock: :raisetheroof: :raisetheroof: :raisetheroof:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 26, 2007, 08:41:31 PM
THE REFS SUCK DICK

KOBE TAKING OVER
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 26, 2007, 08:45:07 PM
im really happy how the Lakers are playing right now if they can keep this up the entire game to should come out with a win.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 26, 2007, 09:26:13 PM
oh no not another ankle injury now!!!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 26, 2007, 09:48:08 PM
get Cook outta the fucking game...WHERE...THE...FUCK....IS...TURIAF!?!!??!!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 26, 2007, 10:16:16 PM
Kwame, Kwame, Kwame! :raisetheroof:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 26, 2007, 10:17:27 PM
^^ he had an amazing 2nd half....
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 26, 2007, 10:20:42 PM
Gentlemen...we have ourselves a series.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 26, 2007, 10:21:48 PM
Smush proving my point that he is a bitch.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 26, 2007, 10:22:04 PM
Oh yeah, baby. Hopefully we could keep playing like this.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: LAKERS_FAN89 on April 26, 2007, 10:35:56 PM
yes great win great D,let keep this up LOL @ smush and the last second when he try to dunk it and raja block it that was funny great win thought 8) L'UP
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 26, 2007, 10:41:03 PM
Damn I havent seen kobe drive to the hoop as much as he did today in a long time.I loved the way we played D as a team and i think this was the first time we held a team to less than 100pts for awhile.Good games overall by Kwame and Odom too.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 26, 2007, 10:42:34 PM
If we're going to win this series we gotta win in on the defense.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 26, 2007, 11:30:49 PM
Raja Bell is a piece of shit. I knew we'd win today.


Im going to game 4. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 26, 2007, 11:31:53 PM
SMH @ turiaf not getting playing time,,,,kwame is gettin owned by Amare..kwame is not healthy...PUT TURIAF INTHE GAME , PHIL!!!!!!! :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:


Dunno what you're talking about. Kwame did great today. It is strange that Turiaf didn't get many minutes though. ???
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: WILL-I-DIE on April 26, 2007, 11:46:29 PM
fuck the suns ! now we need to win on sunday so it can be 2-2
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 26, 2007, 11:46:38 PM
they should use Turaif instead of Cook because he sucks ass on D.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: thisoneguy360 on April 26, 2007, 11:47:37 PM
That was a great game, glad Kwame finally stepped his shit up
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: TuSlic on April 27, 2007, 12:11:52 AM
lol kwame must have heard niggas talkin bout him, everytime he touched the ball me and the homies would be like noooo, and he'd always fuck up, but after that injury he stepped up.

good win
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 27, 2007, 12:28:35 AM
SMH @ turiaf not getting playing time,,,,kwame is gettin owned by Amare..kwame is not healthy...PUT TURIAF INTHE GAME , PHIL!!!!!!! :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:


Dunno what you're talking about. Kwame did great today. It is strange that Turiaf didn't get many minutes though. ???
I think Phil is just letting his starters play more so they can get their rhythm back. The Lakers have been so out of sink.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 27, 2007, 12:31:24 AM
You see how good the team can be when they play a little D and stop jscking up 3's.? Even Kobe was driving and look at the result: 57.6% shooting, 6 rebounds, 6 assists.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: eS El Duque on April 27, 2007, 12:32:23 AM
FOLLOW MY LEAD
(http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0426/nba_a_bryant3_412.jpg)



^^Thats a cool picture
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 27, 2007, 12:45:42 AM
SMH @ turiaf not getting playing time,,,,kwame is gettin owned by Amare..kwame is not healthy...PUT TURIAF INTHE GAME , PHIL!!!!!!! :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:


Dunno what you're talking about. Kwame did great today. It is strange that Turiaf didn't get many minutes though. ???
I think Phil is just letting his starters play more so they can get their rhythm back. The Lakers have been so out of sink.


Yea...BTW, did anyone catch what Barkley said? "The Lakers won this game because they sped up the tempo"... LMAO.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 27, 2007, 12:47:47 AM
...and even funnier, PAT BURKE talking shit before the game:

Pat Burke on Kobe Bryant: "If Kobe’s going out and he’s hitting these crazy shots, nine times out of 10, if he keeps shooting like that, they’re going to lose against us. One guy playing against five is never going to win. It’s remarkable whenever I watch Kobe and I see (his teammates) on the floor, they don’t even have their hands up for a pass because they know he’s not passing. It’s the most selfish basketball I think I’ve ever seen. I don’t care how good he is, it’s not going to work."

LMAO. :stupid:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 27, 2007, 12:53:22 AM
SMH @ turiaf not getting playing time,,,,kwame is gettin owned by Amare..kwame is not healthy...PUT TURIAF INTHE GAME , PHIL!!!!!!! :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:


Dunno what you're talking about. Kwame did great today. It is strange that Turiaf didn't get many minutes though. ???
I think Phil is just letting his starters play more so they can get their rhythm back. The Lakers have been so out of sink.


Yea...BTW, did anyone catch what Barkley said? "The Lakers won this game because they sped up the tempo"... LMAO.
No. I was watching the game on FSN West. Home of the Lakers. Why weren't you? :oi:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 27, 2007, 12:57:11 AM
Tony Mejia:
Quote
Know why Kobe Bryant's 45-point effort was so great? He did it quietly. It wasn't the typical, floating jumper-filled, going-up-over-three-and-four-bodies efforts that have become the norm during his recent scoring orgy. Bryant lifted his teammates. Morale was a major part of L.A.'s victory, largely due to how he played, not forcing the action. That's all I've been saying all along. Can you recognize the difference between hating and constructive criticism, Lakers fan?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 27, 2007, 12:57:59 AM
SMH @ turiaf not getting playing time,,,,kwame is gettin owned by Amare..kwame is not healthy...PUT TURIAF INTHE GAME , PHIL!!!!!!! :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:


Dunno what you're talking about. Kwame did great today. It is strange that Turiaf didn't get many minutes though. ???
I think Phil is just letting his starters play more so they can get their rhythm back. The Lakers have been so out of sink.


Yea...BTW, did anyone catch what Barkley said? "The Lakers won this game because they sped up the tempo"... LMAO.
No. I was watching the game on FSN West. Home of the Lakers. Why weren't you? :oi:


AFTER the game...Watched it on FSN, but switched the channels back and forth during half time and post game analysis.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Don Jacob on April 27, 2007, 12:58:11 AM
all i got to say is "IT"S ABOUT TIME" . like i said we need to win the game not halfs of quarters...we dominated them in the last 3 quarters....don't like the slow start but good to get the w anyway we can.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 27, 2007, 12:59:13 AM
Tony Mejia:
Quote
Know why Kobe Bryant's 45-point effort was so great? He did it quietly. It wasn't the typical, floating jumper-filled, going-up-over-three-and-four-bodies efforts that have become the norm during his recent scoring orgy. Bryant lifted his teammates. Morale was a major part of L.A.'s victory, largely due to how he played, not forcing the action. That's all I've been saying all along. Can you recognize the difference between hating and constructive criticism, Lakers fan?

This guys a moron. It was the TEAMMATES who picked it up, Kobe played his regular game.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 27, 2007, 01:09:15 AM
Kobe owning Marion  ;D  8)

http://www.youtube.com/v/YmAKVw1q1mw
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Black_Smoke on April 27, 2007, 02:40:23 AM
Kobe owning Marion  ;D  8)

http://www.youtube.com/v/YmAKVw1q1mw

sick  8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on April 27, 2007, 03:30:40 AM
 :cheers:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 27, 2007, 08:52:07 AM
Great win  8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Tha G In Deee on April 27, 2007, 08:53:19 AM
Kobe owning Marion  ;D  8)

http://www.youtube.com/v/YmAKVw1q1mw
LOL, Matrix got smoked. 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 27, 2007, 09:01:20 AM
Marion can't guard Kobe, he proved that yesterday.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 27, 2007, 11:28:35 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: d-nice on April 27, 2007, 11:33:06 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 27, 2007, 11:43:09 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 27, 2007, 12:02:57 PM
Tony Mejia:
Quote
Know why Kobe Bryant's 45-point effort was so great? He did it quietly. It wasn't the typical, floating jumper-filled, going-up-over-three-and-four-bodies efforts that have become the norm during his recent scoring orgy. Bryant lifted his teammates. Morale was a major part of L.A.'s victory, largely due to how he played, not forcing the action. That's all I've been saying all along. Can you recognize the difference between hating and constructive criticism, Lakers fan?

This guys a moron. It was the TEAMMATES who picked it up, Kobe played his regular game.
I like Tony Mejia's articles. Before the playoffs he was giving the Lakers props all season. Especially to Bynum. Since the playoffs started, he seems to think the Lakers ain't shit compared to the Suns.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: eS El Duque on April 27, 2007, 12:19:02 PM
Tony Mejia:
Quote
Know why Kobe Bryant's 45-point effort was so great? He did it quietly. It wasn't the typical, floating jumper-filled, going-up-over-three-and-four-bodies efforts that have become the norm during his recent scoring orgy. Bryant lifted his teammates. Morale was a major part of L.A.'s victory, largely due to how he played, not forcing the action. That's all I've been saying all along. Can you recognize the difference between hating and constructive criticism, Lakers fan?

This guys a moron. It was the TEAMMATES who picked it up, Kobe played his regular game.
I like Tony Mejia's articles. Before the playoffs he was giving the Lakers props all season. Especially to Bynum. Since the playoffs started, he seems to think the Lakers ain't shit compared to the Suns.

Can you blame him? Lakers could'nt do shit to Suns in the first two games
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 27, 2007, 12:27:10 PM
Tony Mejia:
Quote
Know why Kobe Bryant's 45-point effort was so great? He did it quietly. It wasn't the typical, floating jumper-filled, going-up-over-three-and-four-bodies efforts that have become the norm during his recent scoring orgy. Bryant lifted his teammates. Morale was a major part of L.A.'s victory, largely due to how he played, not forcing the action. That's all I've been saying all along. Can you recognize the difference between hating and constructive criticism, Lakers fan?

This guys a moron. It was the TEAMMATES who picked it up, Kobe played his regular game.
I like Tony Mejia's articles. Before the playoffs he was giving the Lakers props all season. Especially to Bynum. Since the playoffs started, he seems to think the Lakers ain't shit compared to the Suns.

Can you blame him? Lakers could'nt do shit to Suns in the first two games
Even before the series started he was giving them any chance against the Suns.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 27, 2007, 12:28:10 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 27, 2007, 12:32:41 PM
Tony Mejia:
Quote
Know why Kobe Bryant's 45-point effort was so great? He did it quietly. It wasn't the typical, floating jumper-filled, going-up-over-three-and-four-bodies efforts that have become the norm during his recent scoring orgy. Bryant lifted his teammates. Morale was a major part of L.A.'s victory, largely due to how he played, not forcing the action. That's all I've been saying all along. Can you recognize the difference between hating and constructive criticism, Lakers fan?

