How was Dre's production on SNOOP DOGG's - MISSIONARY album?

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[Suga Foot]

So the cool thing about living in these modern times is you can listen to music for free.  Pretty much anything you want.  AND you can even form your own opinion. 

[Jay_J]

vocal production is amazing. snoop sounds really great. he sounds great and hunger after long time on a record.

music production is something new that we are not used to hear from dre actually but seems he is trying to do something new.

what i got is he wants to make productions sounds like a live jam session. most of the songs really feels like that.

the problem with producion to me there are intros, bridges and outros are missing.

i dont like a song starts with a verse, chorus, second verse, chorus and fade out. this sounds too lazy, unefortless job to me.

i would love to see some musical creativity and richness on production.

lets take it as a "practice" of dre about what he is trying to do.

[--Vance--]

Here are the samples Dre and his team flipped for this album. Most of em' are replayed by musicians as usual with Dr. Dre Production. It's quite interesting, that most samples are very well known original songs. As on Marsha's album they flipped the same samples used on classic hip hop tracks. For example J Dilla or The Alchemist already sampled the same original songs (If you are a HipHop head you will notice immediately). I guess Dre was inspired by some of them older tracks. All in all I like the musical direction of the album. It's fresh and quite different from his previous eras. To me it's an attempt to create more "live sounding" beat structures. I guess they wanted to make it sound good for concerts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hid-zQij6l0?si=eaq11Temzpn7ggNv

On the technical side of the things, it's too clinical and bright mixed for my taste, still. I can enjoy it from a distance with good speakers + Subwoofer. But I listen to music primarily in my car everyday. Unfortunately I have to eq my Car system to make it fit my taste. That was never the case before "The Contract EP" on Dre produced tracks. Even "Compton" is more balanced to me.

[Sccit]

not bad .. but for dr dre, far from his best ….. lacking in
various areas compared to his classix .. a step down from compton

[nad45]

I was really looking forward to Missionary, but honestly, it didn’t live up to the hype for me. Snoop and Dre coming back together should have been something amazing, but the album feels like it’s missing the soul and vibe that make Snoop who he is. 

The production is the biggest problem. It’s way too cold and lifeless, it doesn’t suit Snoop’s style at all. I was hoping for something more like R&G, funky, soulful beats with a modern touch, but still gangster. You can make funky music without going full G-Funk, but this album didn’t even try to capture that energy. The beats feel mechanical, like they were made for someone else entirely. 

And then there’s Snoop’s performance. It doesn’t feel natural at all. Like Georgeous, we can hear how the verses were pieced together in small chunks. It makes everything sound disjointed and stiff, which is the opposite of what Snoop is known for. His flow has always been smooth and effortless, but here it’s choppy, with too many shifts in tone that don’t feel right. Snoop even said Dre used him like a robot, and honestly, you can hear it. 

Another issue is that Snoop clearly didn’t write most of the lyrics. I know ghostwriting happens, but here it really takes away from the album. Snoop’s best work feels personal, like it’s coming straight from him. On this album, the lyrics don’t sound like him, and it reminds me of the same problem on Ego Trippin. They should’ve let Snoop write his own stuff and then just polished it up. At least that way it would still feel like Snoop. 

Overall, I think Dre completely missed the point of what makes Snoop great. It’s like bringing Michael Jordan back but forcing him to play baseball instead of basketball, it just doesn’t make sense. Snoop’s strengths weren’t used properly, and even though you can hear the effort in his delivery, it feels forced. 

Not a bad album, but not what i wanted. I'm sure Snoop feels the same, his favorite track is sticcy situation, that says it all...
I also wonder if this shift in sound is because of Jimmy Iovine. Maybe he pushed Dre and Snoop to make this kind of album to fit some industry standard or commercial vision. It seems that the DOC was involved in the early stages, said the project was sounding like a modern version of Deathrow sound. I think sticcy situation was one of the tracks...
And now DOC is saying that he did not work on the album.

[Sccit]

And then there’s Snoop’s performance. It doesn’t feel natural at all. Like Georgeous, we can hear how the verses were pieced together in small chunks. It makes everything sound disjointed and stiff, which is the opposite of what Snoop is known for. His flow has always been smooth and effortless, but here it’s choppy, with too many shifts in tone that don’t feel right. Snoop even said Dre used him like a robot, and honestly, you can hear it. 

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kinda shocked at how many people are in love wit how snoop sounds on this album …. i mean, i get it.. at times, it has hints of ‘93 snoop and he does sound reinvigorated in spurts.. but overall, like u said, it sounds like a mechanical remake of ‘93 snoop more than anything

[Jay_J]

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kinda shocked at how many people are in love wit how snoop sounds on this album …. i mean, i get it.. at times, it has hints of ‘93 snoop and he does sound reinvigorated in spurts.. but overall, like u said, it sounds like a mechanical remake of ‘93 snoop more than anything

Not only 93... i hear some "the last meal" era snoop on Missionary and he sounds really motivated.

[HighEyeCue]

not bad .. but for dr dre, far from his best ….. lacking in
various areas compared to his classix .. a step down from compton

thats how I feel

if you just had me listen to the album and I didn't know who produced it I would say it was pretty good

but up to Dre standards it was not

Not only 93... i hear some "the last meal" era snoop on Missionary and he sounds really motivated.

yeah I agree

I get that Snoop didn't write most of the lyrics but this has been the case for years now and he hasn't sounded this good since maybe Last Meal or BCT

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Thanks for the responses. Did anyone notice any uses of AI anywhere on the album?

So the cool thing about living in these modern times is you can listen to music for free.  Pretty much anything you want.  AND you can even form your own opinion. 

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^Why did you two stupid idiots give him props for that bs response?

[Hittman2001]

its hard to say but i guess it would be confused by his decision making as the producer more than anything. 

[Detox Is A Myth!!!]

You can go through my recent post history to read my thoughts, but Nad summarized them well. It reminds me of Kurupt's Streetlights album -- bland and boring that I will forget exists before long, and I bet Snoop's next album will be quite different, more "authentic" sounding. The direction Snoop takes his next album will tell us all how he really feels about Missionary.

Face it, doggs want to fucc doggystle, not missionary. You can't force them to be respectful.

[Lucifuge]

One thing is missing. Dr Dre drums on drum machine, and dr dre swing on them.

[BIGWORM]

very "poppy" but great album for what it is.

[Dee Tha AK]

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