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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2015, 08:12:26 AM »
Having Pac perform Hail Mary in "1993" was retarded. I guess they think most people don't know the details of Pac's life well enough to catch it, but they might be wrong. Pac has a lot of die-hard fans, more than any other rapper.

They should have shown Pac recording an AEOM song in the studio like Ambitionz as a Ridah or How Do U Want It. That would have been a slightly more logical prelude to California Love. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2015, 08:39:00 AM »
Another flaw in the otherwise excellent movie was the portrayal of Dr. Dre. To me, that dude behaved nothing like Dre. He portrayed him as like an innocent, likable, sociable, good-guy. But we all know the truth about Dre. He's an awkward, anti-social guy, probably a closet homosexual, who never seemed comfortable on stage or in front of a camera. His body language always made him seem kinda evil and sadistic to me too. I would bet that when he was on good terms with Suge, he enjoyed taking part in the beatdowns of various people.

Speaking of beatdowns, what's the real story about Suge beating up Eazy E? I never knew much about this, but I found it hard to believe that Eazy got beat up and then did nothing in retaliation because Jerry Heller convinced him to be the bigger man.

I don't know the truth of what went down, but I will say that the scene of Suge and his homies beating up Eazy made me really think Suge is a piece of a shit. What kind of dude needs a group to beat up a guy who is 2 feet shorter? The movie definitely made Suge out to be a hateful bitch.
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Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2015, 09:10:12 AM »
The inconsistencies were results of lack of details. Down to Eazy E wearing a White Sox hat in 1986. Those little details make it seem like they didn't care. I have heard great things overall about the movie though, so I look forward to seeing it.

The NWA reunion, Eazy I guess really wanted to do it, but him and Dre were really beefing back then. I think had Eazy not gotten HIV though, once he dropped Suge and Eazy dropped Heller, then in 1996 we could have gotten more serious about it. Yella has mentioned that he really wanted to do NWA again. Sadly, one year after he died, Dre dropped Suge and it might have been a reality.

The whole Dee Barnes situation I think should have been covered, also Dre and Michel'le fighting. It's a big reason why Suge was able to get with Michel'le, because he told her a man should never hit a woman. Then of course Suge sent her to the hospital, which was fucked up. But I know because of time things got cut, and I am assuming they want to show Dre in a better light.

My thing, maybe they can spin this to a Rise and Fall of Death Row biopic. I think people would love that. Get more detailed there and go over Ruthless vs. Death Row.
 

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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2015, 10:54:07 AM »
From what I remember Eazy and Cube ran into each other and briefly talked about a reunion. Eazy didn't want Dre involved but Cube told him he'd only do it if all the original 5 was there.

Eazy and Dre never got a chance to speak about it and probably never would have.

No, I remember hearing about the phone call with Dr. Dre before.

I would have liked if they went into the D.O.C.'s part in writing the lyrics, especially after Cube left the group. He was there but they glossed over that entirely. I do like how they showed him drunk in the studio talking shit.
 

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Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2015, 11:16:44 AM »
Dr Dre's alleged assault of Dee Barnes appeared in an early script for Straight Outta Compton

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a664397/dr-dres-alleged-assault-of-dee-barnes-appeared-in-an-early-script-for-straight-outta-compton.html#~plTQtTruMn59mr

Hip-hop journalist Dee Barnes has criticized the N.W.A biopic Straight Outta Compton for omitting any mention of Dr. Dre's 1991 altercation with her.  Dre pleaded no contest to misdemeanor battery in the incident and later settled a civil suit brought by Barnes.  But it turns out that the infamous incident was in the movie's original script.

The Los Angeles Times reports that Jonathan Herman's original screenplay include the scene.  Quoting from the screenplay, the paper describes a scene in which Dre, "eyes glazed, drunk, with an edge of nastiness, contempt," confronts Barnes verbally. Things escalate to the point where he begins “flinging her around like a rag-doll, while she screams, cries, begs for him to stop.”

According to the paper, the original script was 150 pages and the film's original cut was three and a half hours long, and the scene involving the attack on Barnes was just one of several that were excised from the finished picture.  Other scenes that didn't make the film were ones in which Dre is shot four times in the leg, another where his house catches fire during a party and a flashback of his younger brother's death in a fight.

