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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2013, 04:26:39 PM »
I dont see how it was immature for someone to defend themselves when a person approaches them after profiling them as a 'hood' or 'thug' and initiates an altercation. This never happens if Zimmerman doesnt follow this kid. If you are on neighborhood watch, u watch out for crimes, not fir anyone walking down the street, what after a certain time in the night u cant walk down the street?

And what else was Trayvon suppose to do, run away? U run away, it makes it look like u did something wrong and he obviously didnt so he 'stood his ground' like the defense claims Zimmerman did, except Zimmerman had to use a gun

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2013, 05:02:37 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.

Cant tell if youre a troll or legitimately dont get it.

If youre "the innocent scared child" you gtf outta there especially when youre next to your destination.

If you have the mindset of a thug or tough guy, you start a physical fight.

Race has nothing to do with it until people like you interject it.

Get off the media talking points, man, seriously.  It makes you look dumb.

Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about privilege, and not white privilege because Zimmerman is brown. But the public for some reason feels Martin deserved to die because he didn't act like a scared kid. That's wrong.

whats wrong is you acting like theres no middle ground between starting a fight by throwing a punch and running away

the guy beat him literally into the ground with no physical provocation
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2013, 05:04:49 PM »
It's not a fight if the one guy has barely a mark on him and the other has lacerations on his head, how many more blows like that do you think the head can withstand?

Pull another one M Dogg, a fight gives the notion of some kind of to and fro, what has been described was not a fight, it was a brutal unrelenting beating.

 Brutal? Really, ever been in a fight? I've won fights and looked as bad as Zimmerman. Dude got his ass kicked, does that mean Martin deserved to die? Because he can win a fight?

1.  All that forensic stuff you brought up, how much of it was introduced into court?

2.  If youre getting youre head beat into the ground literally and face broken literally (facts) then you dont think its a reasonable assumption to believe the guy beating the fuck outta you isnt gonna stop until youre dead or unconscious?   

1. Hardly any, which is why MANY law experiences feel the prosecution sucked. The jury did nothing wrong, the courts did nothing wrong.

2. Those aren't facts. Zimmerman's head wasn't close to concrete and he could have verbally said, "I give up."

1.  if its so easy to prove on an internet forum it wouldve been in the prosecutions case, no doubt

2.  they are facts.  how'd he get that gash on his head?  and if you think saying "I quit" would stop someone thats on top of you beating you, then youve never been in a fight.
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2013, 05:08:28 PM »

You are so full of it M Dogg, Zimmerman was screaming for help, at ANY time Trayvon had "won" the fight, could have left his beaten ass on the floor and ran, he reached for his gun in desperation no doubt, in fear of his life.

exactly

nothing really proved that trayvon reached for the gun, but it doesnt disprove either

and the situation would suggest that he probably did reach, why would this guy shoot someone maliciously then go to the cops and admit it and tell the whole story if he was in a "murderous" rage 
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #79 on: July 15, 2013, 06:34:03 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.

Cant tell if youre a troll or legitimately dont get it.

If youre "the innocent scared child" you gtf outta there especially when youre next to your destination.

If you have the mindset of a thug or tough guy, you start a physical fight.

Race has nothing to do with it until people like you interject it.

Get off the media talking points, man, seriously.  It makes you look dumb.

Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about privilege, and not white privilege because Zimmerman is brown. But the public for some reason feels Martin deserved to die because he didn't act like a scared kid. That's wrong.

whats wrong is you acting like theres no middle ground between starting a fight by throwing a punch and running away

the guy beat him literally into the ground with no physical provocation

I personally think zimmerman pulled the gun out right when trayvon asked him if he had a problem .
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #80 on: July 15, 2013, 06:46:48 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.

Cant tell if youre a troll or legitimately dont get it.

If youre "the innocent scared child" you gtf outta there especially when youre next to your destination.

If you have the mindset of a thug or tough guy, you start a physical fight.

Race has nothing to do with it until people like you interject it.

Get off the media talking points, man, seriously.  It makes you look dumb.

Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about privilege, and not white privilege because Zimmerman is brown. But the public for some reason feels Martin deserved to die because he didn't act like a scared kid. That's wrong.

whats wrong is you acting like theres no middle ground between starting a fight by throwing a punch and running away

the guy beat him literally into the ground with no physical provocation

Is that based on eyewitness accounts?
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #81 on: July 15, 2013, 07:31:16 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.

Cant tell if youre a troll or legitimately dont get it.

If youre "the innocent scared child" you gtf outta there especially when youre next to your destination.

If you have the mindset of a thug or tough guy, you start a physical fight.

Race has nothing to do with it until people like you interject it.

Get off the media talking points, man, seriously.  It makes you look dumb.

Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about privilege, and not white privilege because Zimmerman is brown. But the public for some reason feels Martin deserved to die because he didn't act like a scared kid. That's wrong.

whats wrong is you acting like theres no middle ground between starting a fight by throwing a punch and running away

the guy beat him literally into the ground with no physical provocation

Is that based on eyewitness accounts?

yes there was a defense witness that said zimmerman was on the ground with martin beating him

the provocation part, no no one saw this
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #82 on: July 15, 2013, 07:32:11 PM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.

Cant tell if youre a troll or legitimately dont get it.

If youre "the innocent scared child" you gtf outta there especially when youre next to your destination.

If you have the mindset of a thug or tough guy, you start a physical fight.

Race has nothing to do with it until people like you interject it.

Get off the media talking points, man, seriously.  It makes you look dumb.

Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about privilege, and not white privilege because Zimmerman is brown. But the public for some reason feels Martin deserved to die because he didn't act like a scared kid. That's wrong.

whats wrong is you acting like theres no middle ground between starting a fight by throwing a punch and running away

the guy beat him literally into the ground with no physical provocation

Is that based on eyewitness accounts?

yes there was a defense witness that said zimmerman was on the ground with martin beating him

the provocation part, no no one saw this

Don't really get how you can conclusively say there was no physical provocation then...
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #83 on: July 15, 2013, 10:33:27 PM »
LMAO at lean or weed making you violent... GTFO y'all are reaching

I don't think anyone said anything about weed making someone violent.  Weed actually makes you more peaceful.  I don't know shit about "lean" or "drank", I just read some shit that skittles and Arizona Ice Tea are one way to make it.  I mean do you really walk that far in the rain just for some damn skittles?
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2013, 11:27:26 PM »
SO INFINITE, U THINK ZIMMERMAN WAS RIGHT IN KILLING DUDE?

I don't know.
 
My opinion is that we have courts for a reason, so that people don't just get lynched by an angry mob in an emotional frenzy.  You have a jury that divorces themselves from emotions, and sits and looks at the facts and evidence regarding the case.  Then, they only send a person to prison if the prosecution can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they committed murder.  I trust the judgement of the jurors in this case more than my own judgement as they were there and saw the evidence and they know more about the case then I do.

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2013, 11:30:36 PM »


I personally think zimmerman pulled the gun out right when trayvon asked him if he had a problem .


That may be true homie but there's no evidence to support that in court.
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2013, 11:54:10 PM »

I personally think zimmerman pulled the gun out right when trayvon asked him if he had a problem .


True, didn't think of that.
 

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2013, 03:28:56 AM »
I see a lot of false and insensitive shit bein' said in this thread that boy lost his life because Zimmerman acted in ignorance and not self defense and his parents lost a son. picture your kid(s) or yourself bein' murdered. would you think you or your child's killer would be justified then ?

What false shit?  Be specific.

Insensitive?  The truth is often inconvenient, but I am open to hearing your retort to what myself and others have clearly said about this case here in this thread.

If it was my child?  I hope i wouldve taught him enough sense to not put himself in the position that trayvon did.  trayvon couldve left just as easily as zimmerman.  zimmerman was doing his job and trayvon picked a petty fight over it.  and he lost his life.  he probably thought fighting was cool and a good way to release stress, like a lot of immature people do, and he paid the ultimate price for it.

but, i digress.

again, please feel free to point out what was false about anything ive said, or anyone else you are so obviously calling a liar here.

Exactly my point, people think that people of color always need to be non violent.

Cant tell if youre a troll or legitimately dont get it.

If youre "the innocent scared child" you gtf outta there especially when youre next to your destination.

If you have the mindset of a thug or tough guy, you start a physical fight.

Race has nothing to do with it until people like you interject it.

Get off the media talking points, man, seriously.  It makes you look dumb.

Race has nothing to do with it, it's all about privilege, and not white privilege because Zimmerman is brown. But the public for some reason feels Martin deserved to die because he didn't act like a scared kid. That's wrong.

whats wrong is you acting like theres no middle ground between starting a fight by throwing a punch and running away

the guy beat him literally into the ground with no physical provocation

Is that based on eyewitness accounts?

yes there was a defense witness that said zimmerman was on the ground with martin beating him

the provocation part, no no one saw this

Don't really get how you can conclusively say there was no physical provocation then...

Cause he's as biased as the people that wanna make an innocent child out of a (maybe) pretty rough adolescent. That's why I don't get involved in this BS. Practically nobody is capable of a impartial and objective dicussion.

Of course, the verdict for Zimmerman must be not guilty if they can't prove the opposite. But you gotta be a nutjob if you're following around "suspicious" people with a gun on you when the cops told you not to. And no matter what Trayvon Martin might have done on another occasion, he is dead and Zimmerman has to go through all this shit right now (including having taken a life!) just because he's a pathetic wannabe.

I don't even care if shooting in that situation was  justified, it very well might have been. But the mindstate you gotta be in to act like he did beforehand is scary. That people don't find it strange/suspect, that he was running around with a gun playing police, that is scary.
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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2013, 03:43:56 AM »


Of course, the verdict for Zimmerman must be not guilty if they can't prove the opposite. But you gotta be a nutjob if you're following around "suspicious" people with a gun on you when the cops told you not to. And no matter what Trayvon Martin might have done on another occasion, he is dead and Zimmerman has to go through all this shit right now (including having taken a life!) just because he's a pathetic wannabe.

I don't even care if shooting in that situation was  justified, it very well might have been. But the mindstate you gotta be in to act like he did beforehand is scary. That people don't find it strange/suspect, that he was running around with a gun playing police, that is scary.

I was with you the whole time Fraxxx until you said "running around with a gun playing police", because he's a neighborhood watch, that's his job.

What bothers me with this case is how people blew up this minor incident. Of course it's sad and all, but it happens everyday everywhere. Just because the media blew this up you have people crying, devastated and shit when they don't know what happened for sure (they're just "assuming") and that doesn't affect their lives in the slightest, you have shit 10x more important happening everyday, likely to affect everybody's lives in a much worse way and yet people are yelling "justice for trayvon". In the end two lives are ruined because of this bs, Trayvon Martin's and Zimmerman's. The only thing we know for sure is that he did kill Trayvon but there are things we'll never know. But Zimmerman's life is already ruined, too.

I don't know all the specifics in this case but getting away with killing someone without a conviction seems rather strange to me. He should at least have been charged with manslaughter and sentenced to prison because there's one thing for sure, he did kill Trayvon Martin.

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Re: All Things Trayvon Martin
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2013, 08:28:27 AM »
Meanwhile in Washington while you guys waste your time talking about a murder, the same as the other thousand everyday.....

http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2013/07/02/15/32/1bGOlG.So.56.pdf

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