R. Kelly - You Saved My Life

[Don Breezio]

i never said sprinsteen wasn't amazing...im not arguing his talent...he's dope.

but i think you have the black vs. white thing wrong...its not dangerous for a white kid to try to rap...look at all the white rappers out there on the underground...if you mean as far as mainstream then yes it is but there are tons of underground white rappers (i just totally contradicted something i said earlier so as far as white guys in rap i was wrong) but also i dont think that its dangerous for a black guy to like rock.

music is at the point now to where its not what type of music you listen to...its what artists in that music you listen to that will get you looked at funny...like...i could love hip hop...but if all i listened to was chingy, nelly, ja rule, and 50 cent...and then said nobody was better than them...i would probably get my ass kicked by everyone i ever came accross...same with rock...if you listen to rock but you think that avril lavigne and blink 182 are the best ever...you should probably be slapped.

[Shallow]

The white kid dangerous to rap thing was a joke, but the ghetto black kid thing was not. They aren't in physical danger, there image is in danger. Trust me. I live in near many government housing projects filled with black kids. When I play rock for them individually, the really good ones, a lot like it. When they're in groups they are quick to shut it down. One thing that will always make me laugh though is when a couple of years ago I played 5 to 1 by the Doors for the local thugs, and they responded with "turn that shit off". A little later when Jay Z released Takeover, those same clowns praised the song, and complemented Kanye on his production skills. Also they claimed I had never played the Door's song for them.

Well you recognized Bruce's brilliance, I'm satisfied. And since it just came to me I'll say it now. I feel his catalogue is far more versitile than Kelly's (and Jackson's) and that is one of the main reasons I put him ahead of them.

[Don Breezio]

well i don't disagree his catalogue is more versatile...i just don't think their talent should be compared because they have different talents in a sense. lmao @ the thugs w/ the doors...thats funny as hell

[Shallow]

well i don't disagree his catalogue is more versatile...i just don't think their talent should be compared because they have different talents in a sense. lmao @ the thugs w/ the doors...thats funny as hell

Fair enough. I mean we could argue whether they should be compared or not for eternity and could never come to the "right" answer, because there isn't one. And even though I don't think there is any thing R Kelly or Jackson can do that Bruce can't do just as well or better ( except dance in MJ's case) I will respect your thoughts that there talents are too different to compare. The whole thing started in an argument the other day with some more of those "local thugs" and it bothered me that they hadn't actually ever heard Springsteen, and I guess the I kind a moved the argument here. The argument with them ended when one of their Uncles butt in for Springsteen, and actually got angry at the thought that they said MJ was better than Bruce. Imagine that, a guy born in raised in Jamaica, and a hard core Springsteen fan. He saw him play with Bob Marley once at a concert, and never stopped listening.

[Don Breezio]

lol...atleast we can have a civilized arguement which is more than i can say for some people...glad it didnt look like this:

no you are the fuckin moron, get off your own nutz, your not 1/4 as smart as you think you are.  

now you just made yourself look even dumber with your latest post.  

again, you stupid fuckin peice of shit worthless moron, putting words in my mouth. *A few paragraphs later*

So shut your fuckin mouth, you dumb fuckin animal.

I just think you were too stupid to comprehend my equationGoddamn, *paragraph later* you say you went to college?

[Jim Jones]

^^White people like you make listening to Murs & Little Brother wack.  crackas like u always gotta fuck up 'real hiphop' ..fall back homo.

[Don Breezio]

^^White people like you make listening to Murs & Little Brother wack.  crackas like u always gotta fuck up 'real hiphop' ..fall back homo.

wow that was fucked up...i don't even know who you are...kiss my white ass.