On Tuesday Gawker published a long piece in which Barnes recalled the attack and criticized the film for its omission saying, "I didn't want to see a depiction of me getting beat up," but calling the film a work of "revisionist history."



lets hope some of this shit makes the directors cut

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Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2015, 11:19:04 AM »
Another flaw in the otherwise excellent movie was the portrayal of Dr. Dre. To me, that dude behaved nothing like Dre. He portrayed him as like an innocent, likable, sociable, good-guy. But we all know the truth about Dre. He's an awkward, anti-social guy, probably a closet homosexual, who never seemed comfortable on stage or in front of a camera. His body language always made him seem kinda evil and sadistic to me too. I would bet that when he was on good terms with Suge, he enjoyed taking part in the beatdowns of various people.

Speaking of beatdowns, what's the real story about Suge beating up Eazy E? I never knew much about this, but I found it hard to believe that Eazy got beat up and then did nothing in retaliation because Jerry Heller convinced him to be the bigger man.

I don't know the truth of what went down, but I will say that the scene of Suge and his homies beating up Eazy made me really think Suge is a piece of a shit. What kind of dude needs a group to beat up a guy who is 2 feet shorter? The movie definitely made Suge out to be a hateful bitch.

i thought dre was portrayed pretty well, they just embellished some shit, like how tough he was, but at the end of the day, it felt like dre, especially the studio scenes.......

jerry heller confirmed the eazy incident and havin to talk him outa killin suge

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Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2015, 11:54:57 AM »
The Suge/Eazy ambush didn't go down like that in the movie, Hollywood for ya.

This is a sample chapter of 'Gangsta Gangsta' from Heller's book which gives a detailed account, as Eazy told it:
https://odcom-4ff15d9323a57a01bb85817476ce615f.read.overdrive.com/

and ill throw this here -

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‘Straight Outta Compton’ Fact-Check: How True Is the Explosive N.W.A. Biopic?

The hip-hop biopic Straight Outta Compton, about the rap group N.W.A., hits theaters Friday, and contains plenty of larger-than-life moments. Here, we separate fact vs. fiction.

It took four surviving members, four writers, several scripts, one legacy-wielding widow, and nearly three decades of acrimonious history to bring the story of hip-hop legends N.W.A. to the big screen. That’s a lot of rap Rashomon to wrangle into one cohesive Hollywood biopic.

So it’s no wonder the ambitious and sprawling Straight Outta Compton plays a little fast and loose with details as it recounts the explosive rise, bitter breakup, and enduring impact of the seminal gangsta rap group behind incendiary 1988 anthems like “Gangsta Gangsta,” “Straight Outta Compton,” and “Fuck Tha Police.”

Ice Cube and Dr. Dre’s buddy F. Gary Gray (Friday, The Italian Job) directs the period biopic with an insider’s eye and a nose for emotional gut punches that key into why the story of five young men from South Central rapping about police brutality and hood unrest in 1988 still resonates today, in an era of Trayvon Martins, Michael Browns, and Sandra Blands.

And Ice Cube, who jumped on an early version of the script back in 2009, is one of Straight Outta Compton’s six producers alongside Dre and Tomica Woods-Wright, Eazy-E’s surviving wife who’d inherited Ruthless Records from him after his death in 1995. Along with a soundtrack loaded with dozens of classic cuts from the dawn of West Coast rap, the film packs plenty of N.W.A. history into a script credited to Andrea Berloff, Jonathan Herman, Alan Wenkus, and S. Leigh Savidge.

But the attempt to lionize subjects Cube, Dre, MC Ren, DJ Yella, and the late Eazy-E while vilifying its antagonists—manager Jerry Heller, Death Row Records’ Suge Knight, cops, the press—tends to give the saga of the O.G. “reality” rappers a sheen of glossy Hollywood mythmaking. Even the players that lived through all the glory, strife, beatdowns, beefs, and brotherhood didn’t necessarily have the same memories of their shared history.

    Dre witnesses Knight and his gangbanger buddies intimidating a man in his underwear with a dog in the Death Row Records offices—then leaves in protest and leads cops on a dramatic high-speed chase that ends with his arrest.

