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I think Pac is a tough call. He's actually my favorite hip-hop artist of all-time but even I shake my head at a lot of things that some of these fans say. It has a lot to do with him being no longer with us. They've created this idea in their mind that he was more than human. It's like people can't seperate their own vision of who Pac was with the reality. Yes, he was one of the greatest artists in the hip-hop genre but he wasn't bigger than it and to argue that there are other artists who were just as good for other reasons is not blasphemy. But in general, the argument is true of any entertainer or public figure. They love you until you get THIS big and then they need to bring you back down. Nnobody wants to root for the person that has everything because it's not appealing. They'll root for their underdog until he becomes more than that and then they need to see him/her fall so they can cheer them again we they get back up. It's a certainty with anyone whose career is followed by millions of people.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 27, 2009, 07:42:18 PMthe bigger the name you are, the better chance of people hating on you?Tupac for example, biggest name in rap history & all i read on this board is how he is overrated; whereas a guy like Big L (who never reached stardom of Pac or Big) will never get shitted on, only praised.As for 2Pac... I think that many of those who are or were a fan of his now realize what an artist he really was. The younger generation is more likely to think he's overrated because they never experienced Pac's music as others might have done.
the bigger the name you are, the better chance of people hating on you?Tupac for example, biggest name in rap history & all i read on this board is how he is overrated; whereas a guy like Big L (who never reached stardom of Pac or Big) will never get shitted on, only praised.
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 27, 2009, 07:42:18 PMLil' Wayne - C1, C2 dropped & everybody was feelin' his music. deemed the "Best Rapper Alive", changed his "on the mic" personality & gained a massive amount of hate.He did fall the fuck off. Compare C1 (which was his worst album to date then) to C3 and it's undeniable he fell off.
Lil' Wayne - C1, C2 dropped & everybody was feelin' his music. deemed the "Best Rapper Alive", changed his "on the mic" personality & gained a massive amount of hate.
But in general, the argument is true of any entertainer or public figure. They love you until you get THIS big and then they need to bring you back down. Nnobody wants to root for the person that has everything because it's not appealing. They'll root for their underdog until he becomes more than that and then they need to see him/her fall so they can cheer them again we they get back up. It's a certainty with anyone whose career is followed by millions of people.
i feel as if this thread is pointed towards me.i think that 2pac is over rated in the fact that people make him out to be the "god" MC. while I will admit he has a shitload of great songs, he isn't the best rapper ever IMHO. I don't even know who'd i'd consider to be the best rapper ever but 2pac wouldn't be one of them.people don't shit on L because he never made it and that's what makes his death so tragic is that he was about to sign to rocafella and possibly make himself known. I think he had that personality that would of made him a celeb.
I don't really care what people say, to me - Pac is the best ever, I can't see anybody coming close to his status.
Quote from: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 28, 2009, 03:48:43 PMi feel as if this thread is pointed towards me.i think that 2pac is over rated in the fact that people make him out to be the "god" MC. while I will admit he has a shitload of great songs, he isn't the best rapper ever IMHO. I don't even know who'd i'd consider to be the best rapper ever but 2pac wouldn't be one of them.people don't shit on L because he never made it and that's what makes his death so tragic is that he was about to sign to rocafella and possibly make himself known. I think he had that personality that would of made him a celeb.why do you think pac is overrated
my main point is, you will never hear anybody talk down upon the likes of Raekwon or AZ or Immortal Technique.just for the simple reason that they never are the main topic of conversation.i remember when Drake was just starting & everybody was like "wow, this dude is the fuckin' shit!".BLEW THE FUCK UP with some songs & then i read things like "ahh, that nigga Drake ain't all that, he's alright".
Quote from: Chamillitary Click on September 27, 2009, 10:36:33 PMmy main point is, you will never hear anybody talk down upon the likes of Raekwon or AZ or Immortal Technique.just for the simple reason that they never are the main topic of conversation.i remember when Drake was just starting & everybody was like "wow, this dude is the fuckin' shit!".BLEW THE FUCK UP with some songs & then i read things like "ahh, that nigga Drake ain't all that, he's alright".i never thought drake was good, i dont think he is good now either.. nothing special about him @ all...
the bigger the name you are, the better chance of people hating on you?Tupac for example, biggest name in rap history & all i read on this board is how he is overrated; whereas a guy like Big L (who never reached stardom of Pac or Big) will never get shitted on, only praised.i feel if Pac & L switched shoes, people would be all over L, being super critical & shit.