[Jim Jones]

whatever. take it how u want it. everytime i go to a underground hiphop show the place is packed wit these white nerds who think they know what 'real hiphop' is.  i mean look, you got mario wianans in your sig along wit the murs & little brother. wtf is that?  when it comes to murs & little brother, your just trying to follow a trend and want to be apart of something. i would expect a cracka like you to be listening to eminem which u are cuz u have the new D12 album in your sig. typical of a white boy to do. Quit acting all stupid cuz u know your damn self that u a nerd. only white nerds listen to atmosphere. and go ahead and jump on the band wagon wit this 'little brother & murs music'. at the end of the day u still a white boy tryin to belong to something thats why u try to act like u know music which is not the case. btw, atmosphere is not hiphop. there fan base are a bunch of crackas who listen to rock or white nerds like you who cant dress that try to listen to 'underground shit' mainly done by other white rappers.  Don't come at me wit 'ohh i'll listen to whatever i want'  type of shit. your probably in tears as we speak cuz u know everything i said is true. one last thing.  you got SONNED! muthafucka.  fall back cracka.

[Don Breezio]

god damn that was fucked up...you can believe what you want about me but im not here to impress you buddy.

[West C. Connected]

whatever. take it how u want it. everytime i go to a underground hiphop show the place is packed wit these white nerds who think they know what 'real hiphop' is.  i mean look, you got mario wianans in your sig along wit the murs & little brother. wtf is that?  when it comes to murs & little brother, your just trying to follow a trend and want to be apart of something. i would expect a cracka like you to be listening to eminem which u are cuz u have the new D12 album in your sig. typical of a white boy to do. Quit acting all stupid cuz u know your damn self that u a nerd. only white nerds listen to atmosphere. and go ahead and jump on the band wagon wit this 'little brother & murs music'. at the end of the day u still a white boy tryin to belong to something thats why u try to act like u know music which is not the case. btw, atmosphere is not hiphop. there fan base are a bunch of crackas who listen to rock or white nerds like you who cant dress that try to listen to 'underground shit' mainly done by other white rappers.  Don't come at me wit 'ohh i'll listen to whatever i want'  type of shit. your probably in tears as we speak cuz u know everything i said is true. one last thing.  you got SONNED! muthafucka.  fall back cracka.

 

..YEAH!!!! DEAD PREZ NUKKA!!!! WHAT!! KILL YO' ASS!!! DIE WHITEY DIE!!!! WHAT!!!
Are you just bored or what?

[Jim Jones]

god damn that was fucked up...you can believe what you want about me but im not here to impress you buddy.

I know, the truth hurts. but im just speak on what i've seen thru out all these years and you are a product of that. Amosphere makes music for white people like you. their labels aim for a white audience of 15-29 to buy their music. and your just one of them who did. they're aren't aiming to get spins on hiphop staions. they go for the rock stations where they know white people are listening. Atmosphere aren't the only people who aim at a certain race to buy records. Interscope ships Eminems records to rock stations who only play rock. when have u ever heard of 50 Cent being played on a rock station? never. but they sure play eminem cuz hes white.  White people listen to rock and even tho em isnt rock hes white just like them so they accept him as being ok. thats they way it works. if u a white rapper, u get played on the white stations cuz u look like them. if u a black rapper, theres no way in hell u gonna get played on the rock stations. its a fact.  The Industry (ran by a bunch of crackas) made sure eminem saying "nigger" didn't blow up to be a big scandel. believe me if a black rapper would've said ''fuck u crackas'' (which has happen) you woudn't see them on mtv, but u sure see eminem on mtv even tho he said ''fuck niggers.''  Bottom Line, Crackas are dirty ass people who fucck everything up hiphop related just to sell records. And like i said, your a product of that.

its ok, your ignorant, and you didn't know what was going on but now you do.

[West C. Connected]

YEAH!!! FUCK WHITE PEOPLE THEY'RE ALL RACISTS!!!
FUCK ASIANS THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MALES IN THEIR PORN MOVIES, THE SEXISTS!
FUCK ARABIAN PEOPLE, THEY'RE ALL TERRORISTS!!!
FUCK JEWISH PEOPLE THEY HAVE.. BIG... NOSES..!!!!
FUCK BLACK....

Oh shit, I'm just became a racist.