“There were things that I discovered making the movie,” Ice Cube recently told The Daily Beast. “I was discovering things about N.W.A. as I was making this movie, because [at the time] I was on my side of town going through what I was going through, and I didn’t necessarily know what they were going through until I started to interview them and research and rehearse.”

So what does Straight Outta Compton the movie get right (and romanticize) about gangsta rap’s O.G. crew?

1. IN THE MOVIE: Straight Outta Compton introduces its key players Andre Young (Dr. Dre), O’Shea Jackson (Ice Cube), and Eric Lynn Wright (Eazy-E) as South Central youngsters on their respective hustles—Dre a DJ scratching at a local club with buddy Antoine Carraby (DJ Yella), Cube a teenager writing rhymes on long bus rides to school from Compton to the Valley, Eazy slinging drugs while narrowly escaping brushes with the law. The formation of N.W.A., the film says, happens after Dre punches a guy who attacks his little brother one night. He’s arrested, Eazy bails him out of jail, and the rest is history.

IN REAL LIFE: According to recorded N.W.A. lore, Dre indeed landed in jail—but it was over unpaid tickets on his Mazda RX7. He paged Eazy to bail him out and to return the favor, agreed to produce a track for a record label Eazy wanted to start.

2. MOVIE: “Boyz-n-the-Hood,” the track that put Eazy-E on the map and started everything for Ruthless Records and N.W.A., almost didn’t happen: Ice Cube writes it for rap group H.B.O. (Home Boys Only), but the East Coasters balk at the lyrics and almost come to blows with Dre and his boys in the studio before Dre convinces Eazy to jump in the booth and give the track a stab.

REAL LIFE: New Yorkers H.B.O. recoiled at the song and walked out on the session, and into the annals of history’s forgotten MCs. Whether or not the scene went down as hilariously as in the film, which clowns them mercilessly and continues into a hilariously uncomfortable moment for non-lyricist Eazy, is unclear.
The hip-hop biopic ‘Straight Outta Compton,’ about the rap group N.W.A., hits theaters Friday, and contains plenty of larger-than-life moments. Here, we separate fact vs. fiction.

3. MOVIE: Eazy-E pacts with manager Jerry Heller after Heller hears “Boyz-n-the-Hood” and Heller pitches him on going into business together. They later form Ruthless Records and Heller lands N.W.A. a deal with Priority Records after a show in a roller rink.

REAL LIFE: In his 2007 memoir Ruthless, Heller (who was not involved with the film) remembers his meeting with Eazy going down way differently: It was Eazy who sought him out, not the other way around—and he even paid a mutual acquaintance $750 to make an introduction. The Priority deal went down the week after N.W.A. played a successful show at a local roller rink.

4. MOVIE: After signing with Priority, N.W.A. begins recording their landmark first album, Straight Outta Compton, in a Torrance, California, studio. One day they step outside, only to be brutally harassed by racist cops who hate rappers for looking like gangbangers as an outraged Heller looks on in shock.

REAL LIFE: The film conveniently dovetails this real-life incident with Dr. Dre’s personal family drama, but members of N.W.A. did get harassed by cops outside of Audio Achievements while recording Straight Outta Compton in 1987. Curiously, however, Arabian Prince—a part of the early incarnation of N.W.A. who worked on the album before slowly fading out of the group—has very little presence in the film.

5. MOVIE: At a packed 1989 show at Detroit’s Joe Louis Arena, N.W.A. is arrested for playing their controversial “Fuck Tha Police” onstage when uniformed and plainclothes cops descend from the crowd, chase the artists backstage, and handcuff them like folk hero outlaws in front of cheering fans.

REAL LIFE: The members of N.W.A. were hustled away from the arena by their security and whisked off to the safety of their hotel rooms—only to be arrested later when they sneaked down to the lobby to meet girls, according to Heller. “Around midnight, after the police riot at Joe Louis had been quelled, those same Detroit undercover cops merely strolled into the lobby of N.W.A.’ s hotel. There they found and detained Eazy, Dre, Cube, Ren, and Yella—a clean sweep.”

6. MOVIE: An increasingly disgruntled Ice Cube finally quits N.W.A. after voicing his displeasure over his contract status with Heller and Eazy.

