SMH.. Even Snoop complaining he's not making money off streams?? Watch Video...

[abusive]

Still worth to release hard copys.

Stay on the westcoast:

Daz, evidence, bossolo, planet asia, dj muggs, g malone etc...

They all release cds.

Dont think they do for charity.
Dont think they are bad at bussiness.

So it has to worth to them!

I keep trying to tell them dis. They keep saying it's not much money in physicals, which might be true... Streams aren't much money either. Merch might not be much money etc. But all of those hustles start to add up. You have to get creative with your brand these days in order to make some real money but it can be done. It's being done. I bought the limited edition Nipsey Hussle record that Walmart was selling a few years back with the hope that it will be a collector's item. I'm not a fan of his music at all.

[HighEyeCue]

I haven't bought a CD in a while

but I do know the other day that I popped in my Doggfather CD from '96 to listen to some joints I like on that album and it sounded 100x better than the digital files I had on my old computer

I mean the vocals were low on some songs but thats just how it was mixed not anything to do with the CD

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

yeah you got someone now like Arraez winning consecutive batting titles and being on 3 different teams in 3 years

that would have never happened back in the day with Tony Gwynn for instance

I'm back into MLB again this year, because the Royals are good again, which doesn't happen often.

I like the new pitch clock.  I thought I'd hate it but it wasn't that bad.  I went to a game in KC in July and it flowed pretty well with the pitch clock.

Gaurdians and Royals are in a heated division race right now.  Bobbie Witt became a star since the second half of last season and the Royals locked him up to a lock term contract, I mean he is a shortstop who hits .350 with power and speed, what could be more valuable then that?  He's still behind Judge in the MVP.

The Guardians got a closer that might be the most imposing closer I've ever seen.  He throws hard and with bad intentions, if Mike Tyson was a MLB pitcher he would be this guy. 

Not sure what is going on in the rest of the league because I only really follow the Royals.  I saw Alrodis Chapman is pitching 104 MPH these days which is insane.  Royals had him last year and we were able to trade him for an All-Star starter Cole Ragans in a sweet deal.  I know out your way on the East Coast that Baltimore and the Yankees are really good they still kick the shit out of the Royals this year even with the Royals playing great ball.

We picked up Erceg, Lorenz, and a third basemen with pop Dejong at the trade deadline and we actually took over first place for one day this week !

[jman91331]

streaming is great for the fans, not so great for artists

you could argue that if someone hears enough music from a certain artist they will go and purchase some of their material

but then again who these days actually purchases physical copies and who has an outlet to listen to them

I still have my CD boom box from the early 2000s where I can listen to CDs

plus you cant beat their sound quality

I wouldn't even say it's great for the fans. It's great for the casual listeners, but for the fan, what real fan is cool with leasing music? Any real fan would want to own their music (even if it's digital copies) . Streaming just leaves everything in the label's hands so when they decide to remove songs or sometimes whole albums and we have to accept it. And for the artists, they're really at the mercy of the label and/or streaming services. Snoop's right, how would he know the actual numbers? It's basically what label and/or streaming services say it is as it's no physical  numbers to back up the data (like soundscan would be for the "old days). Then every streaming services pays differently as fas as royalties (no universal scale) then on top of that, 1500 streams equal one sale which is highway robery. Like how many albums are we going to listen to 1500 times when it's first released. You might stream strong for a good week until the new stuff drops the next week. At least when its purchased, a sale is a sale regardless how many times you listen to it. It's just all fucked up the things they are trying to force us to accept as a fan or as an artist.

[HighEyeCue]

I'm back into MLB again this year, because the Royals are good again, which doesn't happen often.

I like the new pitch clock.  I thought I'd hate it but it wasn't that bad.  I went to a game in KC in July and it flowed pretty well with the pitch clock.

Gaurdians and Royals are in a heated division race right now.  Bobbie Witt became a star since the second half of last season and the Royals locked him up to a lock term contract, I mean he is a shortstop who hits .350 with power and speed, what could be more valuable then that?  He's still behind Judge in the MVP.

