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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2007, 05:20:17 PM »
Is it sad that those people are resorting to this? Yes.
Justified? Don't know.
Do I understand why? Definitely.
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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2007, 05:21:38 PM »
^So it's rational? You don't know if it's justified?...

...then these people wonder why we have to swat them off our nuts like flies.
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2007, 05:25:49 PM »
^So it's rational? You don't know if it's justified?...

...then these people wonder why we have to swat them off our nuts like flies.

You can't simplify everything down to 1 video on the internet. I said I don't know if it's justified because I'm not in their shoes... who am I to say what's right or not... I made it clear that I obviously don't agree with it, and that I think it's wrong/sad in the first line of my post... and then I made the point that I do however understand WHY they feel the way they do. I tried to make my post as simple as possible, and not get too into things.
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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2007, 05:45:20 PM »
^^Yea, I also understand why they do that, because they're pieces of shit who want their kids to blindly hate Jews, instead of teaching them the real problems. This is why the world is so fucked up, because there are too many irrational people out there who not only fuck up their own lives, but lives of the people around them as well...Sucks.
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2007, 05:55:29 PM »
Let's ignore the creation of Israel to begin with, and its displacing of hundreds of thousands of people, without allowing those people to return to their homes when they still hold the keys to their houses. Let's ignore that for the sake of this argument. Let's just say that Israel taking the land and the Palestinian people being now confined to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip is justified. (However, logical thinking will lead you to reach the conclusion that it's unjustifiable for a group of people to settle a land, push the native population off, create a state, and not allow those natives to return to their homes.) Now... my question is.... why aren't those Palestinians allowed to return to their homes in what is now Israel... yet Israelis are building ILLEGAL settlements in the Palestinian territories? And that's not even the tip of the iceberg. Israel decides to build a barrier, which it has the right to do on the fucking border... not cutting miles and miles into Palestinian territory, stealing more land, stealing more water sources (and if you check a map showing displaying the water aquifers in the West Bank, you'll see that the wall is "coincidentally" built just to wrap around those aquifers)... on top of that, there are a buncha checkpoints making it difficult for Palestinians to live their daily lives within their own land... you got the Israelis bulldozing people's homes, destroying resources like olive trees and other vegetation that most of these people depend on to survive and make a living... I haven't even gotten into the people being directly killed off by the Israeli government... but the statistics speak for themselves. For someone who can't make sense of all this, or who doesn't want to accept these harsh realities because of their own ideologies... maybe this will help:

How come we don't hear about these terrorists?
Israeli settlers planning to blow up bombs in front of a Palestinian girls' school



Why do settlers feel the need to harass Palestinian people and International PEACE activists (let's not forget, this is not even in Israel.. this is in the Palestinian territories in which these Israelis have established illegal settlements and are trying to drive out the Palestinian people, so they can steal the rest of the land.... well at least this answers the question I earlier posed). They don't want people taking pictures or recording their atrocities because they don't want the rest of the world to see the fucked up shit they're doing. Which is also why they decided to BULLDOZE A PEACE ACTIVIST lol... justify that.



"Screw you and your Jesus... we killed Jesus and we're proud.. don't take pictures.. this is my land.. I'm gonna kill you and the Palestinians, God gave me this land, fuck you...etc"




Here's some Israeli children waiting for Palestinian kids on their route to school... they're waiting to harass them... the IDF soldiers just stand a buncha Nazis and watch on... Western peace actvists have to go to Palestine so they can escort children to school... because the Israelis are a little less hesitant to kill random Americans than they're about killing innocent Palestinians... however even that won't stop them at times as the bulldozing of European/American women has shown.


^ there you see peaceful Israeli children, as opposed to those savage Palestinian ones

Here's some more...










There's plenty of more... but you get the point... this is why I said I understand how those Palestinian kids feel... you'd feel the same way if you were stoned everyday when going to school... or if you see bombs dropping all over your neighborhood killing your family members... all because some people decided to settle here and drive you off the land..












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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2007, 06:10:36 PM »
or if you see bombs dropping all over your neighborhood killing your family members...


Trust me bro...You only look at one side...a good portion of my family doesn't even live in Israel due to fear of getting blown up. I've known my share of people who died in bus explosions...WERE SURROUNDED BY MUSLIM COUNTRIES, you've actually brainwashed yourself into believing that we don't suffer their bullshit as well? The difference is in the reasoning behind how we handle situations. They unreasonably try getting their kids to become Jew hating extremists without the kids even knowing SHIT! THE KIDS DONT SEE THE ISRAELIS AS HUMANS FIGHTING FOR SOMETHING, THEYRE MADE TO BELIEVE WERE MONSTERS WHO DESCEND FROM EVIL!! LITERALLY! It's insane and disgusting...And it's part of the reason that people blow themselves up only to see Israeli children burning...If humans in general were rational, none of this would be happening. But I can honestly say that I see less rationality coming from one side than the other... Not to say Israelis don't do their share of fucked up shit, but there's a huge disparity man, anyone can see that...