[Shallow]

god damn that was fucked up...you can believe what you want about me but im not here to impress you buddy.

I know, the truth hurts. but im just speak on what i've seen thru out all these years and you are a product of that. Amosphere makes music for white people like you. their labels aim for a white audience of 15-29 to buy their music. and your just one of them who did. they're aren't aiming to get spins on hiphop staions. they go for the rock stations where they know white people are listening. Atmosphere aren't the only people who aim at a certain race to buy records. Interscope ships Eminems records to rock stations who only play rock. when have u ever heard of 50 Cent being played on a rock station? never. but they sure play eminem cuz hes white.  White people listen to rock and even tho em isnt rock hes white just like them so they accept him as being ok. thats they way it works. if u a white rapper, u get played on the white stations cuz u look like them. if u a black rapper, theres no way in hell u gonna get played on the rock stations. its a fact.  The Industry (ran by a bunch of crackas) made sure eminem saying "nigger" didn't blow up to be a big scandel. believe me if a black rapper would've said ''fuck u crackas'' (which has happen) you woudn't see them on mtv, but u sure see eminem on mtv even tho he said ''fuck niggers.''  Bottom Line, Crackas are dirty ass people who fucck everything up hiphop related just to sell records. And like i said, your a product of that.

its ok, your ignorant, and you didn't know what was going on but now you do.

So you're the guy that steals old songs from Europe and replays them for rap songs, I knew Dre couldn't do it alone.
Are just joking around or are you really that angry. Luke doesn't seem to want to wwaste his time with, but I got nothing better to do, so here it goes. Before you begin reading I have to warn you, my posts are too long for most people's liking, but Jesus likes it that way.

I couldn't tell you too much about Atmosphere, cause I stopped listening to too much Hip Hop about a year ago. I found the promise land of music, it's called 70s rock n Roll. The bottom line is business fucks up art, it always has and always will. Also it's not a race thing it's a rich vs poor thing, it's a me first thing. Suge had no problem giving no money to any of his Death Row artists back in the day, that's why they all left.

If you think that Eminem and Atmosphere are the only ones marketing to white kids, you're wrong. All successful rappers market to whites, BET markets to whites. Why? Because black rap fans don't buy albums. I have over a hundred black friends, some live in the ghetto some don't, and about 90% percent them have their music collection on burnt CDs or dubbed tapes, and the few albums they own are the rare classics. What you think 50 cents hot because the hood buys his album, I'll bet you there are more real versions of get rich or die trying in Greenwhich Conneticut, then there are in South Jamaica Queens. You think it was Jay Z connection to the streets that made him popular, well I'm here to tell you it was Lil orphan Annie. When you market a product, you have to market it to the people you think will buy it. Eminem gets played on rock stations, because songs like the way i am, or lose yourself are pretty much rock n roll, and will be liked by the fans of current rock will probably like it, even if they only like rock. While 50 may not appeal to them. I don't even know too many  rock stations that play Eminem anyway.

"White people ruin hip hop". I disagree. What do you care if white people listen to rap? I'll admit I hate it when I see white kids with their pants sagging and their gangster limp, but I also hate it when I see black kids doing it.

Now the whole Em being racist thing. It's not like he said it recently, the tape's from '89. Besides how many black comedians have made livings making fun of white people. Crackers do run the industry, but only like 2% of them, most white people live in poverty, or just above it. You shouldn't generalize.

Also, listen to Bruce Springsteen, he's amazing (that one's for Luke).

[West C. Connected]

god damn that was fucked up...you can believe what you want about me but im not here to impress you buddy.

I hate it when I see white kids with their pants sagging and their gangster limp, but I also hate it when I see black kids doing it.
Also, listen to Bruce Springsteen, he's amazing (that one's for Luke).

What about a 5'4" Asian kid wearing an XL 'Pass The Roc' set with matching cap?

[Shallow]

What about a 5'4" Asian kid wearing an XL 'Pass The Roc' set with matching cap?

If I ever saw one I'd murder him.