This guys a moron. It was the TEAMMATES who picked it up, Kobe played his regular game.
I like Tony Mejia's articles. Before the playoffs he was giving the Lakers props all season. Especially to Bynum. Since the playoffs started, he seems to think the Lakers ain't shit compared to the Suns.

The morons who get too excited when the Lakers play shitty and pretend like that's them at their best are the ones I hate the most. Whether he gave the Lakers props or not, dude said some dumb shit...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 27, 2007, 12:41:43 PM
Kobe owning Marion  ;D  8)

http://www.youtube.com/v/YmAKVw1q1mw

That's just not fair.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 27, 2007, 12:46:56 PM
I think I'm gunna go with a sign that says "TinkerBELL...Stop flopping".
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 27, 2007, 12:51:41 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe


But they ARE a playoff team, they got past the 1st round last year, and they will this year too. I do know the game, I'm just not obssesive over it like some people.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 27, 2007, 12:52:20 PM
I think I'm gunna go with a sign that says "TinkerBELL...Stop flopping".

That fag does flop extremely too much.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 27, 2007, 12:57:16 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe


But they ARE a playoff team, they got past the 1st round last year, and they will this year too. I do know the game, I'm just not obssesive over it like some people.


They will never win anything playing like that. I guarantee it.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 27, 2007, 03:36:21 PM
If Kwame can do anything in this series and Odom getting more assertive i can see us still pulling out the series but the bottom line is it all comes down to how well the Lakers as a group Playing Defense.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 28, 2007, 09:30:29 AM
Any suggestions for a sign I could take?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 28, 2007, 10:25:28 AM
Any suggestions for a sign I could take?

How bout:

"Hey Suns, FUCK YOU!" or "Rik is #1!"
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 28, 2007, 11:24:07 AM
Have a sign thats says "Phoenix Bums".
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 28, 2007, 04:58:36 PM
Any suggestions for a sign I could take?

"I chose Smush over our Coaches"

 ;D :grumpy:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 28, 2007, 06:40:07 PM
"ING is not a real Laker fan" ;D
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 28, 2007, 10:42:54 PM
"ING is not a real Laker fan" ;D

LOL. Good one.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 05:16:45 AM
Let's GO Lakers .. tie this shit up.. and Nik why not some shit like : "Hey Dantoni, I guess Kwame is still awful"
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 29, 2007, 08:20:05 AM
How bout a big sign that says "Kwame > Amare"...LOL.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 29, 2007, 09:21:21 AM
Because of the imbalance, oft-maligned forward Vladimir Radmanovic could return to the active roster for today's game. Radmanovic was deactivated for Games 2 and 3.

"I'd like to get Vlade back dressed again," Jackson said. "He's looking like he's shooting his shots again [in practice]."

Brian Cook, who has a couple of minor injuries this series — a sprained left thumb and a sprained left ankle — could be put on the inactive roster to make room for Radmanovic.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers29apr29,12794233.story?track=rss
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Tha G In Deee on April 29, 2007, 10:09:50 AM
Because of the imbalance, oft-maligned forward Vladimir Radmanovic could return to the active roster for today's game. Radmanovic was deactivated for Games 2 and 3.

"I'd like to get Vlade back dressed again," Jackson said. "He's looking like he's shooting his shots again [in practice]."

Brian Cook, who has a couple of minor injuries this series — a sprained left thumb and a sprained left ankle — could be put on the inactive roster to make room for Radmanovic.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers29apr29,12794233.story?track=rss


 :o :o :o
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: thisoneguy360 on April 29, 2007, 12:43:00 PM
This games gonna be good  8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 29, 2007, 12:59:30 PM
This game's already getting crazy. :o
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 29, 2007, 01:01:05 PM
Because of the imbalance, oft-maligned forward Vladimir Radmanovic could return to the active roster for today's game. Radmanovic was deactivated for Games 2 and 3.

"I'd like to get Vlade back dressed again," Jackson said. "He's looking like he's shooting his shots again [in practice]."

Brian Cook, who has a couple of minor injuries this series — a sprained left thumb and a sprained left ankle — could be put on the inactive roster to make room for Radmanovic.


http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers29apr29,12794233.story?track=rss


 :o :o :o
Vlad Rad doesn't do shit for this team anymore. He's just another perimeter player on a team that already likes to jack up 3's.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 01:01:22 PM
^^^^ We play no D.. we better to grab some offensive rebounds to slow it down
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 01:46:58 PM
We have to take care of the boards.. to be honest I'm not feeling how things go  :-\... but LETS GO LAKERS  8) 8) and fuck the Suns
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 29, 2007, 01:53:04 PM
Are you kiding? The Lakers are playing with a lot of energy and the supporting cast is contrinuting. Aside from the score, things are going good for the Lakers.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 02:01:39 PM
^^^^ Where did I say we don't play well... I agree offensive wise, everybody is contributing BUT we have to take care of the boards.. I'm pleased with the 2nd quarter though.. I was just saying I have a bad feeling, nothing more
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 29, 2007, 02:26:17 PM
This team has the combined IQ of a shoe. They had Phoenix in a half court set - we were up by 3. We started running and taking quick jumpers - we're down by 12. They should know this from last season - take the ball in the paint and stick with your man on d!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 02:33:36 PM
this 3rd qtr may be the worst playoffs quarter I saw  :-X
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 29, 2007, 02:43:43 PM
^You jinxed them.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on April 29, 2007, 03:08:27 PM
like a doctor with a stethoscope, I don't see no fuckin hope
unless the Lakers get a good PG in the Off-Season
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 03:17:05 PM
¨^^^^ we will heard the same BS .. we're young a team with a bright team , Bynum gonna develop blah blah blah, and Lakers fans like me will be very dissapointed once again
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Vegasmac25 on April 29, 2007, 03:24:42 PM
This shit just killed my day.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 29, 2007, 03:38:49 PM
We had to many turnovers....kobe, luke, Farmar were making some bad passes....real sloppy game......no defense...no one helps each other out...lazy on rotations...

like lamar said...this team is not together  :-X :-\

the last couple months if kobe doesn't score a lot of points this team get's blown out......
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 29, 2007, 03:40:09 PM
This shit just killed my day.
:sign_werd:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Tha G In Deee on April 29, 2007, 07:30:22 PM
This shit just killed my day.
:sign_werd:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 29, 2007, 10:46:58 PM
Is it too soon to be talking about the offseason?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on April 29, 2007, 10:50:03 PM
Is it too soon to be talking about the offseason?

Yes, especially since we're winning the Championship.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 10:56:39 PM
Is it too soon to be talking about the offseason?
Naw.. get a good point guard and trade Lamar-Bynum for Jermaine Oneal (the star we apparently have the more chances to acquire).. I've already seen comments "Bynum is the future" coming but I don't give a fuck being a contender in 2015.. and for Lamar, John Barry (who has been horrible through the game,  the BEST Nash dickrider I've ever heard) said ONE good at the end of the game : Odom is a very good player but Kobe and him haven't done nothing together
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 29, 2007, 11:02:49 PM
Is it too soon to be talking about the offseason?
Naw.. get a good point guard and trade Lamar-Bynum for Jermaine Oneal (the star we apparently have the more chances to acquire).. I've already seen comments "Bynum is the future" coming but I don't give a fuck being a contender in 2015.. and for Lamar, John Barry (who has been horrible through the game,  the BEST Nash dickrider I've ever heard) said ONE good at the end of the game : Odom is a very good player but Kobe and him haven't done nothing together
Damn. I might trade Bynum or Lamar, but definatly not both of them. And O'Neal can opt out of his contract in the offseason, so trading him wouldn't even me necceassary. Anyways, Rik said we can't talk about the offseason yet.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: teecee on April 29, 2007, 11:04:38 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 11:09:28 PM
^^^^ to get a high quality player, we'll probably to give it up both.. anyway it's all speculation but I don't see the Buss family trading Bynum.. some of Lakers fan may be pleased with the organization but I'm not AT ALL..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 29, 2007, 11:13:27 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???
lol you just said 2 big non-senses.. how the fuck Nash is better than Kobe.. please explain me.. AND a big lol at the Suns winning a title.. people who have a lil knowledge of the game know Suns got no chance against SAS
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 29, 2007, 11:42:18 PM
If the Lakers could somehow get Billups: no other team in the West would be able to breathe. I agree with WCSoldier - trade Bynum, Odom, and whoever it takes to get Kobe some real help. I said it at the start of the season, Kobe and Odom don't have much chemistry together (especially considering that he's supposed to be Kobe's Pippen). And as far as Bynum, Kobe's prime years shouldn't be waisted trying to develop a guy who looks like a lost little kid. Get me Gasol!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on April 30, 2007, 12:01:07 AM
lol @ nash bein better than Kobe..nash has a better supporting cast and the media on his dick...kobe has Odom.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 30, 2007, 12:03:36 AM
^^^^ to get a high quality player, we'll probably to give it up both.. anyway it's all speculation but I don't see the Buss family trading Bynum.. some of Lakers fan may be pleased with the organization but I'm not AT ALL..

Good to hear you talked like this....Us Laker fans should never accept mediocrity...fuck being a "Playoff Team" (put together a championship team)....fuck being "good enough to hang with the good teams"  ....4 out of the last 7 playoff games we've being blown out....that's unaccepteble..we need to sorround kobe with talent

3 years a go, we could of had Baron Davis,,lakers didn't do the trade

last year, Ron Artest...lakers didn't do it...

this season.....jason kidd....ddidn't do it...

I like bynum for dunking on shaq but if we could get a superstar for him then trade him..(along with lamar)

i like walton,,,but he's not good on defense...get G.Wallace from the bob cats....

And listening to Jim/Jerry Buss, Mitch.......it sounds like they are going to use the injury excuse to not make moves this summer...

Vlad, bynum, Farmar, Turiaf, have to be great next season or it's going to be a nother 45 win season..

I watched the game again & Gawdamn,these guys don't talk to each other on defense they looked lost..they're to slow....PLEASE MAKE MOVES TO IMPROVE THE TEAM,,JIM, JERRY, MITCH  :'( ...we need speed/athletic dudes to defend...kurt rambis said a couple months a go that almost everyone on this team wants to make an impact on offense not defense
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 30, 2007, 12:52:00 AM
Why the hell would you want to get rid of Walton? He's a stand out player. Vlad Rad is the one that needs to go. One PG is all this team needs.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on April 30, 2007, 01:05:48 AM
Luke is better coming off then bench, but i don't know if he would like that.....do you really think he could guard ..maggette, Carmelo, ron artest...keep up with the suns, ect ect?....Lakers need to get faster/ more athletic...improve the defense..

Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 30, 2007, 03:42:18 AM
Why the hell would you want to get rid of Walton? He's a stand out player. Vlad Rad is the one that needs to go. One PG is all this team needs.
One PG is ALL we need ? I disagree on that, regarding the fact we'll not acquire a top 5 PG... there is no consistent down low on this team.. are you aware our game is 95% on the perimeter? jacking up 3s .. we even shot more 3s than the Suns yesterday ..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 30, 2007, 10:11:30 AM
We can still do it, Laker fans!

I know it's hard to believe, but like Phil said, there's a chance...Now NO ONE is expecting shit...We can play loose and not have to worry about this and that, which is a mental blessing for a team like the Lakers. 3 in a row, muthafuckaz... The ultimate revenge, payback, and retribution!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 30, 2007, 10:13:49 AM
trade Lamar-Bynum for Jermaine Oneal

:puke:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 30, 2007, 10:15:58 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 30, 2007, 10:21:24 AM
^^^^ to get a high quality player, we'll probably to give it up both.. anyway it's all speculation but I don't see the Buss family trading Bynum.. some of Lakers fan may be pleased with the organization but I'm not AT ALL..

Good to hear you talked like this....Us Laker fans should never accept mediocrity...fuck being a "Playoff Team" (put together a championship team)....fuck being "good enough to hang with the good teams"  ....4 out of the last 7 playoff games we've being blown out....that's unaccepteble..we need to sorround kobe with talent

3 years a go, we could of had Baron Davis,,lakers didn't do the trade

last year, Ron Artest...lakers didn't do it...

this season.....jason kidd....ddidn't do it...

I like bynum for dunking on shaq but if we could get a superstar for him then trade him..(along with lamar)

i like walton,,,but he's not good on defense...get G.Wallace from the bob cats....

And listening to Jim/Jerry Buss, Mitch.......it sounds like they are going to use the injury excuse to not make moves this summer...

Vlad, bynum, Farmar, Turiaf, have to be great next season or it's going to be a nother 45 win season..

I watched the game again & Gawdamn,these guys don't talk to each other on defense they looked lost..they're to slow....PLEASE MAKE MOVES TO IMPROVE THE TEAM,,JIM, JERRY, MITCH  :'( ...we need speed/athletic dudes to defend...kurt rambis said a couple months a go that almost everyone on this team wants to make an impact on offense not defense

Not getting Baron Davis was smart. If he was a solid PG that could actually stay healthy I really believe he would be the best PG in the league, but he's too injury prone.

Not getting Artest also turned out to be a smart movie. That guy can't stay out of trouble for shiet!

I love Gerald Wallace but he's as injury prone as Baron Davis.

Other than that I agree. It does sound like next season we will come back with this same team  :-[
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 30, 2007, 10:27:57 AM
Why the hell would you want to get rid of Walton? He's a stand out player. Vlad Rad is the one that needs to go. One PG is all this team needs.
One PG is ALL we need ? I disagree on that, regarding the fact we'll not acquire a top 5 PG... there is no consistent down low on this team.. are you aware our game is 95% on the perimeter? jacking up 3s .. we even shot more 3s than the Suns yesterday ..

Are you aware that Kwame has been out more than half the season and is still playing on some battered ankles? Are you aware that Chris Mihm was out for the whole season? Are you aware that Bynum is quickly developing? You guys need to calm down. We had a good chance at winning 2 out of 3 games that we lost to the Suns in this series. If Lakers woulda' won yesterday, none of you would be saying this, and that's what I hate about ya'll...We were a missed call away from making a strong comeback on several occions. I was at the game. Every time the Lakers made a run and the momentum was shifting, the refs sucked the energy right out of the arena. The turning point for me was when the Lakers were making that strong run and Kwame had an And-1 to cut it to 8, I believe, but the refs called it a charge, Lakers got down on themselves, Suns ran back and hit a 3, and there's your 5 point switch+the game...Not saying the refs are the whole reason we lost, but if we woulda' won (and we had a chance), NONE of you would be bitching this much...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 30, 2007, 10:28:20 AM
Kwama, Cook & Mihm are bums they ain't nice. Brown is just not that good.

I like Bynum ALOT, next season I would like to see him get more minutes than Kwame. I also like Turiaf, but I dunno how effective he could be for a winning team.

It was obvious that Phoenix was gonna win this series, but 2 of the games were basically no contest, and I didn't expect that. I thought it was gonna be a series. Lakers need to rid themselves of Smush, Kwame and maybe even Odom. These guys attitudes suck and the Lakers need to put better players around Kobe if they want a shot. Maybe that, or they could beg to move to the East ;D
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 30, 2007, 10:29:17 AM
trade Lamar-Bynum for Jermaine Oneal

:puke:
Man , being a huge fan doesn"t prevent being realistic.. You know as much as me you are going nowhere with this roster.. you stay positive , props for that.. but I'm very frustrated with this situation, we're the Lakers, we can't be satisfied with that.. Lamar and Bynum for Oneal is probably too much but sth has to happened this summer
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 30, 2007, 10:32:36 AM
^^Agreed, O'Neal is not much of a team player, and he's not old, but he's getting there. His teams don't have much playoff success either. If any big men need to be traded, it's Kwame, Mihm, Cook or that moron Radmanovic. Stick with Bynum, he is this team future, and it's the smartest thing to have a young, explosive big man on your squad.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 30, 2007, 10:35:02 AM
Why the hell would you want to get rid of Walton? He's a stand out player. Vlad Rad is the one that needs to go. One PG is all this team needs.
One PG is ALL we need ? I disagree on that, regarding the fact we'll not acquire a top 5 PG... there is no consistent down low on this team.. are you aware our game is 95% on the perimeter? jacking up 3s .. we even shot more 3s than the Suns yesterday ..

Are you aware that Kwame has been out more than half the season and is still playing on some battered ankles? Are you aware that Chris Mihm was out for the whole season? Are you aware that Bynum is quickly developing? You guys need to calm down. We had a good chance at winning 2 out of 3 games that we lost to the Suns in this series. If Lakers woulda' won yesterday, none of you would be saying this, and that's what I hate about ya'll...We were a missed call away from making a strong comeback on several occions. I was at the game. Every time the Lakers made a run and the momentum was shifting, the refs sucked the energy right out of the arena. The turning point for me was when the Lakers were making that strong run and Kwame had an And-1 to cut it to 8, I believe, but the refs called it a charge, Lakers got down on themselves, Suns ran back and hit a 3, and there's your 5 point switch+the game...Not saying the refs are the whole reason we lost, but if we woulda' won (and we had a chance), NONE of you would be bitching this much...PeACe
We had to win game 1 but there is no question about yesterday, Suns outplayed us in the 2nd half.. plus having a shot at winning a game and actually winnning it is a huge difference... Kwame, Mihm can have nice games here and there but 1st they often injured, 2ndly they won't bring this consistency that will bring us to the next level... I'm just realistic and state facts
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 30, 2007, 10:39:44 AM
^^Agreed, O'Neal is not much of a team player, and he's not old, but he's getting there. His teams don't have much playoff success either. If any big men need to be traded, it's Kwame, Mihm, Cook or that moron Radmanovic. Stick with Bynum, he is this team future, and it's the smartest thing to have a young, explosive big man on your squad.
1st yeah Mihm(FA), Cook ect have to be traded 1st but for they won't bring key players in exchange... then please stop arguing with Bynum being the future.. there is a player called Kobe who will turn 29, is on another level , we have to play for Championships now, not in 5 years..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 30, 2007, 10:40:29 AM
Why the hell would you want to get rid of Walton? He's a stand out player. Vlad Rad is the one that needs to go. One PG is all this team needs.
One PG is ALL we need ? I disagree on that, regarding the fact we'll not acquire a top 5 PG... there is no consistent down low on this team.. are you aware our game is 95% on the perimeter? jacking up 3s .. we even shot more 3s than the Suns yesterday ..

Are you aware that Kwame has been out more than half the season and is still playing on some battered ankles? Are you aware that Chris Mihm was out for the whole season? Are you aware that Bynum is quickly developing? You guys need to calm down. We had a good chance at winning 2 out of 3 games that we lost to the Suns in this series. If Lakers woulda' won yesterday, none of you would be saying this, and that's what I hate about ya'll...We were a missed call away from making a strong comeback on several occions. I was at the game. Every time the Lakers made a run and the momentum was shifting, the refs sucked the energy right out of the arena. The turning point for me was when the Lakers were making that strong run and Kwame had an And-1 to cut it to 8, I believe, but the refs called it a charge, Lakers got down on themselves, Suns ran back and hit a 3, and there's your 5 point switch+the game...Not saying the refs are the whole reason we lost, but if we woulda' won (and we had a chance), NONE of you would be bitching this much...PeACe
We had to win game 1 but there is no question about yesterday, Suns outplayed us in the 2nd half.. plus having a shot at winning a game and actually winnning it is a huge difference... Kwame, Mihm can have nice games here and there but 1st they often injured, 2ndly they won't bring this consistency that will bring us to the next level... I'm just realistic and state facts


If Mihm was on our team, we win games 1 and 4. How 'bout that? The thing that makes me mad about some Laker fans is the difference in their attitude when we win and when we lose. It's like night in day. If we won yesterday, everyone would be talking about how much this team is capable of... ::)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 30, 2007, 10:48:29 AM
Why the hell would you want to get rid of Walton? He's a stand out player. Vlad Rad is the one that needs to go. One PG is all this team needs.
One PG is ALL we need ? I disagree on that, regarding the fact we'll not acquire a top 5 PG... there is no consistent down low on this team.. are you aware our game is 95% on the perimeter? jacking up 3s .. we even shot more 3s than the Suns yesterday ..

