"I will be in the Hall of Fame"

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said by none other than the legendary Vince Young!

[thisoneguy360]

He's acting like an idiot but I feel for him cause it seems like he's been lost for years.

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He's acting like an idiot but I feel for him cause it seems like he's been lost for years.

you think anyone in the HOF today sat their first 4-5 years on the bench as a backup?

but yeah, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

[Lunatic]

^He's entering his 4th year and I for one haven't forgotten his rookie year. The guy is like 22? 23? He has plenty time. I really hope he comes back hard and shuts everyone up. If so, you won't hear the end of it from me

[Shallow]

He's acting like an idiot but I feel for him cause it seems like he's been lost for years.

you think anyone in the HOF today sat their first 4-5 years on the bench as a backup?

but yeah, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

Steve Young.

[OG Hack Wilson]

doh

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He's acting like an idiot but I feel for him cause it seems like he's been lost for years.

you think anyone in the HOF today sat their first 4-5 years on the bench as a backup?

but yeah, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

Steve Young.

really? didn't know that.

but regardless, he will never win; you need a traditional pocket QB to win; no one this decade has won with a McNabb/Vick type QB; well McNabb came close, but didn't.

actually probably more than just this decade, but i know this decade didn't have any lol.

[Shallow]

He's acting like an idiot but I feel for him cause it seems like he's been lost for years.

you think anyone in the HOF today sat their first 4-5 years on the bench as a backup?

but yeah, what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

Steve Young.

really? didn't know that.

but regardless, he will never win; you need a traditional pocket QB to win; no one this decade has won with a McNabb/Vick type QB; well McNabb came close, but didn't.

actually probably more than just this decade, but i know this decade didn't have any lol.

That it exactly what they said about Young in his first few years. Young was a big name college QB who built his name with his legs but had a terrible football IQ. He was a great athlete with a huge buzz going into the draft, but he signed with the USFL and a garaunteed 40 million paid over 40 years (I think he's still getting paid as we speak). He played two seasons there, then signed with the Bucs when the USFL folded. He came in to the Bucs and posted a 3-16 win/loss record with 11 TDs and 21 INTs, for barely 2500 yarsd in the 1 and a half seasons he played there. He ran 400+ yards in his 14 games in season 2 with the Bucs though.

Anyway, Bill Walsh saw a raw talent that needed to be molded and took him on as back up from 87 to 90. Then in 91 the Niners cut Montana and named Young the starter. The rest his history.

Of course if he stayed on the Bucs we wouldn't even know his name right now, but if Joe Cool was on the Bucs we wouldn't know his name either. The point is a hall of fame career for a QB is almost always dependant on the team. The Titans win 2 or 3 SBs in the next ten years the way they play ball by running and defense and Vince plays the exact same way he's playing now, he'll make the hall of fame. Or he could sit and learn from the bench the next year or two and emerge a much smarter QB and earn his hall of fame spot himself. Anything can happen in the next ten seasons.

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^but he also got advice/tips from the greatest QB of all time.

Vince has tape of Vick & Kerry Collins as a mentor.

[Shallow]

^but he also got advice/tips from the greatest QB of all time.

Vince has tape of Vick & Kerry Collins as a mentor.

The greatest QB of all time doesn't get traded. What Young had was the mentorship of two of the greatest offensive minds in football history. First Walsh and then Mike Shanahan as OC when the season the Niners decided to trade Montana.

The Niners were a team built to win, and make QBs look good. Shit even Steve Bono looked like a stud when he got to start while Young was injured early in his career. We can debate how good Montana really was all night, but what's not debatable is that he had a rather minimal effect on Young's progress. Montana never had time to player teacher. Shanahan did, and that was the key to Young maturing.

My point is that if in the next couple years McDaniels is a bust in Denver and takes an OC job in Tenessee or is Weis gets dumped from Notre Dame and does the same, you'll see a completely different Titans offense and maybe a hell of a lot better Vince Young. Maybe we won't. I'm just saying the book is yet to be written on Vince Young.

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^but he also got advice/tips from the greatest QB of all time.

Vince has tape of Vick & Kerry Collins as a mentor.

The greatest QB of all time doesn't get traded. What Young had was the mentorship of two of the greatest offensive minds in football history. First Walsh and then Mike Shanahan as OC when the season the Niners decided to trade Montana.

The Niners were a team built to win, and make QBs look good. Shit even Steve Bono looked like a stud when he got to start while Young was injured early in his career. We can debate how good Montana really was all night, but what's not debatable is that he had a rather minimal effect on Young's progress. Montana never had time to player teacher. Shanahan did, and that was the key to Young maturing.

My point is that if in the next couple years McDaniels is a bust in Denver and takes an OC job in Tenessee or is Weis gets dumped from Notre Dame and does the same, you'll see a completely different Titans offense and maybe a hell of a lot better Vince Young. Maybe we won't. I'm just saying the book is yet to be written on Vince Young.

you're very optimistic, but i'm writing him off, until proven otherwise.

[Lunatic]

Way 2 early 2 write him off and as a poster said, his book hasn't been written. Dude is a phenomenal talent. Maybe not hall of fame, but I do think he can be the first black QB to win a super bowl. And McNair was his mentor, not Collins.

[Fuck Your Existence]

he's still young enough to turn his career around..havin said that though,the shit will never happen


and props to shallow for bein up on steve young,#1 on my all-time list

[Fuck Your Existence]

but I do think he can be the first black QB to win a super bowl.

second...doug williams beat him to being the first

[Lunatic]

but I do think he can be the first black QB to win a super bowl.

second...doug williams beat him to being the first

ah, my bad. The second