The Guardians got a closer that might be the most imposing closer I've ever seen.  He throws hard and with bad intentions, if Mike Tyson was a MLB pitcher he would be this guy. 

Not sure what is going on in the rest of the league because I only really follow the Royals.  I saw Alrodis Chapman is pitching 104 MPH these days which is insane.  Royals had him last year and we were able to trade him for an All-Star starter Cole Ragans in a sweet deal.  I know out your way on the East Coast that Baltimore and the Yankees are really good they still kick the shit out of the Royals this year even with the Royals playing great ball.

We picked up Erceg, Lorenz, and a third basemen with pop Dejong at the trade deadline and we actually took over first place for one day this week !

I saw Cole Ragans pitch against the Mets earlier this season, he is definitely the truth
Bobby Witt Jr looks like he is the best SS in MLB and pretty soon might be the face of the league
Also Lugo who was a reliever with the Mets finally got his shot to start and has been having a great year

Royals have a good young team, if not this year in coming years they seem poised to win another World Series

[HighEyeCue]

I wouldn't even say it's great for the fans. It's great for the casual listeners, but for the fan, what real fan is cool with leasing music? Any real fan would want to own their music (even if it's digital copies) . Streaming just leaves everything in the label's hands so when they decide to remove songs or sometimes whole albums and we have to accept it. And for the artists, they're really at the mercy of the label and/or streaming services. Snoop's right, how would he know the actual numbers? It's basically what label and/or streaming services say it is as it's no physical  numbers to back up the data (like soundscan would be for the "old days). Then every streaming services pays differently as fas as royalties (no universal scale) then on top of that, 1500 streams equal one sale which is highway robery. Like how many albums are we going to listen to 1500 times when it's first released. You might stream strong for a good week until the new stuff drops the next week. At least when its purchased, a sale is a sale regardless how many times you listen to it. It's just all fucked up the things they are trying to force us to accept as a fan or as an artist.

I agree with everything you said

The problem is most of the young generation music fans are casuals, they have no attention span, prefer 2 minute songs and jump to the next hot artist after they get tired of their favorites
My nephew is like this, it drives me crazy

[V2DHeart]

Streaming is never going to be massively profitable if you don't have a great cut on the deal to begin with. As far as I know, Snoop only has the Death Row name leased to him, so won't be making much from his own Death Row music streaming, but could likely create 'new' music under the DR name, but wouldn't be sought after anywhere near as the reputable songs like Gin & Juice.

It would be interesting to hear how much someone like Daz gets on his

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

I saw Cole Ragans pitch against the Mets earlier this season, he is definitely the truth
Bobby Witt Jr looks like he is the best SS in MLB and pretty soon might be the face of the league
Also Lugo who was a reliever with the Mets finally got his shot to start and has been having a great year

Royals have a good young team, if not this year in coming years they seem poised to win another World Series

Lugo was practically the best pitcher in baseball first half of the year.  But like you said, he's been a reliever most of his career.  So I am afraid his arm is not used to these kind of innings, there's even some concern he might have dead arm, but they keep sending him out there.  Hope he is okay.

I think Royals actually got to go for it this year.  After we beat the Mets in the 2015 World series (remember that?) the idea was not to go for it all but to maintain continued success.  They traded away Wade Davis (the best reliever in baseball) for Jorge Soler to plan for the future.  What happened?  Jorge had one good year where he hit like 30 homeruns for a 100 loss team.

So my point is just that expecting "continued and sustained success" hasn't happened for the Royals since the days of George Brett.

[HighEyeCue]

Lugo was practically the best pitcher in baseball first half of the year.  But like you said, he's been a reliever most of his career.  So I am afraid his arm is not used to these kind of innings, there's even some concern he might have dead arm, but they keep sending him out there.  Hope he is okay.

I think Royals actually got to go for it this year.  After we beat the Mets in the 2015 World series (remember that?) the idea was not to go for it all but to maintain continued success.  They traded away Wade Davis (the best reliever in baseball) for Jorge Soler to plan for the future.  What happened?  Jorge had one good year where he hit like 30 homeruns for a 100 loss team.