Are you aware that Kwame has been out more than half the season and is still playing on some battered ankles? Are you aware that Chris Mihm was out for the whole season? Are you aware that Bynum is quickly developing? You guys need to calm down. We had a good chance at winning 2 out of 3 games that we lost to the Suns in this series. If Lakers woulda' won yesterday, none of you would be saying this, and that's what I hate about ya'll...We were a missed call away from making a strong comeback on several occions. I was at the game. Every time the Lakers made a run and the momentum was shifting, the refs sucked the energy right out of the arena. The turning point for me was when the Lakers were making that strong run and Kwame had an And-1 to cut it to 8, I believe, but the refs called it a charge, Lakers got down on themselves, Suns ran back and hit a 3, and there's your 5 point switch+the game...Not saying the refs are the whole reason we lost, but if we woulda' won (and we had a chance), NONE of you would be bitching this much...PeACe
We had to win game 1 but there is no question about yesterday, Suns outplayed us in the 2nd half.. plus having a shot at winning a game and actually winnning it is a huge difference... Kwame, Mihm can have nice games here and there but 1st they often injured, 2ndly they won't bring this consistency that will bring us to the next level... I'm just realistic and state facts


 The thing that makes me mad about some Laker fans is the difference in their attitude when we win and when we lose. It's like night in day.
it's because this team is the same on the court "like night in day".. as for me, I've never said we were going to win it all and then "fuck the lakers" , get ride of "him" ect.. I don't blame the players, most of them hustle to rep the LAL jersey with dignity.. don't get me wrong I like Lamar or Kwame games but I know this roster isn't enough to win a title.. and you know it too
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 30, 2007, 10:49:26 AM
^^Agreed, O'Neal is not much of a team player, and he's not old, but he's getting there. His teams don't have much playoff success either. If any big men need to be traded, it's Kwame, Mihm, Cook or that moron Radmanovic. Stick with Bynum, he is this team future, and it's the smartest thing to have a young, explosive big man on your squad.
1st yeah Mihm(FA), Cook ect have to be traded 1st but for they won't bring key players in exchange... then please stop arguing with Bynum being the future.. there is a player called Kobe who will turn 29, is on another level , we have to play for Championships now, not in 5 years..


You act like Kobe is dying...He's 28 dude. When Kobe hits his 30s, the Kobe-Bynum tandem will be UNSTOPPABLE.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 30, 2007, 10:49:42 AM
^^Agreed, O'Neal is not much of a team player, and he's not old, but he's getting there. His teams don't have much playoff success either. If any big men need to be traded, it's Kwame, Mihm, Cook or that moron Radmanovic. Stick with Bynum, he is this team future, and it's the smartest thing to have a young, explosive big man on your squad.
1st yeah Mihm(FA), Cook ect have to be traded 1st but for they won't bring key players in exchange... then please stop arguing with Bynum being the future.. there is a player called Kobe who will turn 29, is on another level , we have to play for Championships now, not in 5 years..

Damn, Kobe's not even 30 yet :o

But, you don't think Bynum will improve next season? When the Lakers won the championships, Kobe needed Shaq. That low post precense is the most important thing in winning a championship.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 30, 2007, 10:50:40 AM
Why the hell would you want to get rid of Walton? He's a stand out player. Vlad Rad is the one that needs to go. One PG is all this team needs.
One PG is ALL we need ? I disagree on that, regarding the fact we'll not acquire a top 5 PG... there is no consistent down low on this team.. are you aware our game is 95% on the perimeter? jacking up 3s .. we even shot more 3s than the Suns yesterday ..

Are you aware that Kwame has been out more than half the season and is still playing on some battered ankles? Are you aware that Chris Mihm was out for the whole season? Are you aware that Bynum is quickly developing? You guys need to calm down. We had a good chance at winning 2 out of 3 games that we lost to the Suns in this series. If Lakers woulda' won yesterday, none of you would be saying this, and that's what I hate about ya'll...We were a missed call away from making a strong comeback on several occions. I was at the game. Every time the Lakers made a run and the momentum was shifting, the refs sucked the energy right out of the arena. The turning point for me was when the Lakers were making that strong run and Kwame had an And-1 to cut it to 8, I believe, but the refs called it a charge, Lakers got down on themselves, Suns ran back and hit a 3, and there's your 5 point switch+the game...Not saying the refs are the whole reason we lost, but if we woulda' won (and we had a chance), NONE of you would be bitching this much...PeACe
We had to win game 1 but there is no question about yesterday, Suns outplayed us in the 2nd half.. plus having a shot at winning a game and actually winnning it is a huge difference... Kwame, Mihm can have nice games here and there but 1st they often injured, 2ndly they won't bring this consistency that will bring us to the next level... I'm just realistic and state facts


 The thing that makes me mad about some Laker fans is the difference in their attitude when we win and when we lose. It's like night in day.
it's because this team is the same on the court "like night in day".. as for me, I've never said we were going to win it all and then "fuck the lakers" , get ride of "him" ect.. I don't blame the players, most of them hustle to rep the LAL jersey with dignity.. don't get me wrong I like Lamar or Kwame games but I know this roster isn't enough to win a title.. and you know it too


If the Golden State Warriors can advance over the Mavs, the NBA is wide open for the title this season. If we had our shit together, we could have very easily been major contenders, and you know it too...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 30, 2007, 10:59:20 AM
I guess we'll see how things turn in the off season and in the upcoming years.. we have different opinions on the situation of our teamand we will know who was right  ;)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 30, 2007, 11:04:59 AM
So you don't think our team at full strength is capable of beating any team?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on April 30, 2007, 11:10:21 AM
^^^^ of course yes, Golden State, Houston, Utah and Denver.. and the Suns if we're play VERY consistent D through the games.. the pb I repeat is there is no consistency in this team.. all these weak regular season losses during the last 2 years showed it..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: R-Tistic on April 30, 2007, 03:12:59 PM
So you don't think our team at full strength is capable of beating any team?

I think we are "capable" but I'd say that we only "could" beat any team in a series if we were playing at 90%+ every game, just as we did in the first two and a half quarters in Game one, or in game three...or when we were up 3-1 last year.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: teecee on April 30, 2007, 10:54:34 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on May 01, 2007, 10:05:08 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???

Agreed. Some people will say anything to hate, no matter how immature they look saying it.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 01, 2007, 01:10:05 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on May 01, 2007, 01:13:13 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on May 01, 2007, 01:15:46 PM
the lakers will win the next game.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 01, 2007, 02:15:56 PM
the lakers will win the next game.



And then the next game is at Staples, so we can end up seeing a repeat of last year... 8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 01, 2007, 02:20:53 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on May 01, 2007, 03:21:48 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on May 01, 2007, 03:22:33 PM
NIK....... I can't believe you picked the Lakers to win.  The Lakers lost the series last year and the Suns didn't even have Amare Stoudamire then.  I think that if the Mavs get knocked out by Golden State the Suns will win it all.  I predicted that last year, because if they could make it to the Western Confrence Finals without Stoudamire, imagine what they could do with him.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: teecee on May 01, 2007, 03:32:27 PM
I was gonna reply to NIK myself, but you guys pointed out everything i would've said. 

And NIK:  I never said Jordan did it all by himself, i said him and Kobe are really the only players i have seen who can really do it all themself.

However, NIK i find it odd that you have such a problem with how the Suns play, yet you think Kobe jacking up 30-40 shots is great basketball???  The Suns may not win a title with their style, but neither will a team with Kobe as the main option.............the fact that you predicted the Lakers to win is ridiculous.  The Lakers have basically the same team as last year, except the young guys have more experience, and somehow are worse!!!  Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 01, 2007, 05:20:00 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 01, 2007, 05:24:15 PM
NIK....... I can't believe you picked the Lakers to win.  The Lakers lost the series last year and the Suns didn't even have Amare Stoudamire then.  I think that if the Mavs get knocked out by Golden State the Suns will win it all.  I predicted that last year, because if they could make it to the Western Confrence Finals without Stoudamire, imagine what they could do with him.


LOL. The Suns are an overrated team who play no defense and get embarrassed when teams execute real basketball. They're only good when they're hot, and that doesn't last through the playoffs, where every possession is magnified...You'll learn this soon...PeACe

Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 01, 2007, 05:33:01 PM
I was gonna reply to NIK myself, but you guys pointed out everything i would've said. 

And NIK:  I never said Jordan did it all by himself, i said him and Kobe are really the only players i have seen who can really do it all themself.

However, NIK i find it odd that you have such a problem with how the Suns play, yet you think Kobe jacking up 30-40 shots is great basketball???  The Suns may not win a title with their style, but neither will a team with Kobe as the main option.............the fact that you predicted the Lakers to win is ridiculous.  The Lakers have basically the same team as last year, except the young guys have more experience, and somehow are worse!!!  Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......



Then you really don't know shit about the triangle offense...When the Lakers win, they usually win as a team. The problem is, our players don't step up every night, so they don't really fully execute the offense night in and night out, which causes Kobe to resort to the last option-  jacking up shots, tryna bring them back in it. But if you've actually watched the Lakers when they win, you'd understand and appreciate the offense to the fullest. Phil Jackson's playbook >>>>>>>>>> D'Antoni's playbook...I admit Phoenix are great...at regular season success...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on May 01, 2007, 06:09:36 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on May 01, 2007, 11:55:46 PM
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Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......

We have a different taste. The Suns offense imho is not so great like you guys are trying to make it. They are just a team who shoots better than everybody from 3pts and who make a lot of open jumpers with centers too. Very european, nothing special. I don't like team who shoots so much from the outside, they run a lazy offense in my opinion. It's really not that difficult to be Steve Nash in that team: you just run and when you surpass the half court you have at least 4 guys on the perimeter who are ready to receive the ball and to shoot from 3pts. If they aren't, you hesitate a little bit, you loose 2-3 secs, you try a penetration and you find at least 2 guys ready to shoot a jumper. They don't play the type of basketball i love. The inside-out, the type of basketball the Lakers used to play with Shaq, or the Spurs are playing with Duncan. Great defense + inside-out: that's the basketball i love. And that's why the Spurs are the best team in the NBA right now imho. Winter's triangle is also great, but it's harder to be executed. If they execute it well, those Lakers can beat anybody in the League, so you gotta respect Phil's playbook. It's just that the Lakers aren't good enought to win the NBA, that's it. Too young.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Low Key on May 02, 2007, 12:18:35 AM
The Suns have won almost 20 more games than the Lakers. Kinda makes you wonder how people think the Lakers are a better team...

I'm not saying the Lakers are terrible, but honestly, there must be a reason why their records are the way they are. Especially seeing as they are in the same division.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on May 02, 2007, 04:50:07 AM
The Suns have won almost 20 more games than the Lakers. Kinda makes you wonder how people think the Lakers are a better team...

I'm not saying the Lakers are terrible, but honestly, there must be a reason why their records are the way they are. Especially seeing as they are in the same division.

Just like there must be a reason why Nash & Dirk have no rings.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 10:22:11 AM
It's do or die muthafuckaz!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 10:28:06 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think your squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 10:29:33 AM
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Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......

We have a different taste. The Suns offense imho is not so great like you guys are trying to make it. They are just a team who shoots better than everybody from 3pts and who make a lot of open jumpers with centers too. Very european, nothing special. I don't like team who shoots so much from the outside, they run a lazy offense in my opinion. It's really not that difficult to be Steve Nash in that team: you just run and when you surpass the half court you have at least 4 guys on the perimeter who are ready to receive the ball and to shoot from 3pts. If they aren't, you hesitate a little bit, you loose 2-3 secs, you try a penetration and you find at least 2 guys ready to shoot a jumper. They don't play the type of basketball i love. The inside-out, the type of basketball the Lakers used to play with Shaq, or the Spurs are playing with Duncan. Great defense + inside-out: that's the basketball i love. And that's why the Spurs are the best team in the NBA right now imho. Winter's triangle is also great, but it's harder to be executed. If they execute it well, those Lakers can beat anybody in the League, so you gotta respect Phil's playbook. It's just that the Lakers aren't good enought to win the NBA, that's it. Too young.

