2001 is NOT a classic

[Don Jacob]

so much style said we're the only ones who think it's classic, dude your my homie but that another dumb thing you just said apart from the post you made in the dre's musicians post


2001 is classic point blank


and hellrazor your sad, you think that the mo thugs first album and 3 of the bone albums are classics and not 2001...lol ok that's retarted bone has 1 classic and that's e. 1999 eternal

and for the guy who said 2001 was better than the chronic slap yourself...the chronic is the best album ever ...period

back to what so much style said though, every publication hails it as a modern day classic now...MANY rap fans think this album is classic or near classic, an album doesn't stay in the punlic conscience for almost 2 years if theres nothing special about it .you're young nieve so i can't be too ruff on you, if you don't like it that's cool i can live with that i ain't tryin' to force you to like it just becuase it's classic, shit the rollingstones put out a bunch of classics and i can't feel any of them, but don't run around saying ignorant and uneducated shit

in 5 years this album with be a definate classic same with stankonia, people hate on stankonia ALOT on other boards...wtf?, but anyways in 5 years from now people will be saying what i've been saying since the release date of these albums ...they are classics

c'mon when doggystyle came out, so called "real hip hop fans were saying it was pop rap and a novilty...umm it's been 8 years since it was released and it's almost everyones favorite or one of their favorite albums of all time

when ready to die came out it surcomed to ALOT of criticism, east coast heads were not pleased with the gangster themes and funk inspired tracks, not many people were saying it was classic, but shit 7 years from it's release biggie is praised as the best rapper along with 2pac of all time

when almost of all run dmc's albums came out they  were considered fads in the music industry...lol

theres only a handful of albums that have came out in the rap world that has been automatically recieved as classics, i ain't trying to be concieded or anything but i'm good at detecting classics and theres no doubt 2001 is/will be a classic

[ImmortalOne]

so much style said we're the only ones who think it's classic, dude your my homie but that another dumb thing you just said apart from the post you made in the dre's musicians post


2001 is classic point blank


and hellrazor your sad, you think that the mo thugs first album and 3 of the bone albums are classics and not 2001...lol ok that's retarted bone has 1 classic and that's e. 1999 eternal

and for the guy who said 2001 was better than the chronic slap yourself...the chronic is the best album ever ...period

back to what so much style said though, every publication hails it as a modern day classic now...MANY rap fans think this album is classic or near classic, an album doesn't stay in the punlic conscience for almost 2 years if theres nothing special about it .you're young nieve so i can't be too ruff on you, if you don't like it that's cool i can live with that i ain't tryin' to force you to like it just becuase it's classic, shit the rollingstones put out a bunch of classics and i can't feel any of them, but don't run around saying ignorant and uneducated shit

in 5 years this album with be a definate classic same with stankonia, people hate on stankonia ALOT on other boards...wtf?, but anyways in 5 years from now people will be saying what i've been saying since the release date of these albums ...they are classics

c'mon when doggystyle came out, so called "real hip hop fans were saying it was pop rap and a novilty...umm it's been 8 years since it was released and it's almost everyones favorite or one of their favorite albums of all time

when ready to die came out it surcomed to ALOT of criticism, east coast heads were not pleased with the gangster themes and funk inspired tracks, not many people were saying it was classic, but shit 7 years from it's release biggie is praised as the best rapper along with 2pac of all time

when almost of all run dmc's albums came out they  were considered fads in the music industry...lol

theres only a handful of albums that have came out in the rap world that has been automatically recieved as classics, i ain't trying to be concieded or anything but i'm good at detecting classics and theres no doubt 2001 is/will be a classic

Sad?? Bullshit im sad. "Creepin On Ah Come Up", E.1999 Eternal, and Art Of War are ALL better 2001. Especically E.1999 Eternal. The Bone albums were plauged with mediocre guest appearances and filler tracks. Someone in this thread earlier on page said 2001 is a better album than E.1999 Eternal. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! E.1999 Eternal shits all over 2001, and dont even try to argue cuz Ill shut cha down just like MJ.

[Don Jacob]

i can accept you saying e. 1999 is better than 2001, i don't feel that way but i can accept that, but that's REALLY sad you put creepin' and art of war over 2001


since we're being sad here, i guess ludacris' Back for the First time is better than streetz iz a mutha, limp bizkit is  a better band than Black Sabath, swizz beats is a better producer than timbaland....dude this is how you sound

[d_bomb_23]

yes it is yeah stupid brit
start listenen to some white music
like EVERYONE in the UK does
dre is one of tha best

Your stupid but then i cant blame yeah,since you are
UK

[ImmortalOne]

i can accept you saying e. 1999 is better than 2001, i don't feel that way but i can accept that, but that's REALLY sad you put creepin' and art of war over 2001


since we're being sad here, i guess ludacris' Back for the First time is better than streetz iz a mutha, limp bizkit is  a better band than Black Sabath, swizz beats is a better producer than timbaland....dude this is how you sound

I guess you could make a case for Art Of War not being better than 2001 [though I like it better personally], but Creepin On Ah Come Üp is DEFINATLY better than 2001, and I think most people would agree with that. I dont feel 2001 is classic, cuz of the filler songs and alot of the mediocre guest appearances. Creepin and Eternal were both flawless from top to bottom, with no filler cuts and no wack guest appearances. Another reason why they're better, two words:

IMPACT and INFLUENCE.