REAL LIFE: Heller claims the group voted Cube out at the end of their first tour because of his griping about proper compensation.
[150105-most-anticipated-STRAIGHT-OUTTA]
Universal Pictures

7. MOVIE: After leaving N.W.A., Ice Cube hits back at his ex-group’s insults by issuing “No Vaseline,” one of the greatest diss tracks of all-time. The beef leads to a violent altercation when Ruthless Records artists jump Cube and his Da Lench Mob crew at the New Music Seminar.

REAL LIFE: “There’s never been a good rapper from the sixty freeway,” Cube supposedly snarked after leaving N.W.A., igniting a violent feud with members of rap group Above the Law.  

8. MOVIE: In one of N.W.A.’s most notorious interpersonal clashes, Eazy is called to meet with Dre, who wants out of his Ruthless contract so he can pact with Suge Knight’s Death Row Records. But it’s a set-up: Eazy walks into a mafia-like ambush where Knight and his goons beat him up to get him to release Dre from the label.

REAL LIFE: Dre has denied knowing of Knight’s plans that night in 1991. In his book, Heller corroborates the movie’s assertion that Eazy-E wanted to retaliate by killing Knight. He also claims that Knight wanted three Ruthless artists—Dre, D.O.C., and Dre’s girlfriend Michel’le (whom Knight later married)—released from their contracts so they could sign with Knight and Sony. A lawsuit against Dre, Knight, and Sony was later settled out of court.

9. MOVIE: Dre witnesses Knight and his gangbanger buddies intimidating a man in his underwear with a dog in the Death Row Records offices—then leaves in protest and leads cops on a dramatic high-speed chase that ends with his arrest.

REAL LIFE: Dre told The Hollywood Reporter that the scene really happened: “I was like, ‘What the f— is going on?’ I was ready to leave anyways. This was the extra push. The guy in the underwear—all this shit actually happened.” As for the arrest, Dre was sentenced to eight months in prison for drunk-driving his Ferrari through Beverly Hills in the late-night, 90-mph chase. Meanwhile, conspicuously absent from Straight Outta Compton is any attention paid to Dr. Dre’s most famous and controversial case: His violent assault of MTV personality Dee Barnes. An ensuing $22 million lawsuit was later settled out of court, and Dre unapologetically immortalized the attack in Eminem's 1999 single “Guilty Conscience.”

10. MOVIE: After being diagnosed with AIDS and hospitalized, Eazy is visited by former bandmate Dr. Dre. Ice Cube arrives to see him too, but can’t bring himself to enter Eazy’s room.

REAL LIFE: DJ Yella, who along with MC Ren was a consultant on the film, remained close to Eazy throughout the post-N.W.A. breakup beefing that saw Cube, Eazy, and Dre slinging insult tracks at one another. Yella was also the only member of N.W.A. to attend Eazy’s funeral.

Speaking to journalists this weekend in Beverly Hills, Straight Outta Compton producer Ice Cube acknowledged that the film is an expression of what N.W.A. lived through. “The record is real life moving at the speed of real life; this is a movie that looks back and is a piece of art,” he said.  

“And if you don’t like the movie,” he joked, “you can kill yourself.”
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Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2015, 11:56:51 AM »
Another flaw in the otherwise excellent movie was the portrayal of Dr. Dre. To me, that dude behaved nothing like Dre. He portrayed him as like an innocent, likable, sociable, good-guy. But we all know the truth about Dre. He's an awkward, anti-social guy, probably a closet homosexual, who never seemed comfortable on stage or in front of a camera. His body language always made him seem kinda evil and sadistic to me too. I would bet that when he was on good terms with Suge, he enjoyed taking part in the beatdowns of various people.

Speaking of beatdowns, what's the real story about Suge beating up Eazy E? I never knew much about this, but I found it hard to believe that Eazy got beat up and then did nothing in retaliation because Jerry Heller convinced him to be the bigger man.

