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Quote from: Okka on February 27, 2011, 09:13:37 AMYeah, "Xxplosive" was originally a King T song called "The Future". Hittman said that in one of his old interviews.yeah i heard about that, i think it's also mentioned in dre's biography by ronin ro(perhaps the interview was quoted there, i can't remember)
Yeah, "Xxplosive" was originally a King T song called "The Future". Hittman said that in one of his old interviews.
In regards to Hello and the other song, anything is possible. Credits have been stolen before, then again it seems a lot of dudes at Aftermath take credit for shit they didn't do.
Quote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 12:27:26 PMIn regards to Hello and the other song, anything is possible. Credits have been stolen before, then again it seems a lot of dudes at Aftermath take credit for shit they didn't do.Yeah, true that. A lot of people are sayin' they produced songs that were produced by Dr. Dre & Mel-Man ("Hello" for example, the booklet of "War & Peace" II says that Chris "The Glove" Taylor played the keys on the song with Tommy Costner Jr.) Also Neff-U and them dudes said they produced some songs that were produced by Eminem (according to the booklet credits)
Quote from: Okka on February 27, 2011, 12:49:10 PMQuote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 12:27:26 PMIn regards to Hello and the other song, anything is possible. Credits have been stolen before, then again it seems a lot of dudes at Aftermath take credit for shit they didn't do.Yeah, true that. A lot of people are sayin' they produced songs that were produced by Dr. Dre & Mel-Man ("Hello" for example, the booklet of "War & Peace" II says that Chris "The Glove" Taylor played the keys on the song with Tommy Costner Jr.) Also Neff-U and them dudes said they produced some songs that were produced by Eminem (according to the booklet credits)In other music genres people who play keys get credited as playing keys, but in hip hop people that play keyboards want to take credit as producer.
Quote from: Layeth The Smacketh Down on February 27, 2011, 01:36:20 PMQuote from: Okka on February 27, 2011, 12:49:10 PMQuote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 12:27:26 PMIn regards to Hello and the other song, anything is possible. Credits have been stolen before, then again it seems a lot of dudes at Aftermath take credit for shit they didn't do.Yeah, true that. A lot of people are sayin' they produced songs that were produced by Dr. Dre & Mel-Man ("Hello" for example, the booklet of "War & Peace" II says that Chris "The Glove" Taylor played the keys on the song with Tommy Costner Jr.) Also Neff-U and them dudes said they produced some songs that were produced by Eminem (according to the booklet credits)In other music genres people who play keys get credited as playing keys, but in hip hop people that play keyboards want to take credit as producer.Soopafly played "Keys" for Daz, how do Daz's productions sound without Soopafly? It's kind of like a way to get away without giving proper credit.
Quote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 01:37:46 PMQuote from: Layeth The Smacketh Down on February 27, 2011, 01:36:20 PMQuote from: Okka on February 27, 2011, 12:49:10 PMQuote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 12:27:26 PMIn regards to Hello and the other song, anything is possible. Credits have been stolen before, then again it seems a lot of dudes at Aftermath take credit for shit they didn't do.Yeah, true that. A lot of people are sayin' they produced songs that were produced by Dr. Dre & Mel-Man ("Hello" for example, the booklet of "War & Peace" II says that Chris "The Glove" Taylor played the keys on the song with Tommy Costner Jr.) Also Neff-U and them dudes said they produced some songs that were produced by Eminem (according to the booklet credits)In other music genres people who play keys get credited as playing keys, but in hip hop people that play keyboards want to take credit as producer.Soopafly played "Keys" for Daz, how do Daz's productions sound without Soopafly? It's kind of like a way to get away without giving proper credit.My understanding is that the producer is the one who dictates and oversees the sound of the song. The keyboard player is someone that plays keyboards under the direction of the producer.
Correct, but a lot of these dudes who are credited as producers aren't the producers just by themselves. Like a lot of credit gets misplaced, like when D.O.C. told Snoop how to rap the songs on The Chronic - that's production. That's like telling a singer how to sing, and that's production, but D.O.C. was credited as a writer on that or just not credited at all or you'll have a beat/production that's basically already done then someone like Dre will add a few elements and make it his beat. Diddy's guilty of stuff like that, so I wouldn't doubt Dre is too.
