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The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« on: March 24, 2007, 04:42:05 PM »
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/24/AR2007032400632.html

Iran Ups the Rhetoric on Seized Sailors

By ALI AKBAR DAREINI
The Associated Press
Saturday, March 24, 2007; 4:52 PM

TEHRAN, Iran -- Iran claimed Saturday that 15 British sailors and marines had confessed to entering its waters in an act of "blatant aggression," an escalation of Tehran's rhetoric over the confrontation.

The British Foreign Office summoned Iran's ambassador for the second time in two days, saying an under-secretary had spent more than an hour in "frank and civil" talks demanding the safe return of the sailors and Royal Marines, and seeking assurances about their welfare and access to British consular officials.

 

Commodore Nick Lambert, commander of the Royal Navy frigate HMS Cornwall, speaks aboard his ship Friday March 23, 2007in this image made from television. Iranian naval vessels seized 15 British sailors from HMS Cornwall, who had boarded a merchant ship in Iraqi waters of the Persian Gulf as part of efforts to protect the Iraqi coastline and its oil terminals, U.S. and British officials Friday March 23, 2007. The British government summoned the Iranian ambassador in London and demanded "the immediate and safe return of our people and equipment." The U.S. Navy, which operates off the Iraqi coast along with British forces, said Iran's Revolutionary Guard naval forces were responsible.(AP Photo/AP Television News) (AP)

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Iran's top military official, Gen. Ali Reza Afshar, said the sailors and marines were moved to Tehran and under interrogation "confessed to illegal entry" and an "aggression into the Islamic Republic of Iran's waters." Afshar did not say what would happen to the sailors.

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini accused the British of "violating the sovereign boundaries" of Iran, calling the entry a "blatant aggression."

He accused Britain of trying to cover up the incursion, saying it should "refrain from putting the blame on others."

The U.N. Security Council, meanwhile, unanimously voted to impose new sanctions against Iran for its refusal to stop enriching uranium _ a move intended to show Tehran that defiance over its nuclear program will leave it increasingly isolated.

British opposition lawmakers called on the government not to allow Iran to use the capture of the military personnel as a tool in the nuclear dispute.

"The United Kingdom will not be blackmailed. Iran has a choice: to act responsibly; or face greater isolation," said Menzies Campbell, leader of the opposition Liberal Democrats.

But the British government appeared to be avoiding harsh language in its public statements as it continued to gather information about exactly what had happened and why.

The British sailors had just searched a merchant ship Friday morning when they and their two inflatable boats were intercepted by Iranian vessels near the disputed Shatt al-Arab waterway, U.S. and British officials said. The Iranians surrounded them and escorted them away at gunpoint.

Britain immediately demanded the return of the eight Royal Navy sailors and seven Royal Marines _ at least one of who was a woman _ and denied they had strayed into Iranian waters while searching for smugglers off Iraq's coast.

Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett and the Ministry of Defense said the troops were in Iraqi waters when they were seized.

Iran Ups the Rhetoric on Seized Sailors
Iraq's military commander of the country's territorial waters, Brig. Gen. Hakim Jassim, told AP Television News that Iraqi fishermen had reported that the British boats were "in an area that is out of Iraqi control."

In June 2004, six British marines and two sailors were captured, then paraded blindfolded on Iranian television. They admitted they had entered Iranian waters illegally but were released unharmed after three days.

 

Commodore Nick Lambert, commander of the Royal Navy frigate HMS Cornwall, speaks aboard his ship Friday March 23, 2007in this image made from television. Iranian naval vessels seized 15 British sailors from HMS Cornwall, who had boarded a merchant ship in Iraqi waters of the Persian Gulf as part of efforts to protect the Iraqi coastline and its oil terminals, U.S. and British officials Friday March 23, 2007. The British government summoned the Iranian ambassador in London and demanded "the immediate and safe return of our people and equipment." The U.S. Navy, which operates off the Iraqi coast along with British forces, said Iran's Revolutionary Guard naval forces were responsible.(AP Photo/AP Television News) (AP)

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Iranian hard-liners have already called for the 15 Britons to be held until Iran wins concessions from the West.

Several conservative student groups urged the Iranian government not to release the sailors until five Iranians detained by U.S. forces in Iraq earlier this year are freed and U.N.'s new sanctions against Iran are canceled. Some 500 Iranian students gathered on the shore near where the soldiers were captured, shouting "Death to Britain" and "Death to America," the semiofficial Fars news agency reported.

With tensions already running high, the United States has bolstered its naval forces in the Persian Gulf in a show of strength directed at Iran. There is concern that with so much military hardware in the Gulf, a small incident could escalate dangerously.

Afshar, the Iranian officer, warned the United States would not be able to control the consequences if it attacks Iran.

"The United States and its allies know that if they make any mistake in their calculations ... they will not be able to control the dimensions and limit the duration of a war," Afshar said.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's supreme leader,warned this week that Western countries "must know that the Iranian nation and authorities will use all their capacities to strike enemies that attack."

The Britons were seized in an area where the boundaries of Iraqi and Iranian waters have long been disputed. A 1975 treaty set the center of the Shatt al-Arab _ the 125-mile-long channel known in Iran as the Arvand River _ as the border.