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Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 10:30:46 AM
The Suns have won almost 20 more games than the Lakers. Kinda makes you wonder how people think the Lakers are a better team...

I'm not saying the Lakers are terrible, but honestly, there must be a reason why their records are the way they are. Especially seeing as they are in the same division.

It's the same reason why we had 47 wins last year and 42 this year, despite having an unquestionably superior tam.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on May 02, 2007, 11:01:27 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think you're squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:

LOL at Nash not being a great player, you just don't get it and you never will. Nash isn't a great defender, but he's not terrible either. Of course many guards give him problems bus he is the best point guard in the league. I wouldn't give 2 fucks about another point guard getting past me when Amare or Marion is there to clean up. And all your predictions have gone wrong, my little friend, your a bad luck charm playa, the series is over.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on May 02, 2007, 11:03:21 AM
Bring back that series to LA .. I hope we gonna fight hard and play with energy on the defensive end0.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on May 02, 2007, 11:19:52 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think you're squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:

LOL at Nash not being a great player, you just don't get it and you never will. Nash isn't a great defender, but he's not terrible either. Of course many guards give him problems bus he is the best point guard in the league. I wouldn't give 2 fucks about another point guard getting past me when Amare or Marion is there to clean up. And all your predictions have gone wrong, my little friend, your a bad luck charm playa, the series is over.

You guys are really killing me with this Nash dickriding shit. He's pretty good, but he's not a superhero!! He averaged 11.6 assists per game this season?

Uh?

Is it that incredible for you to cum in your pants?

Please!!

Magic Johnson (to put them in the same sentence is a blasphemy: sorry Magic) averaged 11.5 fucking assists per game in his whole CAREER. He made more assists per game than Nash did this year in 7 fucking seasons. SEVEN. You read it?

Not to mention the 20 points per game and 7.2 rebounds per game averaged in the CAREER to go with the 11.5 assists. And the fact he led the NBA in steals for two seasons, and he's a 4x NBA Finals MVP, etc...


MAGIC JOHNSON = amazing player, a monster, unreal, Magic, hero, BEST EVER.

STEVE NASH = good offensive player.

Get it.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: teecee on May 02, 2007, 11:47:32 AM
I was gonna reply to NIK myself, but you guys pointed out everything i would've said. 

And NIK:  I never said Jordan did it all by himself, i said him and Kobe are really the only players i have seen who can really do it all themself.

However, NIK i find it odd that you have such a problem with how the Suns play, yet you think Kobe jacking up 30-40 shots is great basketball???  The Suns may not win a title with their style, but neither will a team with Kobe as the main option.............the fact that you predicted the Lakers to win is ridiculous.  The Lakers have basically the same team as last year, except the young guys have more experience, and somehow are worse!!!  Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......



Then you really don't know shit about the triangle offense...When the Lakers win, they usually win as a team. The problem is, our players don't step up every night, so they don't really fully execute the offense night in and night out, which causes Kobe to resort to the last option-  jacking up shots, tryna bring them back in it. But if you've actually watched the Lakers when they win, you'd understand and appreciate the offense to the fullest. Phil Jackson's playbook >>>>>>>>>> D'Antoni's playbook...I admit Phoenix are great...at regular season success...PeACe

To say i don't know shit about the Triangle Offense is funny man.........i was a MASSIVE Bulls fan back in the day.  I actually find the fact that the Lakers call what they run now a Triangle Offense to be dispicable.  When the Lakers win it is the KB24 show.....and i really don't blame Kobe to be honest, he does not have a lot of support, his team sucks besides Lamar and maybe Walton sometime. 
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: teecee on May 02, 2007, 11:49:04 AM
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Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......

We have a different taste. The Suns offense imho is not so great like you guys are trying to make it. They are just a team who shoots better than everybody from 3pts and who make a lot of open jumpers with centers too. Very european, nothing special. I don't like team who shoots so much from the outside, they run a lazy offense in my opinion. It's really not that difficult to be Steve Nash in that team: you just run and when you surpass the half court you have at least 4 guys on the perimeter who are ready to receive the ball and to shoot from 3pts. If they aren't, you hesitate a little bit, you loose 2-3 secs, you try a penetration and you find at least 2 guys ready to shoot a jumper. They don't play the type of basketball i love. The inside-out, the type of basketball the Lakers used to play with Shaq, or the Spurs are playing with Duncan. Great defense + inside-out: that's the basketball i love. And that's why the Spurs are the best team in the NBA right now imho. Winter's triangle is also great, but it's harder to be executed. If they execute it well, those Lakers can beat anybody in the League, so you gotta respect Phil's playbook. It's just that the Lakers aren't good enought to win the NBA, that's it. Too young.

How the fuck is a team that RUNS the floor better than any team since the showtime Lakers LAZY on offense?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: teecee on May 02, 2007, 11:54:07 AM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think you're squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:

LOL at Nash not being a great player, you just don't get it and you never will. Nash isn't a great defender, but he's not terrible either. Of course many guards give him problems bus he is the best point guard in the league. I wouldn't give 2 fucks about another point guard getting past me when Amare or Marion is there to clean up. And all your predictions have gone wrong, my little friend, your a bad luck charm playa, the series is over.

You guys are really killing me with this Nash dickriding shit. He's pretty good, but he's not a superhero!! He averaged 11.6 assists per game this season?

Uh?

Is it that incredible for you to cum in your pants?

Please!!

Magic Johnson (to put them in the same sentence is a blasphemy: sorry Magic) averaged 11.5 fucking assists per game in his whole CAREER. He made more assists per game than Nash did this year in 7 fucking seasons. SEVEN. You read it?

Not to mention the 20 points per game and 7.2 rebounds per game averaged in the CAREER to go with the 11.5 assists. And the fact he led the NBA in steals for two seasons, and he's a 4x NBA Finals MVP, etc...


MAGIC JOHNSON = amazing player, a monster, unreal, Magic, hero, BEST EVER.

STEVE NASH = good offensive player.

Get it.

As for myself, i never said Nash was one of the greatest players of all time.  I said RIGHT NOW he is the best player..........Kobe is second.  Overall, of course Kobe or Magic, etc are better than Nash.  Nash was completely unheralded coming out of College and nowhere near the player he is now.  He never peaked until like 28 (Kobe is only 29 right now!  Unbelievable!!!!)  but Nash's play over the past three years is one of the best three year runs of any player in the history of the game.  The best thing for Kobe is players get smarter as they mature, meaning i still think Kobe's best play is in front of him.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Low Key on May 02, 2007, 12:37:41 PM
The Suns have won almost 20 more games than the Lakers. Kinda makes you wonder how people think the Lakers are a better team...

I'm not saying the Lakers are terrible, but honestly, there must be a reason why their records are the way they are. Especially seeing as they are in the same division.

Just like there must be a reason why Nash & Dirk have no rings.

I could say the same thing about Kobe without Shaq, but seriously...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on May 02, 2007, 12:42:18 PM
The Suns have won almost 20 more games than the Lakers. Kinda makes you wonder how people think the Lakers are a better team...

I'm not saying the Lakers are terrible, but honestly, there must be a reason why their records are the way they are. Especially seeing as they are in the same division.

Just like there must be a reason why Nash & Dirk have no rings.

Get that GSW shit out of your sig bitch.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 01:41:25 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think you're squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:

LOL at Nash not being a great player, you just don't get it and you never will. Nash isn't a great defender, but he's not terrible either. Of course many guards give him problems bus he is the best point guard in the league. I wouldn't give 2 fucks about another point guard getting past me when Amare or Marion is there to clean up. And all your predictions have gone wrong, my little friend, your a bad luck charm playa, the series is over.


I dunno what's funnier, you thinking Nash isn't a terrible defender or you claiming all my predictions have gone wrong. :-X
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 01:47:37 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think you're squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:

LOL at Nash not being a great player, you just don't get it and you never will. Nash isn't a great defender, but he's not terrible either. Of course many guards give him problems bus he is the best point guard in the league. I wouldn't give 2 fucks about another point guard getting past me when Amare or Marion is there to clean up. And all your predictions have gone wrong, my little friend, your a bad luck charm playa, the series is over.

You guys are really killing me with this Nash dickriding shit. He's pretty good, but he's not a superhero!! He averaged 11.6 assists per game this season?

Uh?

Is it that incredible for you to cum in your pants?

Please!!

Magic Johnson (to put them in the same sentence is a blasphemy: sorry Magic) averaged 11.5 fucking assists per game in his whole CAREER. He made more assists per game than Nash did this year in 7 fucking seasons. SEVEN. You read it?

Not to mention the 20 points per game and 7.2 rebounds per game averaged in the CAREER to go with the 11.5 assists. And the fact he led the NBA in steals for two seasons, and he's a 4x NBA Finals MVP, etc...


MAGIC JOHNSON = amazing player, a monster, unreal, Magic, hero, BEST EVER.

STEVE NASH = good offensive player.

Get it.


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Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 01:49:52 PM
I was gonna reply to NIK myself, but you guys pointed out everything i would've said. 

And NIK:  I never said Jordan did it all by himself, i said him and Kobe are really the only players i have seen who can really do it all themself.

However, NIK i find it odd that you have such a problem with how the Suns play, yet you think Kobe jacking up 30-40 shots is great basketball???  The Suns may not win a title with their style, but neither will a team with Kobe as the main option.............the fact that you predicted the Lakers to win is ridiculous.  The Lakers have basically the same team as last year, except the young guys have more experience, and somehow are worse!!!  Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......



Then you really don't know shit about the triangle offense...When the Lakers win, they usually win as a team. The problem is, our players don't step up every night, so they don't really fully execute the offense night in and night out, which causes Kobe to resort to the last option-  jacking up shots, tryna bring them back in it. But if you've actually watched the Lakers when they win, you'd understand and appreciate the offense to the fullest. Phil Jackson's playbook >>>>>>>>>> D'Antoni's playbook...I admit Phoenix are great...at regular season success...PeACe

To say i don't know shit about the Triangle Offense is funny man.........i was a MASSIVE Bulls fan back in the day.  I actually find the fact that the Lakers call what they run now a Triangle Offense to be dispicable.  When the Lakers win it is the KB24 show.....and i really don't blame Kobe to be honest, he does not have a lot of support, his team sucks besides Lamar and maybe Walton sometime. 


Then you haven't watched the Lakers...Cuz when the Lakers win, it's due to a TEAM EFFORT.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 01:54:11 PM
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Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......