Quote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 02:01:43 PM Correct, but a lot of these dudes who are credited as producers aren't the producers just by themselves. Like a lot of credit gets misplaced, like when D.O.C. told Snoop how to rap the songs on The Chronic - that's production. That's like telling a singer how to sing, and that's production, but D.O.C. was credited as a writer on that or just not credited at all or you'll have a beat/production that's basically already done then someone like Dre will add a few elements and make it his beat. Diddy's guilty of stuff like that, so I wouldn't doubt Dre is too. Yes, but if you're working for a major label or studio, everyone has input. The producer (or in the case of a movie, director) is the one who has the final say. It's gonna be a collaborative effort or it won't work at all. A producer is very rarely (especially on a major level) going to come up with the concept from scratch and then create every little detail. The idea that Dr. Dre or any producer/movie director/sports coach/etc. are these people who come up with every idea on their own is just not acurrate. They make for great stories but like D.O.C. said in that interview he did recently, "every succesful person has at least five or six people helping them get there". Producers are ultimately decision-makers.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on February 27, 2011, 05:49:33 PMQuote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 02:01:43 PM Correct, but a lot of these dudes who are credited as producers aren't the producers just by themselves. Like a lot of credit gets misplaced, like when D.O.C. told Snoop how to rap the songs on The Chronic - that's production. That's like telling a singer how to sing, and that's production, but D.O.C. was credited as a writer on that or just not credited at all or you'll have a beat/production that's basically already done then someone like Dre will add a few elements and make it his beat. Diddy's guilty of stuff like that, so I wouldn't doubt Dre is too. Yes, but if you're working for a major label or studio, everyone has input. The producer (or in the case of a movie, director) is the one who has the final say. It's gonna be a collaborative effort or it won't work at all. A producer is very rarely (especially on a major level) going to come up with the concept from scratch and then create every little detail. The idea that Dr. Dre or any producer/movie director/sports coach/etc. are these people who come up with every idea on their own is just not acurrate. They make for great stories but like D.O.C. said in that interview he did recently, "every succesful person has at least five or six people helping them get there". Producers are ultimately decision-makers. This applies only to hip hop, I assume, because it's a lot different in other genres of music to my knowledge.
Quote from: Jimmy H. on February 27, 2011, 05:49:33 PMQuote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 02:01:43 PM Correct, but a lot of these dudes who are credited as producers aren't the producers just by themselves. Like a lot of credit gets misplaced, like when D.O.C. told Snoop how to rap the songs on The Chronic - that's production. That's like telling a singer how to sing, and that's production, but D.O.C. was credited as a writer on that or just not credited at all or you'll have a beat/production that's basically already done then someone like Dre will add a few elements and make it his beat. Diddy's guilty of stuff like that, so I wouldn't doubt Dre is too. Yes, but if you're working for a major label or studio, everyone has input. The producer (or in the case of a movie, director) is the one who has the final say. It's gonna be a collaborative effort or it won't work at all. A producer is very rarely (especially on a major level) going to come up with the concept from scratch and then create every little detail. The idea that Dr. Dre or any producer/movie director/sports coach/etc. are these people who come up with every idea on their own is just not acurrate. They make for great stories but like D.O.C. said in that interview he did recently, "every succesful person has at least five or six people helping them get there". Producers are ultimately decision-makers. I also viewed production as similar to directing. My understanding is that the producer like the director decides how the scene is shot and what stays in or out, a music producer decides the overall direction of how the song is going to sound. He decides what sound goes with another sound as opposed to someone who is just brought in to play a melody on a keyboard or guitar. The person that creates a melody usually gets writing credit but not production credit because they don't supervise the song.
I also viewed production as similar to directing. My understanding is that the producer like the director decides how the scene is shot and what stays in or out, a music producer decides the overall direction of how the song is going to sound. He decides what sound goes with another sound as opposed to someone who is just brought in to play a melody on a keyboard or guitar. The person that creates a melody usually gets writing credit but not production credit because they don't supervise the song.
dope and insightful interview. didn't know he had a hand in those tracks he said he produced but i believe him. it's not the first time we've heard this about dre.
Quote from: Classic Material..... Your Bitch'z Wet Dream on February 27, 2011, 12:12:59 PMdope and insightful interview. didn't know he had a hand in those tracks he said he produced but i believe him. it's not the first time we've heard this about dre.that's what happens when you're a big nameQuote from: Shit Lord: Victorious - DBA on February 27, 2011, 12:27:26 PMIn regards to Hello and the other song, anything is possible. Credits have been stolen before, then again it seems a lot of dudes at Aftermath take credit for shit they didn't do.but why do these former collaborators keep talking, but don't file a lawsuit? it makes them look like jealous ex girlfriends