I don't know the truth of what went down, but I will say that the scene of Suge and his homies beating up Eazy made me really think Suge is a piece of a shit. What kind of dude needs a group to beat up a guy who is 2 feet shorter? The movie definitely made Suge out to be a hateful bitch.

i thought dre was portrayed pretty well, they just embellished some shit, like how tough he was, but at the end of the day, it felt like dre, especially the studio scenes.......

jerry heller confirmed the eazy incident and havin to talk him outa killin suge

He probably was that tough. We know he beat on women, he probably got into shit with dudes as well. He was Suge's star act and he owned half the label so he could probably get away with that.

 

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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2015, 12:40:33 PM »
The Suge/Eazy ambush didn't go down like that in the movie, Hollywood for ya.

This is a sample from Heller's book which gives a detailed account, as Eazy told it:

https://odcom-4ff15d9323a57a01bb85817476ce615f.read.overdrive.com/

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Quote
‘Straight Outta Compton’ Fact-Check: How True Is the Explosive N.W.A. Biopic?

The hip-hop biopic Straight Outta Compton, about the rap group N.W.A., hits theaters Friday, and contains plenty of larger-than-life moments. Here, we separate fact vs. fiction.

It took four surviving members, four writers, several scripts, one legacy-wielding widow, and nearly three decades of acrimonious history to bring the story of hip-hop legends N.W.A. to the big screen. That’s a lot of rap Rashomon to wrangle into one cohesive Hollywood biopic.

So it’s no wonder the ambitious and sprawling Straight Outta Compton plays a little fast and loose with details as it recounts the explosive rise, bitter breakup, and enduring impact of the seminal gangsta rap group behind incendiary 1988 anthems like “Gangsta Gangsta,” “Straight Outta Compton,” and “Fuck Tha Police.”

Ice Cube and Dr. Dre’s buddy F. Gary Gray (Friday, The Italian Job) directs the period biopic with an insider’s eye and a nose for emotional gut punches that key into why the story of five young men from South Central rapping about police brutality and hood unrest in 1988 still resonates today, in an era of Trayvon Martins, Michael Browns, and Sandra Blands.

And Ice Cube, who jumped on an early version of the script back in 2009, is one of Straight Outta Compton’s six producers alongside Dre and Tomica Woods-Wright, Eazy-E’s surviving wife who’d inherited Ruthless Records from him after his death in 1995. Along with a soundtrack loaded with dozens of classic cuts from the dawn of West Coast rap, the film packs plenty of N.W.A. history into a script credited to Andrea Berloff, Jonathan Herman, Alan Wenkus, and S. Leigh Savidge.

But the attempt to lionize subjects Cube, Dre, MC Ren, DJ Yella, and the late Eazy-E while vilifying its antagonists—manager Jerry Heller, Death Row Records’ Suge Knight, cops, the press—tends to give the saga of the O.G. “reality” rappers a sheen of glossy Hollywood mythmaking. Even the players that lived through all the glory, strife, beatdowns, beefs, and brotherhood didn’t necessarily have the same memories of their shared history.

    Dre witnesses Knight and his gangbanger buddies intimidating a man in his underwear with a dog in the Death Row Records offices—then leaves in protest and leads cops on a dramatic high-speed chase that ends with his arrest.

“There were things that I discovered making the movie,” Ice Cube recently told The Daily Beast. “I was discovering things about N.W.A. as I was making this movie, because [at the time] I was on my side of town going through what I was going through, and I didn’t necessarily know what they were going through until I started to interview them and research and rehearse.”

So what does Straight Outta Compton the movie get right (and romanticize) about gangsta rap’s O.G. crew?

1. IN THE MOVIE: Straight Outta Compton introduces its key players Andre Young (Dr. Dre), O’Shea Jackson (Ice Cube), and Eric Lynn Wright (Eazy-E) as South Central youngsters on their respective hustles—Dre a DJ scratching at a local club with buddy Antoine Carraby (DJ Yella), Cube a teenager writing rhymes on long bus rides to school from Compton to the Valley, Eazy slinging drugs while narrowly escaping brushes with the law. The formation of N.W.A., the film says, happens after Dre punches a guy who attacks his little brother one night. He’s arrested, Eazy bails him out of jail, and the rest is history.

IN REAL LIFE: According to recorded N.W.A. lore, Dre indeed landed in jail—but it was over unpaid tickets on his Mazda RX7. He paged Eazy to bail him out and to return the favor, agreed to produce a track for a record label Eazy wanted to start.

