How factual is this statement "Kanye is a producer. Jay Z is a rapper."

[Sccit]

well, yea, kanye started off as a producer. he's like a dr. dre with a lot less talent. do ur friends argue that dre is a rapper? kanye and dre are rappers in the same sense. they're producers first and foremost and rappers second...i guess thats the best way 2 put it.

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

well, yea, kanye started off as a producer. he's like a dr. dre with a lot less talent. do ur friends argue that dre is a rapper? kanye and dre are rappers in the same sense. they're producers first and foremost and rappers second...i guess thats the best way 2 put it.

word... he's a far less talented version of Dre.  He even said that "XXxplosive" was basically the whole inspiration and idea behind what he does as a producer

[Sccit]

well, yea, kanye started off as a producer. he's like a dr. dre with a lot less talent. do ur friends argue that dre is a rapper? kanye and dre are rappers in the same sense. they're producers first and foremost and rappers second...i guess thats the best way 2 put it.

word... he's a far less talented version of Dre.  He even said that "XXxplosive" was basically the whole inspiration and idea behind what he does as a producer

funny, because "xxplosive" is nothin like his style...in fact i dont think ive ever heard a kanye beat that sounds dre influenced.

[Triple OG Rapsodie]

well, yea, kanye started off as a producer. he's like a dr. dre with a lot less talent. do ur friends argue that dre is a rapper? kanye and dre are rappers in the same sense. they're producers first and foremost and rappers second...i guess thats the best way 2 put it.

Dre doesn't even write his own rhymes.

[PLANT]

hes a producer and a rapper.  there are a lot of kanye songs where he isnt the producer as well.  so yeah, he is both.

[Tanjential]

well, yea, kanye started off as a producer. he's like a dr. dre with a lot less talent. do ur friends argue that dre is a rapper? kanye and dre are rappers in the same sense. they're producers first and foremost and rappers second...i guess thats the best way 2 put it.

I agree with this but I recognize the points presented by others that contest this view.

Muhfukka: I agree that the 'slumber party' shit is like some shit little giggly middle schoolers do, and not a piece of art I should be using to anoint a lackluster or second tier performer with yet another professional title.

and the average person, and maybe this is just the cats I've talked to in Cali, where I live, knows Dre for pop songs like G Thang and stuff from '2001'. They don't know he made those or any other beats. Just my observations.


sure, you can make an argument for Snoop as an actor. But let's just admit that when we do that, we're casting a pretty wide net, yeah?

-T

[Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation)]

so... is Will Smith a rapper or actor?