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then surely western governments must also recognise this and so it would lead one to ask why they would be so happy to populate the west with muslims? sounds like they want chaos to me but you said real conspiracy's don't exist? The intention of that comment is not even to be sarcastic, I am just simply taking the lines within what you have written albeit an excerpt and just trying to demonstrate that in them seems to lie a real contradiction.
There is no contradiction. Western governments are dominated by self-hating white liberals and Marxists who want to believe in the "equality" crap that they were raised on for their entire lives. It's not so much a conspiracy as the inevitable outgrowth of white guilt. I am trying to make whites realize that they do not have to feel guilty, and that doing so puts them in a vulnerable position.
Quote from: virtuoso on January 27, 2009, 05:44:09 AMthen surely western governments must also recognise this and so it would lead one to ask why they would be so happy to populate the west with muslims? sounds like they want chaos to me but you said real conspiracy's don't exist? The intention of that comment is not even to be sarcastic, I am just simply taking the lines within what you have written albeit an excerpt and just trying to demonstrate that in them seems to lie a real contradiction.There is no contradiction. Western governments are dominated by self-hating white liberals and Marxists who want to believe in the "equality" crap that they were raised on for their entire lives. It's not so much a conspiracy as the inevitable outgrowth of white guilt. I am trying to make whites realize that they do not have to feel guilty, and that doing so puts them in a vulnerable position.And ultimately, it's quite likely we're going to see the rise of true conservative parties (like the British National Party) in Europe within the next decade, which will lead to mass deportation of jihadists and their sympathizers in the European Muslim communities.But what would you know? You're the one who wants to believe there's a Jewish/Israeli conspiracy. You're on the same level as the REAL fascists.
Where did I say it was an jewish conspiracy?
This is what I don't understand once again, you are trying to tell me that the most powerful people running the show only want to create equality?
However I don't know why simply sharing that philosophy makes me a "white nationalist". If I accept those facts as truth, why do I need to be part of a movement, can't I just be my own person with no affiliation to anything?
Quote from: Pacific Standard on January 27, 2009, 12:46:00 PMHowever I don't know why simply sharing that philosophy makes me a "white nationalist". If I accept those facts as truth, why do I need to be part of a movement, can't I just be my own person with no affiliation to anything? You aren't unless you believe that a white society is preferable to a mixed-race society. That is what white nationalism is. We may draw from many arguments that conservatives of the mainstream variety have championed for years, but we draw different conclusions. There are, for instance, many conservatives who take a stand against affirmative action, and who believe that slavery, segregation, and insufficient social spending do not explain why blacks are prone to poverty and crime. However, almost none of those in the mainstream (i.e. the Republican Party) would ever dare argue that race has anything to do with this. They're more likely to blame problems in the black community upon a lack of proper family values (translation: they'll be better if they go to Church) and the ghetto culture (translation: ban rap music). The thought that blacks are genetically prone to such behavior is something they will always stop short of arguing. Whereas I won't.
why do I need to be part of a movement, can't I just be my own person with no affiliation to anything? To me lack of independent thought and an established "movement" pertaining to racial attitudes is what has separated whites from others in the first place.
Quote from: virtuoso on January 27, 2009, 02:50:59 PMWhere did I say it was an jewish conspiracy? You just started a topic about how the Israelis own news agencies.Quote from: virtuoso on January 27, 2009, 02:50:59 PMThis is what I don't understand once again, you are trying to tell me that the most powerful people running the show only want to create equality? The "most powerful people" aren't some monolithic entity which have all the same views. However, most professors and journalists are ultra-liberals who vote Democrat and have strong pro-equality feelings, and who have a need to feel they're championing a cause. So they force multi-cultural propaganda down people's throats, to a point where anyone who does not espouse their views is ostracized and treated as evil.Unlike you, I don't look for some evil conspiracy plot, which is obviously bullshit. The people who are shoving us down the road to a multi-cultural society are well-intentioned. But the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Boom. See thats where we differ: you think its down to one's nature and intelligence is hereditary. Scientist have found certain genes give a disposition towards certain aspects like types of emotions and intelliigence however its nurture/one's upbringing and environment and personal will, etc that determines intelligence/contribution to society. So we know now race and genetics have a little to do with it but also nothing to do with it when compared to extraneous factors and one's postion in the world and environment and one's personal will.
If my hand had free reign and the ability to i'd impose a secular UN dictatorship upon Israel and Palestine and forcefully spoon feed their children a liberal secular enlightenment inter-religious education...I'd encourage inter-faith, bi-racial and bi-cultural relationships and families ......Plus I'd rebuild Solomon's Temple...
Yeah I can understand that about them only trying to better serve humanity, I mean the IMF are such wonderfully loving people, they don't want to financially rape the peasantry, they love everyone. Leo Strauss didn't actually consider the citizens slaves to be controlled by their masters, even though he states that, obviously his words are taken out of context. Ah man fuck it, yes they are just wonderfully fantastic people, so well intentioned.Notice I am talking about the architects, of course there are good intentioned people to but the further you go up the chain, the uglier things become and when you are dealing with global bodies like the IMF, then you are dealing with an entity whose purpose is to create dependence thus dominating all economic activity. Do you think the architects of the european union usurpsed sovereign powers, created a central dictatorship because they love everyone, yeah I am sure they do. After all, power and dominance and enslavement equals love, it's silly of me to argue to the contrary.