Titans @ Patriiots gamethread

[Shallow]

Brady did nothing exceptional. All he did was throw to wide open WR all quarter. When I say wide open, I really stress that. Any QB could have done what he did. Those 3 rookie CB were no match for anything or anyone.

Switch QBs and you'd have the exact same score NE-59 TEN-0

[Lunatic]

Brady did nothing exceptional. All he did was throw to wide open WR all quarter. When I say wide open, I really stress that. Any QB could have done what he did. Those 3 rookie CB were no match for anything or anyone.

Switch QBs and you'd have the exact same score NE-59 TEN-0

Yup

[Chamillitary Click]

LOL, again with the "if's" & "you could's".

show me facts.

generating scenario's will lead to a never ending argument.

i could say, "if Tom Brady" had less protection, he could do this or that.

IF the Florida Marlins stayed together after they won a World Series, they could of won 5 or 6.

IF Kobe didn't have Shaq, he couldn't of won a ring.

[Shallow]

LOL, again with the "if's" & "you could's".

show me facts.

generating scenario's will lead to a never ending argument.

i could say, "if Tom Brady" had less protection, he could do this or that.

IF the Florida Marlins stayed together after they won a World Series, they could of won 5 or 6.

IF Kobe didn't have Shaq, he couldn't of won a ring.

Exactly. Thanks for seeing things my way.

Here's another "if". If Babe Ruth played his 1921 season in stadiums with modern day dimensions he would have had over 100 Hrs that year.


http://www.amazon.com/Year-Babe-Ruth-Home-Runs/dp/0786719060


This guy studied and tracked every hit that year by the Babe and came to the scientific conclusion that over 40 of babe's long fly balls (either pop outs or doubles) would have been Home Runs. And every one of those balls were factually studied. Where those balls landed would not have been in the field of play in the same stadiums Bonds, and Aaron played in.


But of course Bonds and Aaron are better HR hitters because a few stupid numbers say so.


Just answer me this; how many TD passes do you think Peyton Manning would have had against that week 17 game against Denver, knowing that that Jim Sorgi threw for 2, and Manning himself threw 4 the next week against Denver in the playoffs? Just give me a number.

[Chamillitary Click]

^who did Babe Ruth face? Randy Johnson? Roger Clemens? Nolan Ryan? Mariano? a left handed specialist out of the pen? unreal sliders & curve balls?

i would agree, hitting 100 homeruns would make him hands down the greatest homerun hitter ever, but steriods (WHICH YOU APPROVE OF LOL) say differently lol.

but like i was saying? who was he facing?

anyway to answer your question, 47; yeah, in one game lol.

since it's all hypothetical, i don't see how i can be wrong lol.

[OG Hack Wilson]

chamilitary you sound like a fool trying to argue Brady over Manning

[Shallow]

^who did Babe Ruth face? Randy Johnson? Roger Clemens? Nolan Ryan? Mariano? a left handed specialist out of the pen? unreal sliders & curve balls?

i would agree, hitting 100 homeruns would make him hands down the greatest homerun hitter ever, but steriods (WHICH YOU APPROVE OF LOL) say differently lol.

but like i was saying? who was he facing?

anyway to answer your question, 47; yeah, in one game lol.

since it's all hypothetical, i don't see how i can be wrong lol.

Steroids say nothing. Babe still has more HR per at bat than any in the roid era. You want a crazy slider and curveball, try facing a spitballer. I could name a bunch of amazing pitchers from the Ruth era, but you wouldn't know them. The fact your're arguing against Ruth shows me something, because Ruth is so much more head and shoulders best Baseball player ever than Montana and Brady combined are best QB ever.


47, eh. Good to know. So if Manning played that game he'd have had 96 TDs that season. I wouldn't even have guessed that high.

[OG Hack Wilson]

hey chamilitary click


babe ruth faced WALTER JOHNSON


walter johnson = best pitcher ever



oh and btw BAbe was one of the best pitchers ever too....go look at his post season pitching

[Shallow]

hey chamilitary click


babe ruth faced WALTER JOHNSON


walter johnson = best pitcher ever



oh and btw BAbe was one of the best pitchers ever too....go look at his post season pitching

and he got 10 dingers off of the 100 mph right hander with a 2.17 era

[Chamillitary Click]

chamilitary you sound like a fool trying to argue Brady over Manning

where do i make that argument?

hey chamilitary click


babe ruth faced WALTER JOHNSON


walter johnson = best pitcher ever



oh and btw BAbe was one of the best pitchers ever too....go look at his post season pitching

Babe Ruth is the best baseball players of all time, but "best HR hitter" doesn't equal best all all time.

