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Both jay and stoc.man said it was lies and that the bitch is a nut.
Most people don't seem to understand how common something like this is in the business of art. Historically, one guy gets all the credit while a whole bunch of guys do the work. Michelangelo didn't paint the chapel alone. He had a team. He did the main parts but I'm willing to bet there some great stuff on that celing credited tohim done by another guy. Major novelists would work in groups to.Film recaptures this basic idea the best. Look at Saving Private Ryan. Robert Hodat wrote the story, Janusz Kamiński set up the shots and pictures, John Williams wrote the music, Tom Hanks acted out the role. But in the end it'll be remembered as another masterpiece by Stephen Spielberg. can anyone actually pinpoint what was thought of and created by Spielberg? Or what was just given the okay by Spielberg, or better yet, what was rejected by Spielberg but forced in by the studio if another executive producer.No one can actually know for sure. So if it come out that Nas had a great idea for an album (great meaning accepting consensus. I haven't listen to a Nas album in 10 years), but he needed help to finish it, I don't have a problem with that.
Quote from: Shallow on August 20, 2012, 07:50:12 AMMost people don't seem to understand how common something like this is in the business of art. Historically, one guy gets all the credit while a whole bunch of guys do the work. Michelangelo didn't paint the chapel alone. He had a team. He did the main parts but I'm willing to bet there some great stuff on that celing credited tohim done by another guy. Major novelists would work in groups to.Film recaptures this basic idea the best. Look at Saving Private Ryan. Robert Hodat wrote the story, Janusz Kamiński set up the shots and pictures, John Williams wrote the music, Tom Hanks acted out the role. But in the end it'll be remembered as another masterpiece by Stephen Spielberg. can anyone actually pinpoint what was thought of and created by Spielberg? Or what was just given the okay by Spielberg, or better yet, what was rejected by Spielberg but forced in by the studio if another executive producer.No one can actually know for sure. So if it come out that Nas had a great idea for an album (great meaning accepting consensus. I haven't listen to a Nas album in 10 years), but he needed help to finish it, I don't have a problem with that.great point,all of those guys got their share of the credit for their involvemtn in the film (Saving priveat ryan that u mentioend), but Spielberg directed it so obviously he desrves the headliner, unlike say, the composer who were obvioulsy involved in the film to create the music n nothin else
Quote from: Super Saiyan Mike Madsen on August 20, 2012, 12:45:20 PMQuote from: Shallow on August 20, 2012, 07:50:12 AMMost people don't seem to understand how common something like this is in the business of art. Historically, one guy gets all the credit while a whole bunch of guys do the work. Michelangelo didn't paint the chapel alone. He had a team. He did the main parts but I'm willing to bet there some great stuff on that celing credited tohim done by another guy. Major novelists would work in groups to.Film recaptures this basic idea the best. Look at Saving Private Ryan. Robert Hodat wrote the story, Janusz Kamiński set up the shots and pictures, John Williams wrote the music, Tom Hanks acted out the role. But in the end it'll be remembered as another masterpiece by Stephen Spielberg. can anyone actually pinpoint what was thought of and created by Spielberg? Or what was just given the okay by Spielberg, or better yet, what was rejected by Spielberg but forced in by the studio if another executive producer.No one can actually know for sure. So if it come out that Nas had a great idea for an album (great meaning accepting consensus. I haven't listen to a Nas album in 10 years), but he needed help to finish it, I don't have a problem with that.great point,all of those guys got their share of the credit for their involvemtn in the film (Saving priveat ryan that u mentioend), but Spielberg directed it so obviously he desrves the headliner, unlike say, the composer who were obvioulsy involved in the film to create the music n nothin elseLMFAO
On top of all that, he ghost wrote Will Smith's album, so he took part in ghost writing as well. If he used ghost writers on Untitled, I don't think less of him. It's not like he's Eazy E who couldn't put a song together for his debut album. And if Jay uses ghost writers at this point of his career, that's nothing to be ashamed of either. I don't knock Snoop for doing in towards the end of his career. Once you reach a certain level, you can get away with it.
Quote from: M Dogg on August 20, 2012, 01:45:58 PMOn top of all that, he ghost wrote Will Smith's album, so he took part in ghost writing as well. If he used ghost writers on Untitled, I don't think less of him. It's not like he's Eazy E who couldn't put a song together for his debut album. And if Jay uses ghost writers at this point of his career, that's nothing to be ashamed of either. I don't knock Snoop for doing in towards the end of his career. Once you reach a certain level, you can get away with it. I think Nas doing it is gonna hurt some (self proclaimed) hiphop headz™People wanna believe artists like Nas are on some untouchable genius shit. By using ghost writers its like a chink in the armour of hiphops foundation.
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I don't knock Snoop for doing in towards the end of his career.
Quote from: M Dogg on August 20, 2012, 01:45:58 PMI don't knock Snoop for doing in towards the end of his career.snoop did it in the beginning, as well
Quote from: NIKCC on August 21, 2012, 12:05:56 PMQuote from: M Dogg on August 20, 2012, 01:45:58 PMI don't knock Snoop for doing in towards the end of his career.snoop did it in the beginning, as wellcorrect.
Quote from: rayallen0 on August 20, 2012, 10:37:47 AMBoth jay and stoc.man said it was lies and that the bitch is a nut.stoc.man ?