he said it on his streets is a mutha album back in 99 on the song called Calling out names.  but now he takes it in the ass along wit everyone else at death row and does whatever suge says.  so suge says be cool wit murder inc, you goddamn right kurupt is gonna be cool wit them whether he likes it or not, and same shit goes for crooked I and all them.  You think Crook really wants to rap alongside Ja Rule?  Hell no, I don't give a shit what he says in interviews, he is lying.  Crooked I got mad talent, and game recognize game, he know ja rule sucks, it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

he said it on his streets is a mutha album back in 99 on the song called Calling out names.  but now he takes it in the ass along wit everyone else at death row and does whatever suge says.  so suge says be cool wit murder inc, you goddamn right kurupt is gonna be cool wit them whether he likes it or not, and same shit goes for crooked I and all them.  You think Crook really wants to rap alongside Ja Rule?  Hell no, I don't give a shit what he says in interviews, he is lying.  Crooked I got mad talent, and game recognize game, he know ja rule sucks, it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

You are right. But is it like that just with Suge? Or with every CEO in general? That's the question. I mean is it different with Snoop? Or Daz? Or all them others? Can you say NO?

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You are right. But is it like that just with Suge? Or with every CEO in general? That's the question. I mean is it different with Snoop? Or Daz? Or all them others? Can you say NO?

well just about every ex inmate has negative things to say about suge.  I haven't heard any doggystyle artists complain about snoop (besides the eastsidaz not gettin their money, but at least snoop doesn't force them to collab wit other rappers), snoop had nothing bad to say about master P, no one complains about dre, puffy's artists are happy, I could list more and more but I think u can get the point.

Puffy's artists are so happy they'll even go to jail for him.

how do you know Suge is forcing rappers to collabo.  I know this may sound shocking, but Crooked I, Eastwood, etc. might ACTUALLY WANT TO COLLAB wit Murder Inc.  Hey, if they appear on a Murder Inc. project, they get paid for writing a verse.  And that's the moral of this story, money makes the world go round...

but back to the topic, Kurupt is coo with Ja Rule, I'm surprised he performs that song in concerts considering he's coo with everyone he dissed back then.  It's like DJ Quik still performing "Dollaz and Sense" now when his beef with Eiht is long over.

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You are right. But is it like that just with Suge? Or with every CEO in general? That's the question. I mean is it different with Snoop? Or Daz? Or all them others? Can you say NO?

well just about every ex inmate has negative things to say about suge.  I haven't heard any doggystyle artists complain about snoop (besides the eastsidaz not gettin their money, but at least snoop doesn't force them to collab wit other rappers), snoop had nothing bad to say about master P, no one complains about dre, puffy's artists are happy, I could list more and more but I think u can get the point.

It's not exactly true that every ex inmate has negative things to say about Suge. I think Damon X doesnt really hate him, does he? Plus Kurupt hates him so much that he never talked shit about him, and he's now back on Tha Row. Same with Danny Boy. The Outlawz got nothing against Suge too. It's just Snoop, Daz & Dre, man. And all the rappers down with them.

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how do you know Suge is forcing rappers to collabo.  I know this may sound shocking, but Crooked I, Eastwood, etc. might ACTUALLY WANT TO COLLAB wit Murder Inc.  Hey, if they appear on a Murder Inc. project, they get paid for writing a verse.  And that's the moral of this story, money makes the world go round...

I don't know 100%, your right, but if I had a million dollars I would bet that deep down crooked I and them don't wanna collab wit ja rule.  You listen to rap, do u like ja rule?  Does more than 3% of this forum think ja rule is a good rapper?  Are you really telling me that if suge knight wasn't around that crooked I on his own would go out and do all these collabs with murder inc, especially since 99% of the other rappers would make better collabo's than ja rule and murder inc.  Can you honestly tell me that if crooked I were a free agent, and he had a chance to work with dr. dre and drop an album, that he wouldn't?  (yes I read the dubcnn interview, and I don't believe crooked I)  Even Jayo Felony said he would sign to aftermath and he said prettymuch any rapper that wouldn't is an idiot (and jayo seems like a very big ego'd rapper)

What's wrong with Ja Rule? I mean hold on. I dont like him, that's not the point. I'm in that 97% of the forum that, like you said, actually think he's just an overrated idiot. But if i remember well, Snoop Dogg, a free artist with no CEO's like Suge telling him what to do, did a track with him that was supposed to be in PAID THA COST. Am i wrong? And didnt he work with Puff Daddy too? I remember a video with Snoop, Puff Daddy & Shaq, right? Puff Daddy is even worse than Ja Rule. But still, like Young Kapone said, money makes the world go round, and Snoop worked with them (fucking up Pac's legacy and his own reputation).

This is in no way a diss to Snoop, since i'm cool with Crooked I working with Murder Inc (their collabos are actually good!), so i'm cool with Snoop working with East Coast producers, Ja Rule, Puff Daddy, Mobb Deep, singing rock songs, etc.

MONEY.

What's wrong with Ja Rule? I mean hold on. I dont like him, that's not the point. I'm in that 97% of the forum that, like you said, actually think he's just an overrated idiot. But if i remember well, Snoop Dogg, a free artist with no CEO's like Suge telling him what to do, did a track with him that was supposed to be in PAID THA COST. Am i wrong? And didnt he work with Puff Daddy too? I remember a video with Snoop, Puff Daddy & Shaq, right? Puff Daddy is even worse than Ja Rule. But still, like Young Kapone said, money makes the world go round, and Snoop worked with them (fucking up Pac's legacy and his own reputation).

This is in no way a diss to Snoop, since i'm cool with Crooked I working with Murder Inc (their collabos are actually good!), so i'm cool with Snoop working with East Coast producers, Ja Rule, Puff Daddy, Mobb Deep, singing rock songs, etc.

Snoop also has done a hellova lot more than crooked I.  Snoop has like 7 solo albums out..shit I don't need to tell you what he has done.  Anyways he has waaaaayyyyy more songs than crooked I, and sure he is going to collab wit some wack ass rappers....but as far as we know he only did ONE song wit ja rule (and that is only a rumor, nobody has heard the song), but crook has done waaaayyyyy fewer songs than snoop, and has had like 3 or 4 collabs wit ja rule and murder inc.

I can't believe you guys want to try and defend suge, ja rule, and murder inc on doing good things for rap.  Just fucking look at all the bad things that have happened in rap that suge is somehow related to.  (pac and biggies murder, dpg breakup, snoop and dre break up, unneccesary disses between ex homies, contract screwing, not releasing albums, ruining rappers careers)  whatever I wouldn't mind if suge, ja rule, and murder inc were never heard of again in the rap game.