So my point is just that expecting "continued and sustained success" hasn't happened for the Royals since the days of George Brett.

yeah I remember when Lugo was with the Mets he always wanted to be a starter but the Mets had capable starters that time and he never got a chance to show what he is now

I think he's pitched to most innings so far in the league like 170 something so you are right he might be a little fatigued

I wouldn't mind seeing the Royals in the World Series this year... even though they beat us in 2015 they were never a team I hated like the Yankees or our division rivals the Braves...and I know we are not making it even thought we do have a shot at the Wild Card

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

yeah I remember when Lugo was with the Mets he always wanted to be a starter but the Mets had capable starters that time and he never got a chance to show what he is now

I think he's pitched to most innings so far in the league like 170 something so you are right he might be a little fatigued

I wouldn't mind seeing the Royals in the World Series this year... even though they beat us in 2015 they were never a team I hated like the Yankees or our division rivals the Braves...and I know we are not making it even thought we do have a shot at the Wild Card

What do you remember from that 2015 series?  I remember everything from the Royals side.  But for the Mets side, I just remember there were a couple games that could have gone either way.  Your closer blew one game and then there was another game where there was some incident with the starter like he didn't want to come out of the game or something and they ended up losing.

[HighEyeCue]

What do you remember from that 2015 series?  I remember everything from the Royals side.  But for the Mets side, I just remember there were a couple games that could have gone either way.  Your closer blew one game and then there was another game where there was some incident with the starter like he didn't want to come out of the game or something and they ended up losing.

yeah Game 1 is when our closer blew the game and the series went downhill from that

Game 5 is when Harvey refused to come out of the game and our manager left him in and blew the game as well

The Royals were definitely the better team, our strength was our pitching but it was only average in the series

and the funny thing is we thought it was the start of a great pitching staff for years to come but none of these dudes amounted to anything except for Degrom who won 2 Cy Youngs in later years

[TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96']

yeah Game 1 is when our closer blew the game and the series went downhill from that

Game 5 is when Harvey refused to come out of the game and our manager left him in and blew the game as well

The Royals were definitely the better team, our strength was our pitching but it was only average in the series

and the funny thing is we thought it was the start of a great pitching staff for years to come but none of these dudes amounted to anything except for Degrom who won 2 Cy Youngs in later years

Sometimes teams don't recover well after losing in the Championship.  It seems like it either galvanizes them and they come back stronger the next year determined to win, or they sort of fall apart.  I remember the Mets being good, I still think the series could have gone either way.   I mean Game 1 is just so pivotal and they had it in the bag, I think that's the game Gordon hit that 9th inning homer; and really Gordon was never that great of an offensive player.  Your closer should have been able to finish that one. 

But ultimately when it's a 4-1 series its a decisive win for the Royals.

[HighEyeCue]

Sometimes teams don't recover well after losing in the Championship.  It seems like it either galvanizes them and they come back stronger the next year determined to win, or they sort of fall apart.  I remember the Mets being good, I still think the series could have gone either way.   I mean Game 1 is just so pivotal and they had it in the bag, I think that's the game Gordon hit that 9th inning homer; and really Gordon was never that great of an offensive player.  Your closer should have been able to finish that one. 

But ultimately when it's a 4-1 series its a decisive win for the Royals.

about our closer, I agree 100%

Familia was great all season but gave it up in the biggest game of the year...definitely changed the series...not saying the Mets would have won but it would have been longer

mightve even gone 7 games who knows

[Sccit]

Still worth to release hard copys.

Stay on the westcoast:

Daz, evidence, bossolo, planet asia, dj muggs, g malone etc...

They all release cds.

Dont think they do for charity.
Dont think they are bad at bussiness.

So it has to worth to them!

yea.. releasing cds makes money. like a few thousand dollars at most. but it’s mostly done to keep the brand afloat and poppin for shows etc….. because the money made off CD sales goes right back into the promo and marketing and then some.

[HighEyeCue]

yea.. releasing cds makes money. like a few thousand dollars at most. but it’s mostly done to keep the brand afloat and poppin for shows etc….. because the money made off CD sales goes right back into the promo and marketing and then some.

but it has to be more than streaming does because the artists are getting basically nothing when it comes to that right?