2. MOVIE: “Boyz-n-the-Hood,” the track that put Eazy-E on the map and started everything for Ruthless Records and N.W.A., almost didn’t happen: Ice Cube writes it for rap group H.B.O. (Home Boys Only), but the East Coasters balk at the lyrics and almost come to blows with Dre and his boys in the studio before Dre convinces Eazy to jump in the booth and give the track a stab.

REAL LIFE: New Yorkers H.B.O. recoiled at the song and walked out on the session, and into the annals of history’s forgotten MCs. Whether or not the scene went down as hilariously as in the film, which clowns them mercilessly and continues into a hilariously uncomfortable moment for non-lyricist Eazy, is unclear.
The hip-hop biopic ‘Straight Outta Compton,’ about the rap group N.W.A., hits theaters Friday, and contains plenty of larger-than-life moments. Here, we separate fact vs. fiction.

3. MOVIE: Eazy-E pacts with manager Jerry Heller after Heller hears “Boyz-n-the-Hood” and Heller pitches him on going into business together. They later form Ruthless Records and Heller lands N.W.A. a deal with Priority Records after a show in a roller rink.

REAL LIFE: In his 2007 memoir Ruthless, Heller (who was not involved with the film) remembers his meeting with Eazy going down way differently: It was Eazy who sought him out, not the other way around—and he even paid a mutual acquaintance $750 to make an introduction. The Priority deal went down the week after N.W.A. played a successful show at a local roller rink.

4. MOVIE: After signing with Priority, N.W.A. begins recording their landmark first album, Straight Outta Compton, in a Torrance, California, studio. One day they step outside, only to be brutally harassed by racist cops who hate rappers for looking like gangbangers as an outraged Heller looks on in shock.

REAL LIFE: The film conveniently dovetails this real-life incident with Dr. Dre’s personal family drama, but members of N.W.A. did get harassed by cops outside of Audio Achievements while recording Straight Outta Compton in 1987. Curiously, however, Arabian Prince—a part of the early incarnation of N.W.A. who worked on the album before slowly fading out of the group—has very little presence in the film.

5. MOVIE: At a packed 1989 show at Detroit’s Joe Louis Arena, N.W.A. is arrested for playing their controversial “Fuck Tha Police” onstage when uniformed and plainclothes cops descend from the crowd, chase the artists backstage, and handcuff them like folk hero outlaws in front of cheering fans.

REAL LIFE: The members of N.W.A. were hustled away from the arena by their security and whisked off to the safety of their hotel rooms—only to be arrested later when they sneaked down to the lobby to meet girls, according to Heller. “Around midnight, after the police riot at Joe Louis had been quelled, those same Detroit undercover cops merely strolled into the lobby of N.W.A.’ s hotel. There they found and detained Eazy, Dre, Cube, Ren, and Yella—a clean sweep.”

6. MOVIE: An increasingly disgruntled Ice Cube finally quits N.W.A. after voicing his displeasure over his contract status with Heller and Eazy.

REAL LIFE: Heller claims the group voted Cube out at the end of their first tour because of his griping about proper compensation.
[150105-most-anticipated-STRAIGHT-OUTTA]
Universal Pictures

7. MOVIE: After leaving N.W.A., Ice Cube hits back at his ex-group’s insults by issuing “No Vaseline,” one of the greatest diss tracks of all-time. The beef leads to a violent altercation when Ruthless Records artists jump Cube and his Da Lench Mob crew at the New Music Seminar.

REAL LIFE: “There’s never been a good rapper from the sixty freeway,” Cube supposedly snarked after leaving N.W.A., igniting a violent feud with members of rap group Above the Law. 

8. MOVIE: In one of N.W.A.’s most notorious interpersonal clashes, Eazy is called to meet with Dre, who wants out of his Ruthless contract so he can pact with Suge Knight’s Death Row Records. But it’s a set-up: Eazy walks into a mafia-like ambush where Knight and his goons beat him up to get him to release Dre from the label.

