Bishop Lamont's ''Grow Up'' was NOT produced by Dr. Dre!

[Prof@ssor]

Don't get me wrong, I'm a great Dr. Dre fan myself and no disrespect to Dre...but when i see Focus playing guitar AND piano in that DJ SKEE video, I seriously think it would be fair to say that in reality Dre (probably) only did the mixing of the song.

I think it's exaggerated when we say a song is PRODUCED by Dr. Dre... i mean lately he basically does only the mixing...so its only because the name DR. DRE sells. I wanted to know your guys opinion about this.

[smegma]

yeah... and Ain't No Fun was not produced by Dr. Dre either

[stylish]

Like Snoop says in an interview .. "produced by" .... dont mean "beat by"
( interviewer asked him about aint no fun beat )

[D-Stress]

Like Snoop says in an interview .. "produced by" .... dont mean "beat by"
( interviewer asked him about aint no fun beat )

what then?what did dre do if not a beat?what else?and people that did tha beat get no credit or what?thats weird!

[AnybodyKilla]

Like Snoop says in an interview .. "produced by" .... dont mean "beat by"
( interviewer asked him about aint no fun beat )

Who made the beat then LOL?

[West Coast Veteran]

Like Snoop says in an interview .. "produced by" .... dont mean "beat by"
( interviewer asked him about aint no fun beat )

what then?what did dre do if not a beat?what else?

Dre wouldn't play the instruments. He would have an idea of a sound he wanted and would ask someone to play it for him or one of his "helpers" would have a sound and Dre would build a beat around that sound ie. Scott Storch's piano loop on "Still DRE". Dre usually always does the drums though. If it comes to piano loops or guitar licks someone else usually would come up with it but Dre would CREATE a beat out of that sound and then add different things around it.

[D-Stress]

so a producer has just ideas and decides everything for the artist?
what if im NOT a producer but an artist and i want a special beat with some sample that ive heard and thought it would be dope?could a producer say "no, i want you to rap on THIS beat,what ive sampled"?what does the artist decide if everything decide producers and exec. producers?cant have an artist have own ideas and make it happen?does the artist get the producer-credit?

[D-Stress]

Lamont Says: "Produced By Buff Cuz", I Didnt Know Who Buff Cuz Is, But Then Someone Told Me That´s Dre.

[TRG]

Lamont Says: "Produced By Buff Cuz", I Didnt Know Who Buff Cuz Is, But Then Someone Told Me That´s Dre.

coz he's buff now (no homo)

[Prof@ssor]

Like Snoop says in an interview .. "produced by" .... dont mean "beat by"
( interviewer asked him about aint no fun beat )

what then?what did dre do if not a beat?what else?

Dre wouldn't play the instruments. He would have an idea of a sound he wanted and would ask someone to play it for him or one of his "helpers" would have a sound and Dre would build a beat around that sound ie. Scott Storch's piano loop on "Still DRE". Dre usually always does the drums though. If it comes to piano loops or guitar licks someone else usually would come up with it but Dre would CREATE a beat out of that sound and then add different things around it.

i know what you're saying...but for me people like Focus just dont get enough credits...have you ever see this man work? He does the sample, drums, keys, guitar AND everything else himself!!

[No Compute]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_producer

That should give you an idea of what a producer is.

I think the reason for this confusion is generally due to hip hop being sample based.

Has George Clinton never produced a Parliament/Funkadelic album because he doesn't play lead guitar, rhythm guitar, bass guitar, drums, keyboards, saxophone, trombone, trumpet or percussion?

[Nima - Dubcnn.com]

Goddamn it seems like this conversation HAS to come every few months... It's always the same thing!


Snoop Dogg: I always tell niggas, I coulda went on some Snoop Dogg shit and just said "Ay Dre, do my next record." and just lock down and be like "Fuck all yall I got the hottest shit on the West, and I'm the reason bla bla bla". But I'm not selfish. I coulda smashed everythang and did that. Cause he's at my disposal. But I'd rather fuck with other producers, other artists, and just give niggas an opportunity that I feel deserve it. Cause I fuck with Dre, it's not gonna be Terrace Martin, it's gonna be Battlecat, it's not gonna be Soopafly. All these niggas is gone! It's gonna be Dr. Dre produced by. Even if ya'll produced it! You feel what I'm saying?


Dubcnn: It's crazy you say that though. A lot of people been saying that for a long time.

Nah, but when I say that, it's not disrespect, because them niggas will bring a track that sounds cool, but when he's finished with it, that muthafucka is immaculate. Like for example if you were to hear the Stevie Wonder song that Busta Rhymes brought to Dre before Dre touched it, you would think it's two different songs.


Dubcnn: But he still should get some production credit though.

