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iunno if this been posted yet, but....SeasonsMJ 13 (of eligibility) Kobe 11NBA ChampionshipsMJ 6 (in 6 Finals) Kobe 3 (in 5 Finals)NBA Finals MVPsMJ 6 (in 6 Finals) Kobe 0 (in 5 Finals)Season MVPsMJ 5 Kobe 1Defensive Player of the YearMJ 1 Kobe 0All-NBA First TeamMJ 10 Kobe 5All-Defensive First TeamMJ 9 Kobe 5Rookie of the YearMJ YES Kobe NOAll-Rookie First TeamMJ YES Kobe NOAll-StarMJ 14 Kobe 10All-Star Game MVPsMJ 3 Kobe 2Scoring TitlesMJ 10 Kobe 2Steals TitlesMJ 3 Kobe 0Top 10 in League in AssistsMJ 1 Kobe 0NBA records held aloneMJ 61 Kobe 0NBA records held (may be shared)MJ 69 Kobe 5Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the YearMJ 1 Kobe 0Olympic Gold MedalsMJ 2 Kobe 1Michael Jordan is #1 all-time in points per game and #3 all-time in points. Kobe Bryant is not in the top 10 all-time in points per game.Michael Jordan is #34 all-time in assists and #74 all-time in assists per game. Kobe Bryant is not in the top 100 all-time in assists per game.Michael Jordan is #3 all-time in rebounds and rebounds per game by a guard (behind Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson). Kobe Bryant is not remotely close.Michael Jordan is #2 all-time in steals and #4 all-time in steals per game. Kobe Bryant is not in the top 50 all-time in steals per game.Michael Jordan is #1 all-time in blocks and blocks per game by a guard. Kobe Bryant is not remotely closeNonetheless, Kobe is still a work in progress and he can catch or surpass Jordan in some of the categories i.e allstar games played/mvp. But Kobe won't come close to Jordan in Rebounding, Steals, Assists, the other 'team' components beside just scoring.
Those numbers do lie. Theres a lot of shit you have to factor in, mainly that Kobe is still playing and in his prime...
Quote from: GangstaBoogy on November 15, 2008, 10:36:51 PMThose numbers do lie. Theres a lot of shit you have to factor in, mainly that Kobe is still playing and in his prime...Jordan >>> the rapist
LMAO, Jordan never got molested in the finals like Kobe. How quickly people forget recent history. Jordan's first 3 rings were with a FAR less talented supporting staff than anything Kobe ever won a ship with. This debate is so retarded...Jordan is so much more highly decorated than Kobe at this point. MAYBE Kobe will win 4 more ships, rack up a bunch of MVP's, etc. Then you could have a legit debate.
But at least LBJ showed up in the elimination game, instead of allowing his team to get beat by 30 or whatever. Kobe, like that one game 7 against the SUns, merely gave up...............which is why HE IS NOT JORDAN. Is he as talented as Jordan? DEFINITELY----------but fact is, Jordan never went out in finals game like that. Kobe still has ALOT to do to get on Jordan's level as far as acoomplishments go, and isn't that what sports is all about? Not potential or ability, but RESULTS. 6 finals MVP's, 6 championships as leader means Jordan is still WAY ahead.The comparisons do hold weight, but its still not that close..........
NI<K, don't use the second best player argument, because it was you who was guaranteeing a win in the finals, right? And accomplishments DO matter, numbers do matter.........look at things objectively, and you can see its Jordan way ahead of Kobe for now. Kobe at his very best is close to Jordan, but it will be damn near impossible for Kobe to reach Jordan's level for his career. And really, when players are done, we look at them at how they played over their career......not for the so-called "prime" seasons. Of course, take Jordan's four best seasons and put them against Kobe's, and its still not close......Of course, Kobe's prime is still TBA...............last year's finals loss was not a great way to start his case for greatest ever. Of course, I don't think even Kobe is as concerned about his legace as his fans are........
Quote from: Tommy Fits is your hero on November 15, 2008, 11:19:20 PMQuote from: GangstaBoogy on November 15, 2008, 10:36:51 PMThose numbers do lie. Theres a lot of shit you have to factor in, mainly that Kobe is still playing and in his prime...Jordan >>> the rapist Call me back when that joke is done dying...
Quote from: GangstaBoogy on November 15, 2008, 11:24:58 PMQuote from: Tommy Fits is your hero on November 15, 2008, 11:19:20 PMQuote from: GangstaBoogy on November 15, 2008, 10:36:51 PMThose numbers do lie. Theres a lot of shit you have to factor in, mainly that Kobe is still playing and in his prime...Jordan >>> the rapist Call me back when that joke is done dying...I wish I was joking but if he wasn't Kobe Bryant he would be locked up right now.
Quote from: Tommy Fits is your hero on November 16, 2008, 01:28:09 PMQuote from: GangstaBoogy on November 15, 2008, 11:24:58 PMQuote from: Tommy Fits is your hero on November 15, 2008, 11:19:20 PMQuote from: GangstaBoogy on November 15, 2008, 10:36:51 PMThose numbers do lie. Theres a lot of shit you have to factor in, mainly that Kobe is still playing and in his prime...Jordan >>> the rapist Call me back when that joke is done dying...I wish I was joking but if he wasn't Kobe Bryant he would be locked up right now.if he wasn't kobe bryant he woulda never been accused...i swear, all you damn hicks think the same.