We have a different taste. The Suns offense imho is not so great like you guys are trying to make it. They are just a team who shoots better than everybody from 3pts and who make a lot of open jumpers with centers too. Very european, nothing special. I don't like team who shoots so much from the outside, they run a lazy offense in my opinion. It's really not that difficult to be Steve Nash in that team: you just run and when you surpass the half court you have at least 4 guys on the perimeter who are ready to receive the ball and to shoot from 3pts. If they aren't, you hesitate a little bit, you loose 2-3 secs, you try a penetration and you find at least 2 guys ready to shoot a jumper. They don't play the type of basketball i love. The inside-out, the type of basketball the Lakers used to play with Shaq, or the Spurs are playing with Duncan. Great defense + inside-out: that's the basketball i love. And that's why the Spurs are the best team in the NBA right now imho. Winter's triangle is also great, but it's harder to be executed. If they execute it well, those Lakers can beat anybody in the League, so you gotta respect Phil's playbook. It's just that the Lakers aren't good enought to win the NBA, that's it. Too young.

How the fuck is a team that RUNS the floor better than any team since the showtime Lakers LAZY on offense?


To compare the current Suns to the Showtime Lakers is disgraceful and tasteless.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on May 02, 2007, 01:59:08 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think you're squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:

LOL at Nash not being a great player, you just don't get it and you never will. Nash isn't a great defender, but he's not terrible either. Of course many guards give him problems bus he is the best point guard in the league. I wouldn't give 2 fucks about another point guard getting past me when Amare or Marion is there to clean up. And all your predictions have gone wrong, my little friend, your a bad luck charm playa, the series is over.


I dunno what's funnier, you thinking Nash isn't a terrible defender or you claiming all my predictions have gone wrong. :-X

He's not a great defender, I never said he was, but you always gotta try to twist shit up. He would not have the status he does if there were "terrible" parts of his game. Your just simply hating, and how can u of all people call out anybody for dickriding? But it won't matter when Nash leads Phoenix past LA, youll just find a new excuse too make up.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 02:03:41 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think you're squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:

LOL at Nash not being a great player, you just don't get it and you never will. Nash isn't a great defender, but he's not terrible either. Of course many guards give him problems bus he is the best point guard in the league. I wouldn't give 2 fucks about another point guard getting past me when Amare or Marion is there to clean up. And all your predictions have gone wrong, my little friend, your a bad luck charm playa, the series is over.

You guys are really killing me with this Nash dickriding shit. He's pretty good, but he's not a superhero!! He averaged 11.6 assists per game this season?

Uh?

Is it that incredible for you to cum in your pants?

Please!!

Magic Johnson (to put them in the same sentence is a blasphemy: sorry Magic) averaged 11.5 fucking assists per game in his whole CAREER. He made more assists per game than Nash did this year in 7 fucking seasons. SEVEN. You read it?

Not to mention the 20 points per game and 7.2 rebounds per game averaged in the CAREER to go with the 11.5 assists. And the fact he led the NBA in steals for two seasons, and he's a 4x NBA Finals MVP, etc...


MAGIC JOHNSON = amazing player, a monster, unreal, Magic, hero, BEST EVER.

STEVE NASH = good offensive player.

Get it.

As for myself, i never said Nash was one of the greatest players of all time.  I said RIGHT NOW he is the best player..........Kobe is second.  Overall, of course Kobe or Magic, etc are better than Nash.  Nash was completely unheralded coming out of College and nowhere near the player he is now.  He never peaked until like 28 (Kobe is only 29 right now!  Unbelievable!!!!)  but Nash's play over the past three years is one of the best three year runs of any player in the history of the game.  The best thing for Kobe is players get smarter as they mature, meaning i still think Kobe's best play is in front of him.

The point is, Nash ISN'T the best player in the league. He plays one end of the court and would unquestionably be a 2nd option on a team like the Mavs or the Lakers. Dude didn't mysteriously transform from barely an all-star caliber player to a back-to-back MVP over the coarse of an off-season. It was the offense he stepped into that inflated his numbers. This would also explain why many average players get that extra recognition in Phoenix's system and have career years. I mean, take Boris Diaw for example. Without that offense, he is a shitty 3rd string player. Tim Thomas...Dude looked like an all-star because of Phoenix's offense...Just take that into account when you wanna consider who the best player in the game REALLY is...PeACe

PS...Kobe is 28.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 02:05:54 PM
Good win for LA, Phoenix so out of it, and Marion was playing like an idiot. Kobe took it to another level, now his teammates need to get a little more confident. Kwame played better than maybe ever. Sunday is gonna be nuts!

Yeah Phoenix seems like they forget how to play sometimes with a big lead. They lack killer instinct at times. But give all the credit to that Laker D and Kwame and Lamar stepping up HUGE. Can't wait for Game 4.

I'm def a bigger fan of Phoenix's style of play, but props due to LA's defense as well as Kobe going nuts in the 4th. I think Phoenix has that mindset that they can go on a big run at anytime of the game. The team was just not themselves last night, but mostly due to the Lakers play. When Nash is turning  the ball over like he was, the opposition has gotta be doing something right.


You're a fan of regular season success? Cuz Phoenix will NEVER be a playoff team with their fundamentally offending system. It may be fun for the casual fan, but the ones who know the game understand what I'm saying...PeACe

Nik, the "ones who know the game understand" that Kobe can't win by himself and that the Lakers never truly stood a chance in this series.  Kobe is an amazing player, one of the best ever, but you can't watch Nash and tell me he isn't better than Kobe right now.  When the Suns win the title this year, promise us all you will shut the fuck up, or better yet leave this site..........DEAL???


If the Suns win the title, I will shoot myself in the head and/or never watch basketball again.

LMAO@"you can't tell me Nash isn't better than Kobe right now". Nash isn't even the best on his team... ::)

Do you honestly hate the way the Suns play bball??? Personally, i am not a die hard fan of the Suns, but enjoy watching unselfish basketball and fastbreak bball.  Seriously, who is better than Nash on his own team?  Stoudemire is athletically gifted but a lot of his baskets are just so damn easy because of Nash' passing.  And honestly, i know Kobe is the better player than Nash, but i a said RIGHT NOW, and that would be hard to argue tat Kobe has been better than Nash in this series. 
 
Really, these dudes are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT players. If you look at it, the Lakers would be HORRIBLE if they traded Kobe for Nash, but the Suns would be nowhere near as good with Kobe instead of Nash.  Nash can't do it on his own like Kobe (who else can besides Jordan in his prime), but Kobe wouldn't use a supporting cast if he had one like in Phoenix.  The only team that can stop the Suns is S.A., and who really wants them to win? 

Nash has the media on his dick to the point that it is pathetic, but what is also pathetic is other people who refuse to acknowledge how amazing he is as a player.  Bottom line is he is smarter than everyone out on the court every game, never panics, and makes people better.  Who does Kobe make better?  Who really wants to play with Kobe???


I HATE the way Phoenix plays basketball. It's a disgrace to the game. They rely on offense, and that's why they will ALWAYS be a post-season failure. But the thing that gets me the most is that there are teams out there tryna duplicate this style, which could really harm the game as we know it. This is why I say the Suns are terrible for the sport. It may be fun to watch for the casual fan, but that is NOT real basketball. *RUN, RUN, RUN, pass, jack up shot, run back on "defense", flop, hope for a charge, repeat till game over*.... That's not real basketball...Streetball? Okay, but don't try telling me this is how the game is played by professionals. The Suns have a lot of shooters, so jacking up countless shots WILL win them regular season games, but when it comes down to the playoffs, where every possession is magnified, any REAL team united is capable of destroying their "game plans"...People give Nash too much credit for Phoenix's offense. Put ANY top point guard in place of him (Jason Kidd for example), and Phoenix will have the same success, if not greater...


and LMAO@"who wants to play with Kobe". That's funnier than you claiming Jordan did it on his own... :-X

Bullshit, that's Nash's offense, no other guard could run it with the same results. He was successful in Dallas too with that style, even though they didn't win a championship. As for that style of play winning a championship, that has yet to be seen. They have a good chance this year, but San Antonio is a good defensive team, if they hold Phoenix under 100 they will win almost everytime.


You don't think Kidd could run Phoenix's offense? You know why? Because you've been brainwashed by the media...Steve Nash played a completely different offense in Dallas. He was NEVER a "first option" (let alone an MVP caliber player) until he was traded to Phoenix. I refuse to believe Nash magically improved his status from borderline all-star to back-2-back MVP within one off-season, WHILE IN HIS 30'S.... if you put any point guard with a basketball mind in Phoenix's offense, they'd be able to run it. ...I think if Nash and Kidd were traded, NJ wouldn't make the playoffs, and Phoenix would be a contender...PeACe

You come up with some interseting conclusions for having never met me. I may not obsess and lose sleep over basket ball like you do, but I'm certainly not brainwashed by the media. Kidd couldn't run that offense because he is not a big of a scoring threat as Nash is. Nash is still not a 1st option on Phoenix either, he just structures the offense, same as he did in Dallas only with different players ( of course the offense will be different, I think you just said that to say it ) the only reason your having trouble with the fact that Phoenix is a sick team and Nash is an MVP candidate is because you have hate in your blood.

And Nash would have NJ in the playoffs easily, if Carter & Jefferson were too stay. Of course Phoenix would be a good team without Nash, but he is what makes them a contender.


Phoenix is not contending in the playoffs...Lakers are playing shitty and it coulda been 2-2 right now if we woulda' closed out Game 1. Kidd can score, in fact, before Nash met Phoenix's offense, Kidd was a better scorer than Nash his whole career...What does this have to do with "hate in my blood"? MANY people know how overrated Nash is, especially considering he only plays 50% of the game... We will see who was wrong when the Suns fail to reach the finals ONCE AGAIN.

They are a contender, at least they made it past the 2nd round, which is more than u can say for your team. Lakers are playing shitty?, that's how they play. Kidd may have had more points than Nash before Nash came to Phoenix because 1) he was a star player 2) Nash didn't play the minutes Kidd did 3) Kidd has been playing longer than Nash so of course he will have more points. If Nash isn't a good scorer, why can't the Lakers stop him? Know what, don't even answer because your never gonna be right about this.

I never said Phoenxi will reach the finals, but they will contend, they are now. Your just butthurt that they beat the Lakers imo. And some advice for ya little guy, maybe you should stop making guarentees about basketball, because you are wrong damn near everytime. I think your squad lost because you predicted they will win.