[Sikotic™]

Yeah, I like Art of War and 2001 both the same but if you look (or hear) at both albums 2001 is clearly the better album

[Don Jacob]

I guess you could make a case for Art Of War not being better than 2001 [though I like it better personally], but Creepin On Ah Come Üp is DEFINATLY better than 2001, and I think most people would agree with that. I dont feel 2001 is classic, cuz of the filler songs and alot of the mediocre guest appearances. Creepin and Eternal were both flawless from top to bottom, with no filler cuts and no wack guest appearances. Another reason why they're better, two words:

IMPACT and INFLUENCE.

what your saying bone has more impact than dre? wigger pleez

and your saying bone is more influencial than dre.....oh what becuase bone opened the gates for nelly


you seriously need to check my defintion of a dickrider post ...seriously

[ImmortalOne]

what your saying bone has more impact than dre? wigger pleez

and your saying bone is more influencial than dre.....oh what becuase bone opened the gates for nelly


you seriously need to check my defintion of a dickrider post ...seriously

Get the fuck off Dre's nuts for a second and read my post more carefully:

I never said Bone was more influential than Dre, I said Creepin and Eternal are more influential albums than 2001 is......Jesus Christ. If you were talking about the Chronic, it would be a different story, but we're not. E.1999 Eternal and Creepin are better albums than 2001, end of discussion.

[Don Jacob]

you can make a reasonable argue ment for e.1999 eternal but your that's gay to say creepin' is better than 2001...oh yeah your the one who needs to jump of a cock here, every other post is about how great bone is/was....dude they are NOT all that PLEEZBALEEVIT!!!!!!...period, god it's like arguing with a brick wall

[ImmortalOne]

Oh, and here are some more albums that are better than 2001:

Public Enemy's first 4 albums [especially It Takes A Nation and Black Planet]

All 4 Outkast LP's

The Chronic

Doggystyle

All Eyez On Me, Me Against The World, and Makaveli

36 Chambers, Liquid Swords, Cuban Linx, Ironman, Wu Forever

Illmatic

Ready To Die

Run DMC's first 3 albums

The first two Redman albums [especially Dare Iz A Darkside]

The Infamous

Moment Of Truth

Hard To Earn

All of the Beastie Boy's albums

Low End Theory and Midnight Marauders from Tribe Called Quest

Amerikkkaz Most Wanted, Death Certificate, The Predator

Straight Outta Compton



DAAAAAAAAAMN, I just named a SHITLOAD of albums better than 2001.

[ImmortalOne]

Oh, and for good measure, throw in:

Scarface, The Diary

The first two Goodie Mob albums

Its Dark And Hell Iz Hot

[Don Jacob]

oh yeah and to add to the influencial thing and impact thing those albums have been out for a while now, 2001 hasn't been out half as long ...


plus who the hell did they influence...nelly?

dude bone's music sounds ALOT like the other stuff that was coming out in that time period from the west don't even front, there is some differences with the singing but most of the topic manner was the same shit that was being talked about already

impact? again who did they impact...nelly, and that dude who has that song called "in my projects?" pleez

if you havn't noticed alot of popular parts from 2001 have been sampled or interploited...and i doubt you know about this but alot of punk rock acts have redone a few of the songs on there. not to say that's what makes your great but that says somthing about your greatness in that product

[Don Jacob]

i hope you know you just wasted time writing all those albums becuase the question was


what albums in the past 5 years are better than 2001....not too many

not what albums of all time are better no one siad it was the best album of all time

[ImmortalOne]

Dude, if it werent for Bone, where the fuck would midwest hip hop be?? Nowhere. I dont care how popular Nelly is, the fact of the matter is, Bone where the first cats from that region to blow up, and they ARE the pioneers of a particular sound. You cant deny it. That is how they are influential. Plus, how many cats have tried to bite their style?? A shitload of cats. Even a bunch of legit artists have tried to use the Bone flow, at one time or another. Nas, Biggie, Eminem, Outkast, and even Snoop Dogg have all tried to use the Bone flow at least once. Nobody was trying to do that shit until AFTER Bone blew up. Sure, there were cats rapping fast before Bone was, but Bone was the first to incorporate the harmony into it. After multi-platinum success, everyone was on their jock trying to use their flow. But Bone is the only group to have that style perfected, thus the reason why they are the only ones to reach multi-platinum status with it. Even 3-6 Mafia, who was out before Bone was, didnt start harmonizing until after Bone blew up. Cuz they wanted to emulate Bone's success, and though they got their first platinum album, it didnt sound half as dope as when Bone did it, cuz Bone are the pioneers of that style. E.1999 Eternal is the BLUEPRINT for midwest hip hop. That album influenced EVERY midwest hip hop album that came out after it.

[ImmortalOne]

i hope you know you just wasted time writing all those albums becuase the question was


what albums in the past 5 years are better than 2001....not too many

not what albums of all time are better no one siad it was the best album of all time

Albums in the last 5 years?? Lets see. The following albums, released within the last 5 years, are better than 2001 in my opinion:

ATLiens, Aquemini, Stankonia

Ironman, Wu Forever

Blackout

It Was Written, I Am

Murda Muzik

Moment Of Truth

Art Of War [yea, we discussed this, but I still like this better than 2001]

TM 1999

The 7 Day Theory

Its Dark And Hell Is Hot