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Quote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 03, 2008, 08:25:04 AMQuote from: UCC on March 03, 2008, 08:03:50 AMQuote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 03, 2008, 07:51:53 AMQuote from: HighEyeCue on March 03, 2008, 07:41:05 AMHey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to rememberNaaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself.... That Kool Mo Dee book is pretty good,Kurupt at 39, 2pac at 13, Ice Cube at 18, Ras Kass at 21, Xzibit at 27, Snoop at 33, Ice T at 35, Mack 10 at 49Thanx for the info,can you post the whole list? and maybe some scans?1. Melle Mel2. Rakim3. Krs-One4. Big Daddy Kane5. Kool Mo Dee6. Grandmaster Caz7. LL Cool J8. Chuck D9. Notorious BIG10. Lauryn Hill11. Nas12. Queen Latifah13. Tupac14. Kool G Rap15. Jay-Z16. Treach17. Method Man18. Ice Cube19. MC Lyte20. Redman21. Ras Kass22. GZA23. Will Smith24. Busta Rhymes25. Heavy D26. Xzibit27. Common28. Pharoahe Monch29. Black Thought30. Scarface31. Kurtis Blow32. Run33. Snoop Dogg34. Guru35. Ice-T36. Doug E Fresh37. Keith Murray38. Mystikal39. Kurupt40. Slick Rick41. Big Pun42. Lil Kim43. MC Shan44. Craig Mack45. Jeru The Damaja46. Fat Joe47. Spoonie Gee48. Foxy Brown49. Mack 1050. Just-IceAt the time the book came out, Eminem had only just blown, so Kool Mo Dee was saying it was too early to tell with him and some other dudes that had just come out. I thought the list was pretty good, some odd choices (Slick Rick way down at the 40???), but the stuff written about each is interesting, worth getting the book IMO
Quote from: UCC on March 03, 2008, 08:03:50 AMQuote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 03, 2008, 07:51:53 AMQuote from: HighEyeCue on March 03, 2008, 07:41:05 AMHey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to rememberNaaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself.... That Kool Mo Dee book is pretty good,Kurupt at 39, 2pac at 13, Ice Cube at 18, Ras Kass at 21, Xzibit at 27, Snoop at 33, Ice T at 35, Mack 10 at 49Thanx for the info,can you post the whole list? and maybe some scans?
Quote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 03, 2008, 07:51:53 AMQuote from: HighEyeCue on March 03, 2008, 07:41:05 AMHey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to rememberNaaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself.... That Kool Mo Dee book is pretty good,Kurupt at 39, 2pac at 13, Ice Cube at 18, Ras Kass at 21, Xzibit at 27, Snoop at 33, Ice T at 35, Mack 10 at 49
Quote from: HighEyeCue on March 03, 2008, 07:41:05 AMHey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to rememberNaaahh donīt remember that book,heīs ranked #37?Not sure where I would rank Kurupt objectivly myself....
Hey Chad I remember looking over this book at a bookstore a while back, good read,also do you remember Moe Dee had his own book "50 greatest MCs' or something like that,I remember reading it and he had Kurupt in it said some good things about him,I think he was ranked like #37 or some shit just trying to remember
props but wack list dude ranks himself 5th Kurupt at 39? dude is top 10 MC at least top 20LOL at Foxy Brown being on that list
Quote from: GottiValentino Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 03, 2008, 10:25:37 AMprops but wack list dude ranks himself 5th Kurupt at 39? dude is top 10 MC at least top 20LOL at Foxy Brown being on that listYeah, lol at ranking himself 5th, real objective opinion there!Kurupt wouldn't be top 10 though, come on, he's dope, but there's easily 10 MCs who HAVE to come before simply because they invented half the shit he and everyone else is doing and did it at a higher level, like Rakim, KRS, BDK, G Rap, Slick Rick, etcKurupt kind of fell off too, but when he was dope I think he was pretty high up, like in the league of Pharoahe Monch, Chino XL, Ras Kass, etc
I respect dudes opinion cause he is an OG and been in the game for a long timeI admit I havent heard all these 50 rappers since I started listening to rap in 1999but I know Mystikal is not better than Kurupt no way I cannot stand that guyand Big Pun was a beast don't understand his low ranking either
Is the book and list meant to be objective?
Quote from: GottiValentino on March 04, 2008, 03:51:23 PMunless I counted wrong there were only 7 west coast MCs on that listPacCubeRas KassXzibitSnoopIcetKurupthave not heard anything from ICEt was he that good to be better than Kurupt Ice-T is a "storyteller" type of rapper while Kurupt is "MC",wordplay and delivery is his strengh.Where's WC,Ren,RBX,D.O.C etc.?
unless I counted wrong there were only 7 west coast MCs on that listPacCubeRas KassXzibitSnoopIcetKurupthave not heard anything from ICEt was he that good to be better than Kurupt
Ice-T got some classics,no doubt about that...Pure technical I would rate Kurupt WAY higher on the list. But he probably have his reasons,so it would cool if we could get some scans of the pages about the West Coast rappers.
Quote from: Chad Vader Supporter of the Kill Jimmy Iovine Movement on March 04, 2008, 04:59:26 PMIce-T got some classics,no doubt about that...Pure technical I would rate Kurupt WAY higher on the list. But he probably have his reasons,so it would cool if we could get some scans of the pages about the West Coast rappers.yeah some scans would be dope to see his reasonshopefully UCC put some up he gave some good info
yeah some scans would be dope to see his reasonshopefully UCC put some up he gave some good info
Sorry guys, don't gots no scanner
With Kurupt he basically says that he's generally not a fan of gangsta rap, and the lack of content, but Kurupt is really lyrical with it. He also says Kurupt has a great vocabulary and he has great battle skills
I think West Coast MCs come off badly sometimes because if they have a more melodic flow,and simpler rhymes (which often sounds just as dope I think, as it's just a different style),then it won't seem as complex as some of the East Coast cats out there.Also the content of west coast often glorifies guns, bitches, money, etc, and East Coast have a lot of people who either talk about different things or talk about that stuff but not glorifying it (though that's more just stereotypical view of west coast rappers, seeing as west coast also has its pharcydes, dilated peoples, J5, etc).East coast also have all the pioneers of pretty much every style - rakim, g rap, big daddy kane, slick rick, krs one, etc etc
The book is worth buying IMO, you can probably get it second hand over amazon