REAL LIFE: Dre has denied knowing of Knight’s plans that night in 1991. In his book, Heller corroborates the movie’s assertion that Eazy-E wanted to retaliate by killing Knight. He also claims that Knight wanted three Ruthless artists—Dre, D.O.C., and Dre’s girlfriend Michel’le (whom Knight later married)—released from their contracts so they could sign with Knight and Sony. A lawsuit against Dre, Knight, and Sony was later settled out of court.

9. MOVIE: Dre witnesses Knight and his gangbanger buddies intimidating a man in his underwear with a dog in the Death Row Records offices—then leaves in protest and leads cops on a dramatic high-speed chase that ends with his arrest.

REAL LIFE: Dre told The Hollywood Reporter that the scene really happened: “I was like, ‘What the f— is going on?’ I was ready to leave anyways. This was the extra push. The guy in the underwear—all this shit actually happened.” As for the arrest, Dre was sentenced to eight months in prison for drunk-driving his Ferrari through Beverly Hills in the late-night, 90-mph chase. Meanwhile, conspicuously absent from Straight Outta Compton is any attention paid to Dr. Dre’s most famous and controversial case: His violent assault of MTV personality Dee Barnes. An ensuing $22 million lawsuit was later settled out of court, and Dre unapologetically immortalized the attack in Eminem's 1999 single “Guilty Conscience.”

10. MOVIE: After being diagnosed with AIDS and hospitalized, Eazy is visited by former bandmate Dr. Dre. Ice Cube arrives to see him too, but can’t bring himself to enter Eazy’s room.

REAL LIFE: DJ Yella, who along with MC Ren was a consultant on the film, remained close to Eazy throughout the post-N.W.A. breakup beefing that saw Cube, Eazy, and Dre slinging insult tracks at one another. Yella was also the only member of N.W.A. to attend Eazy’s funeral.

Speaking to journalists this weekend in Beverly Hills, Straight Outta Compton producer Ice Cube acknowledged that the film is an expression of what N.W.A. lived through. “The record is real life moving at the speed of real life; this is a movie that looks back and is a piece of art,” he said. 

“And if you don’t like the movie,” he joked, “you can kill yourself.”

Yella tells it a little bit different than this... and he seems the most reasonable sounding in all of this...

Like #6. He said Ice Cube left, but there was no hard feelings. Maybe Eazy and Jerry voted him out, but the rest of the guys didn't know why he left, but they figured he was off to do other things.

#2. It's funny when he was interviewed by DJ Vlad and Vlad asked why Ice Cube didn't do Boyz N Tha Hood because he wrote it, the beat was finished and Cube was a rapper. Yella said in all his years, he's never been asked that, and it looked like he never thought of it... LOL. Makes sense, Ice Cube would have sounded HARD on there. I also remember Ice Cube's take on it and said Eazy was struggling, and Dre told everyone to leave and they were recording for a day straight.

#7, NWA clowned on Ice Cube for ducking out the brawl with ATL. Cube never denies it either, he didn't want none. But it's why he had Da Lench Mob. He used them so he can have some protection from NWA and Ruthless.

#10, Yella talks about how Cube and Dre went to the hospital to see Eazy. Only Yella was at the funeral, but he just says everyone deals with death differently. Ren, Cube and Dre all had their beefs with Eazy at the end. There was even rumors of Ren, Dre and Cube doing an album called NWE, N****z Without Eazy. They all tried to make peace with Eazy at the end, Cube ran into him in NY earlier and I think he conformed he didn't go in the room because he just couldn't see Eazy like that. But Dre has been confirmed many times to have been a visitor, and Yella did say Cube and Dre were at the hospital.
 

kuruptDPG

Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2015, 02:02:22 PM »
has big hutch or kmg mentioned before how they jumped ice cube etc?
 

Sccit

Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #25 on: August 20, 2015, 02:38:31 PM »
Another flaw in the otherwise excellent movie was the portrayal of Dr. Dre. To me, that dude behaved nothing like Dre. He portrayed him as like an innocent, likable, sociable, good-guy. But we all know the truth about Dre. He's an awkward, anti-social guy, probably a closet homosexual, who never seemed comfortable on stage or in front of a camera. His body language always made him seem kinda evil and sadistic to me too. I would bet that when he was on good terms with Suge, he enjoyed taking part in the beatdowns of various people.