It's not my fault you have trouble comprehending what I'm saying. Where did I say Nash isn't a good scorer? Nash is an EXCELLENT offensive weapon. He just sucks on the other end of the court, which balances him out and stops him from being a GREAT player overall. As for my guarantees, I've been pretty damn accurate for the most part with my predictions on this board. And the Lakers series isn't over, so stop saying dumb shit. LOL@"I think you're squad lost because you thought they'd win" :laugh:

LOL at Nash not being a great player, you just don't get it and you never will. Nash isn't a great defender, but he's not terrible either. Of course many guards give him problems bus he is the best point guard in the league. I wouldn't give 2 fucks about another point guard getting past me when Amare or Marion is there to clean up. And all your predictions have gone wrong, my little friend, your a bad luck charm playa, the series is over.


I dunno what's funnier, you thinking Nash isn't a terrible defender or you claiming all my predictions have gone wrong. :-X

He's not a great defender, I never said he was, but you always gotta try to twist shit up. He would not have the status he does if there were "terrible" parts of his game. Your just simply hating, and how can u of all people call out anybody for dickriding? But it won't matter when Nash leads Phoenix past LA, youll just find a new excuse too make up.


When did I say ANYTHING about dickriding? Are you fucking retarded, dude? EVERYONE knows Nash plays terrible defense. There is no one who denies this, besides you. This makes me question whether you really follow the game or not. ANY opposing point guard can blow by Nash at will- this is a KNOWN FACT. Get your facts straight, THEN respond. Thank you.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on May 02, 2007, 02:59:58 PM
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Phoenix, on the other hand, has a much improved Barbosa, and Stoudemire, an actual interior presence.  People that like the SUns style of play are not all brainwashed, quite the contrary.  You talk about the team who jacks up the most shots will win some games, but the Suns don't just jack up shots, they lead the  league in every single shooting category, and play UNSELFISH basketball.  That's where you and i differ.  I would rather watch unselfish, team basketball, you would rather watch your boy mancrush do it all himself.......

We have a different taste. The Suns offense imho is not so great like you guys are trying to make it. They are just a team who shoots better than everybody from 3pts and who make a lot of open jumpers with centers too. Very european, nothing special. I don't like team who shoots so much from the outside, they run a lazy offense in my opinion. It's really not that difficult to be Steve Nash in that team: you just run and when you surpass the half court you have at least 4 guys on the perimeter who are ready to receive the ball and to shoot from 3pts. If they aren't, you hesitate a little bit, you loose 2-3 secs, you try a penetration and you find at least 2 guys ready to shoot a jumper. They don't play the type of basketball i love. The inside-out, the type of basketball the Lakers used to play with Shaq, or the Spurs are playing with Duncan. Great defense + inside-out: that's the basketball i love. And that's why the Spurs are the best team in the NBA right now imho. Winter's triangle is also great, but it's harder to be executed. If they execute it well, those Lakers can beat anybody in the League, so you gotta respect Phil's playbook. It's just that the Lakers aren't good enought to win the NBA, that's it. Too young.

How the fuck is a team that RUNS the floor better than any team since the showtime Lakers LAZY on offense?

To compare the current Suns to the Showtime Lakers is disgraceful and tasteless.

1) I know it's harder to get it, but to play with great defence plus the inside-out or the triangle is hella harder than to have no defence and to play the european type of basketball the Suns are playing. They basically have 4 players on the perimeter ready to make jumpers, and a good playmaker sharing them the ball. It's not that hard, you can do it with 4 friends of yours in the gym easly. That's what i mean. Then obviously the difference is that the Suns is the #1 in the NBA in 3pt percentage. But i mean put Garbahosa and Bargani (to name two european players i know very well) instead of Marion and Diaw and the offence will be even better, imho. It's all about shooting well. That's it. Lazy.

2) Don't compare this type of offence with the run&gun, man. Magic was God, and he CREATED basketball with his incredible vision and skills. Lakers didn't have 4 player on the perimeter, man. They had 4 players running and dunking all over the opponents, plus 1 or 2 good shooters who where ready for jumpers when Kareem was doubled.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on May 02, 2007, 03:01:22 PM
The Suns have won almost 20 more games than the Lakers. Kinda makes you wonder how people think the Lakers are a better team...

I'm not saying the Lakers are terrible, but honestly, there must be a reason why their records are the way they are. Especially seeing as they are in the same division.

Just like there must be a reason why Nash & Dirk have no rings.

Get that GSW shit out of your sig bitch.

I can put an italian flag instead of it. With the World Cup. But no, i'm a good man. I'll stay with the GSW logo, since it's giving them good luck.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on May 02, 2007, 03:05:26 PM
The point is, Nash ISN'T the best player in the league. He plays one end of the court and would unquestionably be a 2nd option on a team like the Mavs or the Lakers. Dude didn't mysteriously transform from barely an all-star caliber player to a back-to-back MVP over the coarse of an off-season. It was the offense he stepped into that inflated his numbers. This would also explain why many average players get that extra recognition in Phoenix's system and have career years. I mean, take Boris Diaw for example. Without that offense, he is a shitty 3rd string player. Tim Thomas...Dude looked like an all-star because of Phoenix's offense...Just take that into account when you wanna consider who the best player in the game REALLY is...PeACe

PS...Kobe is 28.

Diaw is one of the most overrated players in history. Dude can't play. I'd take Kurt Thomas over him no doubt, and even Oberto. Two great defenders, players who can really understand the game. Ok, they can't make jumpers, but that's it.

P.S. Diaw averaged 3.5 assists per game. One more than Odom. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeease :puke:
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on May 02, 2007, 03:09:22 PM
The Suns have won almost 20 more games than the Lakers. Kinda makes you wonder how people think the Lakers are a better team...

I'm not saying the Lakers are terrible, but honestly, there must be a reason why their records are the way they are. Especially seeing as they are in the same division.

Just like there must be a reason why Nash & Dirk have no rings.

Get that GSW shit out of your sig bitch.

I can put an italian flag instead of it. With the World Cup. But no, i'm a good man. I'll stay with the GSW logo, since it's giving them good luck.


-1

Bandwaggon Faggot.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on May 02, 2007, 03:40:14 PM
The Suns have won almost 20 more games than the Lakers. Kinda makes you wonder how people think the Lakers are a better team...

I'm not saying the Lakers are terrible, but honestly, there must be a reason why their records are the way they are. Especially seeing as they are in the same division.

Just like there must be a reason why Nash & Dirk have no rings.

Get that GSW shit out of your sig bitch.

I can put an italian flag instead of it. With the World Cup. But no, i'm a good man. I'll stay with the GSW logo, since it's giving them good luck.

-1

Bandwaggon Faggot.

No way. I used it before the two teams faced each others, and you can see in the topic about game-1 that i supported the Warriors before the game too, wishing them good luck.

It just happens that you support teams of loosers, man. Don't trip.  ;D
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on May 02, 2007, 04:33:06 PM
I support teams of losers? Guess we have something in common afterall, motherfucker.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: WestCoasta on May 02, 2007, 04:34:47 PM
fuckin Lakers are gay, give Kobe some goddamn help you losers
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 04:38:08 PM
I support teams of losers? Guess we have something in common afterall, motherfucker.

LOL@Lakers being a losing franchise. :-X
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on May 02, 2007, 05:21:08 PM
No reason to get involved.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 02, 2007, 07:35:11 PM
This is it: do or die. Win or go home!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on May 02, 2007, 08:07:06 PM
i took the suns -10.5
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Sparegeez on May 02, 2007, 08:35:49 PM
i took the suns -10.5

holy shit that's the spread?! LOL
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Bay Area Jat on May 02, 2007, 08:50:07 PM
^^ usually dont bet on emotions but 2nites personal.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 08:54:52 PM
Way to slow down the pace... :-X


Phil better have something in store for the 2nd half season.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: hisairness on May 02, 2007, 09:16:26 PM
What's going to be the excuses for getting knocked out of the playoffs?

A) Kobe couldn't do it by himself
B) Kobe tries to trust his teammates, but they suck
C) NIK hasn't been swallowing enough to satisfy Kobe

Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: rik on May 02, 2007, 10:26:12 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Tha G In Deee on May 02, 2007, 10:27:11 PM
:'(
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 02, 2007, 10:28:50 PM
The better team won - I'll admit that. Now that we lost to them 2 years in a row, Mitch needs to go get us someone (Billups) to get us over the hump. On a brighter note, good to see Kobe and Odom both score 30 in the same game...actually its great to see Odom score 30 period.

Ps: not to sound like a crybaby but those officials were hella gay. Kobe gets slapped and handchecked - no foul. Lakers stand on the same court as the Suns - foul!

Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on May 02, 2007, 10:34:05 PM
Kobe played like shit when Lamar had a great game.. what can I say ? Phoenix was the better team and we need some major changes, if not it will be another early exit next year.. very frustrating to be a Lakers fan these latest 3 years but hopefully better days are (should) comin  8)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 10:41:08 PM
Ps: not to sound like a crybaby but those officials were hella gay. Kobe gets slapped and handchecked - no foul. Lakers stand on the same court as the Suns - foul!


Seriously though...:grumpy:


But I have to admit, Phoenix is just way more together as a TEAM. You can tell those dudes are tight with eachother by the way they play. Not saying I like their style in a basketball sense, but they run their offense very freely...Sure, the Lakers might need a slight upgrade in talent, but what we truly need is some extra passion and unity out there on the court...Luke should be coming off the bench as a sixth man. The point guard situation should be addressed. And if Bynum isn't ready by next season (which I assume he will be), re-sign Mihm...This was a tough season for Laker fans, but what can we say? The best is yet to come...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Low Key on May 02, 2007, 10:42:22 PM
Damn, the Lakers only got 7 assists.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on May 02, 2007, 10:46:15 PM
Brand. The 2 would have made a killer combo. Stupid Clippers.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 10:50:46 PM
Damn, the Lakers only got 7 assists.


That's what I mean...the Lakers had no sort of rythym as a team ever since the inury bug started biting. I was hoping we'd step out of it by some point, but we simply couldn't. I think we're one or two moves from playing the way we did to start the season for 82+post season. Also, lets not forget Radman. He was supposed to be our major off-season acquisition and didn't even make the playoff roster...I hope he prepares himself to come out killing against all odds next season...

PG ???...Jordan Farmar...???
SG Kobe Bryant...Smush Parker/Sasha Vujacic
SF Vladimir Radmanovic...Luke Walton/Maurice Evans
PF Lamar Odom...Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C Andrew Bynum...Kwame Brown/Chris Mihm


Address that point guard spot, and unity is all we need to contend...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 10:51:31 PM
Brand. The 2 would have made a killer combo. Stupid Clippers.


LOL. Wrong thread...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: teecee on May 02, 2007, 10:52:04 PM
Damn, the Lakers only got 7 assists.

Exactly.  7 assists for the Lakers, 23 assists for the Suns, yet SOMEONE earlier in the thread said the Suns are ruining basketball!!!  Unbelievable!  