But, at the same time, Dre didn't take that from Sha Money. And when he was doing that for niggas back in the days, they didn't deserve to have their name in the game like that, because he did all of the work! So what you found a sample and you got a cool little drum file, but he brought the shit to life, so he really produced the track! Producing is bringing the track to life! Beatmakers make beats. A lot of niggas make beats. He produces tracks. So that ain't disrespect what I'm saying. I'm just telling you what's real.

I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the nigga made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthafucka to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthafucka and made it straight hit!


Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?

I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real nigga in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a nigga what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.


Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.

But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what niggas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this shit ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn shit from ya'll! See that's what niggas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?


Dubcnn: Right.

How many hits did Warren G make, how many hits did Daz make? None. None. Okay now, look at the tracks that they produced on The Chronic. Did they have any records like that by theyselves? No. You answer the question for me!


Dubcnn: Maybe on Dogg Food?

Come on man! Dogg Food was produced by Soopafly, Daz and Dr. Dre!


Dubcnn: Dre mixed it right?

No, Dre produced a lot of that shit! I'm telling you, Daz and them brought Dre beats, and he produced the muthafuckas! "What Would You Do" was just a beat that Daz had did. That "bu-bump, bu-bump", the nigga Dre put all that shit on it, that *sings* What would you do, whaa *sings* just to give it that other shit! I'm telling you what I know man! Niggas gotta give Dre the ultimate respect. Niggas try to bash him and cut his knees down like he didn't do nothing nigga, he's the saviour man! Because what he did was, he showed niggas how to produce. Because niggas was good at making beats, but he showed you niggas how to produce! If ya'll had really did what ya'll say ya'll did, ya'll woulda put records out that sold 3-4 million on your own, like he did. I still have to see it!

All the records that they put out solo wise, GARBAGE. Warren G's last record, HOT TO DEATH. The records in between, I don't know. And these are my homeboys, I don't lie to you, I tell it like it is!


Dubcnn: You don't like the Retaliation, Revenge & Get Back?

He was dissing me!


Dubcnn: I know, but it was still a good record!

I don't give a fuck! I don't like records with niggas dissing me! What I look like man? I didn't smash him though. I had a record I did with Mack 10 that woulda shut is whole career down. I told him and I let him hear the record, I told him "Nigga, I'm gonna let you get away with this cause you're my little cousin, and you rolling with Suge. I'ma let you get away with it." But in actuality I shoulda smashed his ass and kicked him out of the game, but that ain't the type of nigga I am! I love Daz and I know he was brainwashed! That would've been Suge's goal, to make two niggas lose for the price of one. So that's why I say I never really listen to that record cause I know the nigga was dissing. But it didn't sell no units!


Dubcnn: It went gold..

It didn't go gold. They bought 300,000 copies of that record. See you didn't know that though.


Dubcnn: Nah I didn't know that. That's some crazy shit.

I keep my ears to the streets man. I'm glad you're hollering at me though, my nigga! Cause I feel like ya'll niggas is like the connect to what we do. I'm thankful for ya'll, because if it wasn't for ya'll it wouldn't be nobody really representing this West shit and giving both perspectives. A lot of internet companies just want to promote violence and keep niggas at it.

But ya'll giving up both sides, like "Yeah I will fuck a nigga up, but I'm not trying to fuck a nigga up." As opposed to just printing "Yeah Snoop said he gone fuck all of ya'll up!" Like even the Spider Loc shit, the way I said it, it sounds like it's confrontational but it's not! It's just like nigga you need to wake up and get on some cool shit, instead of trying to disrespect the game. The game gotta be on some positive shit! I don't like Suge, he doesn't like me, but when I see him in the club, I don't fuck with him, he don't fuck with me! We just go our separate ways, it should be like that man. It shouldn't be "I'ma make a record about you" cause now my homeboys is looking at you like "We gotta do something to you." And the homies ain't got careers. The homies ain't got a B.E.T. interview to do tomorrow. So they ain't got nothing to lose. So why put them in a position where they gonna risk losing everything? Where you gone risk losing everything.

Before you even get in the game! Nobody even knows you Spider, all we hearing about you is negative shit! Get a hit record out there! I heard him on the video game, the Madden song, that's a cool little song, that "Don't Make Me Angry", I heard him on the NBA live shit, do that kind of shit my nigga! Do shit where niggas can respect you! Cause on some gangsta shit, we all gangsta out here! That don't have nothing to do with what we're trying to put down right now. We on peace right now. Peace always smashes war. Always.

[D-Stress]

^ i was about to post exact the same part as nima did.

[Dre-Day]

^ i was about to post exact the same part as nima did.

so you're progressing 

[Soopahigh]

Goddamn it seems like this conversation HAS to come every few months... It's always the same thing!