 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2007, 06:26:42 PM »
or if you see bombs dropping all over your neighborhood killing your family members...

Trust me bro...You only look at one side...a good portion of my family doesn't even live in Israel due to fear of getting blown up. I've known my share of people who died in bus explosions...WERE SURROUNDED BY MUSLIM COUNTRIES, you've actually brainwashed yourself into believing that we don't suffer their bullshit as well? The difference is in the reasoning behind how we handle situations. They unreasonably try getting their kids to become Jew hating extremists without the kids even knowing SHIT! THE KIDS DONT SEE THE ISRAELIS AS HUMANS FIGHTING FOR SOMETHING, THEYRE MADE TO BELIEVE WERE MONSTERS WHO DESCEND FROM EVIL!! LITERALLY! It's insane and disgusting...And it's part of the reason that people blow themselves up only to see Israeli children burning...If humans in general were rational, none of this would be happening. But I can honestly say that I see less rationality coming from one side than the other... Not to say Israelis don't do their share of fucked up shit, but there's a huge disparity man, anyone can see that...

It's not surprising that you didn't/can't answer or refute any of the other points I made in my post, but that's beside the point.

1. I should trust YOU that I only look at one side? LOL I think I'd know better. Anyways, you made your point about how they're pieces of shit, so I just decided to show YOU the other side, which you seem to have overlooked. To have you know, so you don't need to resort to false assumptions, I do see both sides. I know all about the suicide bombings, but you need to realize that's a REACTION to the Israeli government's actions. Is bombing an entire village to the ground any better than a suicide bomber, just because it's carried out by a government, rather than civilians ("terrorists")?

2. Surrounded by Muslim countries... yes you are... what's your point? LOL that European Zionists should have stolen land elsewhere?

3. Yes, I saw your video, and was already aware of the things you mentioned. Did you care to look at the videos I posted to see the peaceful Israeli kids?

4. Since September 29, 2000:

Palestinians killed by Israelis: 4,070
Israelis killed by Palestinians: 1,021

Palestinian children killed by Israelis: 869
Israelis killed by Palestinians: 122

Palestinians injured: 31,296
Israelis injured: 7,633

# of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel: 9,599
# of Israeli prisoners held by Palestinians: ONE

# of Palestinian homes demolished by Israelis: 4,170
# of Israeli homes demolished by Palestinians: ZERO

Over 60 ILLEGAL Israeli settlements have been built on Palestinian land.
How many cases do you think there are of Palestinians stealing Israeli land and building settlements? You guessed it...ZERO

In case you care where the statistics come from...
The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories  (RATIONAL PEOPLE)
http://www.btselem.org/index.asp


I guess you're right...
there's a huge disparity man, anyone can see that...


And that would include you, right?
If humans in general were rational, none of this would be happening. But I can honestly say that I see less rationality coming from one side than the other

I mean, after all... you are rational, aren't you?


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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2007, 02:39:12 AM »
In case you care where the statistics come from...
The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories  (RATIONAL PEOPLE)
http://www.btselem.org/index.asp

Judging from the looks of their website, their intentions seem rational indeed. However, how rational are their sources? After all they're the Israeli Information Center for human rights in the occupied territories, not some independant non-biased source. It's impossible to tell where they got their information from.

LMAO@people tryna justify this. Almost as pathetic as nutriders on WCC.

Trying to justify this? I was only looking after the credibility of your source.
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2007, 03:13:09 AM »
both them bitches deserve to be shot for that shit
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2007, 03:34:27 AM »
It's kinda scary to see how closed minded the people from "the land of liberty" are. Yeah, your spirits are free. It shows. ::)
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2007, 03:40:34 AM »
I am quite outraged
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2007, 04:49:57 AM »
or if you see bombs dropping all over your neighborhood killing your family members...


Trust me bro...You only look at one side...a good portion of my family doesn't even live in Israel due to fear of getting blown up. I've known my share of people who died in bus explosions...WERE SURROUNDED BY MUSLIM COUNTRIES, you've actually brainwashed yourself into believing that we don't suffer their bullshit as well? The difference is in the reasoning behind how we handle situations. They unreasonably try getting their kids to become Jew hating extremists without the kids even knowing SHIT! THE KIDS DONT SEE THE ISRAELIS AS HUMANS FIGHTING FOR SOMETHING, THEYRE MADE TO BELIEVE WERE MONSTERS WHO DESCEND FROM EVIL!! LITERALLY! It's insane and disgusting...And it's part of the reason that people blow themselves up only to see Israeli children burning...If humans in general were rational, none of this would be happening. But I can honestly say that I see less rationality coming from one side than the other... Not to say Israelis don't do their share of fucked up shit, but there's a huge disparity man, anyone can see that...