& Walter was amazing, but it was just him (with some others, take some sarcasm). but if you're trying to make the argument pitching back then was more dominant then opposed to all the of HOFer's that Aaron & Bonds faced i won't even bother responding.

[Shallow]

chamilitary you sound like a fool trying to argue Brady over Manning

where do i make that argument?

hey chamilitary click


babe ruth faced WALTER JOHNSON


walter johnson = best pitcher ever



oh and btw BAbe was one of the best pitchers ever too....go look at his post season pitching

Babe Ruth is the best baseball players of all time, but "best HR hitter" doesn't equal best all all time.

& Walter was amazing, but it was just him (with some others, take some sarcasm). but if you're trying to make the argument pitching back then was more dominant then opposed to all the of HOFer's that Aaron & Bonds faced i won't even bother responding.

The stats are hard to find but by checking the HR logs of both Aaron and Ruth; Babe Ruth's top 20 pitchers he hit HRs off of consist of 4 hall of famers. Aaron's list has 5 hall of famers. What's your point?

[Chamillitary Click]

chamilitary you sound like a fool trying to argue Brady over Manning

where do i make that argument?

hey chamilitary click


babe ruth faced WALTER JOHNSON


walter johnson = best pitcher ever



oh and btw BAbe was one of the best pitchers ever too....go look at his post season pitching

Babe Ruth is the best baseball players of all time, but "best HR hitter" doesn't equal best all all time.

& Walter was amazing, but it was just him (with some others, take some sarcasm). but if you're trying to make the argument pitching back then was more dominant then opposed to all the of HOFer's that Aaron & Bonds faced i won't even bother responding.

The stats are hard to find but by checking the HR logs of both Aaron and Ruth; Babe Ruth's top 20 pitchers he hit HRs off of consist of 4 hall of famers. Aaron's list has 5 hall of famers. What's your point?

1. i have no real point, you brought this Babe Ruth factor into a Patriots gamethread & i just don't personally agree he is the greatest homerun hitter of all time.

2. as far this side argument goes, Hack was posting stats of greatest peaks & Mcguire have like 66 per & Ruth was at 53 per.

also, i remember hearing Bonds was averaging a homerun per 8-9 at bats; i don't know if Ruth had numbers like that in any season, but regardless he has more in a regular season & in a career.

[OG Hack Wilson]

who lead the league in home runs more than the Babe?


Babe Ruth hit a record 29 homeruns in the DEAD BALL ERA - if you hit 15 back then you were a "slugger"

[Chamillitary Click]

who lead the league in home runs more than the Babe?


Babe Ruth hit a record 29 homeruns in the DEAD BALL ERA - if you hit 15 back then you were a "slugger"

lol, the competiton today is so much better than it was in the 1920's, it's barely comparable.

how many players back then even hit more than 35 homeruns in a season?

he had nobody pitching to him & the "somebodies" who were pitching to him were throwing 18 straight innings in back to back double headers lol.

[Shallow]

who lead the league in home runs more than the Babe?


Babe Ruth hit a record 29 homeruns in the DEAD BALL ERA - if you hit 15 back then you were a "slugger"

lol, the competiton today is so much better than it was in the 1920's, it's barely comparable.

how many players back then even hit more than 35 homeruns in a season?

he had nobody pitching to him & the "somebodies" who were pitching to him were throwing 18 straight innings in back to back double headers lol.

So all the batters were so bad in the 20s that of all the 18 straight inning pitchers only the Babe could hit the ball long? Give me a break. You're the one who likes facts. Here's a fact for you. Bonds hit an HR ver 13 at bats. Babe hit 1 every 12 at bats. No ifs, no buts, no speculation. Babe Ruth is a better homerun hitter because he hit a homerun more often than Bonds did. We could speculate on pitchers all day and believe me I have theoretical arguments up the wazoo, but you like stats and facts and the fact is that Ruth is a better HR hitter than Bonds, because when Bonds made it to Ruth at bat number he had 150 less homeruns than Ruth. So if you bet on Bonds in a game to hit a homerun and I bet on Ruth, at the end of each career I'd have more money because Ruth hit more homeruns and more often.