Dre(now) ruins an artist. First it was Eminem, then Xzibit, 50 Cent and now Game. All these artists used to have a different style, they'd all usually spit ill shit(even 50, though I disliked him then). Eminem used to be one of the illest out, now he just mumbles some random thug shit. Xzibit used to spit about real issues, then out of nowhere he became a gangsta and made two subpar albums. 50 Cent used to actually come with slick lines and was creative, now he's another Ja Rule. All these cats aligned with Dre and now they start spitting garbage(dumbing down for their audience, so what does that say about their audience?).

This is The Game at his best:
Memph Bleek Iz
I'm Lookin'
What Type Of Nigga
All I Know

Now he's changed his voice and flow. Here he was spittin' different shit each time. But, since he's riding for Dre, all he talks about is how gangsta he is. Don't come in here with some hater shit. I got tracks to back up what I say. Truth!

it's to easy to just blame it on dre..
interscope rejected Em's masterpiece "the marshall mathers lp" because an extremely commercial dumped down track wasnt on it. so he had to put the real slim shady on it. that wasnt dre's idea. it's interscope. Em should do a fuckin black album with only sick shit on it. just for the heads. he's got enough money already.
for the others cats at aftermath I understand.. they wanna make their money.. dre gives them the opportunity.

I agree with sev...

1 word:
Jimmy

Hatesrats 2oooIV

(Givin' 2 much credit 2 Dre)
remember who really runs The Math...

I dont agree

Eminem still has some Ill shit on all three of his albums (the ones he made at interscope)...usually the first two singles are commercial poppy...but the rest is tight..Criminal, kill you, amityville, role model, drug ballad..etc

Dre(now) ruins an artist. First it was Eminem, then Xzibit, 50 Cent and now Game. All these artists used to have a different style, they'd all usually spit ill shit(even 50, though I disliked him then). Eminem used to be one of the illest out, now he just mumbles some random thug shit. Xzibit used to spit about real issues, then out of nowhere he became a gangsta and made two subpar albums. 50 Cent used to actually come with slick lines and was creative, now he's another Ja Rule. All these cats aligned with Dre and now they start spitting garbage(dumbing down for their audience, so what does that say about their audience?).

This is The Game at his best:
Memph Bleek Iz
I'm Lookin'
What Type Of Nigga
All I Know

Now he's changed his voice and flow. Here he was spittin' different shit each time. But, since he's riding for Dre, all he talks about is how gangsta he is. Don't come in here with some hater shit. I got tracks to back up what I say. Truth!

LoL, what bull..
Game was talking about being gangsta before he signed with Dre..
Game's flow & delivery is getting better by the minute, OBVIOUSLY working with the big cats made him improve in every aspect, he went from pretty cool amateur-rapper to holding his own on a track with KWELI & Black Thought.
He used to be have the somewhat boring Fabolous flow & delivery, his latest tracks shows that he's ready to go multi-plat.

Eminem used to rap about raping grandmothers, killing wifey, taking drugs etc.
It's only so long that's interesting..   He's not a teen any more.
And over to more mature topics, but still keeping the "Slim Shady" persona for a crazy track or two, + perfecting his flow, breath control & delivery.
After signing with Dre, Em went from "underground crazy cat" to "top 5 rapper ever".

"50 Cent used to actually come with slick lines"
Lmao, he does that all the time.. but you're so sick of him right now that it's funny..
I bet you're not the biggest fan of "G-Unit radio" series either to know..  
50 hasn't changed at all after signing with Dre, he still says what the fuck he wants to say (how dumb it might be), and does wtf he wants to do..
Granted, a few radio singles was kinda "sellout", but after selling 10 million records, he would do the same wether he signed with Dre or with Def Jam..
I doubt it was Dr.Dre's choice or fault that he chose the singles "P.I.M.P." and that r'n'b track with Joe.  

About Xzibit.. Restless is just as good as his first 2 albums..

First I wrote a long bit where I expressed my thoughts on how Dre influenced each of those artists to change. But then I erased it. 'Cause I got this one familiar idea in my head from this thread, and I hate that idea. I really hope that idea is false. But somehow, it often, very often, seems like a fan thinks a certain artist is only cool and dope and all that when they're underground and have to struggle for their livelyhood. But as soon as that artist sees some success and gets some shine in the mainstream, their fans are ready to turn their backs and call those artists fakes and sellouts. Just something I've noticed many times.

Now, it's true that Dre has influenced all those artists to change. But is it all bad? Have the bad influences necessarily come from Dre? I don't think so. I think Eminem has only gotten better and better over time. To say that Dre ruined him or that his style sucks now is, to me, just plain ridiculous. Dre only helped Em be what he is now - one of the best in the game.

Xzibit & 50 - commercialized, true. But Restless was still dope as fuck. So was Get Rich Or Die Trying. We'll see how X's next LP turns out - if it's like Man vs. Machine, then yes, the industry (the industry, NOT Dre!) ruined him. If 50 comes with an album like Get Rich..., then I don't see where the problem is. The G-Unit LP had a bunch of "Ja Rule-ish" tracks yeah, but Dre didn't have a lot to do with that album now did he? He produced two tracks there, and both were exactly what Dre and 50 both do best - some gangsta shit.

But ain't it a bit early to even talk about how The Game has changed? He hasn't released an album under Dre yet, let's just wait for that, shall we? I think it's useless to say somebody's been ruined when they drop a random track here and another there far between from each other. Let's wait for the proper release to see what Dre and Game have REALLY come up with. How many of the recent mixtape tracks have been produced by Dre anyway? We'll see in some time just what has Dre been up to with The Game, but we haven't seen any of it yet, at least I haven't.

First I wrote a long bit where I expressed my thoughts on how Dre influenced each of those artists to change. But then I erased it. 'Cause I got this one familiar idea in my head from this thread, and I hate that idea. I really hope that idea is false. But somehow, it often, very often, seems like a fan thinks a certain artist is only cool and dope and all that when they're underground and have to struggle for their livelyhood. But as soon as that artist sees some success and gets some shine in the mainstream, their fans are ready to turn their backs and call those artists fakes and sellouts. Just something I've noticed many times.

Now, it's true that Dre has influenced all those artists to change. But is it all bad? Have the bad influences necessarily come from Dre? I don't think so. I think Eminem has only gotten better and better over time. To say that Dre ruined him or that his style sucks now is, to me, just plain ridiculous. Dre only helped Em be what he is now - one of the best in the game.

Xzibit & 50 - commercialized, true. But Restless was still dope as fuck. So was Get Rich Or Die Trying. We'll see how X's next LP turns out - if it's like Man vs. Machine, then yes, the industry (the industry, NOT Dre!) ruined him. If 50 comes with an album like Get Rich..., then I don't see where the problem is. The G-Unit LP had a bunch of "Ja Rule-ish" tracks yeah, but Dre didn't have a lot to do with that album now did he? He produced two tracks there, and both were exactly what Dre and 50 both do best - some gangsta shit.

But ain't it a bit early to even talk about how The Game has changed? He hasn't released an album under Dre yet, let's just wait for that, shall we? I think it's useless to say somebody's been ruined when they drop a random track here and another there far between from each other. Let's wait for the proper release to see what Dre and Game have REALLY come up with. How many of the recent mixtape tracks have been produced by Dre anyway? We'll see in some time just what has Dre been up to with The Game, but we haven't seen any of it yet, at least I haven't.

Real talk..
Dre doesn't decide what their artist say on their records, it's more like his artist decides what DRE says on his albums! lol