Its true the israelis have suffered, but have they suffered as much as the palestinians or lebonese? did they bring it all upon themselves? If you bomb a country almost daily for the last 60 years don't you expect people to be a little miffed, when you take away everything from them and force them to live in intollerable conditions you leave them with only one option and that is to fight. Israel could make peace if it wanted to, but the people of israel don't want peace that much is obvious.

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2007, 10:09:03 AM »
Of course that isn't the full story of how future suicide bombers r made. For people to resort to such overwhelming hatred, they need to be immersed in suffering. You impose sufficiently rigid conditions on people for a long enough time period, this is what you gonna get. But that isn't always necessary- sometimes it's enough to read real biased history books like this one (Battleground:Fact and Fantasy in the Holy Land, Samuel Katz):

"The Arabs did, however, play a significant and specific role in one aspect of Palestine's life: They contributed effectively to its devastation "

http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/arabclaims.html
We are all human beings isn't that a good enough reason for peace?
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2007, 10:59:06 AM »
or if you see bombs dropping all over your neighborhood killing your family members...

Trust me bro...You only look at one side...a good portion of my family doesn't even live in Israel due to fear of getting blown up. I've known my share of people who died in bus explosions...WERE SURROUNDED BY MUSLIM COUNTRIES, you've actually brainwashed yourself into believing that we don't suffer their bullshit as well? The difference is in the reasoning behind how we handle situations. They unreasonably try getting their kids to become Jew hating extremists without the kids even knowing SHIT! THE KIDS DONT SEE THE ISRAELIS AS HUMANS FIGHTING FOR SOMETHING, THEYRE MADE TO BELIEVE WERE MONSTERS WHO DESCEND FROM EVIL!! LITERALLY! It's insane and disgusting...And it's part of the reason that people blow themselves up only to see Israeli children burning...If humans in general were rational, none of this would be happening. But I can honestly say that I see less rationality coming from one side than the other... Not to say Israelis don't do their share of fucked up shit, but there's a huge disparity man, anyone can see that...

It's not surprising that you didn't/can't answer or refute any of the other points I made in my post, but that's beside the point.

1. I should trust YOU that I only look at one side? LOL I think I'd know better. Anyways, you made your point about how they're pieces of shit, so I just decided to show YOU the other side, which you seem to have overlooked. To have you know, so you don't need to resort to false assumptions, I do see both sides. I know all about the suicide bombings, but you need to realize that's a REACTION to the Israeli government's actions. Is bombing an entire village to the ground any better than a suicide bomber, just because it's carried out by a government, rather than civilians ("terrorists")?

2. Surrounded by Muslim countries... yes you are... what's your point? LOL that European Zionists should have stolen land elsewhere?

3. Yes, I saw your video, and was already aware of the things you mentioned. Did you care to look at the videos I posted to see the peaceful Israeli kids?

4. Since September 29, 2000:

Palestinians killed by Israelis: 4,070
Israelis killed by Palestinians: 1,021

Palestinian children killed by Israelis: 869
Israelis killed by Palestinians: 122

Palestinians injured: 31,296
Israelis injured: 7,633

# of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel: 9,599
# of Israeli prisoners held by Palestinians: ONE

# of Palestinian homes demolished by Israelis: 4,170
# of Israeli homes demolished by Palestinians: ZERO

Over 60 ILLEGAL Israeli settlements have been built on Palestinian land.
How many cases do you think there are of Palestinians stealing Israeli land and building settlements? You guessed it...ZERO

In case you care where the statistics come from...
The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories  (RATIONAL PEOPLE)
http://www.btselem.org/index.asp


I guess you're right...
there's a huge disparity man, anyone can see that...


And that would include you, right?
If humans in general were rational, none of this would be happening. But I can honestly say that I see less rationality coming from one side than the other

I mean, after all... you are rational, aren't you?






Dude, you're just bringing up a bunch of pointless shit that has nothing to do with the topic at hand...That's why I'm only responding to what we're talking about, and that's the disgusting images we see in the video. I'm not about to get into political discussions, I stopped caring about that shit a long ass time ago when I realized how pointless it was...I know there is damage being caused by both sides, that's not the point. And obviously the damage will be stronger coming from Israel's side, considering they have much more power. Imagine if Arabs had the power Israelis had. Just imagine the world we'd be living in, especially considering the type of shit they tell their children. :-X


Stick to the topic, these are not civil people...I'm not talking about Palestinians or Israelis, I'm talking about the pieces of shit in the video...PeACe
 

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Re: How terrorists are made...Are you disgusted?
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2007, 11:02:40 AM »
And yes, I'm extremely rational... 8)