But Saddam Hussein canceled that treaty five years later and invaded Iran, triggering an eight-year war. Virtually all of Iraq's oil is exported through an oil terminal near the mouth of the channel.

Iran and the new Iraqi government have not signed a new treaty on their sovereignty over the waterway.

The seized sailors, from the British frigate HMS Cornwall, are part of a task force that maintains security in Iraqi waters under authority of the U.N. Security Council. Cornwall's commander, Commodore Nick Lambert, said he hoped the detention was a "simple mistake" stemming from the unclear border.

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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2007, 05:00:08 PM »
"Just" captured?  This happened over a day ago.  Someone's a little slow...
 

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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2007, 07:31:24 PM »
If Iran's navy was floating alongside America's coast, in territory that we recognized as being under our jurisdiction, then wouldn't America take the Iranian's captive?  Same thing with Britian.  America and Britian seem to think that Iran doesn't have a right to defend itself.
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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2007, 07:33:09 PM »
If Iran's navy was floating alongside America's coast, in territory that we recognized as being under our jurisdiction, then wouldn't America take the Iranian's captive?  Same thing with Britian.  America and Britian seem to think that Iran doesn't have a right to defend itself.

THat's nice but they were in Iraqi waters.
 

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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2007, 08:05:48 PM »
LOL @ Iraqi waters.

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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2007, 08:17:39 PM »
Well here comes all the Iranians to defend their country.
 

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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2007, 08:38:20 PM »
If Iran's navy was floating alongside America's coast, in territory that we recognized as being under our jurisdiction, then wouldn't America take the Iranian's captive?  Same thing with Britian.  America and Britian seem to think that Iran doesn't have a right to defend itself.
they got tracking equiptment on the boats n they confirmed they didn't stray over this is all just a politcal stunt

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2007, 01:16:58 AM »

THat's nice but they were in Iraqi waters.


From your article it says that that was origionally Iranian waters, that Sadaam fought a war against Iran to try to make it Iraqi waters but number 1, that was an illegitimate war, and number 2, Iraq lost.
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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2007, 01:18:40 AM »
The british admitted they were in iranian waters so its legit.


p.s. they deserved that shit cuz they keep calling the PERSIAN gulf.....Arabian gulf just cuz they ay-rab countries pay them to do that.  Guess now they know what the real name is now.  LOL
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2007, 01:23:08 AM »
24/03/2007 Iran protested on Saturday to Britain after British navy troops violated Iranian territorial waters on the Arvand Roud.
Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad-Ali Hosseini condemned the British navy's "illegal entry" into Iranian territorial waters, the state news agency IRNA said.

Hosseini said the entry was a "suspicious" move and described it a "violation against international rules".

Iran summoned Britain's charge d'affaires in Tehran on Friday to protest the illegal entry of the British sailors into its waters. The British ambassador is in London but will return to Tehran on Saturday.

Fifteen British sailors were seized by Iranian forces Friday morning as they entered Iran's waters on the Arvand Roud.
The semi-official Fars news agency said the 15 sailors and marines were brought to the capital Tehran on Saturday for questioning about what they were doing.

Britain has demanded the immediate safe return of the 15 service personnel, insisting that they were in Iraqi waters at the time of their seizure by the Iranian navy.

"The British troops who are in Iran's hands knew perfectly well that they were in Iranian territorial waters. Their navigation equipment proves it," said an official cited by Fars.

"Besides the explanations of the British sailors, data from the computerized navigation equipment on board the vessels seized shows that they knowingly entered Iranian waters and stayed there," said the official, whom the news agency did not identify.

"Our border guards did their duty," he said, adding that the British navy should "pay more attention to its navigation equipment."

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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2007, 07:44:19 AM »
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one

iraq would just get annexed by iran


That would be a great solution.  If Iran and the majority of Iraqi's are pleased with it, then why shouldn't they do it?
 

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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2007, 08:06:15 AM »
The british admitted they were in iranian waters so its legit.




The British soldiers were forced to say that to protect themselves.
 

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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2007, 09:10:04 AM »
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one

btw, I was going to ask you, so whats the talk in Britian like over this issue, and what do you think they are going to do about it?
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Re: The fucking Iranians just captured 15 British soldiers
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2007, 09:14:39 AM »
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one

btw, I was going to ask you, so whats the talk in Britian like over this issue, and what do you think they are going to do about it?

we're gonna fuck iran up

and they cant do shit about it

the waters have been disputed for decades about whos it is, the iranians aint got no proof, whilst we have sat info that prooves where they were

i keep telling the persians at my work i gotta take them out if my country orders it
 

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2007, 12:32:32 PM »
i tend to believe my own government over the irainian one

btw, I was going to ask you, so whats the talk in Britian like over this issue, and what do you think they are going to do about it?

we're gonna fuck iran up

and they cant do shit about it

the waters have been disputed for decades about whos it is, the iranians aint got no proof, whilst we have sat info that prooves where they were

i keep telling the persians at my work i gotta take them out if my country orders it

You aint gonna do shit

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