whats up with the french ?

[coola]

theyre rioting again ! over a bill that will help the country, and the protestors are affecting everyone... buses and trains on strike.. students missing out on exams, theyre postponed to next semester etc...

fucking little shits have nothing better to do than fight and fuck shit up.

[coola]

if i was jeac, i would send out the riot police to sort the kids out.

[wcsoldier]

yep 3rd week I'm at home.... though my exams will be maintained (I'm at college, but in a section who works differently than the usual one....) To sum up , these kids are lazy, haven't arguments against CPE and it's useless to prevent us to go to college, that ain't gonna change shit.... The government is pussy and this stupid youth creates pb herself, you know they always complain about sth , fucking cryers. You know I'm French but let's say FUCK U to these fools.

[Lincoln]

From what I understand, it makes it easier to fire youth workers within a grace period right? That's a good idea! Employers don't want to hire youth because of the risks involved, this takes that risk down. If you're a good worker you shouldn't have to worry I wouldn't think.

[wcsoldier]

you're a good worker you shouldn't have to worry I wouldn't think.

exactly , you get a prop for that.

[coola]

From what I understand, it makes it easier to fire youth workers within a grace period right? That's a good idea! Employers don't want to hire youth because of the risks involved, this takes that risk down. If you're a good worker you shouldn't have to worry I wouldn't think.

yep, the only reason the little bastards are rioting is because theyre wak... thats the only reason, those kids need discipline.

there were flyers handed out in my university, the stupid bitches were for the protests, made me laugh, for starters it wont effect australia, and for seconds they dont even understand the bill...

[virtuoso]

Why do I even bother responding to such teenage bullshit. They are rioting because this strips young people of any employment rights. Within 2 years of their employment, they can dismissed for any reason, without the usual procedures, notice period and monies. It strips them of all job security, they are angered and rightly so, once again a government is spitting all over its people and giving all the power to business.

[Jome]

From what I understand, it makes it easier to fire youth workers within a grace period right? That's a good idea! Employers don't want to hire youth because of the risks involved, this takes that risk down. If you're a good worker you shouldn't have to worry I wouldn't think.

Did you read it properly, or just skim through it ?
They want to strip young people for the same rights "normal" workers got, make it possible to give young people 2 year trial contracts, and if they're not 100% satisfied with them, they can basically fire them for almost any given reason.

Did you know that 20% of all workers between 18 and 25 years in France are unemployed ? (Twice the percentage as the rest of the population)
The new law will raise the percentage of unemployed youths.

[Real American]

This just proves how worthless the French are. That is what happens when you live in a left wing, socialist country. All the restrictions they have on employement are killing their economy. Look at their economic growth rates and unemployment rates compared to the US....the American economy blows their economy out of the water.

The French government has finally woken up and tried to make their economy more modern like the US but unfortunately these French youths don't like it. But in the long run, their government has to make changes in order to become more competitive with the erest of the world. The reason the unemployment rate is so high in France is because no companies want to hire people that the government tells them they won't be able to fire.

[King Tech Quadafi]

This just proves how worthless the French are.

 

[Lincoln]

It's not about stripping rights, it's so that employers will want to take a chance on hiring youth. If I owned a business, you're damn right I wouldn't hire some punk-ass kid because most of them are lazy and once you've hired someone it's hard to get rid of them. However, if there's less risk involved a business is more likely to take a chance on hiring youth and those that are good employees will get a job.

[coola]

From what I understand, it makes it easier to fire youth workers within a grace period right? That's a good idea! Employers don't want to hire youth because of the risks involved, this takes that risk down. If you're a good worker you shouldn't have to worry I wouldn't think.

Did you read it properly, or just skim through it ?
They want to strip young people for the same rights "normal" workers got, make it possible to give young people 2 year trial contracts, and if they're not 100% satisfied with them, they can basically fire them for almost any given reason.

Did you know that 20% of all workers between 18 and 25 years in France are unemployed ? (Twice the percentage as the rest of the population)
The new law will raise the percentage of unemployed youths.

it will INCREASE employment.. think about it !! if the business has no risk to hire youths, they will hire more, it's creating more opportunity for inexperienced kids that look for work...

fuck maybe you should read the bill, and then UNDERSTAND what it's about.

All it's doing is making it more fair for the kids that are willing to work, the slackers that are in the streets are ruining it for everyone !

[Lincoln]

From what I understand, it makes it easier to fire youth workers within a grace period right? That's a good idea! Employers don't want to hire youth because of the risks involved, this takes that risk down. If you're a good worker you shouldn't have to worry I wouldn't think.

Did you read it properly, or just skim through it ?
They want to strip young people for the same rights "normal" workers got, make it possible to give young people 2 year trial contracts, and if they're not 100% satisfied with them, they can basically fire them for almost any given reason.

Did you know that 20% of all workers between 18 and 25 years in France are unemployed ? (Twice the percentage as the rest of the population)
The new law will raise the percentage of unemployed youths.

it will INCREASE employment.. think about it !! if the business has no risk to hire youths, they will hire more, it's creating more opportunity for inexperienced kids that look for work...

fuck maybe you should read the bill, and then UNDERSTAND what it's about.

Exactly, but I doubt it's even worth the effort to some of these people.

Two things socialists hate about capitalism:

1. You have to work.
2. You only get paid what you're worth.

[Jome]

You two got it twisted, how would you like to get lesser rights because you're a couple years younger than the next motherfucka they hire ??
Some other fool gets "You're hired", while you must sign a contract that can get your ass fired for the smallest detail, you gotta live with a uncertain job for 2 years cuz it's only a trial, and you're very likely to get paid less because you're a few years younger.. ? Not because you're a worse worker, or more inefficient, it's just because you're young.

Now, in some professions that's understandable, and in some professions you must work a couple of years to be as good and efficient as a more seasoned colleague, but these professions already have routines in order to deal with apprentices and freshly educated people.
Besides, you could be 30 or 40 and freshly educated for a profession, with exactly the same knowledge as the newly educated 20 year old, but get more rights and better contract because he's older ?? 
That's not right, this will just make it harder for younger people to get work and become established, the bill creates a harder, more unstable and unpredictable job market.

[coola]

You two got it twisted, how would you like to get lesser rights because you're a couple years younger than the next motherfucka they hire ??
Some other fool gets "You're hired", while you must sign a contract that can get your ass fired for the smallest detail, you gotta live with a uncertain job for 2 years cuz it's only a trial, and you're very likely to get paid less because you're a few years younger.. ? Not because you're a worse worker, or more inefficient, it's just because you're young.

Now, in some professions that's understandable, and in some professions you must work a couple of years to be as good and efficient as a more seasoned colleague, but these professions already have routines in order to deal with apprentices and freshly educated people.
Besides, you could be 30 or 40 and freshly educated for a profession, with exactly the same knowledge as the newly educated 20 year old, but get more rights and better contract because he's older ?? 
That's not right, this will just make it harder for younger people to get work and become established, the bill creates a harder, more unstable and unpredictable job market.

n'impote quoi. 

fuck man, you are looking for things to complain about.

older people are more mature, thats a fact, they also work harder, they are experienced in life, unlike young people that like to party hard and be lazy... you should be happy about the bill, but hey, if you are a shitty worker, then yeah ofcourse it would piss you off.

some of you french people mis-interpret the whole "liberty" notion... you got way too much up your ass.

to me it looks like you are just looking for shit to complain about, without fully understanding what is happening and the works of an economy. that is why OLDER people made these decisions, because in general young people have limited and naive understanding.