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Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« on: September 05, 2002, 03:30:23 AM »
I'm very happy that you appreciated and understood my last e-mail.  This new e-mail illustrates ideas currently unfamiliar to you as I attempt to explain why your family is the way it is.  I am not asking you to agree or disagree with all that I am saying, just objectively wiegh it on it's own merit.  Your story and family history, although unique in detail, is typical in the larger scope of American life.  Let me explain...  

A capatalistic, democratic society like America, will always be divided economically and socially.  Amongst rich, poor, and the middle-class.  It is also divided in terms of power and influence.  Our forefathers knew this when they were writing the constitution.  So a great effort had to be made by those in power to pacify and maintain order amongst the common people.  You have been given a number of freedoms, voting, rights to speach and protest, and they have even tried to tell you as a kid, "hey, you can be president, or you could be the richest person in the world."  You were shown movies growing up.  Movies that showed the underdog, the common man, beeting the odds to achieve greatness.  And if you couldn't be powerful in business or politics, why, you could fall in love, be a great athlete, artist, or musician, or party your fuckin brains out, hey, why not, this is the land of the free.  Then, later in life, after you've gained a certain level of maturity and sense of reality, you come to find that 1% of society is richer then the other 95% combined.  And that great musicians and athletes only achieve their fame and fortune on the strength of the millions beneath them who supply them with a platform and audience.  

It may also be true that when one turns to love and family for their piece of the American dream: In place of love, trust, and community, their is instead, alchohol, drug, spousal, and child abuse.  To take their minds off of their low position in life, their bosses at work, who have bosses above them, their bosses, and so on--- Even if you get the oppurtunity to reach the top of the social and economic ladder--- The American Dream of wealth and power you may still have wholes in your soul the size of a dry lake bed.  Because whether the dream is achieved, short lived, or virtually unatainable, the American Dream is a farce, an illusion.  An illusion that has been neatly packaged to sell to the world in order to maintian a united front.  

True devinity, turst, love, brotherhood, and community can only come through the knowledge of the Oneness of your Creator.  You can search high and low for the love projected on the big-screen of the movie theatre.  But much of the Western version of love is really lust.  When one is truely in love they posess an innate ability to see past the person.  They want for their partners everything and more then they want for themselves.

A religion that teaches submission to the Oneness of the creator can unalterably change and liberate the mind from the frustrating grasp of whatever devils posess it.  It brings an added dimesion of brotherhood and sisterhood through equality amongst man.  And equality amongst all the great prophets, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, etc. all of which were themselves men.  Nothing is greater then that which has created the Universe, and thus everything in it.  Islam, is the natural religion of man, the true devine nature of man.  At birth you are natural, true, devine, as devinely giuded as the sun that rises at it's prescibed time each and every morning.  Only through the debasement of society can this state be corrupted.  So we are in great need of our Creator, who we call Allah or God.  Islam is a religion which is not associated with any person, people, period, or place.  It is the way of nature, the religion of man.  In every age, in every country and among every people.  All God-knowing and truth loving men and women have believed and lived this very religion.  They were all Muslims, irrespective of whether they called that way Islam.  Whatever it's name was, it signified Islam and nothing but Islam.  All praises to Allah (God) the most high.  The Creator and sustainer of the World.  There is no like unto him.



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Re: Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2002, 09:42:49 AM »
I agree with what you're saying upto when you start talking about how islam and Allah are the peoples saviour, i personnally see religion as another way of drugging the masses. This gives the people another false "world" the only way people can truly be happy is in a socialist world, in my opinion.
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Re: Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2002, 09:50:59 AM »
^thats a valid opinion, but to each their own
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Re: Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2002, 10:05:39 AM »
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I agree with what you're saying upto when you start talking about how islam and Allah are the peoples saviour, i personnally see religion as another way of drugging the masses. This gives the people another false "world" the only way people can truly be happy is in a socialist world, in my opinion.


Give me an example of a socialist society.  Because you could infact be right, I'm not disputing what your saying.  From my perspective though, man has a natural inclination towards his creator.  Religion broken down to it's roots means, "Re"-bind "Ligre"-Back.  And nothing is truly worthy of worship but the Creator, the Most High.
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Re: Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2002, 04:45:21 PM »
Good email, but make sure you don't talk down to the girl, I kinda saw it that way, hopefully she didn't.  Good luck.  
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Re: Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2002, 06:34:27 PM »
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Good email, but make sure you don't talk down to the girl, I kinda saw it that way, hopefully she didn't.  Good luck.  


Yo.  I don't care for your opinion.  You tell me you hate me for speaking on the Oneness of God, saying there is no like unto him, then you come in and give me props.  That's hypocritical.  You didn't accept my apology, even after I repeatedly apologized for a few days.  And then you try to report me as a terrorist.  You got serious insecurity issues.  I threaten you because your 23 and less of a man then me.  This is the only place you get respect.
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Re: Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2002, 07:02:05 PM »
Please~.  I try and be positive, and objective, and only criticise the negative things you post, while supporting the positive things you post, and this is what I get?  Screw you then, lol.  You're an ass, and you know nothing about respect, because you continually disrespect me.  Since I'm your daddy, you oughta show a little love, son.  I'm 3 times everything you are, and you know it, so you attack the one on top, trying to be king of the hill.  Won't happen.  I'll always be older than you, always be wiser than you.  You'll never catch up... I know that depresses you, but that's what you'll have to live with as long as you're here.  Sorry.  Wish there was something I could do, but there isn't.  I'm just better, and you just have to deal with it.

BTW, treat the girl with some respect, telling her "I'm glad you understood it" sends her the message that you're an arrogant bastard, and though that's true, you want to hide it from her, until you get her to fall in love, at least, you know?  I mean, that way, when she leaves your pathetic ass, at least maybe she will have taught you something by then.  
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Re: Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2002, 04:20:07 AM »
I don't have enough time to go into detail about a socialist society as im about to go to work, so here's a brief description. At this moment in time there is no "true" socialist society in the world, though some small communities in the world do live in them. A socialist society would include free education for all including university. This would then enable people who come from poor backgrounds to go to university and have more of a chance of progressing further in the world. The reason for this would be it would benefit society to have a more educated population. There would also be a free national health service provided by the government, the reason being if everyone has access to good health it will eradicate some diseases and won't discriminate against the poor when they become ill and so they won't forever live in poor health. The government would also provide benefits for those who were unemployed so they could still get by. There would also be a minimum living wage so people who did work at the bottom of the earnings bracket could live sufficiently on their wages. These services would be paid for by taxes with the rich paying a higher percentage than the poor. This would mean society would not be divided economically and socially as everyone would have equal power. People would not need to turn to drugs as there would be no reason to live in another world as the one they lived in would make them happy. There would be no need for religion as people would no longer feel its ok to suffer in this lifetime to gain happiness in the next life, as they would be happy as they would no longer be suffering.

Its not very well written but i didn't have enough time to think about it probably. If you live in the USA then look up on Ralph Nader (he ran in the last presidential election) and read as much on his policies as possible as thats the closest the USA will get to a socialist candidate. Then vote for him in the next election.
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Re: Some ish I wrote to a girl about Islam
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2002, 04:44:29 AM »
im pretty sure mondragon, spain is an example of a socialist society.

it has a population of about 50,000 and nets in profit 326 million a year.


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