4 playoff wins for the Lakers in three seasons is not good, they need to sign someone NOW.  But really, who can co-exist with Kobe for a whole season?  FInding players to compliment Kobe is like finding someone to play with AI- easier said then done.  What i think will happen is Kobe is going to become a much more unselfish player/person in the next couple of years, and only then (with a real supporting cast) will the Lakers have a chance at a title.  Kobe doesn't need Shaq, but he needs a much better team, and then he needs to actually play as a part of that team.

But seriously, the Suns are going  to be in TOUGH against the Spurs, who are truly a great playoff team.  Definitely an interesting series though, a GREAT offensive team versus a GREAT defensive team.  

And damn, Stoudemire was incredible this series!  Him versus Duncan will be a great matchup, as will Parker versus Nash ( i remember Parker killing Nash a couple of games last time........Nash will have to step up his defense......)
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 10:54:51 PM
Damn, the Lakers only got 7 assists.

Exactly.  7 assists for the Lakers, 23 assists for the Suns, yet SOMEONE earlier in the thread said the Suns are ruining basketball!!!  Unbelievable! 

4 playoff wins for the Lakers in three seasons is not good, they need to sign someone NOW.  But really, who can co-exist with Kobe for a whole season?  FInding players to compliment Kobe is like finding someone to play with AI- easier said then done.  What i think will happen is Kobe is going to become a much more unselfish player/person in the next couple of years, and only then (with a real supporting cast) will the Lakers have a chance at a title.  Kobe doesn't need Shaq, but he needs a much better team, and then he needs to actually play as a part of that team.

But seriously, the Suns are going  to be in TOUGH against the Spurs, who are truly a great playoff team.  Definitely an interesting series though, a GREAT offensive team versus a GREAT defensive team. 

And damn, Stoudemire was incredible this series!  Him versus Duncan will be a great matchup, as will Parker versus Nash ( i remember Parker killing Nash a couple of games last time........Nash will have to step up his defense......)



If only you knew how many players are dying to have the chance of playing with Kobe.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on May 02, 2007, 10:59:43 PM
Damn, the Lakers only got 7 assists.


That's what I mean...the Lakers had no sort of rythym as a team ever since the inury bug started biting. I was hoping we'd step out of it by some point, but we simply couldn't. I think we're one or two moves from playing the way we did to start the season for 82+post season. Also, lets not forget Radman. He was supposed to be our major off-season acquisition and didn't even make the playoff roster...I hope he prepares himself to come out killing against all odds next season...

PG ???...Jordan Farmar...???
SG Kobe Bryant...Smush Parker/Sasha Vujacic
SF Vladimir Radmanovic...Luke Walton/Maurice Evans
PF Lamar Odom...Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C Andrew Bynum...Kwame Brown/Chris Mihm


Address that point guard spot, and unity is all we need to contend...PeACe
Vlad as a starter ? naw forget about it.. dude plays lil D and hasn"t a very high IQ of B-Ball which is needed for the triangle.. anyways he shouldn't be oin that team anymore til the snowboard incident...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 11:05:42 PM
Damn, the Lakers only got 7 assists.


That's what I mean...the Lakers had no sort of rythym as a team ever since the inury bug started biting. I was hoping we'd step out of it by some point, but we simply couldn't. I think we're one or two moves from playing the way we did to start the season for 82+post season. Also, lets not forget Radman. He was supposed to be our major off-season acquisition and didn't even make the playoff roster...I hope he prepares himself to come out killing against all odds next season...

PG ???...Jordan Farmar...???
SG Kobe Bryant...Smush Parker/Sasha Vujacic
SF Vladimir Radmanovic...Luke Walton/Maurice Evans
PF Lamar Odom...Ronny Turiaf/Brian Cook
C Andrew Bynum...Kwame Brown/Chris Mihm


Address that point guard spot, and unity is all we need to contend...PeACe
Vlad as a starter ? naw forget about it.. dude plays lil D and hasn"t a very high IQ of B-Ball which is needed for the triangle.. anyways he shouldn't be oin that team anymore til the snowboard incident...


I think he'll be very hungry to prove something...Don't forget, the hand injury really limited him this season. He'll have a chance for that to finally heal, and to come out killing...He's easily a better player than Luke when both are playing to full potential. I have high hopes for his conditioning this summer, just because he knows he has to prove he wasn't as much of a fluke as it seemed...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on May 02, 2007, 11:13:06 PM
Better team won, hope they beat SA as well.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on May 02, 2007, 11:20:23 PM
^^^^ SAS will beat the Suns WITHOUT a doubt
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 02, 2007, 11:26:10 PM
^^^^ SAS will beat the Suns WITHOUT a doubt


Agreed.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on May 02, 2007, 11:28:07 PM
KOBE words at the Press Conf : "Do something and do it now... it's very frustrating.. 3 years and still being at ground zero"..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Tha G In Deee on May 02, 2007, 11:31:51 PM
KOBE words at the Press Conf : "Do something and do it now... it's very frustrating.. 3 years and still being at ground zero"..
:o

Kupchak, Jim Buss, Dr. Buss, & the rest of the F.O., are y'all listening to him!?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: teecee on May 02, 2007, 11:38:08 PM
^^^^ SAS will beat the Suns WITHOUT a doubt


Agreed.

Are you two guys the same guys who thought the Lakers actually had a chance against the Suns?  While i acknowledge the Spurs are the favourite, surely you must know that the Suns have a far better chance of beating the Spurs than the Lakers did of beating the SUns.....
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on May 03, 2007, 12:23:27 AM
Brand. The 2 would have made a killer combo. Stupid Clippers.


LOL. Wrong thread...
Ain't that a bitch.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 03, 2007, 12:23:38 AM
^^^^ SAS will beat the Suns WITHOUT a doubt


Agreed.

Are you two guys the same guys who thought the Lakers actually had a chance against the Suns?  While i acknowledge the Spurs are the favourite, surely you must know that the Suns have a far better chance of beating the Spurs than the Lakers did of beating the SUns.....


No way...I believed Lakers had a chance if they could find unity on the court, which they didn't. Suns will unquestionably lose to an experienced team who can execute real basketball...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Antonio_ on May 03, 2007, 01:54:28 AM
Damn, the Lakers only got 7 assists.

Exactly.  7 assists for the Lakers, 23 assists for the Suns, yet SOMEONE earlier in the thread said the Suns are ruining basketball!!!  Unbelievable!

I wrote imho they run a lazy offence, and i explained you why. I never said they're ruining basketball, cause they aren't. Not at all. D'Antoni's playbook is lazy imho, but it is very spectacular. I just prefeer Popovic's and Jackson's playbooks more, but it's about me. If teams execute their playbooks to perfection, there's nothing who can match the show offered by them (see: the Bulls, the Lakers with Shaq, the Spurs with Duncan, etc..). It's all about exectution. The Lakers failed. That's it.

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But seriously, the Suns are going  to be in TOUGH against the Spurs, who are truly a great playoff team.  Definitely an interesting series though, a GREAT offensive team versus a GREAT defensive team. 

And damn, Stoudemire was incredible this series!  Him versus Duncan will be a great matchup, as will Parker versus Nash ( i remember Parker killing Nash a couple of games last time........Nash will have to step up his defense......)

I think Oberto will match Amare. He's a great defender. And Elson will spend some fouls on him too. But Oberto is the key. On the other side, the key will be Kurt Thomas defending on Duncan. Two great defenders. They'll be the key.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Don Jacob on May 03, 2007, 02:22:39 AM
tis been five years now since last championshiip in LA....no good, no good at all!
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Maestro Minded on May 03, 2007, 02:39:08 AM
LA's era left with shaq... and it aint coming back for a wghile...
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on May 03, 2007, 02:49:45 AM
If Lakers are still at this point when Kobe is 30, that nigga be gone as fuck...

That being said I think Billups would be a huge upgrade to the Lakers. That's a skilled, strong veteran PG who knows what it's like to win a ring.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on May 03, 2007, 09:11:02 AM
www.helpkobe.com lol let the movement begin  ;D..
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: 7even on May 03, 2007, 09:55:09 AM
LOOOL^

He just wasn't subtle enough at that press conference.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on May 03, 2007, 10:04:21 AM
tis been five years now since last championshiip in LA....no good, no good at all!
A drought by Laker standards.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on May 03, 2007, 10:07:49 AM
That being said I think Billups would be a huge upgrade to the Lakers. That's a skilled, strong veteran PG who knows what it's like to win a ring.
Billups would automatically make the Lakers one of the elite teams in the NBA. He can run the floor and control the offense so Kobe doesn't have to. Plus he could teach Farmar a load of skills. 8) I'd take him over KG or J. O'Neal.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on May 03, 2007, 10:14:02 AM
^^^^ yeah.. though he ain't comin in LA... I think we have some chances to have a very good PF but we ain't gonna improve the point guard that much.. I mean it won't make a huge difference.. we ain't gettin a Tony Parker, a Billups or these type of PG calibers (there's little anyway).. we fucked it up big with Kidd that's all I have to say
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: bigo8160 on May 03, 2007, 10:50:06 AM
anyone know a where i can see a list of all the free agents after this season?
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: floatin_above_everything on May 03, 2007, 12:29:48 PM
^^^^ SAS will beat the Suns WITHOUT a doubt

Still hope Phoenix wins.
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on May 03, 2007, 01:09:22 PM
^^^^ yeah.. though he ain't comin in LA... I think we have some chances to have a very good PF but we ain't gonna improve the point guard that much.. I mean it won't make a huge difference.. we ain't gettin a Tony Parker, a Billups or these type of PG calibers (there's little anyway).. we fucked it up big with Kidd that's all I have to say


They wanted Bynum for Kidd, and that was :nawty:


Someone like Charlie Bell or Mo Williams would do...Maybe even sign PJ Brown or someone to a minimum deal. I like the idea of building on what you have better than reconstructing.

There's available help out there-
Some more available PGs:
Jason Hart
Steve Blake
Devin Brown
Derek Anderson
Darrell Armstrong
etc.
Some more available bigs:
Jamaal Magloire
Anderson Vareajo
Melvin Ely
Mikki Moore
Chris Webber
etc.

So remember...we still have the vet min and MLE to spend. A couple of those players could REALLY help us out...And if that's not enough, trade role players (Kwame, Radman, Cook, Smush, Sasha, etc)...Just don't fuck with the untouchables (Bynum, Odom, Kobe)...PeACe
Title: Re: 2007 Playoffs ~Los Angeles Lakers (42-40) vs Phoenix Suns (61-21)~ Round 1.
Post by: wcsoldier on May 03, 2007, 01:46:23 PM
^^^^ I agree with the fact at worst we add one of these "role" players you mentionned.. but you know , we need a big impact player to get it to the next level.. since it's very unlikely we'll acquire a great PG , we HAVE to go at a J.Oneal or KG or Gasol type of player.. plus some solid vets/role players..