Speaking of beatdowns, what's the real story about Suge beating up Eazy E? I never knew much about this, but I found it hard to believe that Eazy got beat up and then did nothing in retaliation because Jerry Heller convinced him to be the bigger man.

I don't know the truth of what went down, but I will say that the scene of Suge and his homies beating up Eazy made me really think Suge is a piece of a shit. What kind of dude needs a group to beat up a guy who is 2 feet shorter? The movie definitely made Suge out to be a hateful bitch.

i thought dre was portrayed pretty well, they just embellished some shit, like how tough he was, but at the end of the day, it felt like dre, especially the studio scenes.......

jerry heller confirmed the eazy incident and havin to talk him outa killin suge

He probably was that tough. We know he beat on women, he probably got into shit with dudes as well. He was Suge's star act and he owned half the label so he could probably get away with that.




lol so beating on women makes u tough?

dexter

Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #26 on: August 20, 2015, 02:47:20 PM »
Dre and Eazy were discussing a reunion but there was still bad blood.  They were nowhere near as close to making it happen as the movie suggests.
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Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #27 on: August 20, 2015, 03:44:35 PM »
Another flaw in the otherwise excellent movie was the portrayal of Dr. Dre. To me, that dude behaved nothing like Dre. He portrayed him as like an innocent, likable, sociable, good-guy. But we all know the truth about Dre. He's an awkward, anti-social guy, probably a closet homosexual, who never seemed comfortable on stage or in front of a camera. His body language always made him seem kinda evil and sadistic to me too. I would bet that when he was on good terms with Suge, he enjoyed taking part in the beatdowns of various people.

Speaking of beatdowns, what's the real story about Suge beating up Eazy E? I never knew much about this, but I found it hard to believe that Eazy got beat up and then did nothing in retaliation because Jerry Heller convinced him to be the bigger man.

I don't know the truth of what went down, but I will say that the scene of Suge and his homies beating up Eazy made me really think Suge is a piece of a shit. What kind of dude needs a group to beat up a guy who is 2 feet shorter? The movie definitely made Suge out to be a hateful bitch.
Interesting.

I recently saw Dre's Big Boy interview and he came off as a killer to me. There was a part that I watched over a few times where he smiles but then catches himself and stops. I don't think he knows who he is. Like when people emulate others because their self image isn't.......It's hard to explain, you might know what I mean.
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Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2015, 08:43:26 PM »
Another flaw in the otherwise excellent movie was the portrayal of Dr. Dre. To me, that dude behaved nothing like Dre. He portrayed him as like an innocent, likable, sociable, good-guy. But we all know the truth about Dre. He's an awkward, anti-social guy, probably a closet homosexual, who never seemed comfortable on stage or in front of a camera. His body language always made him seem kinda evil and sadistic to me too. I would bet that when he was on good terms with Suge, he enjoyed taking part in the beatdowns of various people.

Speaking of beatdowns, what's the real story about Suge beating up Eazy E? I never knew much about this, but I found it hard to believe that Eazy got beat up and then did nothing in retaliation because Jerry Heller convinced him to be the bigger man.

I don't know the truth of what went down, but I will say that the scene of Suge and his homies beating up Eazy made me really think Suge is a piece of a shit. What kind of dude needs a group to beat up a guy who is 2 feet shorter? The movie definitely made Suge out to be a hateful bitch.
Interesting.

I recently saw Dre's Big Boy interview and he came off as a killer to me. There was a part that I watched over a few times where he smiles but then catches himself and stops. I don't think he knows who he is. Like when people emulate others because their self image isn't.......It's hard to explain, you might know what I mean.

I know what you mean. Dre comes off not as a tough guy, but as an unstable sociopath weirdo. He's uncomfortable in front of cameras because he's not being himself, he's being a character. 
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Sccit

Re: Straight Outta Compton - The Movie Inconsistencies (SPOILERS)
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2015, 01:01:20 AM »
yall overanalyzing the man like a mufucka....mobnigga, u know a lot of people think quik n his mannerisms are gay. at the end of the day, if u lookin that close at how another man moves and try to think what they thinkin as u watchin em, thats gay in itself.